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Please don't stuff it in like that, there is objections to you addition from multiple editors, and no one even wanted to comment to you RFC at all, I suggest that is reflective of the value of the content, as before, seek consensus on the talkpage, there are multiple objections. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Can you not consider the tame version ? perhaps there can be consensus for that. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
In April 2009, Crist was one of the subjects of Kirby Dick's documentary film Outrage, a Tribeca Film Festival feature about politicians who the film claims are " closeted" homosexuals and who vote against gay rights. Crist denied the allegations. [1] [2]
In April 2009, Kirby Dick's documentary film Outrage stated that Crist was a " closeted" homosexual who voted against gay rights. [3] In the film, Crist denied allegations of homosexuality, just as he denied them in 2006 when asked by Florida-based reporter Bob Norman. [4]
Please stop the edit war, just leave the picture with Crist with the Florida flag and emblem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.146.148 ( talk) 01:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Without it I doubt I would have been unblocked. It may take me a while to get back up to speed. Any particular course of action you recommend to fix the 1953 coup article? -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 20:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice efforts at Outrage (2009 film)! ;) I added an Awards sect there, and also at Kirby Dick. Cheers, -- Cirt ( talk) 14:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hey, just wanted to give you a heads up that I updated our conversation at Talk:Bill Flores Arbor832466 ( talk) 14:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that I've started a review of your article at Talk:Caleb V. Haynes/GA1-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 18:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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BS24 is on indefinite block for abusing multiple accounts. [1] This editor has had many socks and is likely to return under a new account. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous ( talk) 17:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! That's very sweet of you :-D Yngvadottir ( talk) 06:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Can I get the Winter's full account by e-mail? The format does not matter.-- Lsorin ( talk) 07:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps these will work for you... I have never tried this method to see. Binksternet ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for replying; i've chopped around a bit ~ if you like take a gander & see if you reckon it's all right. Cheers, Lindsay Hi 10:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, adding the compromise like that isn't really correct, we are looking for agreement. The issue is back at the BLPN. If you accept the compromise addition that I created then you should have said that on the talkpage and seen if there was support to add it, as you know there are other users that object to the mention of the issue at all. For your comment you added the compromise but don't support it, which is strange, anyways, we are looking for a discussed agreement, so perhaps we can work it out this time, but while we do, the issue is better out of the article. Off2riorob ( talk) 20:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
As it was a redlink in the Coanda-1910 article I thought I'd investigate. this (referring to Port Victoria P.V.8) together with this make me think it might be this: Martin KF-1. Do you have anything to confirm or deny the link? GraemeLeggett ( talk) 21:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for cleaning up and citing Schuller's actual statements about Jelly Roll. My copy is in storage during a remodel, so I couldn't do it. Josephbyrd ( talk) 22:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the error. You were perfectly correct in removing that ex link. But in my defence, I did a search and there is a redirect to that page. Again, sorry for the inconvenience I caused. Jack Jackehammond ( talk) 09:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I personally have had physical pain inflicted on me by these devices and bad cathode ray tube televisions and monitors. Unlike poor quality CRTs which make such noise as a side effect, The Mosquito was designed to make this noise. I was smart enough not to listen to lots of loud music and noises when I was young, so I can still hear many high-frequency noises that many people in my age range cannot hear. That is why I consider The Mosquito a weapon. See http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/articles.aspx?page=independentarticle&ID=210372 and http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jun/20/teenager-repellent-mosquito-banned-europe for more evidence that shows that these things cause pain and therefore are weapons. Jesse Viviano ( talk) 21:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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You consider my report on the birth place of the CD too detailed. I do not agree. Who gives you the authority to decide? It would be more polite to send me your opinion instead of just deleting my addition. If I undo your deletion I would behave in the same way.
An unpleasant encounter with the mores of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jan de Vries Underhill ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for removing the links on Namman Muay. I was blocked for edit warring for doing the same thing, so I didn't want to touch them. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
You may not care for the anonymous editors contributions to the talk page, but I feel they should not be deleted. a) there are certain occasions when material ought to be deleted and having a contrary opinion (malformed, ignorant, badly expressed or whathaveyou as it is) is not one of them. b) in the forceful debate going on it is best to be extra careful with the ettiquette lest it give the wrong impression to others. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 11:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Do you know if Gunston, in the books mentioned in the Coanda-1910 article which do not include Coanda, specifically credits others with the first jet engine developments? GraemeLeggett ( talk) 16:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Communicat has a case before the ArbCom and, in discussion prior to the case being accepted by ArbCom, I mentioned that you had experienced negative interactions with Communicat. Let me start by naming others with whom Communicat has had similar negative interactions, as the Committee may wish to either involve them or review the interactions: Arnoutf, Parsecboy, Binksternet, Paul Siebert, Moxy, and White Shadows. Those interactions have not been universally negative, though mostly so.
This prompted Communicat to write the onus is on Habap to inform those editors that he has involved them, so that they may speak for themselves, if at all. at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II. In the arbitration case, Communicat alleges anti-Soviet bias by the members of the WikiProject Military History, specifically naming Edward321, Hohum, Nick-D, Georgewilliamherbert and me. If you would like to present evidence, you would do so on the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II/Evidence page. If you disagree with my characterization of your interactions as being "mostly negative", it would be appreciated if you would state that on the evidence page to clarify the matter.
I apologize for involving you in this process as I am sure you have more enjoyable things to do. -- Habap ( talk) 14:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Binksternet, Thank you for the California Star, it was (in August) and continually is (by moving down...) very appreciated, and so kind and thoughtful of you.---Best--- Look2See1 t a l k → 04:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I gladly accept ! I haven't made use of a sandbox previously but I'll try to figure it out then will alert you. Carroll F. Gray ( talk) 20:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I hope that you don't mind me reverting your edit here. While it's obviously the case that B-25s were land-based bombers, the key feature of the Doolittle Raid was that they flew off an aircraft carrier as Japan was outside the range of any of the US' land-based aircraft at the time and as a result it was basically a one-off 'hit and run' operation. Conversely, the key feature of the attack on Yawata was that it was the first time that bombers flying from a permanent base attacked Japan, signaling the start of a long-running campaign. I hope that this isn't over-complicating things, and I'd be very happy to discuss it. Cheers, Nick-D ( talk) 22:13, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I reversed your removal of the credit in the Kai Winding article. Although I understand the intention, it appears that there is a standard for including credits for notable photographers with links back to their articles. WP:CREDITS references this. As you can see by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/William_Paul_Gottlieb, giving him credit for his photographs spans quite a few Jazz musician articles. I think in these cases the credit is earned. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for cleaning up there; as I fixed the article I should have checked the talk page as well—sorry. -- Old Moonraker ( talk) 21:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
You have reverted sourced content from the article three times in the span of a few minutes, that's only wanton edit warring. If you do that again within the next day or so, you will be blocked from editing. Gwen Gale ( talk) 21:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Binkster. In this edit 24.126.172.165 has removed sourced info. Article is way from something I can make content comment on. Could you possibly look into this? Thank you!-- Shirt58 ( talk) 09:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Binksternet, I see you have been doing good work trying to clean up the VW bot mess of Dec 10. I have been working backwards from the last bot edit and have got to here. I'm not sure editors have covered even half of the mal-edits as yet and with more days are more edits added to the articles. I wonder, if you are still working on this, it might make sense, as I am working backwards, for you to move forwards from the earliest change, so we don't wind up going over each others changes needlessly. It does seem like a priority as so much good work was frustratingly lost. Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Best wishes Span ( talk) 07:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
ok, no worries. good luck Span ( talk) 14:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
If you're going to "examine" articles for copyvio - make sure you actually do. You reintroduced translation copyvio here. VernoWhitney ( talk) 00:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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I'm polling editors active in the 1953 Iranian coup article on the issue revising two sentences in the article lead.
The change is discussed here and reasons for the change also here -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 22:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
At Talk:Darioush_Bayandor#Favorable_review you say that you found a review by Steven Simon in the publication Survival. How did you find that? Is it online? I would like to quote from the review.
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03:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Please do not edit summaries to obscure contentious edits. Use "wording" to change tone, not substance. Xavexgoem ( talk) 03:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I request to be unblocked. I will never use the edit summary "wording" to make substantial content changes. I definitely will not hide any of my edits which may be disputed or which are the subject of talk page discussions. I do not wish to conduct cause problems for other editors seeking to understand my edits. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not trying to hide edits is only part of the problem. Tendentious editing is unacceptable anyway. In addition, you have promised in the past to behave from now on if you are not blocked, and unfortunately this makes it difficult to accept such an undertaking this time. JamesBWatson ( talk) 16:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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You have my sincere sympathy for all the good it does you. Let's hope no mysterious obscene anon posts appear on Xavexgoem's talk pages saying "this is Binksternet"! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 20:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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I wish to be unblocked. I promise I will not take part in tendentious editing in Iran political articles. Specifically, I will from now on restrict myself to one revert per day per Iran topic article with the requirement of including the code "rv" (for revert) in the edit summary accompanied by a simultaneous talk page entry about the reversion, in the same manner that I followed to perfection after the 1 October locking of the Coandă-1910 article. I will not hide the nature of my edits from other editors—I wish to engage them about the content of the edits, not avoid discussion (or detection!) What I aim to do regarding the Iran 1953 coup article is to compose a sandbox version of the article so that editors can discuss the differences between it and the mainspace one. Another thing I wish to do is help put together a timeline of events leading up to the August 1953 coup in Iran, one in table format with columns for different sources, so editors can more clearly see how the expert sources differ on the topic. If this unblock request is granted, it will be the first time that a promise of mine has been formally accepted and put into practice on Wikipedia. This is in rebuttal to JamesBWatson's above assertion that I made promises in the past and did not keep them; to this date there has never been an offer of mine which has been accepted by reviewing administrators, so I cannot have broken any promises. I am true to my word—keeping promises is very important to me—and will hold to all that I have described here if unblocked. Binksternet (talk) 04:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Sounds good (1RR, rv if revert, etc). Good editing! Xavexgoem ( talk) 12:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much for my barnstar. Let's keep up the good work. Jaespinoza ( talk) 20:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, although I have the book on the shelf which would present the proper verification, I don't have the book available in proximity to a computer and won't likely be home to retrieve it until after the inter-semester break. I am not necessarily objecting that the revert is bad, but I think that on balance it is a bit heavy handed in that the deleted statement is almost a tautology. Anyone who has taken a history course at any level, in fact any academic work, should regard it as almost self evident that such a contentious topic would have gone through an evolution of historical opinion. And everybody knows intuitively that history - History - implies some distance in the past, such as a full century.
So to delete as unverified or unsourced the statement that the perspective on the Hiroshima Nagasaki bombing has evolved or gone through phases is a tad bit spurious, wouldn't you agree? As if that could possibly be not so.
A look at your award winning article on the entymologist indicates that it is possible to go no further than the second or third paragraph to find un-sourced statements. So it seems that you are applying a heavy hand at deleting others' work than you are taking on your own work.
I am not necessarily getting riled over that but I think that the point warrants being stated. I think that if you also have a problem with the statement that the discovery of the Truman papers caused a shift in historical opinion, that it would have been better to delete that phrase and let the summary stand, to wit, that opinions have evolved.
This may seem unecessary and self evident and it would be if the article were properly written in the first place. But the article is imperfect in that it unduly highlights the one Walker opinion given excessive prominence. My final edit just rectified that somewhat sophomoric error by putting an almost standard bit of perspective setting and foundation. Do you doubt that there has been evolution in the thinking on the topic.
But yes, there is no "proof" that opinion shifted. It would be more credible though to spend some time googling and add citations or details than to delete them when they are correct and almost self evident.
If you refute them, that is a different matter, but where is your citation?
I am not at all convinced that the revert, although legal, makes the article any better. You seem to be into working fast and it is so much easier to scan something, find an uncited statement, and delete whole chunks or writing. It is much harder to find out if it is true.
So I will be off line for a few weeks and the article may sit as written, warts and all. I think that maybe you revert it because you can, and it would speak well for your tier of wikipedians if you would perhaps contribute something to help shape that article up, with respect if not to the issues I am addressing, then to some other.
Maybe I will find a scrap of time to try out a few edits and would be interested to see if there is ever any assistance in adding good constructive content available from the higher echelons of wikipedians, or if there is only the bleak landscape of deletions and reversions and legalistic enforcement of new layers of rules with no connection to the underlying truth or falsity...do you doubt that there were new Truman papers that came out after 1945? Why not just put in that a citation is ommitted or a citation is needed? Why nuke the thing? Wikidgood ( talk) 01:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear Binksternet, how are you? You might not remember me, but you helped me a great deal with the FA promotion of Madonna. I never got to thank you for that *shame on me*. I plan to nominate the above article for FAC, can you just take a brief look and see how close is it to being a smooth FA? — Legolas (talk2me) 11:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
"Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia." Read it carefully. You have been warned this type of behavior in the past. Prior to today, you had never edited Kurdish people, or shown any interest whatsoever about this topic. You're clearly following me around, to topics outside of your area of expertise or interest , "with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress" in me. Consider this your first and last warning to cease and desist. Kurdo777 ( talk) 17:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
"Continuum" refers to Kurdish language, not the Indo-European family. Kurdo777 ( talk) 18:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Kurdish people, where this discussion should have been all along. You misinterpreted my actions as hounding. I did not intend to confront you or inhibit you, I intended to correct the English, to make the sentence say what you wanted it to say. Binksternet ( talk) 18:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Here you said that you favored a more condensed selection of sources for the last paragraph in the lead, 2 or 3, but then reinserted the mass of them. Whats up with that? - Schrandit ( talk) 23:39, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much, for your helpful input in the GA Review for The Most Hated Family in America. I have made several edits in efforts to address your suggested improvements to the page, I believe the bulk of your recommendations have now been directly implemented. Perhaps if you have copyediting ideas, it would be appreciated if you wish to make additional modifications. ;) Thanks again, -- Cirt ( talk) 05:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey Binksternet,
I've just removed those two links because of their irrelevancy for the article; why have you added them back? They do not seem to be related to the surrender of Japan or Japan itself at all. According to
WP:OVERLINK, "an article is said to be overlinked if it links to words that can be understood by most readers of the English Wikipedia." – and I think phrases to save face and the word leaflet are understood by most readers.
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23:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
As a volunteer run outfit with, at the moment, uncertainty about the fire safety works and its lease/ site ownership I wouldn't be surprised if the re-opening slipped. Here's the latest news wein the local paper. You might want to check the paper's site as well as the museum's website closer to your travel date. If your were to trek into East Anglia - there is Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum. I'm trying to think if there are any WWII airfields (that haven't been ploughed under or built over) worth dropping by at for a flavour of the past. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 18:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
You're once again engaged in edit-warring on an Iran-related page, Abadan Crisis timeline, citing a non-existent consensus in your edit summaries. You were recently blocked for this type of Tendentious editing behavior. You were told previously by several editors and administrators that Bayandor is not an acceptable source for 1953-related pages. But you're once again trying to introduce a disputed fringe theory by him into one of these articles, which goes against the academic consensus on the issue, and violate our polices on WP:UNDUE, and WP:AUTO. Please stop trying to force this material onto the page, without getting a clear consensus. Kurdo777 ( talk) 18:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Unlike you, I'm doing this the right way and discussing the reverts that people seem to want to continue to do and in the process create edit wars over. How is it possibly too much "promotion" of Gibson? I shrunk that down to nothing. The above section about "Impact" also includes additional sentences about other artists to express a point. I think showing how Stevie was his idol (not mentioned by the other artists) and that the voices are similar (it's apparent you're not familiar with Gibson's work) is noteworthy. That's the only other thing I included. I can take this to the talk page or discuss with other admin to get a concensus but it's not worth removing just because someone doesn't like it. The other problem is that you removed two other good edits I made with that change that are acceptable. I'm not trying to "showboat" Gibson. I'm trying to expand and improve the articles with facts. Originally I just copied the entire mention about him working with Wonder from his article then reduced it and then again just down to the source. So there is no way it's too much. The other explanations was already there about him. I think you're not looking at the big picture here. Many articles still discuss other artists if they pertain to the person the article is about, and there was definitely a relationship worth mentioning in the article. Just because you're not aware of it perhaps, doesn't make it wrong. It's sourced. It should stay. It's a minor thing here, and according to Wiki, we aren't looking for perfection and the edit doesn't "hurt anyone" and is still "productive and correct". Thanks! 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 01:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
See talk page for my response and these added points (you are trying to "sufficate" something minor for the "promotion" of Stevie Wonder and in this case your reverts are wrong):
FYI: You can view Gibson's article to see all the many sources I found. Maybe the way you do searches don't yield many results. For instance: [2] I would say Billboard is more than adequate, among the others. I've never searched the way you claim, with " " and +'s. So saying that he's unimportant is your opinion and shouldn't have affected the edit regardless. Hope next time you are more mindful and neutral with individual's input/contributions. Good luck... 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 16:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That's it? Ok, someone else can take care of this then. 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 04:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, and it's my pleasure - your edits were constructive and beneficial; I'm unsure as to why others would have rejected it. Please let me know if I can ever be of any other assistance. Nick Wilson (talk) 06:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I responded to the issue on Talk:Stevie_Wonder, BLPs are a particularly sensitive issue with Wikipedia:No_original_research, but your point on Gibson was mentioned in your sources and appears to be valid. Have you considered making an account on wikipedia? If you do register, please let me know! Nick Wilson (talk) 07:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Your edits are sourced, in good faith, and constructive. I'll remain neutral with regards to whether Gibson should be mentioned in a BLP in this respect, but because it is sourced and there is a clear relationship between the two, I feel matters should be discussed and debated here. I strongly feel the pending changes system was put in place to prevent nonconstructive or highly controversial edits to notable articles, and not to prevent or obstruct users from making good faith contributions. This absolutely isn't highly controversial, and I hope fellow wikipedians will respect equality and debate the topic here instead of rejecting further edits by you. On the same token, you are arguably tiptoeing around the Wikipedia:Three-revert_rule on this article so please tread carefully! Nick Wilson (talk) 06:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I certainly understand your point and I sympathize and apologize that you've been through so much red tape, but want to echo Nick's point: registering for an account is a good way to avoid some of the issues that you've encountered. Personally, much of my wiki work is in the area of "RC patrol," or looking through recent changes and reverting vandalism. Many editors are naturally more suspicious of changes made by users without accounts, because as unfair as it is, a lot of vandalism comes from anonymous editors. A lot of good edits come from anonymous editors too, and you're certainly one of those, but when you're wading through page after page of vandalism, it's very easy for something to "look wrong" and be too quick on the revert button. Again, this isn't your fault, in fact you're one of the more rare exceptions: an anonymous editor who cites sources and discusses controversial edits. But I think registering might help other editors better assume good faith in your edits and help you get farther around here. It's certainly your option not to register, but just something to keep in mind. Zachlipton (talk) 07:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Please be respectful. I am covering myself because you are playing games. That is a weak "argument". If that's the case, other mentioning of people in his and many other articles should be removed. Like about other artists he worked with. You just don't like it and that's why you are reverting it. It DOES involve both artists and explains an early relationship they had in music. It is related to the section and person. Those are his songs, used/covered just like the section says, and explains him backing vocals and working together on albums. That is just as much legit as any other text put within articles about people's work together. You know it. I am contacting an admin who blocked you previously to discuss this further, I'm not resolving it with you anymore. You are not cooperating properly. You must think I'm an idiot because I use an IP and not logged into an account or something. You are profiling and not following proper guidelines based on your seemingly selfish ego. Good bye! 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 04:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
See bottom of Wonder talk page for other issues since you are questioning mine which isn't any more wrong than those within the article. I only listed a few, there are many more. Gotta be consistant here or else you're doing it based on prejudice and preference. 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 08:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I know now what I have to do and will go as far up as possible because it's these little issues, lies and discripencies that lead to bigger problems and vandals. You may be stroking your pride/ego because you got your way but we both know you're wrong in this situation and you don't want to admit that. Nonetheless, I'll be the bigger man but not before removing text that you claim, like mine, do not meet the guidelines. For instance, this will be deleted from the article: Contrary to popular belief, Minnie Riperton didn't start her career with Wonderlove, since she began her professional career as lead singer of the girl group The Gems in the '60s and later found critical success with the psychedelic soul band Rotary Connection before leaving the group for her acclaimed solo career in 1970. Riperton did provide background vocal work for some of Wonder's albums after they became friends following the production of Perfect Angel in 1974. Wonder wrote a song dedicated to Riperton that he presented near her hospital bed prior to her death in July 1979. Goodbye... 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 09:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
-- Kumioko ( talk) 02:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Do you know anything about the claim that Ştefan Odobleja anticipated Norbert Wiener's very famous and influential work on cybernetics? I half-remember this as being weird and crankish, and the Romanian nationalist angle reminds me of the recent Coanda thing. I don't remember Odobleja mentioned in some Wiener biographies I read a while back. I'm not sure whether to try cleaning it up from WP's Wiener-related articles. 67.122.209.190 ( talk) 11:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hossein_Fatemi#recent_edits -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 02:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Gavin Servelle is indeed a prominent member of the Palm Springs gay rights community, as well as a gay rights activist. I'm quite appalled by your gross negligence in deleting his name. He deserves to be credited on Wikipedia for all of the work he has done for the community.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Seahorses ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
On December 20th I said that I would check back and see whether a comment I had left here was justified or not. At the time I was too busy to deal with it immediately, and unfortunately it then got left and forgotten. I am sorry not to have followed this up. It has now been so long that I don't remember the background of the case fully, so I have spent a little while looking back through your editing history. I cannot now find a specific undertaking that you made that you then directly broke the letter of, but there are various things you have said that are in the general spirit of promising to hold back from edit-warring, but you subsequently continued to edit-war. For example, in this edit you gave an undertaking to hold back. This was very probably meant to apply only to the particular article in issue at that time, and that you did not actually breach the undertaking in this case. However, I think that when I wrote "you have promised in the past to behave from now on if you are not blocked" I had in mind that your history of being blocked for edit-warring, together with statements such as the one I have referred to, indicated that you were well aware of the need to avoid edit-warring, and had indicated a willing to do so, but had repeatedly slipped back into edit-warring, rather than that you had made a specific promise which you had broken. I apologise that I did not make that clearer at the time, and also that it has taken me so long to make this response.
What brought this back to mind was something quite different. I have received a request on my talk page to intervene against you in the dispute you are involved in at
Stevie Wonder. I have declined to do so, as you will see if you care to look at
the relevant discussion. However, I thought it a matter of courtesy to let you know the approach had been made. The user has also asked another admin to support their case and received a refusal, and has indicated the intention of trying to find another one.
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The only birth certificate for Carlos Gardel is fr/ Toulouse in France, 1890. There are photos showing Gardel w/, oddly enough, his birth family, oddly enough, in France. Do you know Orly Taitz? This is reminiscent of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate 'dispute.' Quite candidly, it's boring. But I have a strong attachment to factual accuracy, and I think a good way to improve Wikipedia is NOT to let people inflict non-existent disputes here. Forewarned. Tapered ( talk) 21:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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Dear Binksternet: I just discovered that you removed a portion of an entry I made under the article "Loudness War" solely under the grounds that I as the editor created the entry as a "conflict of interest". Personally I think it is a meaningful omission from this article to not include references to a book chapter which covers the loudness war or the AES workshop which preceded it. Furthermore, my entry was made in a neutral style, was not self-promotional and anyone could look up the name of the editor who made the post. If it is suitable or sufficient to declare a possible conflict of interest in order to restore the entry, I'll be happy to do so, but obviously I did not attempt to hide my identity as an editor as you detected a "conflict". However, by omission you've reduced the power of the article. The article, to which you substantially contributed, may be very thorough and accurate, but it is disrespectful to excise this entry on the grounds of conflict of interest without a) communicating with the editor (myself) to discuss it further and/or b) recognizing the validity of this entry and rewriting it as another editor (either choice would be suitable). You should also note that in the context of this edit I cited a book by Greg Milner which you chose not to remove. So that by removing the portion of my edit which cites my book, you've made a judgment on your part which book is "more important".
It is the experts themselves who often can best contribute to a specific topic. So it should not be necessary to qualify an entry as "neutral" by expurgating the contributions of the editor to that article. Viz: Encyclopedia Britannica, which often employs editors on a topic who are experts and contributors to that topic themselves and sometimes cite their own contributions. Would you exclude an edit by Richard Branson about balloon flights which cited his own record-breaking balloon flight on the grounds of conflict of interest?
Sincerely,
Bobkatz24bit ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Bobkatz24bit Since this is my first edit in Wikipedia I am floundering at the methods used to contact editors, do not know how to return to this page, and it is likely I will not see your reply unless you also cc me directly at my email, bobkatz[atsign]digido.com. Thanks.
Great! Sorry I missed you at SF! BK Bobkatz24bit ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Bobkatz24bit
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Just so you know, " my esteemed colleague" is not used ironically! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 16:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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Binksternet, either you:
Either way, it's tendentious, which you've been warned and blocked against for more than enough times. Xavexgoem ( talk) 12:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
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Request reason:
This is a bad block based on a pair of faulty premises: a) that my editing since December 20 has been tendentious at Iran-topic articles and b) that I lied to User:Kurdo777, hounding him in violation of the guideline at WP:Harassment.
a) Per agreement at my recent block I have been editing Iran-topic articles with a self-imposed 1RR limit, agreed to by Xavexgoem, with reversions labeled 'rv' and every reversion accompanied by a talk page entry explaining it. I have not broken that agreement. At WP:Disruptive editing, the guideline about tendentiousness warns against disruptive edits which inhibit progress toward building an article or building the encyclopedia. It enjoins editors to follow WP:NPOV, to achieve consensus to build the encyclopedia. I must say that NPOV is my guiding light! At Prostitution in Iran I am aiming to bring a significant minority idea into the article, following NPOV so that the article "fairly represents all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint." In all the Iran-topic articles I touch, I seek to build the articles by holding to NPOV, to introduce significant, reliably sourced minority opinions which were absent or poorly represented. Frustrated in this effort at 1953 Iranian coup d'état, I asked for mediation on March 11, 2010 but the request was rejected by Xavexgoem because three of seven named parties did not respond. A month later I initiated an ArbCom request which was just barely rejected, the declining arbitrators recommending lower level mediation. I want this matter to be solved, not extended forever with so much time and energy wasted in argument. Last December, I started an RfC at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_23#1953 Iranian coup d'état but no clear consensus was reached. Next, I tried to get the advice of some administrators on what to do about the ongoing problems but was blocked instead. When that was lifted, I started an image-related RfC at Talk:1953 Iranian coup d'état#Image text, which helped build a clear consensus and led to the cessation of image text edit warring. Similarly, I started an RfC at Talk:Abadan Crisis timeline#Shaban the Brainless in jail August 19 but no clear consensus resulted (so far). Since then I filed another formal mediation request between just myself and Kurdo777 but he did not accept mediation and so the request was closed down. I also initiated an RfC at Talk:Prostitution in Iran#Request for comment, one that is still collecting comments. In all my dealings with Iran topics, I try to adopt the NPOV stance of there being several conflicting expert interpretations of the material, with all significant views presented in proper proportion. I have participated in consensus building, initiating RfCs and talk page discussions, and the Iran articles have been improved by my interaction even if my preferred version is not adopted in full. I am not here to prevent the encyclopedia from being built, or to inhibit the building of articles. On the contrary, I am working to build articles, to add information from reliable sources.
If must be, I volunteer for a self-imposed 0RR (zero reversion) limitation on Iran articles, so that there will never be the impression that I am a POV-pushing and biased editor, which I am not.
b) Regarding the accusation that I hounded Kurdo777, I have three responses: 1) Yes, I often examine his edit history, and take a look at articles he is involved with. 2) No, I do not intend any kind of harassment by following him, nor do I practice any kind of harassment. 3) Yes, I really did follow User:Munci to the article about prostitution in Iran. I did not lie about that.
1) I have examined Kurdo777's edit history a great number of times since late June 2009 when I began interacting with him at 1953 Iranian coup d'état. The vast majority of times that I looked at his edits, I had no reason to respond; they were fair edits, or ones I could not judge. The number of articles that he is involved in which I do not ever touch is far, far greater than the six articles in which we interact: 1953 Iranian coup d'état, Abadan Crisis timeline, Mohammad Mosaddegh, Prostitution in Iran, Darioush Bayandor and Hossein Fatemi. We follow each other to user talk pages including those of User talk:Skywriter, User talk:BoogaLouie and of course our own two talk pages. I followed BoogaLouie to Darioush Bayandor and Abadan timeline, and at Hossein Fatemi both Kurdo777 and I co-existed peacefully for months on the page until recently when I initiated a 2k expansion. I followed Kurdo777 to Kurdish people where I helped him make his point with one single edit to that article, but the assistance netted me only drama on the talk page rather than thanks for helping. Kurdo777, BoogaLouie and I keep track of each other but it is not harassment, it is collegial and not meant to inhibit the person.
2) At WP:Harassment, the despicable practice is described as "a pattern of offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to have the purpose of adversely affecting a targeted person". I would never do this to anybody here. In the subsection Wikihounding, the guideline allows any editor to follow the edits of other users for collegial purposes, for "correcting related problems on multiple articles". This is exactly what I have done. I do not intend to create "irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor", nor do I follow Kurdo777 everywhere he goes to stop his enjoyment or to stop his contribution. I am not trying to inhibit his work. I am only concerned with helping out with a small number of Iran-related articles, ones at which I see problems of omission, where NPOV is not being followed fully.
3) When I was looking at the Kurdish people article, I was puzzled about one of the pipe links in the lead section which looked like "irredentist movement" but was piped to Kurdish nationalism. I looked up Irredentism, read the article and then examined its edit history. Curiously, the article did not include anything about a Kurdish nationalist movement, which I saw as an omission. I saw User:Munci was the last person to have edited the article, so I examined Munci's edit history, looking at 500 edits at a time. I wanted to see if Munci would be a good editor to recommend adding something about Kurdish nationalism, because I knew I was not. Using my browser's text string search function, I searched Munci's edits for the strings "kurd" and "Iran" and came up empty, tried again in 500 older edits and saw this edit at Kurdish language, but I could not get from this a sense of Munci's level of expertise. I examined a third batch of 500 older edits and found Prostitution in Iran, an article I had never seen but a subject I have some interest in, having recently finished the book Half The Sky by Kristof and WuDunn. The article's edit history showed my colleague Kurdo777 had just removed a bit of poorly written and poorly integrated information about temporary marriage in Iran. From this point, in the way that often happens when surfing the web, I forgot to ask Munci (or somebody else) to add a bit about Kurdish nationalism to the Irredentism article, and instead looked to help better integrate the disputed concept at Prostitution in Iran. I knew something of the dispute already, and following some searching on the web I added an extensive list of sources to the talk page, so that User:Darwinsbulldogs and User:Chrono1084 might be inspired to build a better basis for their text additions, and so Kurdo777 could see that there was, in fact, a valid basis for the poor text addition. After two days of talk page discussion I undertook the task myself, expanding the stub article by more than 5x in readable prose. I still have not contacted Munci, but when I'm unblocked I will add something about Kurdish nationalism at Talk:Irredentism to attract more editors.
In conclusion, I would like to find out from seasoned administrators how best to approach Iran-topic subjects in the future, and how best to preserve my record in building good articles. I very much want to continue adding value to Wikipedia as I have recently at Smaart, Sony MDR-V6, Nilsson Sings Newman, Calafia, Graham Blyth, Coandă-1910 and many more, and I will follow whatever path is recommended, including 0RR limitation on Iran articles. I am willing to listen to other suggestions as my goal is to help the project. Binksternet ( talk) 22:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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Not a bad block. If you agree to 0rr on all topics and moreover, not to wikihound other editors, an admin may be willing to shorten your block. Gwen Gale ( talk) 19:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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Reduced to 1 month. Xavexgoem ( talk) 02:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I wish to be unblocked. I promise to keep to 1RR for six months in all content-related disputes, allowing for more frequent reversions of vandalism. I promise not to follow Kurdo777 at all, and I promise to uphold the best editing guidelines at WP:Harassment—no hounding. Under these self-imposed restrictions I will not be a harm to the project; rather, I will continue to add to and build the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 01:45, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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Done. Only so you know, straightforward vandalism never falls under Xrr. Gwen Gale ( talk) 03:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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If some kind soul wants to help me save a DYK nomination, please go to Template_talk:Did_you_know#Calafia and add a new hook, one that involves the real world. I have never submitted a fictional DYK before, so I did not know of the C6 rule. Some choices:
...or make one up on your own. You are welcome to claim co-creation credit for this. Binksternet ( talk) 06:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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Please don't stuff it in like that, there is objections to you addition from multiple editors, and no one even wanted to comment to you RFC at all, I suggest that is reflective of the value of the content, as before, seek consensus on the talkpage, there are multiple objections. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Can you not consider the tame version ? perhaps there can be consensus for that. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
In April 2009, Crist was one of the subjects of Kirby Dick's documentary film Outrage, a Tribeca Film Festival feature about politicians who the film claims are " closeted" homosexuals and who vote against gay rights. Crist denied the allegations. [1] [2]
In April 2009, Kirby Dick's documentary film Outrage stated that Crist was a " closeted" homosexual who voted against gay rights. [3] In the film, Crist denied allegations of homosexuality, just as he denied them in 2006 when asked by Florida-based reporter Bob Norman. [4]
Please stop the edit war, just leave the picture with Crist with the Florida flag and emblem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.146.148 ( talk) 01:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Without it I doubt I would have been unblocked. It may take me a while to get back up to speed. Any particular course of action you recommend to fix the 1953 coup article? -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 20:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice efforts at Outrage (2009 film)! ;) I added an Awards sect there, and also at Kirby Dick. Cheers, -- Cirt ( talk) 14:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to give you a heads up that I updated our conversation at Talk:Bill Flores Arbor832466 ( talk) 14:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that I've started a review of your article at Talk:Caleb V. Haynes/GA1-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 18:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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BS24 is on indefinite block for abusing multiple accounts. [1] This editor has had many socks and is likely to return under a new account. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous ( talk) 17:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! That's very sweet of you :-D Yngvadottir ( talk) 06:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Can I get the Winter's full account by e-mail? The format does not matter.-- Lsorin ( talk) 07:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps these will work for you... I have never tried this method to see. Binksternet ( talk) 07:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for replying; i've chopped around a bit ~ if you like take a gander & see if you reckon it's all right. Cheers, Lindsay Hi 10:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, adding the compromise like that isn't really correct, we are looking for agreement. The issue is back at the BLPN. If you accept the compromise addition that I created then you should have said that on the talkpage and seen if there was support to add it, as you know there are other users that object to the mention of the issue at all. For your comment you added the compromise but don't support it, which is strange, anyways, we are looking for a discussed agreement, so perhaps we can work it out this time, but while we do, the issue is better out of the article. Off2riorob ( talk) 20:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
As it was a redlink in the Coanda-1910 article I thought I'd investigate. this (referring to Port Victoria P.V.8) together with this make me think it might be this: Martin KF-1. Do you have anything to confirm or deny the link? GraemeLeggett ( talk) 21:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for cleaning up and citing Schuller's actual statements about Jelly Roll. My copy is in storage during a remodel, so I couldn't do it. Josephbyrd ( talk) 22:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the error. You were perfectly correct in removing that ex link. But in my defence, I did a search and there is a redirect to that page. Again, sorry for the inconvenience I caused. Jack Jackehammond ( talk) 09:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I personally have had physical pain inflicted on me by these devices and bad cathode ray tube televisions and monitors. Unlike poor quality CRTs which make such noise as a side effect, The Mosquito was designed to make this noise. I was smart enough not to listen to lots of loud music and noises when I was young, so I can still hear many high-frequency noises that many people in my age range cannot hear. That is why I consider The Mosquito a weapon. See http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/articles.aspx?page=independentarticle&ID=210372 and http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jun/20/teenager-repellent-mosquito-banned-europe for more evidence that shows that these things cause pain and therefore are weapons. Jesse Viviano ( talk) 21:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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You consider my report on the birth place of the CD too detailed. I do not agree. Who gives you the authority to decide? It would be more polite to send me your opinion instead of just deleting my addition. If I undo your deletion I would behave in the same way.
An unpleasant encounter with the mores of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jan de Vries Underhill ( talk • contribs) 14:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for removing the links on Namman Muay. I was blocked for edit warring for doing the same thing, so I didn't want to touch them. Falcon8765 (TALK) 18:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
You may not care for the anonymous editors contributions to the talk page, but I feel they should not be deleted. a) there are certain occasions when material ought to be deleted and having a contrary opinion (malformed, ignorant, badly expressed or whathaveyou as it is) is not one of them. b) in the forceful debate going on it is best to be extra careful with the ettiquette lest it give the wrong impression to others. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 11:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Do you know if Gunston, in the books mentioned in the Coanda-1910 article which do not include Coanda, specifically credits others with the first jet engine developments? GraemeLeggett ( talk) 16:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Communicat has a case before the ArbCom and, in discussion prior to the case being accepted by ArbCom, I mentioned that you had experienced negative interactions with Communicat. Let me start by naming others with whom Communicat has had similar negative interactions, as the Committee may wish to either involve them or review the interactions: Arnoutf, Parsecboy, Binksternet, Paul Siebert, Moxy, and White Shadows. Those interactions have not been universally negative, though mostly so.
This prompted Communicat to write the onus is on Habap to inform those editors that he has involved them, so that they may speak for themselves, if at all. at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II. In the arbitration case, Communicat alleges anti-Soviet bias by the members of the WikiProject Military History, specifically naming Edward321, Hohum, Nick-D, Georgewilliamherbert and me. If you would like to present evidence, you would do so on the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II/Evidence page. If you disagree with my characterization of your interactions as being "mostly negative", it would be appreciated if you would state that on the evidence page to clarify the matter.
I apologize for involving you in this process as I am sure you have more enjoyable things to do. -- Habap ( talk) 14:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Binksternet, Thank you for the California Star, it was (in August) and continually is (by moving down...) very appreciated, and so kind and thoughtful of you.---Best--- Look2See1 t a l k → 04:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I gladly accept ! I haven't made use of a sandbox previously but I'll try to figure it out then will alert you. Carroll F. Gray ( talk) 20:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I hope that you don't mind me reverting your edit here. While it's obviously the case that B-25s were land-based bombers, the key feature of the Doolittle Raid was that they flew off an aircraft carrier as Japan was outside the range of any of the US' land-based aircraft at the time and as a result it was basically a one-off 'hit and run' operation. Conversely, the key feature of the attack on Yawata was that it was the first time that bombers flying from a permanent base attacked Japan, signaling the start of a long-running campaign. I hope that this isn't over-complicating things, and I'd be very happy to discuss it. Cheers, Nick-D ( talk) 22:13, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I reversed your removal of the credit in the Kai Winding article. Although I understand the intention, it appears that there is a standard for including credits for notable photographers with links back to their articles. WP:CREDITS references this. As you can see by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/William_Paul_Gottlieb, giving him credit for his photographs spans quite a few Jazz musician articles. I think in these cases the credit is earned. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 20:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for cleaning up there; as I fixed the article I should have checked the talk page as well—sorry. -- Old Moonraker ( talk) 21:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
You have reverted sourced content from the article three times in the span of a few minutes, that's only wanton edit warring. If you do that again within the next day or so, you will be blocked from editing. Gwen Gale ( talk) 21:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Binkster. In this edit 24.126.172.165 has removed sourced info. Article is way from something I can make content comment on. Could you possibly look into this? Thank you!-- Shirt58 ( talk) 09:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Binksternet, I see you have been doing good work trying to clean up the VW bot mess of Dec 10. I have been working backwards from the last bot edit and have got to here. I'm not sure editors have covered even half of the mal-edits as yet and with more days are more edits added to the articles. I wonder, if you are still working on this, it might make sense, as I am working backwards, for you to move forwards from the earliest change, so we don't wind up going over each others changes needlessly. It does seem like a priority as so much good work was frustratingly lost. Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Best wishes Span ( talk) 07:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
ok, no worries. good luck Span ( talk) 14:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
If you're going to "examine" articles for copyvio - make sure you actually do. You reintroduced translation copyvio here. VernoWhitney ( talk) 00:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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Materialscientist ( talk) 07:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm polling editors active in the 1953 Iranian coup article on the issue revising two sentences in the article lead.
The change is discussed here and reasons for the change also here -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 22:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
At Talk:Darioush_Bayandor#Favorable_review you say that you found a review by Steven Simon in the publication Survival. How did you find that? Is it online? I would like to quote from the review.
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03:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)Please do not edit summaries to obscure contentious edits. Use "wording" to change tone, not substance. Xavexgoem ( talk) 03:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I request to be unblocked. I will never use the edit summary "wording" to make substantial content changes. I definitely will not hide any of my edits which may be disputed or which are the subject of talk page discussions. I do not wish to conduct cause problems for other editors seeking to understand my edits. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not trying to hide edits is only part of the problem. Tendentious editing is unacceptable anyway. In addition, you have promised in the past to behave from now on if you are not blocked, and unfortunately this makes it difficult to accept such an undertaking this time. JamesBWatson ( talk) 16:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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You have my sincere sympathy for all the good it does you. Let's hope no mysterious obscene anon posts appear on Xavexgoem's talk pages saying "this is Binksternet"! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 20:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I wish to be unblocked. I promise I will not take part in tendentious editing in Iran political articles. Specifically, I will from now on restrict myself to one revert per day per Iran topic article with the requirement of including the code "rv" (for revert) in the edit summary accompanied by a simultaneous talk page entry about the reversion, in the same manner that I followed to perfection after the 1 October locking of the Coandă-1910 article. I will not hide the nature of my edits from other editors—I wish to engage them about the content of the edits, not avoid discussion (or detection!) What I aim to do regarding the Iran 1953 coup article is to compose a sandbox version of the article so that editors can discuss the differences between it and the mainspace one. Another thing I wish to do is help put together a timeline of events leading up to the August 1953 coup in Iran, one in table format with columns for different sources, so editors can more clearly see how the expert sources differ on the topic. If this unblock request is granted, it will be the first time that a promise of mine has been formally accepted and put into practice on Wikipedia. This is in rebuttal to JamesBWatson's above assertion that I made promises in the past and did not keep them; to this date there has never been an offer of mine which has been accepted by reviewing administrators, so I cannot have broken any promises. I am true to my word—keeping promises is very important to me—and will hold to all that I have described here if unblocked. Binksternet (talk) 04:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Sounds good (1RR, rv if revert, etc). Good editing! Xavexgoem ( talk) 12:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much for my barnstar. Let's keep up the good work. Jaespinoza ( talk) 20:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, although I have the book on the shelf which would present the proper verification, I don't have the book available in proximity to a computer and won't likely be home to retrieve it until after the inter-semester break. I am not necessarily objecting that the revert is bad, but I think that on balance it is a bit heavy handed in that the deleted statement is almost a tautology. Anyone who has taken a history course at any level, in fact any academic work, should regard it as almost self evident that such a contentious topic would have gone through an evolution of historical opinion. And everybody knows intuitively that history - History - implies some distance in the past, such as a full century.
So to delete as unverified or unsourced the statement that the perspective on the Hiroshima Nagasaki bombing has evolved or gone through phases is a tad bit spurious, wouldn't you agree? As if that could possibly be not so.
A look at your award winning article on the entymologist indicates that it is possible to go no further than the second or third paragraph to find un-sourced statements. So it seems that you are applying a heavy hand at deleting others' work than you are taking on your own work.
I am not necessarily getting riled over that but I think that the point warrants being stated. I think that if you also have a problem with the statement that the discovery of the Truman papers caused a shift in historical opinion, that it would have been better to delete that phrase and let the summary stand, to wit, that opinions have evolved.
This may seem unecessary and self evident and it would be if the article were properly written in the first place. But the article is imperfect in that it unduly highlights the one Walker opinion given excessive prominence. My final edit just rectified that somewhat sophomoric error by putting an almost standard bit of perspective setting and foundation. Do you doubt that there has been evolution in the thinking on the topic.
But yes, there is no "proof" that opinion shifted. It would be more credible though to spend some time googling and add citations or details than to delete them when they are correct and almost self evident.
If you refute them, that is a different matter, but where is your citation?
I am not at all convinced that the revert, although legal, makes the article any better. You seem to be into working fast and it is so much easier to scan something, find an uncited statement, and delete whole chunks or writing. It is much harder to find out if it is true.
So I will be off line for a few weeks and the article may sit as written, warts and all. I think that maybe you revert it because you can, and it would speak well for your tier of wikipedians if you would perhaps contribute something to help shape that article up, with respect if not to the issues I am addressing, then to some other.
Maybe I will find a scrap of time to try out a few edits and would be interested to see if there is ever any assistance in adding good constructive content available from the higher echelons of wikipedians, or if there is only the bleak landscape of deletions and reversions and legalistic enforcement of new layers of rules with no connection to the underlying truth or falsity...do you doubt that there were new Truman papers that came out after 1945? Why not just put in that a citation is ommitted or a citation is needed? Why nuke the thing? Wikidgood ( talk) 01:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear Binksternet, how are you? You might not remember me, but you helped me a great deal with the FA promotion of Madonna. I never got to thank you for that *shame on me*. I plan to nominate the above article for FAC, can you just take a brief look and see how close is it to being a smooth FA? — Legolas (talk2me) 11:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
"Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia." Read it carefully. You have been warned this type of behavior in the past. Prior to today, you had never edited Kurdish people, or shown any interest whatsoever about this topic. You're clearly following me around, to topics outside of your area of expertise or interest , "with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress" in me. Consider this your first and last warning to cease and desist. Kurdo777 ( talk) 17:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
"Continuum" refers to Kurdish language, not the Indo-European family. Kurdo777 ( talk) 18:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Kurdish people, where this discussion should have been all along. You misinterpreted my actions as hounding. I did not intend to confront you or inhibit you, I intended to correct the English, to make the sentence say what you wanted it to say. Binksternet ( talk) 18:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Here you said that you favored a more condensed selection of sources for the last paragraph in the lead, 2 or 3, but then reinserted the mass of them. Whats up with that? - Schrandit ( talk) 23:39, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much, for your helpful input in the GA Review for The Most Hated Family in America. I have made several edits in efforts to address your suggested improvements to the page, I believe the bulk of your recommendations have now been directly implemented. Perhaps if you have copyediting ideas, it would be appreciated if you wish to make additional modifications. ;) Thanks again, -- Cirt ( talk) 05:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey Binksternet,
I've just removed those two links because of their irrelevancy for the article; why have you added them back? They do not seem to be related to the surrender of Japan or Japan itself at all. According to
WP:OVERLINK, "an article is said to be overlinked if it links to words that can be understood by most readers of the English Wikipedia." – and I think phrases to save face and the word leaflet are understood by most readers.
odder (
talk)
23:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
As a volunteer run outfit with, at the moment, uncertainty about the fire safety works and its lease/ site ownership I wouldn't be surprised if the re-opening slipped. Here's the latest news wein the local paper. You might want to check the paper's site as well as the museum's website closer to your travel date. If your were to trek into East Anglia - there is Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum. I'm trying to think if there are any WWII airfields (that haven't been ploughed under or built over) worth dropping by at for a flavour of the past. GraemeLeggett ( talk) 18:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
You're once again engaged in edit-warring on an Iran-related page, Abadan Crisis timeline, citing a non-existent consensus in your edit summaries. You were recently blocked for this type of Tendentious editing behavior. You were told previously by several editors and administrators that Bayandor is not an acceptable source for 1953-related pages. But you're once again trying to introduce a disputed fringe theory by him into one of these articles, which goes against the academic consensus on the issue, and violate our polices on WP:UNDUE, and WP:AUTO. Please stop trying to force this material onto the page, without getting a clear consensus. Kurdo777 ( talk) 18:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Unlike you, I'm doing this the right way and discussing the reverts that people seem to want to continue to do and in the process create edit wars over. How is it possibly too much "promotion" of Gibson? I shrunk that down to nothing. The above section about "Impact" also includes additional sentences about other artists to express a point. I think showing how Stevie was his idol (not mentioned by the other artists) and that the voices are similar (it's apparent you're not familiar with Gibson's work) is noteworthy. That's the only other thing I included. I can take this to the talk page or discuss with other admin to get a concensus but it's not worth removing just because someone doesn't like it. The other problem is that you removed two other good edits I made with that change that are acceptable. I'm not trying to "showboat" Gibson. I'm trying to expand and improve the articles with facts. Originally I just copied the entire mention about him working with Wonder from his article then reduced it and then again just down to the source. So there is no way it's too much. The other explanations was already there about him. I think you're not looking at the big picture here. Many articles still discuss other artists if they pertain to the person the article is about, and there was definitely a relationship worth mentioning in the article. Just because you're not aware of it perhaps, doesn't make it wrong. It's sourced. It should stay. It's a minor thing here, and according to Wiki, we aren't looking for perfection and the edit doesn't "hurt anyone" and is still "productive and correct". Thanks! 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 01:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
See talk page for my response and these added points (you are trying to "sufficate" something minor for the "promotion" of Stevie Wonder and in this case your reverts are wrong):
FYI: You can view Gibson's article to see all the many sources I found. Maybe the way you do searches don't yield many results. For instance: [2] I would say Billboard is more than adequate, among the others. I've never searched the way you claim, with " " and +'s. So saying that he's unimportant is your opinion and shouldn't have affected the edit regardless. Hope next time you are more mindful and neutral with individual's input/contributions. Good luck... 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 16:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That's it? Ok, someone else can take care of this then. 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 04:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, and it's my pleasure - your edits were constructive and beneficial; I'm unsure as to why others would have rejected it. Please let me know if I can ever be of any other assistance. Nick Wilson (talk) 06:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I responded to the issue on Talk:Stevie_Wonder, BLPs are a particularly sensitive issue with Wikipedia:No_original_research, but your point on Gibson was mentioned in your sources and appears to be valid. Have you considered making an account on wikipedia? If you do register, please let me know! Nick Wilson (talk) 07:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Your edits are sourced, in good faith, and constructive. I'll remain neutral with regards to whether Gibson should be mentioned in a BLP in this respect, but because it is sourced and there is a clear relationship between the two, I feel matters should be discussed and debated here. I strongly feel the pending changes system was put in place to prevent nonconstructive or highly controversial edits to notable articles, and not to prevent or obstruct users from making good faith contributions. This absolutely isn't highly controversial, and I hope fellow wikipedians will respect equality and debate the topic here instead of rejecting further edits by you. On the same token, you are arguably tiptoeing around the Wikipedia:Three-revert_rule on this article so please tread carefully! Nick Wilson (talk) 06:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I certainly understand your point and I sympathize and apologize that you've been through so much red tape, but want to echo Nick's point: registering for an account is a good way to avoid some of the issues that you've encountered. Personally, much of my wiki work is in the area of "RC patrol," or looking through recent changes and reverting vandalism. Many editors are naturally more suspicious of changes made by users without accounts, because as unfair as it is, a lot of vandalism comes from anonymous editors. A lot of good edits come from anonymous editors too, and you're certainly one of those, but when you're wading through page after page of vandalism, it's very easy for something to "look wrong" and be too quick on the revert button. Again, this isn't your fault, in fact you're one of the more rare exceptions: an anonymous editor who cites sources and discusses controversial edits. But I think registering might help other editors better assume good faith in your edits and help you get farther around here. It's certainly your option not to register, but just something to keep in mind. Zachlipton (talk) 07:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Please be respectful. I am covering myself because you are playing games. That is a weak "argument". If that's the case, other mentioning of people in his and many other articles should be removed. Like about other artists he worked with. You just don't like it and that's why you are reverting it. It DOES involve both artists and explains an early relationship they had in music. It is related to the section and person. Those are his songs, used/covered just like the section says, and explains him backing vocals and working together on albums. That is just as much legit as any other text put within articles about people's work together. You know it. I am contacting an admin who blocked you previously to discuss this further, I'm not resolving it with you anymore. You are not cooperating properly. You must think I'm an idiot because I use an IP and not logged into an account or something. You are profiling and not following proper guidelines based on your seemingly selfish ego. Good bye! 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 04:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
See bottom of Wonder talk page for other issues since you are questioning mine which isn't any more wrong than those within the article. I only listed a few, there are many more. Gotta be consistant here or else you're doing it based on prejudice and preference. 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 08:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I know now what I have to do and will go as far up as possible because it's these little issues, lies and discripencies that lead to bigger problems and vandals. You may be stroking your pride/ego because you got your way but we both know you're wrong in this situation and you don't want to admit that. Nonetheless, I'll be the bigger man but not before removing text that you claim, like mine, do not meet the guidelines. For instance, this will be deleted from the article: Contrary to popular belief, Minnie Riperton didn't start her career with Wonderlove, since she began her professional career as lead singer of the girl group The Gems in the '60s and later found critical success with the psychedelic soul band Rotary Connection before leaving the group for her acclaimed solo career in 1970. Riperton did provide background vocal work for some of Wonder's albums after they became friends following the production of Perfect Angel in 1974. Wonder wrote a song dedicated to Riperton that he presented near her hospital bed prior to her death in July 1979. Goodbye... 63.131.4.149 ( talk) 09:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
-- Kumioko ( talk) 02:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Do you know anything about the claim that Ştefan Odobleja anticipated Norbert Wiener's very famous and influential work on cybernetics? I half-remember this as being weird and crankish, and the Romanian nationalist angle reminds me of the recent Coanda thing. I don't remember Odobleja mentioned in some Wiener biographies I read a while back. I'm not sure whether to try cleaning it up from WP's Wiener-related articles. 67.122.209.190 ( talk) 11:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hossein_Fatemi#recent_edits -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 02:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Gavin Servelle is indeed a prominent member of the Palm Springs gay rights community, as well as a gay rights activist. I'm quite appalled by your gross negligence in deleting his name. He deserves to be credited on Wikipedia for all of the work he has done for the community.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Seahorses ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
On December 20th I said that I would check back and see whether a comment I had left here was justified or not. At the time I was too busy to deal with it immediately, and unfortunately it then got left and forgotten. I am sorry not to have followed this up. It has now been so long that I don't remember the background of the case fully, so I have spent a little while looking back through your editing history. I cannot now find a specific undertaking that you made that you then directly broke the letter of, but there are various things you have said that are in the general spirit of promising to hold back from edit-warring, but you subsequently continued to edit-war. For example, in this edit you gave an undertaking to hold back. This was very probably meant to apply only to the particular article in issue at that time, and that you did not actually breach the undertaking in this case. However, I think that when I wrote "you have promised in the past to behave from now on if you are not blocked" I had in mind that your history of being blocked for edit-warring, together with statements such as the one I have referred to, indicated that you were well aware of the need to avoid edit-warring, and had indicated a willing to do so, but had repeatedly slipped back into edit-warring, rather than that you had made a specific promise which you had broken. I apologise that I did not make that clearer at the time, and also that it has taken me so long to make this response.
What brought this back to mind was something quite different. I have received a request on my talk page to intervene against you in the dispute you are involved in at
Stevie Wonder. I have declined to do so, as you will see if you care to look at
the relevant discussion. However, I thought it a matter of courtesy to let you know the approach had been made. The user has also asked another admin to support their case and received a refusal, and has indicated the intention of trying to find another one.
JamesBWatson (
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09:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The only birth certificate for Carlos Gardel is fr/ Toulouse in France, 1890. There are photos showing Gardel w/, oddly enough, his birth family, oddly enough, in France. Do you know Orly Taitz? This is reminiscent of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate 'dispute.' Quite candidly, it's boring. But I have a strong attachment to factual accuracy, and I think a good way to improve Wikipedia is NOT to let people inflict non-existent disputes here. Forewarned. Tapered ( talk) 21:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Calafia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The Bushranger One ping only 23:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Dear Binksternet: I just discovered that you removed a portion of an entry I made under the article "Loudness War" solely under the grounds that I as the editor created the entry as a "conflict of interest". Personally I think it is a meaningful omission from this article to not include references to a book chapter which covers the loudness war or the AES workshop which preceded it. Furthermore, my entry was made in a neutral style, was not self-promotional and anyone could look up the name of the editor who made the post. If it is suitable or sufficient to declare a possible conflict of interest in order to restore the entry, I'll be happy to do so, but obviously I did not attempt to hide my identity as an editor as you detected a "conflict". However, by omission you've reduced the power of the article. The article, to which you substantially contributed, may be very thorough and accurate, but it is disrespectful to excise this entry on the grounds of conflict of interest without a) communicating with the editor (myself) to discuss it further and/or b) recognizing the validity of this entry and rewriting it as another editor (either choice would be suitable). You should also note that in the context of this edit I cited a book by Greg Milner which you chose not to remove. So that by removing the portion of my edit which cites my book, you've made a judgment on your part which book is "more important".
It is the experts themselves who often can best contribute to a specific topic. So it should not be necessary to qualify an entry as "neutral" by expurgating the contributions of the editor to that article. Viz: Encyclopedia Britannica, which often employs editors on a topic who are experts and contributors to that topic themselves and sometimes cite their own contributions. Would you exclude an edit by Richard Branson about balloon flights which cited his own record-breaking balloon flight on the grounds of conflict of interest?
Sincerely,
Bobkatz24bit ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Bobkatz24bit Since this is my first edit in Wikipedia I am floundering at the methods used to contact editors, do not know how to return to this page, and it is likely I will not see your reply unless you also cc me directly at my email, bobkatz[atsign]digido.com. Thanks.
Great! Sorry I missed you at SF! BK Bobkatz24bit ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Bobkatz24bit
Please
do not attack other editors, as you did here: "
a boy in school". If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Kurdo777 (
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19:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Just so you know, " my esteemed colleague" is not used ironically! -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 16:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
{{
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below this notice, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Xavexgoem (
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12:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Note to reviewing admins:
Binksternet, either you:
Either way, it's tendentious, which you've been warned and blocked against for more than enough times. Xavexgoem ( talk) 12:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
This is a bad block based on a pair of faulty premises: a) that my editing since December 20 has been tendentious at Iran-topic articles and b) that I lied to User:Kurdo777, hounding him in violation of the guideline at WP:Harassment.
a) Per agreement at my recent block I have been editing Iran-topic articles with a self-imposed 1RR limit, agreed to by Xavexgoem, with reversions labeled 'rv' and every reversion accompanied by a talk page entry explaining it. I have not broken that agreement. At WP:Disruptive editing, the guideline about tendentiousness warns against disruptive edits which inhibit progress toward building an article or building the encyclopedia. It enjoins editors to follow WP:NPOV, to achieve consensus to build the encyclopedia. I must say that NPOV is my guiding light! At Prostitution in Iran I am aiming to bring a significant minority idea into the article, following NPOV so that the article "fairly represents all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint." In all the Iran-topic articles I touch, I seek to build the articles by holding to NPOV, to introduce significant, reliably sourced minority opinions which were absent or poorly represented. Frustrated in this effort at 1953 Iranian coup d'état, I asked for mediation on March 11, 2010 but the request was rejected by Xavexgoem because three of seven named parties did not respond. A month later I initiated an ArbCom request which was just barely rejected, the declining arbitrators recommending lower level mediation. I want this matter to be solved, not extended forever with so much time and energy wasted in argument. Last December, I started an RfC at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_23#1953 Iranian coup d'état but no clear consensus was reached. Next, I tried to get the advice of some administrators on what to do about the ongoing problems but was blocked instead. When that was lifted, I started an image-related RfC at Talk:1953 Iranian coup d'état#Image text, which helped build a clear consensus and led to the cessation of image text edit warring. Similarly, I started an RfC at Talk:Abadan Crisis timeline#Shaban the Brainless in jail August 19 but no clear consensus resulted (so far). Since then I filed another formal mediation request between just myself and Kurdo777 but he did not accept mediation and so the request was closed down. I also initiated an RfC at Talk:Prostitution in Iran#Request for comment, one that is still collecting comments. In all my dealings with Iran topics, I try to adopt the NPOV stance of there being several conflicting expert interpretations of the material, with all significant views presented in proper proportion. I have participated in consensus building, initiating RfCs and talk page discussions, and the Iran articles have been improved by my interaction even if my preferred version is not adopted in full. I am not here to prevent the encyclopedia from being built, or to inhibit the building of articles. On the contrary, I am working to build articles, to add information from reliable sources.
If must be, I volunteer for a self-imposed 0RR (zero reversion) limitation on Iran articles, so that there will never be the impression that I am a POV-pushing and biased editor, which I am not.
b) Regarding the accusation that I hounded Kurdo777, I have three responses: 1) Yes, I often examine his edit history, and take a look at articles he is involved with. 2) No, I do not intend any kind of harassment by following him, nor do I practice any kind of harassment. 3) Yes, I really did follow User:Munci to the article about prostitution in Iran. I did not lie about that.
1) I have examined Kurdo777's edit history a great number of times since late June 2009 when I began interacting with him at 1953 Iranian coup d'état. The vast majority of times that I looked at his edits, I had no reason to respond; they were fair edits, or ones I could not judge. The number of articles that he is involved in which I do not ever touch is far, far greater than the six articles in which we interact: 1953 Iranian coup d'état, Abadan Crisis timeline, Mohammad Mosaddegh, Prostitution in Iran, Darioush Bayandor and Hossein Fatemi. We follow each other to user talk pages including those of User talk:Skywriter, User talk:BoogaLouie and of course our own two talk pages. I followed BoogaLouie to Darioush Bayandor and Abadan timeline, and at Hossein Fatemi both Kurdo777 and I co-existed peacefully for months on the page until recently when I initiated a 2k expansion. I followed Kurdo777 to Kurdish people where I helped him make his point with one single edit to that article, but the assistance netted me only drama on the talk page rather than thanks for helping. Kurdo777, BoogaLouie and I keep track of each other but it is not harassment, it is collegial and not meant to inhibit the person.
2) At WP:Harassment, the despicable practice is described as "a pattern of offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to have the purpose of adversely affecting a targeted person". I would never do this to anybody here. In the subsection Wikihounding, the guideline allows any editor to follow the edits of other users for collegial purposes, for "correcting related problems on multiple articles". This is exactly what I have done. I do not intend to create "irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor", nor do I follow Kurdo777 everywhere he goes to stop his enjoyment or to stop his contribution. I am not trying to inhibit his work. I am only concerned with helping out with a small number of Iran-related articles, ones at which I see problems of omission, where NPOV is not being followed fully.
3) When I was looking at the Kurdish people article, I was puzzled about one of the pipe links in the lead section which looked like "irredentist movement" but was piped to Kurdish nationalism. I looked up Irredentism, read the article and then examined its edit history. Curiously, the article did not include anything about a Kurdish nationalist movement, which I saw as an omission. I saw User:Munci was the last person to have edited the article, so I examined Munci's edit history, looking at 500 edits at a time. I wanted to see if Munci would be a good editor to recommend adding something about Kurdish nationalism, because I knew I was not. Using my browser's text string search function, I searched Munci's edits for the strings "kurd" and "Iran" and came up empty, tried again in 500 older edits and saw this edit at Kurdish language, but I could not get from this a sense of Munci's level of expertise. I examined a third batch of 500 older edits and found Prostitution in Iran, an article I had never seen but a subject I have some interest in, having recently finished the book Half The Sky by Kristof and WuDunn. The article's edit history showed my colleague Kurdo777 had just removed a bit of poorly written and poorly integrated information about temporary marriage in Iran. From this point, in the way that often happens when surfing the web, I forgot to ask Munci (or somebody else) to add a bit about Kurdish nationalism to the Irredentism article, and instead looked to help better integrate the disputed concept at Prostitution in Iran. I knew something of the dispute already, and following some searching on the web I added an extensive list of sources to the talk page, so that User:Darwinsbulldogs and User:Chrono1084 might be inspired to build a better basis for their text additions, and so Kurdo777 could see that there was, in fact, a valid basis for the poor text addition. After two days of talk page discussion I undertook the task myself, expanding the stub article by more than 5x in readable prose. I still have not contacted Munci, but when I'm unblocked I will add something about Kurdish nationalism at Talk:Irredentism to attract more editors.
In conclusion, I would like to find out from seasoned administrators how best to approach Iran-topic subjects in the future, and how best to preserve my record in building good articles. I very much want to continue adding value to Wikipedia as I have recently at Smaart, Sony MDR-V6, Nilsson Sings Newman, Calafia, Graham Blyth, Coandă-1910 and many more, and I will follow whatever path is recommended, including 0RR limitation on Iran articles. I am willing to listen to other suggestions as my goal is to help the project. Binksternet ( talk) 22:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not a bad block. If you agree to 0rr on all topics and moreover, not to wikihound other editors, an admin may be willing to shorten your block. Gwen Gale ( talk) 19:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Reduced to 1 month. Xavexgoem ( talk) 02:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Binksternet ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I wish to be unblocked. I promise to keep to 1RR for six months in all content-related disputes, allowing for more frequent reversions of vandalism. I promise not to follow Kurdo777 at all, and I promise to uphold the best editing guidelines at WP:Harassment—no hounding. Under these self-imposed restrictions I will not be a harm to the project; rather, I will continue to add to and build the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 01:45, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Done. Only so you know, straightforward vandalism never falls under Xrr. Gwen Gale ( talk) 03:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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If some kind soul wants to help me save a DYK nomination, please go to Template_talk:Did_you_know#Calafia and add a new hook, one that involves the real world. I have never submitted a fictional DYK before, so I did not know of the C6 rule. Some choices:
...or make one up on your own. You are welcome to claim co-creation credit for this. Binksternet ( talk) 06:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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