User:Clariosophic/Archive2 (2008)
Hi. I see that you are involved with Registered Historic Places. Do you know if the aforementioned is or isn't one? -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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Do you really think this is necessary? Are you quite familiar with the Church of the Nazarene? Let's talk! Aepoutre ( talk) 17:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that you had an interest in the St. Andrew's Episcopal photo that I uploaded earlier, so I went ahead and uploaded a couple more to Wikimedia Commons that may be of interest to you: [[Image:Lowdnesborostpauls.jpg]] & [[Image:StJohnsForkland.jpg]]. I believe that both are based on Upjohn designs, but neither have an article as of yet. They are both in [[Category:Churches in Alabama]] at Commons. Cheers. Altairisfar talk 22:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the Waldwic article. I guess that now I'll have to dig out those photos! I have boxes and boxes of prints (I never got around to albums). When I locate them I'll upload and let you know. And I also wanted to let you know that I've enjoyed exploring your userpages, very interesting! Cheers. Altairisfar talk 22:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you classify them as islands or settlements? The former uses the bracket convention and the latter the comma (except for New Zealand). Local usage would appear to be immatereal. In some cases there is both an island an a community by the same name. Toss a coin... Peter Horn 18:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Anna Maria Island (Florida) would be more apropreate because there are three settlements or communities on one island. The island naming convention would override the local usage, or is Florida going to be another exception along with New Zealand??? Peter Horn 18:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Eureka!!! Anna Maria Island, Three (3) cities on one (1) island!! Anna Maria, Florida, the city on the north end of Anna Maria Island. Peter Horn 18:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Also what choice does a loving adult child have when his or her siblings either refuse or are unable to assume the role of caregiver for their parent or parents? clariosophic (talk) 12:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC) Yes, thats the whole point - welcome to the carers movement ...call us what you will - you know I had never heard of the "caregiver" word on this side of the pond either. ;-) ! funnily enough, this here fellow carer has also been editing articles on islands, see my new one strangeway - maybe carers need islands to go hide away on.... xxxx Excalibur ( talk) 01:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, got your message. I don't have personal knowledge of the Chautauqua Institution and what it is called there, as you clearly do. What i was doing was ensuring consistency between the NHL program names of sites and what appears in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes, for the New York State NHLs. I am trying to clean up all the NYS NHL articles, hoping to bring the List up for nomination to Featured List status.
There are frequently differences between the NRHP names for sites (as reported from nris by Elkman's infobox generator), vs. the NHL program names for sites (as given in individual NHL webpages linked in articles, which is usually the same as the NHL name in the NPS PDF listing of all the NHL sites, linked at bottom of List of National Historic Landmarks in New York). And often current common names for sites are different than when the NHL was declared. I have consistently gone to the NHL name for sites, for use in the NRHP infoboxes, to reflect NHL program usage, at times over-riding the NRHP name. Right now, the NHL name for the site in both NHL sources is "Chautauqua Historic District", and I think that it is fair to represent that that is the NHL name for the site, by showing it in the infobox and as an alternate name (used by some, the NHL people) in the text.
I think you have a problem with the NHL program not with me really, and I am actually sympathetic about that. I see that the "Chautauqua Institution Historic District" name was used in the NRHP registration document linked in the article. Perhaps the NHL program should have used that. I have accumulated a list of other problems with the NHL webpage and/or NHL PDF document names for sites, including some obvious typos, and am corresponding with the NPS, about their fixing/changing those. So far with some acknowledgement from them that there exist seeming typos, but with no actual changes made by them yet.
I wonder, do you want to document that Chautauqua Institution Historic District is the common name or that it should be the NHL name, for correspondence with the NPS? I would be happy to work with you on that. And, if you wanted to footnote or otherwise indicate in the text that the NHL program and/or other outsiders are using an incorrect name, that would be fine. However I would appreciate being able to keep Chautauqua Historic District listed as the NHL name for the place in the NHL/NRHP infobox. This is consistent with all other NYS NHL names in the List article and in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes of all the site articles, I believe.
By the way, the only in-line citations in the article are the NRHP docs that I put in. It seems the referencing of most of the article could be improved.
Does this help? I worry maybe i wrote too much. Sincerely, doncram ( talk) 12:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey there Clariosophic. You seem to take some interest in the Carpenter Gothic article. I am curious to your thinking on your picture editing on the article. The first image is tilted and has telephone or electric cable running through it. The third image, being brick, is stylistically related but atypical of the style. The American Gothic House is both prototypical and quintessential. I will also post this on the article Carpenter Gothic discussion page, which is probably where the discussion should unfold. Thanks. CApitol3 ( talk) 16:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- Your input is invited. :) I've gone ahead and asked for peer review on the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York list, including the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York City (hopefully to be considered by the peer reviewers as well). Open at Wikipedia:Peer review#List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. doncram ( talk) 23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks you for straightening out my mess at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Margaret%27s_Episcopal_Church_and_Cemetery_%28Hibernia%2C_Florida%29 It looks so much better now - my html skills have evaporated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HopsMaltYeast ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits to St. Barnabas Church, Upper Marlboro, Maryland. Care to participate in the peer review of the article underway? Toddst1 ( talk) 19:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear Clariosophic, This article just failed an attempt to become a Featured Article mainly because of problems in the history section. I invite you to come to this article help create a decent history so it can be resubmitted for FA. Your educated and experienced help would be much appreciated. Thanks!. NancyHeise ( talk) 00:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
You recently added a .com site which I am about to delete for two reasons. Really against WP:EL policy, but I would stretch a point for a small town (.com site = spam). The other is that I don't see what it contributes that isn't there already or soon will be. Student7 ( talk) 01:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm taking a long weekend trip in a few weeks to Pensacola and back. Any church pics you want me to try and get? That is, that aren't already NRHPs? -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The word "extra-territorial" sounds like they are outside the proper territory of the Episcopal Church, which they are not; the term is easily and likely confused with "extra-provincial" which has exactly that meaning. Perhaps the word "overseas" would be better? See http://www.anglicancommunion.org/tour/province.cfm?ID=U2 which uses exactly that term. Or at http://www.episcopalchurch.org/visitors_16976_ENG_HTM.htm?menupage=49678 we find "the United States and related dioceses outside the US". Can you find any official TEC or Anglican-Communion resources which use the term "extra-territorial" to refer to these dioceses? AFAICT that term is used only by Wikipedia in this context. Tb ( talk) 14:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast ( talk) 15:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- Got ur note about Barnwell, South Carolina works-in-sandbox. Actually, I am working through the List of National Historic Landmarks in South Carolina and note no NHLs in Barnwell County, so I guess i won't be duplicating any of those. As you know, I tend to create stubby articles with the NRHP PDF file sources, and, in South Carolina I am adding links to the very nice SC Dept of Archives and History sources. If there are any NHLs u'd like me to hold off on, let me know and i will work around them, no problem. I was going to ask if u had noticed the Graniteville Historic District article, but poof! i see that you have and that now it is Graniteville Historic District (South Carolina). Yes, after adding my note in Talk:Carpenter Gothic i read the article and was concluding these company town houses definitely qualified. Thanks for adding the pic, too. By the way, at 23 Gregg St. address there is one carpenter gothic house pictured in HABS. HABS has 7 sets of pics returned for search on "Graniteville SC". regards, doncram ( talk) 16:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- Sorry about edit conflict on Millford Plantation just now. Your edit to the NHLs of SC list attracted my attention, and i was just trying to add to the article. I replaced your edit by what i perceived to be a larger amount of edits by myself, then i went back to try to add what you had added but i erased. Hopefully i got it all, but please check and re-add if necessary. Sorry if i deleted and did not re-add anything. Thank you also for following up on other South Carolina NHL sites. As you see, I have developed at least stub articles for all of the other SC NHL sites. I am hopeful about advancing the SC NHL list to "Start" status eventually, which would mean that there was at least a stub for each NHL that it covers, but actually there is no rush. Nice to see your work on several articles. Cheerios, doncram ( talk) 02:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, Tom, You certainly are the man. Many thanks for your hard work in redoing and adding tables to this list. Best wishes. clariosophic ( talk) 21:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks also for your work on individual articles in Newton, adding coordinates, photo requests, etc. clariosophic ( talk) 21:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, you've really been busy adding tables. It's great. I've cleaned up List of Registered Historic Places in Uxbridge, Massachusetts and it's ready for a table when you have time. Many thanks. clariosophic ( talk) 13:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the French Huguenot Church merger. I might have merged to the older article, then asked an administrator to delete Huguenot Church, so the older article could be moved into its place. That way the older edit history would be with the article. Because I don't care so much about my recent edit history when creating lots of new articles, but maybe the previous writers do (although their edit history does still exist at the redirect point). And the result is good, it is a better article for having their stuff and our stuff. I just tried dividing out a new section and saying something about the architecture of the current (1845 on) church, getting rid of the "The SC DAH summary is here[1]" phrase that was still in the article. About that phrase, I have pasted it into a lot of articles as a placeholder to hold a properly formed footnote to the SC DAH summary. If you see the phrase remaining in any articles, please say something else and eliminate the phrase, which doesn't itself add to the article. When I started with the SC articles, I meant to always to add a short quote from, or state some fact from, the SC DAH summary, but it seems I often didn't get around to that.
To repeat myself, I am glad you've been contributing so much on the SC NHL articles. I would have done just a superficial job and scrambled on to another area, but I have been enjoying the cooperation with you and with Kudzuvine. I myself am working on the 5 South Carolina ship articles now, with Clagamore in good shape, Ingham coming along, and NS Savannah in the works in a sandbox somewhere. I'm wondering about putting this up for peer review sometime soon, and going for Featured List. I still don't have any featured articles or featured lists, by the way, do you? Anyhow, thanks about taking care of the church. doncram ( talk) 23:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem to fix the Infoboxes. I'm just going through all the lists to make sure the boxes are there and I like to tidy things up. Einbierbitte ( talk) 22:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I've been working on all these lists — adding images, disambiguating, and re-formatting the dates into the {{ dts2}} format so they sort in the table. Uxbridge gave me quite the problem! Seems an editor had created pages for all the Uxbridge sites, but then most of them ended up as a redirect to the list (Now I realize why you removed all those links!). As I mentioned before, each of these places is notable by default, so eventually every one should have its own article (and hopefully not just a stub). So I went ahead and reverted those back to the original [really small] articles. But now I'm thinking maybe we should just delete them. The problem is: We need to keep them linked, but we can't have them redirect to the list page. In this case, red links would be nice, because it indicates that there's work to be done. What do you think - keep the really small articles, or delete them? tiZom (2¢) 08:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for updating that; I should have done it ages ago. Before I did my Panhandle trip, I hit Gainesville and got much better photos of the Thomas Center and grounds. Gods, I love that place. :) - Ebyabe ( talk) 00:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- Thanks for adding a pic to the List of NHLs in Ohio, don't know if that was on-purpose because i was making some edits there or unrelated. I'd like to work on List of National Historic Landmarks in Virginia more instead, have started fixing that up. I'd be very pleased if you were interested in making some additions there. I will invite Kudzuvine also. I note there are HABS pics available for many Virginia NHLs, while there are few for Ohio. (Like there were lots for South Carolina, but few for New York.) Cheers, doncram ( talk) 00:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I did start to recreate the article. Hadn't gone very far before, either. Please do add. I was just creating stubs for this and for Upper Brandon Plantation, both NRHPs, as I was developing Brandon, an NHL, which should refer to them. And I had sorted out their relationships somewhat (such as that Upper was split off from the main plantation and is not the same), so I thought i should not leave red-links. Hey, I thought you were going to do more with List of NHLs in VA but we do seem to have articles for all of them created now. Kudzuvine did a lot of pics, and has gone on to George NHLs and Delaware NHLs, i am trying to keep up. :) doncram ( talk) 22:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Uploaded the photos to Commons, added one and a link to Commons to the article. Use whichever and however you think best. :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm torn:
Which way is best? As you have probably seen, I've been struggling with applying the WP:NRHP format to the NRHP lists in Massachusetts... What do you think? tiZom (2¢) 15:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, noticed your recent edits to List of Registered Historic Places in Ohio and stopped by to say that the tables look very nice. Keep up the good work and if you need any help let me know! Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I find it hard to believe that you reverted four of my edits as vandalism,. I;m working on this article to convert the individual counties to tables. It is way too long and the tables will make it longer. What I am doing is what I have done in other places is transferring counties with large numbers of listings to separate articles. This is standard practice in NRHP lists. Please undo your revert. Best wishes. clariosophic ( talk) 04:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC) clariosophic ( talk) 08:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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Oh, that make sense. Feel free to revert me. J Milburn ( talk) 15:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to Elkman's county list generator, and much help from you, the entire Florida NRHP list is now in table format. Now to fill all the photo holes (and summary sections, I guess). Wheee! :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 17:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing this. The Elkman generator created it without the Van, and I didn't notice it until later. I wasn't sure how to go about fixing it. I should have just asked for help. Thanks again! Lvklock ( talk) 21:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, the List of octagon houses is beginning to take tabular form, and i think it will look real nice. I think the Google maps connection with it is really fun, because you can see the octagonal shape of the individual buildings in satellite view mode.
I wonder, since it was just started on 15 June, about cleaning it up and nominating a DYK for it, something like: DYK "...that there are at least 23 octagonal houses built in the US before the American Civil War that survive to this day?"
Would you like to do it together? It would require creating stubs for all the NRHP octagon house articles, and editing the table to reflect their names, date built, coordinates, and so on. I have succeeded recently with getting DYKs for new list articles List of RHPs in LA and List of RHPs in Chicago, so i am pretty sure this would work, if you/we wanted to put in a quick effort over the next 2 days or so. cheers, doncram ( talk) 07:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, the list-article is in pretty good shape i believe. Can you now submit a DYK for it? We are running out of time to get it into contention. I think it would work best, in terms of ensuring joint credit, if u submitted the DYK, in the cohort of articles started on 15 June. Perhaps:
Did you know
...that the Wilcox Octagon House (pictured) and at least 58 other American octagon houses were built just before the American Civil War and survive to this day? -- new article created and co-developed by Doncram, article co-developed and DYK by Clariosophic
I think that nomination wording is meaningful, when you read the article, and meets DYK standards for support. You could submit a different version, but it is important now to get a nomination in so that it can be reviewed. Alternate DYK hooks can be suggested directly on the DYK page, too. Let me know! doncram ( talk) 23:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Yay! the DYK finally went through, and the DYK hook, with no picture though, is on the Wikipedia main page right now. The DYK administrator saw fit to directly award the DYK plaque to Lvklock, not you or me. But, indirectly then...
-- Keilana| Parlez ici 06:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The hook that appears now is, Did You Know: *... that zooming in from satellite view, one can see the outlines of Wilcox Octagon House and most of the 82 octagon houses listed on the U.S. National Register?
Hey, the octagon houses has been a fun distraction. Otherwise, I need to be working on NHL articles. I suggested at wt:NRHP to have a drive to finish starting up articles for all the remaining NHLs nation-wide, as we did for SC and VA not long ago. And then to celebrate by putting in a DYK for the overall NHL list, aiming for it to be nominated 5 days before July 4, so it could be chosen to show during Independence Day (United States). It would be great if you could check out what yet needs to be done (there's a running checklist that Lvklock is adding to), and help out Lvklock, KudzuVine, me and others who are working on this! (but first, do lets get the octagon houses DYK....) cheers, doncram ( talk) 00:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I found my way to Wikipedia:Disambiguation which includes some relevant passages. Its section on " Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Set index article" describes, perhaps, what you've had in mind with the Octagon House and Octagon Barn and so on pages. That section clarifies for me that there is indeed a need for such "set index" articles, list pages which are different than disambiguation pages, which seem like what you want to do.
Also, its section on " Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Partial title matches" reads:
Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title, or links that include the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion. Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term. Disambiguation pages are not search indices.
That passage implies to me that, say for the Octagon House (disambiguation) article, there should only be the dozen or so entries of places actually titled "Octagon House" or "The Octagon", and not the entries for places like "Feusier Octagon House". I am not about to delete Feusier or the others, but that's a difference vs. where you have been coming from with this stuff, so I am sharing these links to you, as food for thought.
Also, there is a whole MOS article, at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages).
Anyhow, knock on wood the List of octagon houses should be DYK-displayed sometime soon, although i haven't noticed any DYK editor approval of any version of the DYK hooks suggested. cheers, doncram ( talk) 15:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the interesting stuff on octagon houses - I've always found them fascinating. Sorry about my mistake in deleting the reference on the Glebe when I was fixing the link - I should have been more careful. Glad it got caught quickly. DavisGL ( talk) 05:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Carpenter Gothic churches in Florida and Category:Gothic revival churches in Florida. The later was an accident, but there's at least a couple that qualify. Anyhoo, if there's any others you think should belong, go and add. It was partly prompted by someone adding this category to a bunch of my photos. Cheers! :) - Ebyabe ( talk) 00:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#June 30 email deadline for 2008 NPS NHL photo contest. I didn't know about this contest before. You should submit a couple pics! Ten percent of submissions last year (12 / 125) were winners. doncram ( talk) 20:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
These may be outside your area of interest a bit, but they're all at UF. They are The Hub (Gainesville, Florida), Weil Hall, and Yulee Area (Gainesville, Florida). Cheers! :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
The Fourth of July, or bust, Barnstar | ||
I award you this Barnstar for your solid, witty, creative, supportive, learned, timely, cheerful, eloquent, and/or otherwise generally great contributions on U. S. National Historic Landmarks' articles. Yippee o yay,
we pretty much met our goal of a well-started article for each of
2,442 NHLs by today! Thanks, and have a great Fourth of July! -- Doncram, 4 July 2008 |
It's been my privilege to work with you, before and since, but especially for your work in List of NHLs in SC, which encouraged me immensely about the potential accomplishments when several of us work together. Thanks! doncram ( talk) 17:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I see you did Madison County's. Nice! What other ones are on your list to do? I'm sure they're on my list to get photos of, even if they're not NRHPs. How about the one for Gadsden County in Quincy? It's near the middle of the historic district there. I am planning on getting better shots of it, with the digital. I love that courthouse, and Quincy in general. Cheers. :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 22:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, i've been coming across sources about octagonal barns, but i lost track of where those are supposed to go now.
For example, http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/11024.htm which has useful fact of the number of octagonal barns in Indiana.
Especially good on history of octagonal barns (including context with respect to Fowler on houses, and the interesting reason to use polygonal barns to avoid a patent on round barns) is this Indiana MPS: http://www.in.gov/dnr/files/roundbarns.pdf. I think that mentions 32 octagonal barns, perhaps there are 32 now separately listed on the NRHP?
Were we supposed to create a List of octagonal barns or what? I think you said it should stay separate from the List of octagonal buildings and structures, which i agree with, as this is a clearly distinct category.
regards, doncram ( talk) 16:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Crossposted to both user talkpages. Y'all don't edit war now, ya hear? Talk this one over. GRBerry 01:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi! When you get a break in your busy schedule, might I convince you to get photos of the NHL above in Fort Pierce? I don't think it's that far away from you. Or perhaps someone you know might be able to. I'd love to see more of the photo holes on the List of National Historic Landmarks in Florida filled, doncha know. Oh, and nice work on the NRHP colleges and universities list. Cheers! -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Meetup/Tampa -- You're invited! Hires an editor ( talk) 13:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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Photos gotten. :) It rather reminds me of the Lightner. -- Ebyabe ( talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for working on Carnegie Library (disambiguation); it needed some clean up. But I don't understand why you deleted all of the blue links. There are several thousand Carnegie Libraries in several countries. If a reader goes to Carnegie Library, he'll read about the massive undertaking underwritten by Andrew Carnegie and the results. He'll also see "For other uses, see Carnegie library (disambiguation)." I think the DAB page could provide a list of all 2500 libraries sponsored by the program. Or we could create a List of Carnegie libraries, but I wouldn't just delete the entries. Also, I think somewhere on the DAB page should be a link to the general topic, Carnegie Library.-- Appraiser ( talk) 19:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up! this is horrible.
I posted just now to editor's Talk page, User talk:Tavix, asking him/her to stop. He/she indicates preference to respond there, so the discussion should take place there. doncram ( talk) 02:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing this. I wasn't sure where it should live, just wanted the DAB to pick it up. TravellingCari 18:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for joining. Since you know more about the island than I do, feel free to add articles to it. I did add all articles linking to the Nantucket page as well as the county and town categories. I also added the NRHP pages. Well thanks again and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 00:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello and thanks for making this article better. -- Contributingfactor ( talk) 23:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Addition of contributing property box for Baron Hirsch Synagogue- yes, that would be great. Thank you. That 1950s building was magnificent. Looking for photos of it. Don't know its current condition since it was abandoned for many years before being sold. It's now a church. Will probably be in Memphis in a couple of months and will try to photograph it and the Historic District if I can. Best wishes. -- Contributingfactor ( talk) 00:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I've edited several of the big church disambiguation pages, such as St. Paul's Episcopal Church. I wonder if you could take a look at it. I am not systematically trying to address all the church disambiguation pages, but rather i edit one when i come across an occurence from the New York State NRHPs that i am table-izing. But, I wonder if this should be a new standard.
What i did:
Note, the article includes "POWdis" template. It also included "NRHPdis" but that was recently, quietly deleted (or to be most accurate, it was converted to a redirect to "disambig"). The discussion was closed before i noticed it, although I don't think I would have objected really. So I deleted "NRHPdis", which is now unhelpful. You may want to "watch" POWdis in case the same people put that up for discussion, in order to explain how POWdis is helpful (which I am not entirely clear about, as for NRHPdis, by the way, but I don't think it hurts anything).
I'll watch here in case you want to comment here. I do think these church disambig pages are important for smooth functioning of the wikipedia for readers, and in our development of new articles. doncram ( talk) 19:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Note that does not wikilink the NRHP info. But if the NRHP article is a red-link as the following currently is, then I add a bluelink as follows:
Technically the bluelink should point to a list-article or other page that has a red-link to the same red-link, putting it in some context for a reader. I am not really checking if the link to the Muncie one appears in List of RHPs in IN or if it appears in a county sublist linked from that article. But my edits appear to comply with the wp:MOSDAB guidelines that govern and they pretty much comply with the practices and dictums of the wikiproject disambiguation members. Whew, that's plenty to say for now. Cheers, doncram ( talk) 01:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Assemblies of God. Calling good faith edits POV is not helpful. Please review WP:BRD as well. Jclemens ( talk) 18:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hey, sorry for causing edit conflict by my butting in on First Baptist Church in Newton article. I'm done there, wasn't going to do any more, though I noticed there is material that might be referenced better and the article could probably be improved in other ways (but i am not knowledgeable about it).
About church names, I think it is always okay to use the official NRHP program name (which is First Baptist Church in Newton), unless one needs to disambiguate by adding (City, State) afterwards. If a name is unique, I don't think it is necessary to add city and state. I grant that my opinion now may not be consistent with past views/edits by me that i don't recall now--sorry if i asserted a different way to you in the past. My thinking now is not necessarily perfect either, but at least it is informed by the long discussions with wikiproject disambiguation people on their Talk page and on various dab articles.
Anyhow, currently i think that only if the common name is different, should a different name be used. Isn't "First Baptist Church of Newton" the common name, too? Since it is both the NRHP name and the common name, i thought renaming to it was the obvious thing to do. I thought your edit on the First Baptist Church disambiguation was indicating that you also thought "First Baptist Church of Newton" was the appropriate name.
By the way, on disambiguation pages, one thing I have come to understand clearly is that it is always appropriate there to show the actual names of articles, and not conceal any actual name by pipelinking. doncram ( talk) 18:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The reason I'm wanting to keep "current" is that I'm wanting to have this template serve only the current county courthouses. To take your Cuyahoga County example: I assumed that the building named the Cuyahoga County Courthouse was currently the Cuyahoga County courthouse. Since you've shown me otherwise, I've changed the link and moved the template. Nyttend ( talk) 16:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The parens after an article title are generally only there to provide disambiguation from other articles. "Diocese of Pittsburgh (ECUSA)" has the problem that it refers to "ECUSA", but there is, actually, no organization which goes by that title. And since there is no Pittsburgh in Scotland, there is no hope for ambiuguity. Moreover, page moves that may be controversial are discouraged. I would like you to revert the page move please, and we can discuss (on the talk page for the article) a better name if you think we need one. Are you willing? Tb ( talk) 18:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Based on your interpretation of MOS:BOLD, bolding should be used more in the first paragraph of articles. I don't think this is a good interpretation. Have a look around Wikipedia. We use the bold sparingly especially on small articles of one or two paragraphs. It's distracting.
In such a small article items don't really get lost easily. But lets say you did have a need to emphasize something - maybe something in a really big article - then follow the advice there at MOS:BOLD and "Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text". E_dog95' Hi ' 21:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
How do you know so much about the current use? I'm local to the Stuart area and have some more photos of the mansion and other buildings. Is there a method to contact you outside of wiki, namely IM? It would be nice to see my pictures used in the article. They are from June/July 2008, the science building, the broken dock, the photography building and the boat construction building (all of them, hehe). I'd hate to add them and have people remove them to get orphaned. -- x1987x( talk) 18:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, Seeing as you're the editor who did all the work on Category:Carnegie libraries in the United States and its sub-cats, I thought you'd like to know that I just finished adding the "missing" parent cats by putting the head category into Category:Public libraries in the United States and each of the sub-cats into its respective state level public libraries category. I do a lot of work improving the category structure, and I find that in almost all cases there are at least two "natural parent categories", although it's easy to forget that when you're focussed on the more obvious one. Anyway, with a second parent cat, readers are twice as likely to find their way to these categories. Best, Cgingold ( talk) 00:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. I see that you are involved with Registered Historic Places. Do you know if the aforementioned is or isn't one? -- brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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Do you really think this is necessary? Are you quite familiar with the Church of the Nazarene? Let's talk! Aepoutre ( talk) 17:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that you had an interest in the St. Andrew's Episcopal photo that I uploaded earlier, so I went ahead and uploaded a couple more to Wikimedia Commons that may be of interest to you: [[Image:Lowdnesborostpauls.jpg]] & [[Image:StJohnsForkland.jpg]]. I believe that both are based on Upjohn designs, but neither have an article as of yet. They are both in [[Category:Churches in Alabama]] at Commons. Cheers. Altairisfar talk 22:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the Waldwic article. I guess that now I'll have to dig out those photos! I have boxes and boxes of prints (I never got around to albums). When I locate them I'll upload and let you know. And I also wanted to let you know that I've enjoyed exploring your userpages, very interesting! Cheers. Altairisfar talk 22:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you classify them as islands or settlements? The former uses the bracket convention and the latter the comma (except for New Zealand). Local usage would appear to be immatereal. In some cases there is both an island an a community by the same name. Toss a coin... Peter Horn 18:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Anna Maria Island (Florida) would be more apropreate because there are three settlements or communities on one island. The island naming convention would override the local usage, or is Florida going to be another exception along with New Zealand??? Peter Horn 18:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Eureka!!! Anna Maria Island, Three (3) cities on one (1) island!! Anna Maria, Florida, the city on the north end of Anna Maria Island. Peter Horn 18:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Also what choice does a loving adult child have when his or her siblings either refuse or are unable to assume the role of caregiver for their parent or parents? clariosophic (talk) 12:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC) Yes, thats the whole point - welcome to the carers movement ...call us what you will - you know I had never heard of the "caregiver" word on this side of the pond either. ;-) ! funnily enough, this here fellow carer has also been editing articles on islands, see my new one strangeway - maybe carers need islands to go hide away on.... xxxx Excalibur ( talk) 01:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, got your message. I don't have personal knowledge of the Chautauqua Institution and what it is called there, as you clearly do. What i was doing was ensuring consistency between the NHL program names of sites and what appears in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes, for the New York State NHLs. I am trying to clean up all the NYS NHL articles, hoping to bring the List up for nomination to Featured List status.
There are frequently differences between the NRHP names for sites (as reported from nris by Elkman's infobox generator), vs. the NHL program names for sites (as given in individual NHL webpages linked in articles, which is usually the same as the NHL name in the NPS PDF listing of all the NHL sites, linked at bottom of List of National Historic Landmarks in New York). And often current common names for sites are different than when the NHL was declared. I have consistently gone to the NHL name for sites, for use in the NRHP infoboxes, to reflect NHL program usage, at times over-riding the NRHP name. Right now, the NHL name for the site in both NHL sources is "Chautauqua Historic District", and I think that it is fair to represent that that is the NHL name for the site, by showing it in the infobox and as an alternate name (used by some, the NHL people) in the text.
I think you have a problem with the NHL program not with me really, and I am actually sympathetic about that. I see that the "Chautauqua Institution Historic District" name was used in the NRHP registration document linked in the article. Perhaps the NHL program should have used that. I have accumulated a list of other problems with the NHL webpage and/or NHL PDF document names for sites, including some obvious typos, and am corresponding with the NPS, about their fixing/changing those. So far with some acknowledgement from them that there exist seeming typos, but with no actual changes made by them yet.
I wonder, do you want to document that Chautauqua Institution Historic District is the common name or that it should be the NHL name, for correspondence with the NPS? I would be happy to work with you on that. And, if you wanted to footnote or otherwise indicate in the text that the NHL program and/or other outsiders are using an incorrect name, that would be fine. However I would appreciate being able to keep Chautauqua Historic District listed as the NHL name for the place in the NHL/NRHP infobox. This is consistent with all other NYS NHL names in the List article and in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes of all the site articles, I believe.
By the way, the only in-line citations in the article are the NRHP docs that I put in. It seems the referencing of most of the article could be improved.
Does this help? I worry maybe i wrote too much. Sincerely, doncram ( talk) 12:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey there Clariosophic. You seem to take some interest in the Carpenter Gothic article. I am curious to your thinking on your picture editing on the article. The first image is tilted and has telephone or electric cable running through it. The third image, being brick, is stylistically related but atypical of the style. The American Gothic House is both prototypical and quintessential. I will also post this on the article Carpenter Gothic discussion page, which is probably where the discussion should unfold. Thanks. CApitol3 ( talk) 16:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- Your input is invited. :) I've gone ahead and asked for peer review on the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York list, including the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York City (hopefully to be considered by the peer reviewers as well). Open at Wikipedia:Peer review#List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. doncram ( talk) 23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks you for straightening out my mess at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Margaret%27s_Episcopal_Church_and_Cemetery_%28Hibernia%2C_Florida%29 It looks so much better now - my html skills have evaporated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HopsMaltYeast ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits to St. Barnabas Church, Upper Marlboro, Maryland. Care to participate in the peer review of the article underway? Toddst1 ( talk) 19:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear Clariosophic, This article just failed an attempt to become a Featured Article mainly because of problems in the history section. I invite you to come to this article help create a decent history so it can be resubmitted for FA. Your educated and experienced help would be much appreciated. Thanks!. NancyHeise ( talk) 00:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
You recently added a .com site which I am about to delete for two reasons. Really against WP:EL policy, but I would stretch a point for a small town (.com site = spam). The other is that I don't see what it contributes that isn't there already or soon will be. Student7 ( talk) 01:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm taking a long weekend trip in a few weeks to Pensacola and back. Any church pics you want me to try and get? That is, that aren't already NRHPs? -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The word "extra-territorial" sounds like they are outside the proper territory of the Episcopal Church, which they are not; the term is easily and likely confused with "extra-provincial" which has exactly that meaning. Perhaps the word "overseas" would be better? See http://www.anglicancommunion.org/tour/province.cfm?ID=U2 which uses exactly that term. Or at http://www.episcopalchurch.org/visitors_16976_ENG_HTM.htm?menupage=49678 we find "the United States and related dioceses outside the US". Can you find any official TEC or Anglican-Communion resources which use the term "extra-territorial" to refer to these dioceses? AFAICT that term is used only by Wikipedia in this context. Tb ( talk) 14:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast ( talk) 15:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- Got ur note about Barnwell, South Carolina works-in-sandbox. Actually, I am working through the List of National Historic Landmarks in South Carolina and note no NHLs in Barnwell County, so I guess i won't be duplicating any of those. As you know, I tend to create stubby articles with the NRHP PDF file sources, and, in South Carolina I am adding links to the very nice SC Dept of Archives and History sources. If there are any NHLs u'd like me to hold off on, let me know and i will work around them, no problem. I was going to ask if u had noticed the Graniteville Historic District article, but poof! i see that you have and that now it is Graniteville Historic District (South Carolina). Yes, after adding my note in Talk:Carpenter Gothic i read the article and was concluding these company town houses definitely qualified. Thanks for adding the pic, too. By the way, at 23 Gregg St. address there is one carpenter gothic house pictured in HABS. HABS has 7 sets of pics returned for search on "Graniteville SC". regards, doncram ( talk) 16:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- Sorry about edit conflict on Millford Plantation just now. Your edit to the NHLs of SC list attracted my attention, and i was just trying to add to the article. I replaced your edit by what i perceived to be a larger amount of edits by myself, then i went back to try to add what you had added but i erased. Hopefully i got it all, but please check and re-add if necessary. Sorry if i deleted and did not re-add anything. Thank you also for following up on other South Carolina NHL sites. As you see, I have developed at least stub articles for all of the other SC NHL sites. I am hopeful about advancing the SC NHL list to "Start" status eventually, which would mean that there was at least a stub for each NHL that it covers, but actually there is no rush. Nice to see your work on several articles. Cheerios, doncram ( talk) 02:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, Tom, You certainly are the man. Many thanks for your hard work in redoing and adding tables to this list. Best wishes. clariosophic ( talk) 21:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks also for your work on individual articles in Newton, adding coordinates, photo requests, etc. clariosophic ( talk) 21:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, you've really been busy adding tables. It's great. I've cleaned up List of Registered Historic Places in Uxbridge, Massachusetts and it's ready for a table when you have time. Many thanks. clariosophic ( talk) 13:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the French Huguenot Church merger. I might have merged to the older article, then asked an administrator to delete Huguenot Church, so the older article could be moved into its place. That way the older edit history would be with the article. Because I don't care so much about my recent edit history when creating lots of new articles, but maybe the previous writers do (although their edit history does still exist at the redirect point). And the result is good, it is a better article for having their stuff and our stuff. I just tried dividing out a new section and saying something about the architecture of the current (1845 on) church, getting rid of the "The SC DAH summary is here[1]" phrase that was still in the article. About that phrase, I have pasted it into a lot of articles as a placeholder to hold a properly formed footnote to the SC DAH summary. If you see the phrase remaining in any articles, please say something else and eliminate the phrase, which doesn't itself add to the article. When I started with the SC articles, I meant to always to add a short quote from, or state some fact from, the SC DAH summary, but it seems I often didn't get around to that.
To repeat myself, I am glad you've been contributing so much on the SC NHL articles. I would have done just a superficial job and scrambled on to another area, but I have been enjoying the cooperation with you and with Kudzuvine. I myself am working on the 5 South Carolina ship articles now, with Clagamore in good shape, Ingham coming along, and NS Savannah in the works in a sandbox somewhere. I'm wondering about putting this up for peer review sometime soon, and going for Featured List. I still don't have any featured articles or featured lists, by the way, do you? Anyhow, thanks about taking care of the church. doncram ( talk) 23:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem to fix the Infoboxes. I'm just going through all the lists to make sure the boxes are there and I like to tidy things up. Einbierbitte ( talk) 22:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I've been working on all these lists — adding images, disambiguating, and re-formatting the dates into the {{ dts2}} format so they sort in the table. Uxbridge gave me quite the problem! Seems an editor had created pages for all the Uxbridge sites, but then most of them ended up as a redirect to the list (Now I realize why you removed all those links!). As I mentioned before, each of these places is notable by default, so eventually every one should have its own article (and hopefully not just a stub). So I went ahead and reverted those back to the original [really small] articles. But now I'm thinking maybe we should just delete them. The problem is: We need to keep them linked, but we can't have them redirect to the list page. In this case, red links would be nice, because it indicates that there's work to be done. What do you think - keep the really small articles, or delete them? tiZom (2¢) 08:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for updating that; I should have done it ages ago. Before I did my Panhandle trip, I hit Gainesville and got much better photos of the Thomas Center and grounds. Gods, I love that place. :) - Ebyabe ( talk) 00:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- Thanks for adding a pic to the List of NHLs in Ohio, don't know if that was on-purpose because i was making some edits there or unrelated. I'd like to work on List of National Historic Landmarks in Virginia more instead, have started fixing that up. I'd be very pleased if you were interested in making some additions there. I will invite Kudzuvine also. I note there are HABS pics available for many Virginia NHLs, while there are few for Ohio. (Like there were lots for South Carolina, but few for New York.) Cheers, doncram ( talk) 00:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I did start to recreate the article. Hadn't gone very far before, either. Please do add. I was just creating stubs for this and for Upper Brandon Plantation, both NRHPs, as I was developing Brandon, an NHL, which should refer to them. And I had sorted out their relationships somewhat (such as that Upper was split off from the main plantation and is not the same), so I thought i should not leave red-links. Hey, I thought you were going to do more with List of NHLs in VA but we do seem to have articles for all of them created now. Kudzuvine did a lot of pics, and has gone on to George NHLs and Delaware NHLs, i am trying to keep up. :) doncram ( talk) 22:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Uploaded the photos to Commons, added one and a link to Commons to the article. Use whichever and however you think best. :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm torn:
Which way is best? As you have probably seen, I've been struggling with applying the WP:NRHP format to the NRHP lists in Massachusetts... What do you think? tiZom (2¢) 15:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, noticed your recent edits to List of Registered Historic Places in Ohio and stopped by to say that the tables look very nice. Keep up the good work and if you need any help let me know! Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I find it hard to believe that you reverted four of my edits as vandalism,. I;m working on this article to convert the individual counties to tables. It is way too long and the tables will make it longer. What I am doing is what I have done in other places is transferring counties with large numbers of listings to separate articles. This is standard practice in NRHP lists. Please undo your revert. Best wishes. clariosophic ( talk) 04:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC) clariosophic ( talk) 08:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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Oh, that make sense. Feel free to revert me. J Milburn ( talk) 15:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to Elkman's county list generator, and much help from you, the entire Florida NRHP list is now in table format. Now to fill all the photo holes (and summary sections, I guess). Wheee! :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 17:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, when moving pages could you please check the article talk pages for WikiProject tags and fix them. i.e. remove them from the old page or set class to redirect and readd them to the new articles. This helps keep from having incorrect article tags. Thanks for your contributions. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I just moved the all caps title back to the lower cased title and just wanted to let you know. Generally, on Wikipedia, you will want to go with the most commonly used name, rather than any "official" nomenclature. In addition, you probably don't want to use all caps in any instance per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) and various other guidelines and policies. Not that I care all that much myself but I thought I would let you know to save you any future headaches. Happy editing. IvoShandor ( talk) 23:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing this. The Elkman generator created it without the Van, and I didn't notice it until later. I wasn't sure how to go about fixing it. I should have just asked for help. Thanks again! Lvklock ( talk) 21:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, the List of octagon houses is beginning to take tabular form, and i think it will look real nice. I think the Google maps connection with it is really fun, because you can see the octagonal shape of the individual buildings in satellite view mode.
I wonder, since it was just started on 15 June, about cleaning it up and nominating a DYK for it, something like: DYK "...that there are at least 23 octagonal houses built in the US before the American Civil War that survive to this day?"
Would you like to do it together? It would require creating stubs for all the NRHP octagon house articles, and editing the table to reflect their names, date built, coordinates, and so on. I have succeeded recently with getting DYKs for new list articles List of RHPs in LA and List of RHPs in Chicago, so i am pretty sure this would work, if you/we wanted to put in a quick effort over the next 2 days or so. cheers, doncram ( talk) 07:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, the list-article is in pretty good shape i believe. Can you now submit a DYK for it? We are running out of time to get it into contention. I think it would work best, in terms of ensuring joint credit, if u submitted the DYK, in the cohort of articles started on 15 June. Perhaps:
Did you know
...that the Wilcox Octagon House (pictured) and at least 58 other American octagon houses were built just before the American Civil War and survive to this day? -- new article created and co-developed by Doncram, article co-developed and DYK by Clariosophic
I think that nomination wording is meaningful, when you read the article, and meets DYK standards for support. You could submit a different version, but it is important now to get a nomination in so that it can be reviewed. Alternate DYK hooks can be suggested directly on the DYK page, too. Let me know! doncram ( talk) 23:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Yay! the DYK finally went through, and the DYK hook, with no picture though, is on the Wikipedia main page right now. The DYK administrator saw fit to directly award the DYK plaque to Lvklock, not you or me. But, indirectly then...
-- Keilana| Parlez ici 06:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The hook that appears now is, Did You Know: *... that zooming in from satellite view, one can see the outlines of Wilcox Octagon House and most of the 82 octagon houses listed on the U.S. National Register?
Hey, the octagon houses has been a fun distraction. Otherwise, I need to be working on NHL articles. I suggested at wt:NRHP to have a drive to finish starting up articles for all the remaining NHLs nation-wide, as we did for SC and VA not long ago. And then to celebrate by putting in a DYK for the overall NHL list, aiming for it to be nominated 5 days before July 4, so it could be chosen to show during Independence Day (United States). It would be great if you could check out what yet needs to be done (there's a running checklist that Lvklock is adding to), and help out Lvklock, KudzuVine, me and others who are working on this! (but first, do lets get the octagon houses DYK....) cheers, doncram ( talk) 00:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I found my way to Wikipedia:Disambiguation which includes some relevant passages. Its section on " Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Set index article" describes, perhaps, what you've had in mind with the Octagon House and Octagon Barn and so on pages. That section clarifies for me that there is indeed a need for such "set index" articles, list pages which are different than disambiguation pages, which seem like what you want to do.
Also, its section on " Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Partial title matches" reads:
Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title, or links that include the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion. Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term. Disambiguation pages are not search indices.
That passage implies to me that, say for the Octagon House (disambiguation) article, there should only be the dozen or so entries of places actually titled "Octagon House" or "The Octagon", and not the entries for places like "Feusier Octagon House". I am not about to delete Feusier or the others, but that's a difference vs. where you have been coming from with this stuff, so I am sharing these links to you, as food for thought.
Also, there is a whole MOS article, at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages).
Anyhow, knock on wood the List of octagon houses should be DYK-displayed sometime soon, although i haven't noticed any DYK editor approval of any version of the DYK hooks suggested. cheers, doncram ( talk) 15:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the interesting stuff on octagon houses - I've always found them fascinating. Sorry about my mistake in deleting the reference on the Glebe when I was fixing the link - I should have been more careful. Glad it got caught quickly. DavisGL ( talk) 05:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Carpenter Gothic churches in Florida and Category:Gothic revival churches in Florida. The later was an accident, but there's at least a couple that qualify. Anyhoo, if there's any others you think should belong, go and add. It was partly prompted by someone adding this category to a bunch of my photos. Cheers! :) - Ebyabe ( talk) 00:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Clariosophic -- See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#June 30 email deadline for 2008 NPS NHL photo contest. I didn't know about this contest before. You should submit a couple pics! Ten percent of submissions last year (12 / 125) were winners. doncram ( talk) 20:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
These may be outside your area of interest a bit, but they're all at UF. They are The Hub (Gainesville, Florida), Weil Hall, and Yulee Area (Gainesville, Florida). Cheers! :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
The Fourth of July, or bust, Barnstar | ||
I award you this Barnstar for your solid, witty, creative, supportive, learned, timely, cheerful, eloquent, and/or otherwise generally great contributions on U. S. National Historic Landmarks' articles. Yippee o yay,
we pretty much met our goal of a well-started article for each of
2,442 NHLs by today! Thanks, and have a great Fourth of July! -- Doncram, 4 July 2008 |
It's been my privilege to work with you, before and since, but especially for your work in List of NHLs in SC, which encouraged me immensely about the potential accomplishments when several of us work together. Thanks! doncram ( talk) 17:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I see you did Madison County's. Nice! What other ones are on your list to do? I'm sure they're on my list to get photos of, even if they're not NRHPs. How about the one for Gadsden County in Quincy? It's near the middle of the historic district there. I am planning on getting better shots of it, with the digital. I love that courthouse, and Quincy in general. Cheers. :) -- Ebyabe ( talk) 22:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, i've been coming across sources about octagonal barns, but i lost track of where those are supposed to go now.
For example, http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/11024.htm which has useful fact of the number of octagonal barns in Indiana.
Especially good on history of octagonal barns (including context with respect to Fowler on houses, and the interesting reason to use polygonal barns to avoid a patent on round barns) is this Indiana MPS: http://www.in.gov/dnr/files/roundbarns.pdf. I think that mentions 32 octagonal barns, perhaps there are 32 now separately listed on the NRHP?
Were we supposed to create a List of octagonal barns or what? I think you said it should stay separate from the List of octagonal buildings and structures, which i agree with, as this is a clearly distinct category.
regards, doncram ( talk) 16:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Crossposted to both user talkpages. Y'all don't edit war now, ya hear? Talk this one over. GRBerry 01:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi! When you get a break in your busy schedule, might I convince you to get photos of the NHL above in Fort Pierce? I don't think it's that far away from you. Or perhaps someone you know might be able to. I'd love to see more of the photo holes on the List of National Historic Landmarks in Florida filled, doncha know. Oh, and nice work on the NRHP colleges and universities list. Cheers! -- Ebyabe ( talk) 00:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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I have seen your edits around Wikipedia and I feel like you would be a great addition to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Emergency medicine and EMS task force. We can always use more editors to help with improvement of EMS and emergency medicine related articles! |
Photos gotten. :) It rather reminds me of the Lightner. -- Ebyabe ( talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for working on Carnegie Library (disambiguation); it needed some clean up. But I don't understand why you deleted all of the blue links. There are several thousand Carnegie Libraries in several countries. If a reader goes to Carnegie Library, he'll read about the massive undertaking underwritten by Andrew Carnegie and the results. He'll also see "For other uses, see Carnegie library (disambiguation)." I think the DAB page could provide a list of all 2500 libraries sponsored by the program. Or we could create a List of Carnegie libraries, but I wouldn't just delete the entries. Also, I think somewhere on the DAB page should be a link to the general topic, Carnegie Library.-- Appraiser ( talk) 19:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up! this is horrible.
I posted just now to editor's Talk page, User talk:Tavix, asking him/her to stop. He/she indicates preference to respond there, so the discussion should take place there. doncram ( talk) 02:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing this. I wasn't sure where it should live, just wanted the DAB to pick it up. TravellingCari 18:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for joining. Since you know more about the island than I do, feel free to add articles to it. I did add all articles linking to the Nantucket page as well as the county and town categories. I also added the NRHP pages. Well thanks again and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 00:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello and thanks for making this article better. -- Contributingfactor ( talk) 23:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Addition of contributing property box for Baron Hirsch Synagogue- yes, that would be great. Thank you. That 1950s building was magnificent. Looking for photos of it. Don't know its current condition since it was abandoned for many years before being sold. It's now a church. Will probably be in Memphis in a couple of months and will try to photograph it and the Historic District if I can. Best wishes. -- Contributingfactor ( talk) 00:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. Since you are the only Wikipedian whom I know to be Christian and trustworthy, could you please look at this edit? It seems to me that the deleted content is true, adequately sourced, and relevant. Do you agree with the statements? I believe the deletion may be an attempt to "cleanse" the article of negative connotations. If you agree, perhaps you know of an unbiased source in a Christian context that might say the same thing. Thanks.-- Appraiser ( talk) 19:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've edited several of the big church disambiguation pages, such as St. Paul's Episcopal Church. I wonder if you could take a look at it. I am not systematically trying to address all the church disambiguation pages, but rather i edit one when i come across an occurence from the New York State NRHPs that i am table-izing. But, I wonder if this should be a new standard.
What i did:
Note, the article includes "POWdis" template. It also included "NRHPdis" but that was recently, quietly deleted (or to be most accurate, it was converted to a redirect to "disambig"). The discussion was closed before i noticed it, although I don't think I would have objected really. So I deleted "NRHPdis", which is now unhelpful. You may want to "watch" POWdis in case the same people put that up for discussion, in order to explain how POWdis is helpful (which I am not entirely clear about, as for NRHPdis, by the way, but I don't think it hurts anything).
I'll watch here in case you want to comment here. I do think these church disambig pages are important for smooth functioning of the wikipedia for readers, and in our development of new articles. doncram ( talk) 19:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Note that does not wikilink the NRHP info. But if the NRHP article is a red-link as the following currently is, then I add a bluelink as follows:
Technically the bluelink should point to a list-article or other page that has a red-link to the same red-link, putting it in some context for a reader. I am not really checking if the link to the Muncie one appears in List of RHPs in IN or if it appears in a county sublist linked from that article. But my edits appear to comply with the wp:MOSDAB guidelines that govern and they pretty much comply with the practices and dictums of the wikiproject disambiguation members. Whew, that's plenty to say for now. Cheers, doncram ( talk) 01:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Assemblies of God. Calling good faith edits POV is not helpful. Please review WP:BRD as well. Jclemens ( talk) 18:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
St. Paul's Reformed Church, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/St. Paul's Reformed Church and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of St. Paul's Reformed Church during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. — Remember the dot ( talk) 00:37, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, sorry for causing edit conflict by my butting in on First Baptist Church in Newton article. I'm done there, wasn't going to do any more, though I noticed there is material that might be referenced better and the article could probably be improved in other ways (but i am not knowledgeable about it).
About church names, I think it is always okay to use the official NRHP program name (which is First Baptist Church in Newton), unless one needs to disambiguate by adding (City, State) afterwards. If a name is unique, I don't think it is necessary to add city and state. I grant that my opinion now may not be consistent with past views/edits by me that i don't recall now--sorry if i asserted a different way to you in the past. My thinking now is not necessarily perfect either, but at least it is informed by the long discussions with wikiproject disambiguation people on their Talk page and on various dab articles.
Anyhow, currently i think that only if the common name is different, should a different name be used. Isn't "First Baptist Church of Newton" the common name, too? Since it is both the NRHP name and the common name, i thought renaming to it was the obvious thing to do. I thought your edit on the First Baptist Church disambiguation was indicating that you also thought "First Baptist Church of Newton" was the appropriate name.
By the way, on disambiguation pages, one thing I have come to understand clearly is that it is always appropriate there to show the actual names of articles, and not conceal any actual name by pipelinking. doncram ( talk) 18:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The reason I'm wanting to keep "current" is that I'm wanting to have this template serve only the current county courthouses. To take your Cuyahoga County example: I assumed that the building named the Cuyahoga County Courthouse was currently the Cuyahoga County courthouse. Since you've shown me otherwise, I've changed the link and moved the template. Nyttend ( talk) 16:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The parens after an article title are generally only there to provide disambiguation from other articles. "Diocese of Pittsburgh (ECUSA)" has the problem that it refers to "ECUSA", but there is, actually, no organization which goes by that title. And since there is no Pittsburgh in Scotland, there is no hope for ambiuguity. Moreover, page moves that may be controversial are discouraged. I would like you to revert the page move please, and we can discuss (on the talk page for the article) a better name if you think we need one. Are you willing? Tb ( talk) 18:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Based on your interpretation of MOS:BOLD, bolding should be used more in the first paragraph of articles. I don't think this is a good interpretation. Have a look around Wikipedia. We use the bold sparingly especially on small articles of one or two paragraphs. It's distracting.
In such a small article items don't really get lost easily. But lets say you did have a need to emphasize something - maybe something in a really big article - then follow the advice there at MOS:BOLD and "Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text". E_dog95' Hi ' 21:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
How do you know so much about the current use? I'm local to the Stuart area and have some more photos of the mansion and other buildings. Is there a method to contact you outside of wiki, namely IM? It would be nice to see my pictures used in the article. They are from June/July 2008, the science building, the broken dock, the photography building and the boat construction building (all of them, hehe). I'd hate to add them and have people remove them to get orphaned. -- x1987x( talk) 18:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, Seeing as you're the editor who did all the work on Category:Carnegie libraries in the United States and its sub-cats, I thought you'd like to know that I just finished adding the "missing" parent cats by putting the head category into Category:Public libraries in the United States and each of the sub-cats into its respective state level public libraries category. I do a lot of work improving the category structure, and I find that in almost all cases there are at least two "natural parent categories", although it's easy to forget that when you're focussed on the more obvious one. Anyway, with a second parent cat, readers are twice as likely to find their way to these categories. Best, Cgingold ( talk) 00:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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