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I could e-mail you the questions, or we could make a special page on wiki for the questions. Ikip 23:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems that the history of the page is split in two places, that above (which you've just changed to a redirect) and Wikipedia:Article Incubator:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires. I'd recommend asking an admin to merge the page histories. That way, when the article is eventually moved back into main space the history shouldn't be too jumbled. I'd do it myself, but I've not merged page histories before and now isn't the time to start experimenting. Nev1 ( talk) 16:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
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Somehow the fact that Tenmei was banned and now needs a mentor does not surprise me. I've never met anyone who could rant so incessantly about the same topic for hours on end. He could write a book with all the space he used! Lol.
As for Comparisons between Rome and Han, I like the current suggestion that the article should be about the modern academic study of the comparison between these two civilizations. I've made that clear on the incubator talk page. Speaking of Rome and Han, I've recently set my sights on rewriting the article for the Parthian Empire, truly the key player between Han and Rome. You can take a look at the notes I've started to compile at User:PericlesofAthens/Sandbox Parthian Empire. To me it seems very strange that the existing contemporary sources for the subsequent Sassanid Empire are so much richer and abundant than those of the Parthian era. Much of Parthian history has been preserved via external sources, such as through Greek (i.e. Seleucid), Roman (including Greek Romans), and Chinese historians (mostly Sima Qian's descriptions of the diplomatic exchanges between Han and Parthia). It's a damn good thing the Parthians minted a different coin for each king (complete with a raised, Greek-style bust), otherwise the chronological succession of each ruler would be hazy at best.
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Hi, been long time since last time talking to you, how is your study? Please have a look at this, might be interesting:
http://club.kdnet.net/newbbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=1&star=9&replyid=5817667&id=3002628&skin=0&page=1
文章提交者:monachus 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net
汉语的缺陷 及给中国文化的影响早有定论,为民族自尊的原因而只在学术界小范围内讨论。
1 语言,语法不精确,导致 不能建 立有清晰内涵和外延界定的抽象概念。 而概念的缺乏直接干扰中国文化逻辑学的产生。自然也就没有逻辑思维了。
2 象形文字没有进一步转为字母化的符号体系。缺乏丰富的符号体系来表征抽象概念,符号工具的缺乏使得中国古代数学家已经非常接近微积分,而最终无法创造微积 分的原因, 符号对概念的抽象替代-“算符”。也是现代量子力学的基石。
3 长期接触图像化的象形文字,使中国人的大脑长于形象思维, 弱于抽象思维。长于艺术,文学,人际关系,弱于自然科学,法律。
文章提交者:monachus 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net
符号不仅可以代表概念,还可以代表概念之间由逻辑关系而形成的一个相对固定的结合体,量子力学中的算符就起这种功能
丰富的符号体系造就现 代科学。
象形文字的汉字让中国人无法形成符号体系。
另外, 音形不联系的汉字难学难记, 没有三年艰苦的学习难以读书看报,中国的文盲数量比例非常高。
而表音体系能说即能读, 儿童可以更早的接触文字信息,智力开发也更早。
汉 字难学 ,使得儿童接触同样数量的文字信息比表音文字教育体系下的儿童有1-2年的迟滞,而这1-2年的迟滞对智力发育带来的危害非常大。 Arilang talk 06:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
归纳与推演都是近代科学中不可缺少的思维方法。为说明此点让我们看一下Maxwell(1831-1879)创建Maxwell方程的历史。Maxwell是十九世纪最伟大的物理学家,他在十九世纪中叶写了3篇论文,奠定了电磁波的准确结构,从而改变了人类的历史。二十世纪所发展出来的无线电、电视、网络通讯等等,统统都基于Maxwell方程式。 Maxwell's equations
- 第一,《易经》影响了中华文化中的思维方式,而这个影响是近代科学没有在中国萌芽的重要原因之一,这也是我之所以对于《易经》发生兴趣的原因。
- 第二,《易经》是汉语成为单音语言的原因之一。
- 第三,《易经》影响了中华文化的审美观念。
Well, without ABC and 12345, there is no way the Chinese could ever develope the all important equations. Same as the Newton's law, and the E=MC(square) Arilang talk 20:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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Please have a look Chinese Characters and the Greek Alphabet Eric A. Havelock Vassar College may be this really is the reason why Chinese is so backward on science? Arilang talk 08:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
http://literaturesotherlanguages.blogspot.com/2010/01/prejudice-against-pidgin.html
"Going even further with respect to the situation in northern China, Hashimoto Mantaro theorized that during the Qing (Manchu) dynasty (1644-1911), the language of the capital was not Chinese but rather a pidgin made up of Manchu and Chinese elements, as well as a few elements from Mongolian and other minor languages. Furthermore, he suggested that modern Beijing dialect was a descendant of that pidgin. Though this theory is impressionistically persuasive, the major obstacle in accepting it is the lack of solid empirical evidence.
Teen, if the above theory holds, that mean the nowadays Mandarin is in fact part Manchu part Chinese, that could only means, culturally speaking, as long as we are speaking Mandarin, we are part of Manchu! Isn't it a bit frightening? Arilang talk 22:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
李白 月下獨酌 中古漢語朗讀 Arilang talk 22:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Please have a look and give some comments: User:Arilang1234/Comparison between written English and written Chinese Draft Arilang talk 06:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
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Please stop trying to include the external link to your own pamphlet and try to respect the ongoing discussion/vote. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 14:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Teen. Yeah, I've pretty much been active due to my latest project on Parthian Empire. You may want to check that out; there's some information on Chinese trade relations, and of course what the early Chinese histories have to say about Persian and Near Eastern civilization contemporaneous with the Han Dynasty. But of course, there's a lot more information on the Roman Empire and Kingdom of Armenia! I'm hoping it will become a featured article.
As for the article you are concerned about, I'll take a look. However, I actually don't own Temple (1986), which I borrowed from my university library ages ago for List of Chinese inventions. I have a few books in my personal library which might be useful. I'm at work right now, so I can't do anything at the moment. In fact, I should go, since I shouldn't even be at Wikipedia right now! Lol. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 20:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Remove the tags for the third time without prior discussion, and I am going to toy with the idea of reporting you to Wikipedia:ANI. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 23:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Why are you deleting sourced material? It is just a few quotes. Unless you come up with something to replace it that isn't full of grammar errors, I will keep the article as it is. Discuss your changes on talk page. Teeninvestor ( talk) 20:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
It´s the word of the World bank!! Not some bad facts from som magazines! My changes is sourced! Look at the source and read it, you´ll se!
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Hi, I think this video is very good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDCbLPmEufc&feature=related Arilang talk 05:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks! Parthian Empire certainly looks good, although you were right to point out the lack of economic information. However, for reasons beyond my control, there is a systemic lack of primary source materials for Parthian history which would allow me to describe Parthian economics in any sort of detail.
As for Economy of the Han Dynasty, could you point out the specific sentence which says this about Eastern Han? I can't seem to find it. You quote the words "heavily taxed" but this phrase does not appear anywhere in the article. Once you point out the relevant sentence, I can perhaps share a quote or two from the cited source and we can discuss it if you like. Sound fun? Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 05:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
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Really? I was completely unaware of this. If correct, it would certainly help to explain more than just the lack of coal-powered machinery concurrent with Europe's industrial revolution. Timothy Brook, in his Confusions of Pleasure (1998), talks about sporadic Ming-era restrictions on silver mining (which never lasted very long). However, I am largely ignorant about Chinese government restrictions imposed on mining any type of resource during the Qing, let alone any other dynasty. Can you guide me to the source where you discovered this? I'd love to know more about this.
And about our earlier conversation where you asked about the Eastern Han imposing heavier taxes on merchants to make up for the loss of its salt and iron monopolies, look to page 609 in Patricia Ebrey's "The Economic and Social History of Later Han" Cambridge History of China (1986). Property taxes were also raised in Eastern Han to compensate government revenues after the reduction of the land tax for peasant farmers (Nishijima 1986: 596–598). It was a step in the right direction to remove the burdensome monopolies and restore private control. However, as with all governments which seek to maintain their own self-sustaining power, the Eastern Han administration found raising certain taxes to be sufficient (until the obvious occurred during Huan and Ling's reign periods).-- Pericles of Athens Talk 02:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Teen, this statement "even going as far as to prohibit mining ", looks like it is a wrong statement, I am afraid. In all the past dynasty, "mining" was never ever being "prohibited", and that include the Qing dynasty, because without mining, there shall be no copper for the coins, no iron for the swords and ploughs, no salt for cooking. "Restriction" on private sector's involvement of mining, yes, to prevent private merchants from getting rich, and hence out of control. Arilang talk 12:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
PoA, before 1911, 仕農工商, 仕= Bureaucrats, 農=farmers, 工= craft-men, 商=merchants, Merchants were always at the bottom of any imperial dynasty, because the emperor would not like to see a rich and powerful merchant class to challenge the Imperial Court. This is the main reason why Capitalism had never been able to form in ancient China. Arilang talk 07:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Reference 41 isn't working. And please be careful when editing articles. References should go after punctuation, and in this edit you removed sourced information without providing an explanation, presumably by mistake. Nev1 ( talk) 22:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I've just noticed that in the bibliography section you've given the publication date of The Cambridge History of China: Volume 9 as both 2002 and 2003. Which is correct? Nev1 ( talk) 15:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Could you please explain the basis of this edit? I reverted it as it seems a bit POV. Nev1 ( talk) 01:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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I am literally walking out my door right now to meet a friend. I can talk about these articles later, as well as Qing mining. Arilang does bring up a good point though about the prohibitions on new private mining projects as opposed to government-run mining operations to extract metal ores.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 23:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Would you like to help me wth China railway articles? Reply on my talk page. Thanks! TEK ( talk • e-mail) 03:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be a pleasure to copyedit the article for you and convert the references to Harvard format. As to the pictures, I make no promises there about my ability to find freely licensed and appropriate ones, but I will try after copyediting it. かんぱい! Scapler ( talk) 18:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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A good ref work is Janet Abu-Lughod's BEH book (which I need to stub...). It is a major argument in the world-system theory. While it argues for the existence of the world-systems before the "long 16th century", it also nicely describes how the shift in world-systems (putting Europe ahead of the other regions) occurred around that time. I agree with what you write about Middle East and Japan, but I would like to see the ME section created and stating that (JAL supports it); as for Japan, I would like it expanded more (in fact, if you could recommend a source on Japanese trade and cultural contacts with other lands in that era, I'd love to read it - apparently my knowledge of that subject is lacking). Btw, I feel that such discussion should in its entirety take part on the article's discussion page. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I see you made a request at WP:FEED a long time ago, but have continued to be active on Wikipedia and made good edits to the encyclopedia. Since you have posted on WP:FEED in the past, I would like to suggest that if you want please try and help out at the page, as we have a massive backlog. It'd be really great if you provided some advice to other, new users on their articles.
To do this, you'll just need to take a look at their article, which they'll post the link to, and maybe see what perhaps can be improved, like adding sections, references or links, much like you would do with any other article, except you are giving feedback rather than making actual edits. After getting some idea of what needs to be improved, you just need to tell them briefly underneath. It's really simple but incredibly useful to new users and their articles, and helps to overall increase the quality of these new articles.
I hope you will at least consider. Please send me a message if you have any further questions, or if you would like further information. Thanks a lot! Chevy monte carlo 14:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I can already tell that this will become very useful. I am busy and can't add any content to it at the moment, but I will review my notes and see if I can make some small contributions. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 03:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Teeninvestor, you requested me to convert the references in above article to 'harvnb' format. Unfortunately, I'm unfamiliar with this format (I normally use 'cite' format), and I don't really have the time to convert it properly. I'd prefer working on a stored copy, but there are ongoing issues with the article that would make this impractical. So I'll have to leave it alone, but I'd be happy to return when these issues are settled and the article is stable. Thanks and happy editing, Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 21:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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I was hoping to interview at least two editors for the next Article Rescue Squadron newsletter.
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After the incredible and inspiring result of Comparison between Roman and Han Empires, and all the work you put into it, would you be interested in being interviewed?
I could e-mail you the questions, or we could make a special page on wiki for the questions. Ikip 23:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems that the history of the page is split in two places, that above (which you've just changed to a redirect) and Wikipedia:Article Incubator:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires. I'd recommend asking an admin to merge the page histories. That way, when the article is eventually moved back into main space the history shouldn't be too jumbled. I'd do it myself, but I've not merged page histories before and now isn't the time to start experimenting. Nev1 ( talk) 16:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
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Here are the first initial questions:
I am trying to find a veteran editor too interview also, so there maybe two interviews in this newsletter.
There will be follow up questions and more controversial (interesting) questions soon.
Ikip 20:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
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It shows how the Qing tried to improve gunpowder weapons as well, though it inevitably lagged behind.
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Please have a look and add content: War of Internet Addiction Arilang talk 00:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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好久不见. :)
Somehow the fact that Tenmei was banned and now needs a mentor does not surprise me. I've never met anyone who could rant so incessantly about the same topic for hours on end. He could write a book with all the space he used! Lol.
As for Comparisons between Rome and Han, I like the current suggestion that the article should be about the modern academic study of the comparison between these two civilizations. I've made that clear on the incubator talk page. Speaking of Rome and Han, I've recently set my sights on rewriting the article for the Parthian Empire, truly the key player between Han and Rome. You can take a look at the notes I've started to compile at User:PericlesofAthens/Sandbox Parthian Empire. To me it seems very strange that the existing contemporary sources for the subsequent Sassanid Empire are so much richer and abundant than those of the Parthian era. Much of Parthian history has been preserved via external sources, such as through Greek (i.e. Seleucid), Roman (including Greek Romans), and Chinese historians (mostly Sima Qian's descriptions of the diplomatic exchanges between Han and Parthia). It's a damn good thing the Parthians minted a different coin for each king (complete with a raised, Greek-style bust), otherwise the chronological succession of each ruler would be hazy at best.
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Hi, been long time since last time talking to you, how is your study? Please have a look at this, might be interesting:
http://club.kdnet.net/newbbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=1&star=9&replyid=5817667&id=3002628&skin=0&page=1
文章提交者:monachus 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net
汉语的缺陷 及给中国文化的影响早有定论,为民族自尊的原因而只在学术界小范围内讨论。
1 语言,语法不精确,导致 不能建 立有清晰内涵和外延界定的抽象概念。 而概念的缺乏直接干扰中国文化逻辑学的产生。自然也就没有逻辑思维了。
2 象形文字没有进一步转为字母化的符号体系。缺乏丰富的符号体系来表征抽象概念,符号工具的缺乏使得中国古代数学家已经非常接近微积分,而最终无法创造微积 分的原因, 符号对概念的抽象替代-“算符”。也是现代量子力学的基石。
3 长期接触图像化的象形文字,使中国人的大脑长于形象思维, 弱于抽象思维。长于艺术,文学,人际关系,弱于自然科学,法律。
文章提交者:monachus 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net
符号不仅可以代表概念,还可以代表概念之间由逻辑关系而形成的一个相对固定的结合体,量子力学中的算符就起这种功能
丰富的符号体系造就现 代科学。
象形文字的汉字让中国人无法形成符号体系。
另外, 音形不联系的汉字难学难记, 没有三年艰苦的学习难以读书看报,中国的文盲数量比例非常高。
而表音体系能说即能读, 儿童可以更早的接触文字信息,智力开发也更早。
汉 字难学 ,使得儿童接触同样数量的文字信息比表音文字教育体系下的儿童有1-2年的迟滞,而这1-2年的迟滞对智力发育带来的危害非常大。 Arilang talk 06:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
归纳与推演都是近代科学中不可缺少的思维方法。为说明此点让我们看一下Maxwell(1831-1879)创建Maxwell方程的历史。Maxwell是十九世纪最伟大的物理学家,他在十九世纪中叶写了3篇论文,奠定了电磁波的准确结构,从而改变了人类的历史。二十世纪所发展出来的无线电、电视、网络通讯等等,统统都基于Maxwell方程式。 Maxwell's equations
- 第一,《易经》影响了中华文化中的思维方式,而这个影响是近代科学没有在中国萌芽的重要原因之一,这也是我之所以对于《易经》发生兴趣的原因。
- 第二,《易经》是汉语成为单音语言的原因之一。
- 第三,《易经》影响了中华文化的审美观念。
Well, without ABC and 12345, there is no way the Chinese could ever develope the all important equations. Same as the Newton's law, and the E=MC(square) Arilang talk 20:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, it's been a long time since we've met at the debate over the Ming and Qing dynasties last year. I see that you're the creator of Qin's wars of unification and I've expanded the article over the past few days by adding translated information from Chinese sources. Please take a look and see if you've any ideas on how to promote it to A-Class or GA status. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks. _ LDS ( talk) 08:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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Please have a look Chinese Characters and the Greek Alphabet Eric A. Havelock Vassar College may be this really is the reason why Chinese is so backward on science? Arilang talk 08:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
http://literaturesotherlanguages.blogspot.com/2010/01/prejudice-against-pidgin.html
"Going even further with respect to the situation in northern China, Hashimoto Mantaro theorized that during the Qing (Manchu) dynasty (1644-1911), the language of the capital was not Chinese but rather a pidgin made up of Manchu and Chinese elements, as well as a few elements from Mongolian and other minor languages. Furthermore, he suggested that modern Beijing dialect was a descendant of that pidgin. Though this theory is impressionistically persuasive, the major obstacle in accepting it is the lack of solid empirical evidence.
Teen, if the above theory holds, that mean the nowadays Mandarin is in fact part Manchu part Chinese, that could only means, culturally speaking, as long as we are speaking Mandarin, we are part of Manchu! Isn't it a bit frightening? Arilang talk 22:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
李白 月下獨酌 中古漢語朗讀 Arilang talk 22:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Please have a look and give some comments: User:Arilang1234/Comparison between written English and written Chinese Draft Arilang talk 06:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
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Please stop trying to include the external link to your own pamphlet and try to respect the ongoing discussion/vote. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 14:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Teen. Yeah, I've pretty much been active due to my latest project on Parthian Empire. You may want to check that out; there's some information on Chinese trade relations, and of course what the early Chinese histories have to say about Persian and Near Eastern civilization contemporaneous with the Han Dynasty. But of course, there's a lot more information on the Roman Empire and Kingdom of Armenia! I'm hoping it will become a featured article.
As for the article you are concerned about, I'll take a look. However, I actually don't own Temple (1986), which I borrowed from my university library ages ago for List of Chinese inventions. I have a few books in my personal library which might be useful. I'm at work right now, so I can't do anything at the moment. In fact, I should go, since I shouldn't even be at Wikipedia right now! Lol. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 20:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Remove the tags for the third time without prior discussion, and I am going to toy with the idea of reporting you to Wikipedia:ANI. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 23:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Why are you deleting sourced material? It is just a few quotes. Unless you come up with something to replace it that isn't full of grammar errors, I will keep the article as it is. Discuss your changes on talk page. Teeninvestor ( talk) 20:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
It´s the word of the World bank!! Not some bad facts from som magazines! My changes is sourced! Look at the source and read it, you´ll se!
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Hi, I think this video is very good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDCbLPmEufc&feature=related Arilang talk 05:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
http://v.ifeng.com/his/200903/e924cdee-18aa-4ede-9493-f6e012d15ddc.shtml#f55799f6-3ded-49bc-981d-794e682a16ff
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Thanks! Parthian Empire certainly looks good, although you were right to point out the lack of economic information. However, for reasons beyond my control, there is a systemic lack of primary source materials for Parthian history which would allow me to describe Parthian economics in any sort of detail.
As for Economy of the Han Dynasty, could you point out the specific sentence which says this about Eastern Han? I can't seem to find it. You quote the words "heavily taxed" but this phrase does not appear anywhere in the article. Once you point out the relevant sentence, I can perhaps share a quote or two from the cited source and we can discuss it if you like. Sound fun? Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 05:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
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Really? I was completely unaware of this. If correct, it would certainly help to explain more than just the lack of coal-powered machinery concurrent with Europe's industrial revolution. Timothy Brook, in his Confusions of Pleasure (1998), talks about sporadic Ming-era restrictions on silver mining (which never lasted very long). However, I am largely ignorant about Chinese government restrictions imposed on mining any type of resource during the Qing, let alone any other dynasty. Can you guide me to the source where you discovered this? I'd love to know more about this.
And about our earlier conversation where you asked about the Eastern Han imposing heavier taxes on merchants to make up for the loss of its salt and iron monopolies, look to page 609 in Patricia Ebrey's "The Economic and Social History of Later Han" Cambridge History of China (1986). Property taxes were also raised in Eastern Han to compensate government revenues after the reduction of the land tax for peasant farmers (Nishijima 1986: 596–598). It was a step in the right direction to remove the burdensome monopolies and restore private control. However, as with all governments which seek to maintain their own self-sustaining power, the Eastern Han administration found raising certain taxes to be sufficient (until the obvious occurred during Huan and Ling's reign periods).-- Pericles of Athens Talk 02:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Teen, this statement "even going as far as to prohibit mining ", looks like it is a wrong statement, I am afraid. In all the past dynasty, "mining" was never ever being "prohibited", and that include the Qing dynasty, because without mining, there shall be no copper for the coins, no iron for the swords and ploughs, no salt for cooking. "Restriction" on private sector's involvement of mining, yes, to prevent private merchants from getting rich, and hence out of control. Arilang talk 12:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
PoA, before 1911, 仕農工商, 仕= Bureaucrats, 農=farmers, 工= craft-men, 商=merchants, Merchants were always at the bottom of any imperial dynasty, because the emperor would not like to see a rich and powerful merchant class to challenge the Imperial Court. This is the main reason why Capitalism had never been able to form in ancient China. Arilang talk 07:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Reference 41 isn't working. And please be careful when editing articles. References should go after punctuation, and in this edit you removed sourced information without providing an explanation, presumably by mistake. Nev1 ( talk) 22:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I've just noticed that in the bibliography section you've given the publication date of The Cambridge History of China: Volume 9 as both 2002 and 2003. Which is correct? Nev1 ( talk) 15:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Could you please explain the basis of this edit? I reverted it as it seems a bit POV. Nev1 ( talk) 01:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Please do not remove dispute tags before the dispute is resolved. Kanguole 20:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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I am literally walking out my door right now to meet a friend. I can talk about these articles later, as well as Qing mining. Arilang does bring up a good point though about the prohibitions on new private mining projects as opposed to government-run mining operations to extract metal ores.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 23:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Would you like to help me wth China railway articles? Reply on my talk page. Thanks! TEK ( talk • e-mail) 03:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be a pleasure to copyedit the article for you and convert the references to Harvard format. As to the pictures, I make no promises there about my ability to find freely licensed and appropriate ones, but I will try after copyediting it. かんぱい! Scapler ( talk) 18:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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to put in some supportive comments, please. Arilang talk 12:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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A good ref work is Janet Abu-Lughod's BEH book (which I need to stub...). It is a major argument in the world-system theory. While it argues for the existence of the world-systems before the "long 16th century", it also nicely describes how the shift in world-systems (putting Europe ahead of the other regions) occurred around that time. I agree with what you write about Middle East and Japan, but I would like to see the ME section created and stating that (JAL supports it); as for Japan, I would like it expanded more (in fact, if you could recommend a source on Japanese trade and cultural contacts with other lands in that era, I'd love to read it - apparently my knowledge of that subject is lacking). Btw, I feel that such discussion should in its entirety take part on the article's discussion page. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I see you made a request at WP:FEED a long time ago, but have continued to be active on Wikipedia and made good edits to the encyclopedia. Since you have posted on WP:FEED in the past, I would like to suggest that if you want please try and help out at the page, as we have a massive backlog. It'd be really great if you provided some advice to other, new users on their articles.
To do this, you'll just need to take a look at their article, which they'll post the link to, and maybe see what perhaps can be improved, like adding sections, references or links, much like you would do with any other article, except you are giving feedback rather than making actual edits. After getting some idea of what needs to be improved, you just need to tell them briefly underneath. It's really simple but incredibly useful to new users and their articles, and helps to overall increase the quality of these new articles.
I hope you will at least consider. Please send me a message if you have any further questions, or if you would like further information. Thanks a lot! Chevy monte carlo 14:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I can already tell that this will become very useful. I am busy and can't add any content to it at the moment, but I will review my notes and see if I can make some small contributions. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 03:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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Please do not engage in revert wars. You have yet to discuss your edit, when 3 editors have indicated disagreement with you. BigK HeX ( talk) 17:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Teeninvestor, you requested me to convert the references in above article to 'harvnb' format. Unfortunately, I'm unfamiliar with this format (I normally use 'cite' format), and I don't really have the time to convert it properly. I'd prefer working on a stored copy, but there are ongoing issues with the article that would make this impractical. So I'll have to leave it alone, but I'd be happy to return when these issues are settled and the article is stable. Thanks and happy editing, Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 21:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)