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please stay in the top three tiers


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Hey...

...old friend. I'll get used to the name. Good to see you. I'm about to head out and get a beer; you should come. Drmies ( talk) 21:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey back at you. It's been a weird adjustment for me as well, but I'm digging it now. I believe I have a couple of cans of "Quilter's Irish Death" in the fridge, it's like 9%ABV and dark as the night, and I don't have anywhere to be this afternoon, so consider it done. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Not sure the whole thing should be closed simply because it's being discussed at DYK

I have no objection to closing the 24-hour block issue, but discussion at DYK can't really result in a...well, result. There is an actual problem. Valereee ( talk) 22:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The main discussion had actually stalled out pretty much the moment the block subthread was opened, I just left a pointer there in case people still wanted to discuss the underlying issue. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
For what it's worth I agree with you about the utility of 24-hour blocks. That's actually a big part of why I closed the discussion. Short, timed blocks are usually issued shortly after the incident that justifies them, to stop ongoing disruption. As a 24-hour block was the only sanction being actively discussed, and nobody had issued it after two days, it just seemed pointless to leave it open. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Your close at ANI

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Your close at ANI was not appropriate, especially based on your off-wiki friendship with ATG. I ask you to allow discussion to continue and consider yourself involved. The discussion was less than two days old and participation was not completed. You closed two discussions involving ATG in their favor twice this week. Lightburst ( talk) 23:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Off-wiki friendship? Um, what? Since when does posting on the same forum, and occasionally agreeing with each other, constitute sufficient evidence to merit claims of being 'involved'? If that is the standard we are going to apply, we need to ban the entire Wikipedia contributor base, since they regularly express agreement with each other regarding all sorts of things, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 23:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
It is more than that. It is on an anti-wiki group that posts personal info of wikipedia editors and skewers DYK every day in a thread called cluster fuck. You and JSS are frequent participants WO. We need a review of this involved action which served you by cutting off ongoing discussion. Lightburst ( talk) 23:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure. Why not add 'burn the heretics' to Wikipedia policy and go the whole hog. Everything will then be wonderful in Wikiland, because nobody in their right mind will say otherwise... AndyTheGrump ( talk) 23:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Lightburst ( talk) 00:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hot hoot

The spoilsport's barnowl star
Think you know it owl  :) ——Serial Number 54129 13:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I did get a good laugh out of it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The recent accounts disrupting the Teahouse and Help Desk

Hey, thanks for doing your part in blocking yet another account from the same user. Any chance that an IP account creation ban can be enforced for the address or range? — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 21:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm hoping a CU shows up at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/14 novembre and does exactly that. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
If nobody else gets to it first there's also Quovalos now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe ( talk) 21:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

A request for your opinion

Hello, Just Step Sideways. I'm here to consult you about an unblock request, hoping that we can settle this one more amicably than the last one.

You quite rightly imposed a spamusername block on an editor known at the time as "Sagicor CorpDev", now renamed to "TWall4". The editor has posted an unblock request on their talk page, and then, impatient at the delay in getting a response, a longer appeal on UTRS. The essential points are, I think, that their username has been changed, thus dealing with the username part of the "spamusername", and they have attempted to deal with the other aspect of the block rationale by disclosing their COI and their PAID status, and undertaking to submit requests to edit by talk page posts. On the face of it, that means that they have dealt with the reasons for the block. I am less than 100% convinced, because their previous editing, now deleted, was unambiguously promotional, but since they have undertaken to work via edit requests that may not be important, as there's always the answer "no". My conclusion is that although I'm not totally convinced, I would be inclined to give them another chance, with the block button in reserve if necessary. Do you have any opinion on the matter? JBW ( talk) 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

In this case I think we see things pretty much the same. A WP:ROPE unblock seems reasonable. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I PRODed this page and I wonder if this page is salvageable in any ways or if I made the right decision proposing it for deletion. 104.7.152.180 ( talk) 04:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Not exactly sure why you came to me with this, but being co-founder of India Against Corruption seems at least kind of notable. It's possible the biography could be expanded from the references at that article. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Re: Possible Splitting Strategies

I’ve thought about the possibility of splitting the List of indoor arenas in the United States page. After some consideration, I think the arenas should be split by state. Here’s how it would look for Florida: user:Wjenkins96/sandbox. Any suggestions? Wjenkins96 ( talk) 17:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Marcelus 1RR appeal

Hi Beebs, question about your closure of Marcelus's appeal. As this is a contentious topics restriction "a clear consensus of uninvolved editors at AN" is required to modify it. My reading your close is that there is isn't a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than there being a consensus to change it. Is that right? Either way I don't think there's any reason to change your close but wanted to ask the question. Callanecc ( talkcontribslogs) 02:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess I'd say sometimes there is a disconnect between the wording of policy and the reality of a situation and we just have to do our best to reconcile the two. The appeal had been open for nearly two weeks and had been archived and brought back out twice, with nobody really voicing a strong opinion in favor of retaining it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree for community-based restrictions given there's only one place (AN) to appeal them. The reason I asked is that for CTOP restrictions there is an intentionally higher bar to pass but also more places to appeal it (imposing admin, AN, AE & ARCA). As I said no reason to change the close but something to consider. I guess part of the consideration is whether there's a need to ask ArbCom to change the appeals wording so it's more about a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than a consensus to overturn. I don't really think that's necessary but YMMV. Callanecc ( talkcontribslogs) 03:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Looking socky around my talk

Thanks for looking out. I have been unkind discussing your involvement in other places for a few years now. But then tonight in the midst of being cross with me, you demonstrated adminsitrative neutrality. The same thing happened with SFR recently - and it surprised me. The longer I am on the project the more I learn to respect the regulars and recalibrate my thinking. I think I know whose sock that was but I will likely stay mum. cheers! Lightburst ( talk) 04:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Oops, I thought you did the reverts, it was another editor and admin and a blocked SPA, but anyway, carry on and enjoy your week! Lightburst ( talk) 04:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Lightburst, they've also sent a notice on this very talk page, as they did with others. Not gonna lie, I don't like socks trying to throw fuel on the fire. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 04:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Looks like I missed this particular incident, nonetheless, I can assure you I don't give block evading trolls a free pass just because their target is someone I happen to have been in a disagreement with. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, in spite of our disagreements I know that is true. Lightburst ( talk) 16:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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RfA candidate S O N S% Ending (UTC) Time left Dups? Report
Elli 167 4 0 98 16:53, 7 June 2024 2 days, 21 hoursno report
RfB candidate S O N S% Ending (UTC) Time left Dups? Report

Last updated by cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online at 19:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC) reply


please stay in the top three tiers


XFD backlog
V Mar Apr May Jun Total
CfD 0 9 36 0 45
TfD 0 0 12 0 12
MfD 0 0 2 0 2
FfD 0 0 4 0 4
RfD 0 2 22 0 24
AfD 0 0 0 0 0

Hey...

...old friend. I'll get used to the name. Good to see you. I'm about to head out and get a beer; you should come. Drmies ( talk) 21:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey back at you. It's been a weird adjustment for me as well, but I'm digging it now. I believe I have a couple of cans of "Quilter's Irish Death" in the fridge, it's like 9%ABV and dark as the night, and I don't have anywhere to be this afternoon, so consider it done. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Not sure the whole thing should be closed simply because it's being discussed at DYK

I have no objection to closing the 24-hour block issue, but discussion at DYK can't really result in a...well, result. There is an actual problem. Valereee ( talk) 22:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The main discussion had actually stalled out pretty much the moment the block subthread was opened, I just left a pointer there in case people still wanted to discuss the underlying issue. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
For what it's worth I agree with you about the utility of 24-hour blocks. That's actually a big part of why I closed the discussion. Short, timed blocks are usually issued shortly after the incident that justifies them, to stop ongoing disruption. As a 24-hour block was the only sanction being actively discussed, and nobody had issued it after two days, it just seemed pointless to leave it open. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Your close at ANI

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Your close at ANI was not appropriate, especially based on your off-wiki friendship with ATG. I ask you to allow discussion to continue and consider yourself involved. The discussion was less than two days old and participation was not completed. You closed two discussions involving ATG in their favor twice this week. Lightburst ( talk) 23:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Off-wiki friendship? Um, what? Since when does posting on the same forum, and occasionally agreeing with each other, constitute sufficient evidence to merit claims of being 'involved'? If that is the standard we are going to apply, we need to ban the entire Wikipedia contributor base, since they regularly express agreement with each other regarding all sorts of things, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 23:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
It is more than that. It is on an anti-wiki group that posts personal info of wikipedia editors and skewers DYK every day in a thread called cluster fuck. You and JSS are frequent participants WO. We need a review of this involved action which served you by cutting off ongoing discussion. Lightburst ( talk) 23:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure. Why not add 'burn the heretics' to Wikipedia policy and go the whole hog. Everything will then be wonderful in Wikiland, because nobody in their right mind will say otherwise... AndyTheGrump ( talk) 23:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Lightburst ( talk) 00:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hot hoot

The spoilsport's barnowl star
Think you know it owl  :) ——Serial Number 54129 13:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I did get a good laugh out of it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The recent accounts disrupting the Teahouse and Help Desk

Hey, thanks for doing your part in blocking yet another account from the same user. Any chance that an IP account creation ban can be enforced for the address or range? — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 21:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm hoping a CU shows up at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/14 novembre and does exactly that. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
If nobody else gets to it first there's also Quovalos now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe ( talk) 21:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

A request for your opinion

Hello, Just Step Sideways. I'm here to consult you about an unblock request, hoping that we can settle this one more amicably than the last one.

You quite rightly imposed a spamusername block on an editor known at the time as "Sagicor CorpDev", now renamed to "TWall4". The editor has posted an unblock request on their talk page, and then, impatient at the delay in getting a response, a longer appeal on UTRS. The essential points are, I think, that their username has been changed, thus dealing with the username part of the "spamusername", and they have attempted to deal with the other aspect of the block rationale by disclosing their COI and their PAID status, and undertaking to submit requests to edit by talk page posts. On the face of it, that means that they have dealt with the reasons for the block. I am less than 100% convinced, because their previous editing, now deleted, was unambiguously promotional, but since they have undertaken to work via edit requests that may not be important, as there's always the answer "no". My conclusion is that although I'm not totally convinced, I would be inclined to give them another chance, with the block button in reserve if necessary. Do you have any opinion on the matter? JBW ( talk) 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

In this case I think we see things pretty much the same. A WP:ROPE unblock seems reasonable. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I PRODed this page and I wonder if this page is salvageable in any ways or if I made the right decision proposing it for deletion. 104.7.152.180 ( talk) 04:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Not exactly sure why you came to me with this, but being co-founder of India Against Corruption seems at least kind of notable. It's possible the biography could be expanded from the references at that article. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Re: Possible Splitting Strategies

I’ve thought about the possibility of splitting the List of indoor arenas in the United States page. After some consideration, I think the arenas should be split by state. Here’s how it would look for Florida: user:Wjenkins96/sandbox. Any suggestions? Wjenkins96 ( talk) 17:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Marcelus 1RR appeal

Hi Beebs, question about your closure of Marcelus's appeal. As this is a contentious topics restriction "a clear consensus of uninvolved editors at AN" is required to modify it. My reading your close is that there is isn't a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than there being a consensus to change it. Is that right? Either way I don't think there's any reason to change your close but wanted to ask the question. Callanecc ( talkcontribslogs) 02:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess I'd say sometimes there is a disconnect between the wording of policy and the reality of a situation and we just have to do our best to reconcile the two. The appeal had been open for nearly two weeks and had been archived and brought back out twice, with nobody really voicing a strong opinion in favor of retaining it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree for community-based restrictions given there's only one place (AN) to appeal them. The reason I asked is that for CTOP restrictions there is an intentionally higher bar to pass but also more places to appeal it (imposing admin, AN, AE & ARCA). As I said no reason to change the close but something to consider. I guess part of the consideration is whether there's a need to ask ArbCom to change the appeals wording so it's more about a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than a consensus to overturn. I don't really think that's necessary but YMMV. Callanecc ( talkcontribslogs) 03:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Looking socky around my talk

Thanks for looking out. I have been unkind discussing your involvement in other places for a few years now. But then tonight in the midst of being cross with me, you demonstrated adminsitrative neutrality. The same thing happened with SFR recently - and it surprised me. The longer I am on the project the more I learn to respect the regulars and recalibrate my thinking. I think I know whose sock that was but I will likely stay mum. cheers! Lightburst ( talk) 04:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Oops, I thought you did the reverts, it was another editor and admin and a blocked SPA, but anyway, carry on and enjoy your week! Lightburst ( talk) 04:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Lightburst, they've also sent a notice on this very talk page, as they did with others. Not gonna lie, I don't like socks trying to throw fuel on the fire. LilianaUwU ( talk / contributions) 04:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Looks like I missed this particular incident, nonetheless, I can assure you I don't give block evading trolls a free pass just because their target is someone I happen to have been in a disagreement with. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, in spite of our disagreements I know that is true. Lightburst ( talk) 16:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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