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I'm having some trouble adding the image to the side. When I do this the header doesn't have a colspan attribute and doesn't extend to the width of the template.— Noetic Sage 19:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
The V D E links are now smack in the middle of the title. I couldn't fix it, but I do know you can't mix float and absolute. — Edokter • Talk • 13:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be nice to have a parameter that automatically expands all of the groups. For example, on the main page for each template (ie University of Michigan for {{ University of Michigan}}), I would like to be able to see all of the links in the template. Perhaps a better way to do this is automatically expand all groups unless a parameter is specified to only expand one.
Another suggestion, going on the trend of navbox consolidation, is to merge this completely with {{ Navbox}}. Although a lot of extra coding would be required, it would be convenient for editors to simply add a parameter to switch between groups in rows and groups that are collapsible. -- scottalter 06:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there a way to set the table to default to completely collapsed? Or some way the state can be controlled on the individual pages it's placed on? It's obviously *possible* to collapse the whole thing down to just the title bar, as this can be done manually by clicking on "hide". That's the state I want it to start in.
I ask because someone just implemented this code on Template:Celtic mythology topics. Even with the sub-sections collapsed, it's a bear. It's visually overwhelming on some of the articles it's on. The previous version was even more overwhelming, but at least it could be collapsed down completely. Help? - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦ ♫ 03:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
On templates with dark title background colors, it is hard to see the show/hide links... any way to change this? see {{ University of Michigan}} ~ Paul C/ T + 05:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
On {{ Navbox}}, bodystyle defaults to white, on this one it defaults to what looks like f7f7f7. Can a "bodystyle" parameter be added so I can make it white on {{ Dasyuromorphia}}? -- Tombstone ( talk) 23:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that, using the "state" parameter, more than one section can be set to expand? For example, on {{ Time Persons of the Year}}, Eisenhower appears in two sections (1927-1950 [1944] & 1951-1975 [1959]), so on his article, the template should default to showing 2 groups. Is this possible? If so, please provide the code. If not, can the template be updated? Rgrds. -- Tombstone ( talk) 08:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Can somebody help with the Template:Citroën timeline. Do not understand how to make it work (like it does in ru-wiki for example ru:Шаблон:Автомобили Citroën) -- Rockfan by 15:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
<span>
and </span>
around the tables
chan
dler
·
15:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)I use the template to sort names with a group for every letter of the alphabet ... so could someone please expand the number of groups to 26 ? Many thanks
Hopefully that does all you need. Let me know if you have any questions. --
CapitalR (
talk)
11:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Could the width of the groups be reduced slighty, please (but still keep them centered)? When I see this template in use, it's difficult to tell the main titlebar from the group titlebars, especially when one of the groups is already shown. Otherwise, it's a neat template. 212.84.120.221 ( talk) 03:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I've noticed the name "Navbox with collapsible sections" is redirected to this temnplate. Could, therefore, the label "section" (as in "section1", "section2", etc) be made an alternative to "group" ("group1", "group2", etc) please? A fair number of -- maybe many -- instances of this template include groups within groups etc, so the means to label its own groups as sections might reduce the chances of confusion. Thank you. 212.84.120.221 ( talk) 09:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey,
Over at E-Wrestling Encyclopedia and I am making making a navbox collapsed template and it shows the groups that are collapsed. Did I do something wrong? Sundogs Wikia UserPage | Roller Derby Wiki 00:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
edit: I also like to have a section to show up (code is #ifexist) and will this make the previous post behaving badly? Sundogs Wikia UserPage | Roller Derby Wiki 00:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
In Template:Cultural Properties of Japan, I would like to get rid of "[show]" in the last line as there is nothing to expand. If I use, "state=off" the center alignment is broken (apparently because the row is wider without the "[show]"). How do I properly get rid of the "[show]"? bamse ( talk) 22:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
This text is in
Group/list parameters:
> Usually this parameter [selected] should be set to {{{1|}}}.
That doesn't make sense. Template parameters should be designed in whatever way makes using the template convenient, and that usually means that unnamed parameters are used for information specific to that template. Generic parameters like selected should be named. —
Codrdan (
talk)
20:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I am struggling to understand the abbr and selected parameters. Please can someone who understands them rewrite that part of the documentation for bears like me of very little brain? Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
groupn
. It is used by the selected
parameter to indicate which group will be visible (uncollapsed) when the table first appears. See the selected
section below for details. abbrn
is optional but recommended; only groups with abbreviations can be selected to be visible by default.selected
determines which group will be visible (uncollapsed) when the table is first displayed. If its value is the abbreviation of a group (abbrn
), then listn
will be visible by default, with all other lists collapsed. If selected
is left blank, or if it does not match any abbrn
, then all groups are collapsed. Any template that transcludes this template must pass selected
from the article to this one, for instance with a parameter of the same name:
{{Navbox with collapsible groups
|selected = {{{selected|}}}
...
selected
when calling your template in the article to tell Navbox with collapsible groups
which group to display. —
Codrdan (
talk)
14:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)selected
appears once and is set to {{{selected|}}} in the template. At the foot of the article the navbox is entirely collapsed. Since the words in the abbrev are Child sexual Roman Catholic
and the article title does not include all of those words I assume it to be correct that the group is not expanded.abbrev
to be matched to the article title (but not necessarily the complete title) and thus the group uncollapsed. Do I have that right?selected
parameter when I place the template! Its that simple, isn;t it? There is no automatic stuff at all, is there?
Fiddle Faddle (
talk)
16:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Please can somebody with the requisite skills mirror the code from {{
Navbox}}, for |bodyclass=
, and |titleclass=
? Here's the
documentation.
Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing);
Andy's talk;
Andy's edits
11:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. How do you set this template to show all its groups, not just one via "selected"? Thanks. 212.84.121.75 ( talk) 06:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! 212.84.121.75 ( talk) 22:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Can someone check the {{{list1style|}}} elements of Groups 10 and 11 surely these should be {{{list10style|}}} and {{{list11style|}}}
Regards :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 18:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
The request is to replace the template's code with the version currently in the sandbox (
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Navbox_with_collapsible_groups/sandbox&oldid=402683010). I will update the documentation page accordingly.
The amended code completes the "section" ("sect") approach to the template by adding the parameters sectionN, sectNtitlestyle, contentN, contentstyle and contentNstyle. They are all optional, i.e. transparent if not used.
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Could this get extended past 11? 117Avenue ( talk) 03:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Please extend this to 20, like Template:Navbox, by syncing with the sandbox. Thanks, 117Avenue ( talk) 02:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
This template claims that it is autocollapse by default, but it is not. This template uses navboxes to create the collapsible groups, and the wiki detects these as other navboxes on the page, and collapses the whole navbox on any page. Is there any way to rectify this? 117Avenue ( talk) 04:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. In article Foley Square trial I have a footer navbox: Template:US1stAmendment. The default layout of that navobx is expanded (showing five sub groups .. each of those is collapsed) which is a bit large for my taste. My goal is to have it appear as a single line (just the topmost "1st amendment" line). I tried setting "state=collapsed" but that makes no change. Any suggestions? -- Noleander ( talk) 02:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
For example, with Template:Sixth Amendment, Reynolds v. United States interpreted both the jury clause and confrontation clause. Savidan 06:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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please update the template to use this version of the sandbox. this adds support for left-aligned group labels. in the current code, if you try to left-align the group labels, you get
the new code adds a |groupnavbar=
parameter, which can be set to off to remove the left-padding on the group labels
navbar1 - navbar20
parameters as well, ohterwise, one would not be able to override individual groups as it is with all other parameters. —
Edokter (
talk) —
19:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Please forgive me if this is a dumb question, so bear with me. When I connect with a dial-up connection, I frequently turn off javascript on Firefox to increase page-load time. When I do this, some functions of Wikipedia are disabled. One of those functions is the show/hide function. On navbox templates, all templates display uncollapsed and the "hide" function is not offered -- this makes all navboxes load in the expanded state and can completely overrun a small article. About a year ago I saw an editor removing many navboxes with an edit summary saying they were much to big for such small articles; I have come to the conclusion that maybe they did not have javascript enabled. Here is my question: Is it possible to have some code recognize that a user's javascript is disabled and, if so, in really tiny letters above the navbox appears the text "javascipt is required for the this template to render properly"? Actually, I guess my question is if there is a consensus add such code. I hope this isn't a dumb question, and I would appreciate feedback. Rgrds. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) -- 64.85.214.177 ( talk) 13:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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In the media section, Movies, link to film Selma, a recent page. Thanks. I was one of the editors who made quite a few edits to the King template.
Randy Kryn ( talk) 02:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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On the Martin Luther King template, under "Media" "Films and Television", please add The Meeting. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 11:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
{{
Navbox with collapsible groups}}
. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. This is probably
Template talk:Martin Luther King. --
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12:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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Add Eurasian Economic Union to Eurasia section. Whizz40 ( talk) 13:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be a bug which is leading here when editing templates, examples are Editing Template:International power, and Martin Luther King above.
There change to the international power template has been made.
Whizz40 ( talk) 13:57, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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Someone (not me) noticed that the space between "External links" and the first navbox on any article page is way too tight. So they tried addingadded a blank line to increase the spacing. (It worked, though I always thought it should not work because extra white space is not supposed to count.Extra blank lines count, even though extra spaces do not.) It worked, so they left a comment asking us not to remove the (normally pointless and/or incorrect) extra blank line. I humored the request by expanding it into a full explanation of the problem, with possible solutions. Obviously it would be best to fix all affected pages with one edit at the highest level, rather than have random edits that correct or improve the formatting one page at a time, on thousands of article pages, depending on who notices it. Quoting the comments from the page "
Desvenlafaxine":
It seems reasonable to fix. I it hard to fix? A876 ( talk) 22:47, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
And there it is.
A876 (
talk)
23:54, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
23:55, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
00:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)@Technical 13: Thanks for the screenshot. Yes I see what you see, and I see a (minor) problem. (And I'm not the only one. Someone goes around jamming in extra linebreaks page-by-page to tweak it away.) I'll try to make a screenshot with more context to show the problem - that the final micro-spacing clashes with the established macro-spacing. (Yes I know micro-spacing is the sacred hallowed blessed almighty worshipped Status Quo. I might make up a blind-choice pair so that people are forced to pick which layout is more preferable WITHOUT knowing which one is the status quo. Even your own unprejudiced selection might surprise you.) A876 ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
@Edokter: Thanks for good points (and for addressing the issue)! I'm not code-ready, though I could try wading through the snarl in case it turns out to be simple. [However, the one time dared to I edit a Sacred Template (sandboxed, tested, rolled out), someone reverted it saying "BRD" - which is absolutely not a valid explanation - and then did not put anything on the Talk page. The same editor undid someone else's edit saying approximately "I don't trust you". (There's always someone eager to disparage, discourage, destroy good will.) So I see why some master templates are protected, to prevent futility.] Indeed, the tight spacing "is quite normal", but that's what I'm objecting to - it makes the navboxes seem part of the last section (often "External links"). "Adding an extra linebreak ... is not established practice" - but people are resorting to it thinking they are helping, which started me up. Correct, "extra linebreak [in] the template" is far too crude. Yup, it sounds a job for CSS - "space before" and "space after" that can be set various ways like minimum spacings that don't sum (don't ask me the details). But the problem is you'd have to make the chain of navboxes look like its own section, so that only ONE section spacing is added before them. (One might also consider taking the spacing-before each section and splitting it between spacing-before and spacing-after. Thus spacing -between- sections would remain the same, spacing before the first section would shrink (fixable by editing something else), and spacing after the last section would grow (as desired) - an old word processing trick. But something would have to detect the ENDing of the very last section to trigger its spacing-after. (Or maybe MediWiki's page model keeps things simple by not allowing spacing-after in any form.) Finally, your postscript was pure advocacy - "There already is some CSS in place ... to put ... space between a list and a navbox; it is set to 0.5em". Is that the ticket? I'll have to find a way to sandbox a change that template, and/or take apart a page's HTML and CSS to see if increasing the number has the desired effect (and no undesirable effects). Maybe I can locally patch the CSS. Recent browsers have tools for playing with those things... :) I'll be back when my irk wears off some (and after a sleep). A876 ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
ol + table.navbox,
ul + table.navbox {
margin-top: 1em; /* Prevent lists from clinging to navboxes */
}
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
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Archive 1 |
I'm having some trouble adding the image to the side. When I do this the header doesn't have a colspan attribute and doesn't extend to the width of the template.— Noetic Sage 19:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
The V D E links are now smack in the middle of the title. I couldn't fix it, but I do know you can't mix float and absolute. — Edokter • Talk • 13:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be nice to have a parameter that automatically expands all of the groups. For example, on the main page for each template (ie University of Michigan for {{ University of Michigan}}), I would like to be able to see all of the links in the template. Perhaps a better way to do this is automatically expand all groups unless a parameter is specified to only expand one.
Another suggestion, going on the trend of navbox consolidation, is to merge this completely with {{ Navbox}}. Although a lot of extra coding would be required, it would be convenient for editors to simply add a parameter to switch between groups in rows and groups that are collapsible. -- scottalter 06:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there a way to set the table to default to completely collapsed? Or some way the state can be controlled on the individual pages it's placed on? It's obviously *possible* to collapse the whole thing down to just the title bar, as this can be done manually by clicking on "hide". That's the state I want it to start in.
I ask because someone just implemented this code on Template:Celtic mythology topics. Even with the sub-sections collapsed, it's a bear. It's visually overwhelming on some of the articles it's on. The previous version was even more overwhelming, but at least it could be collapsed down completely. Help? - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦ ♫ 03:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
On templates with dark title background colors, it is hard to see the show/hide links... any way to change this? see {{ University of Michigan}} ~ Paul C/ T + 05:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
On {{ Navbox}}, bodystyle defaults to white, on this one it defaults to what looks like f7f7f7. Can a "bodystyle" parameter be added so I can make it white on {{ Dasyuromorphia}}? -- Tombstone ( talk) 23:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that, using the "state" parameter, more than one section can be set to expand? For example, on {{ Time Persons of the Year}}, Eisenhower appears in two sections (1927-1950 [1944] & 1951-1975 [1959]), so on his article, the template should default to showing 2 groups. Is this possible? If so, please provide the code. If not, can the template be updated? Rgrds. -- Tombstone ( talk) 08:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Can somebody help with the Template:Citroën timeline. Do not understand how to make it work (like it does in ru-wiki for example ru:Шаблон:Автомобили Citroën) -- Rockfan by 15:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
<span>
and </span>
around the tables
chan
dler
·
15:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)I use the template to sort names with a group for every letter of the alphabet ... so could someone please expand the number of groups to 26 ? Many thanks
Hopefully that does all you need. Let me know if you have any questions. --
CapitalR (
talk)
11:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Could the width of the groups be reduced slighty, please (but still keep them centered)? When I see this template in use, it's difficult to tell the main titlebar from the group titlebars, especially when one of the groups is already shown. Otherwise, it's a neat template. 212.84.120.221 ( talk) 03:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I've noticed the name "Navbox with collapsible sections" is redirected to this temnplate. Could, therefore, the label "section" (as in "section1", "section2", etc) be made an alternative to "group" ("group1", "group2", etc) please? A fair number of -- maybe many -- instances of this template include groups within groups etc, so the means to label its own groups as sections might reduce the chances of confusion. Thank you. 212.84.120.221 ( talk) 09:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey,
Over at E-Wrestling Encyclopedia and I am making making a navbox collapsed template and it shows the groups that are collapsed. Did I do something wrong? Sundogs Wikia UserPage | Roller Derby Wiki 00:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
edit: I also like to have a section to show up (code is #ifexist) and will this make the previous post behaving badly? Sundogs Wikia UserPage | Roller Derby Wiki 00:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
In Template:Cultural Properties of Japan, I would like to get rid of "[show]" in the last line as there is nothing to expand. If I use, "state=off" the center alignment is broken (apparently because the row is wider without the "[show]"). How do I properly get rid of the "[show]"? bamse ( talk) 22:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
This text is in
Group/list parameters:
> Usually this parameter [selected] should be set to {{{1|}}}.
That doesn't make sense. Template parameters should be designed in whatever way makes using the template convenient, and that usually means that unnamed parameters are used for information specific to that template. Generic parameters like selected should be named. —
Codrdan (
talk)
20:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I am struggling to understand the abbr and selected parameters. Please can someone who understands them rewrite that part of the documentation for bears like me of very little brain? Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
groupn
. It is used by the selected
parameter to indicate which group will be visible (uncollapsed) when the table first appears. See the selected
section below for details. abbrn
is optional but recommended; only groups with abbreviations can be selected to be visible by default.selected
determines which group will be visible (uncollapsed) when the table is first displayed. If its value is the abbreviation of a group (abbrn
), then listn
will be visible by default, with all other lists collapsed. If selected
is left blank, or if it does not match any abbrn
, then all groups are collapsed. Any template that transcludes this template must pass selected
from the article to this one, for instance with a parameter of the same name:
{{Navbox with collapsible groups
|selected = {{{selected|}}}
...
selected
when calling your template in the article to tell Navbox with collapsible groups
which group to display. —
Codrdan (
talk)
14:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)selected
appears once and is set to {{{selected|}}} in the template. At the foot of the article the navbox is entirely collapsed. Since the words in the abbrev are Child sexual Roman Catholic
and the article title does not include all of those words I assume it to be correct that the group is not expanded.abbrev
to be matched to the article title (but not necessarily the complete title) and thus the group uncollapsed. Do I have that right?selected
parameter when I place the template! Its that simple, isn;t it? There is no automatic stuff at all, is there?
Fiddle Faddle (
talk)
16:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Please can somebody with the requisite skills mirror the code from {{
Navbox}}, for |bodyclass=
, and |titleclass=
? Here's the
documentation.
Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing);
Andy's talk;
Andy's edits
11:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. How do you set this template to show all its groups, not just one via "selected"? Thanks. 212.84.121.75 ( talk) 06:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! 212.84.121.75 ( talk) 22:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Can someone check the {{{list1style|}}} elements of Groups 10 and 11 surely these should be {{{list10style|}}} and {{{list11style|}}}
Regards :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 18:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
{{
edit protected}}
The request is to replace the template's code with the version currently in the sandbox (
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Navbox_with_collapsible_groups/sandbox&oldid=402683010). I will update the documentation page accordingly.
The amended code completes the "section" ("sect") approach to the template by adding the parameters sectionN, sectNtitlestyle, contentN, contentstyle and contentNstyle. They are all optional, i.e. transparent if not used.
213.246.83.86 ( talk) 12:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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Could this get extended past 11? 117Avenue ( talk) 03:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Please extend this to 20, like Template:Navbox, by syncing with the sandbox. Thanks, 117Avenue ( talk) 02:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
This template claims that it is autocollapse by default, but it is not. This template uses navboxes to create the collapsible groups, and the wiki detects these as other navboxes on the page, and collapses the whole navbox on any page. Is there any way to rectify this? 117Avenue ( talk) 04:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. In article Foley Square trial I have a footer navbox: Template:US1stAmendment. The default layout of that navobx is expanded (showing five sub groups .. each of those is collapsed) which is a bit large for my taste. My goal is to have it appear as a single line (just the topmost "1st amendment" line). I tried setting "state=collapsed" but that makes no change. Any suggestions? -- Noleander ( talk) 02:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
For example, with Template:Sixth Amendment, Reynolds v. United States interpreted both the jury clause and confrontation clause. Savidan 06:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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please update the template to use this version of the sandbox. this adds support for left-aligned group labels. in the current code, if you try to left-align the group labels, you get
the new code adds a |groupnavbar=
parameter, which can be set to off to remove the left-padding on the group labels
navbar1 - navbar20
parameters as well, ohterwise, one would not be able to override individual groups as it is with all other parameters. —
Edokter (
talk) —
19:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Please forgive me if this is a dumb question, so bear with me. When I connect with a dial-up connection, I frequently turn off javascript on Firefox to increase page-load time. When I do this, some functions of Wikipedia are disabled. One of those functions is the show/hide function. On navbox templates, all templates display uncollapsed and the "hide" function is not offered -- this makes all navboxes load in the expanded state and can completely overrun a small article. About a year ago I saw an editor removing many navboxes with an edit summary saying they were much to big for such small articles; I have come to the conclusion that maybe they did not have javascript enabled. Here is my question: Is it possible to have some code recognize that a user's javascript is disabled and, if so, in really tiny letters above the navbox appears the text "javascipt is required for the this template to render properly"? Actually, I guess my question is if there is a consensus add such code. I hope this isn't a dumb question, and I would appreciate feedback. Rgrds. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) -- 64.85.214.177 ( talk) 13:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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In the media section, Movies, link to film Selma, a recent page. Thanks. I was one of the editors who made quite a few edits to the King template.
Randy Kryn ( talk) 02:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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On the Martin Luther King template, under "Media" "Films and Television", please add The Meeting. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 11:26, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
{{
Navbox with collapsible groups}}
. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. This is probably
Template talk:Martin Luther King. --
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talk)
12:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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Add Eurasian Economic Union to Eurasia section. Whizz40 ( talk) 13:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be a bug which is leading here when editing templates, examples are Editing Template:International power, and Martin Luther King above.
There change to the international power template has been made.
Whizz40 ( talk) 13:57, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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Someone (not me) noticed that the space between "External links" and the first navbox on any article page is way too tight. So they tried addingadded a blank line to increase the spacing. (It worked, though I always thought it should not work because extra white space is not supposed to count.Extra blank lines count, even though extra spaces do not.) It worked, so they left a comment asking us not to remove the (normally pointless and/or incorrect) extra blank line. I humored the request by expanding it into a full explanation of the problem, with possible solutions. Obviously it would be best to fix all affected pages with one edit at the highest level, rather than have random edits that correct or improve the formatting one page at a time, on thousands of article pages, depending on who notices it. Quoting the comments from the page "
Desvenlafaxine":
It seems reasonable to fix. I it hard to fix? A876 ( talk) 22:47, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
And there it is.
A876 (
talk)
23:54, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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00:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)@Technical 13: Thanks for the screenshot. Yes I see what you see, and I see a (minor) problem. (And I'm not the only one. Someone goes around jamming in extra linebreaks page-by-page to tweak it away.) I'll try to make a screenshot with more context to show the problem - that the final micro-spacing clashes with the established macro-spacing. (Yes I know micro-spacing is the sacred hallowed blessed almighty worshipped Status Quo. I might make up a blind-choice pair so that people are forced to pick which layout is more preferable WITHOUT knowing which one is the status quo. Even your own unprejudiced selection might surprise you.) A876 ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
@Edokter: Thanks for good points (and for addressing the issue)! I'm not code-ready, though I could try wading through the snarl in case it turns out to be simple. [However, the one time dared to I edit a Sacred Template (sandboxed, tested, rolled out), someone reverted it saying "BRD" - which is absolutely not a valid explanation - and then did not put anything on the Talk page. The same editor undid someone else's edit saying approximately "I don't trust you". (There's always someone eager to disparage, discourage, destroy good will.) So I see why some master templates are protected, to prevent futility.] Indeed, the tight spacing "is quite normal", but that's what I'm objecting to - it makes the navboxes seem part of the last section (often "External links"). "Adding an extra linebreak ... is not established practice" - but people are resorting to it thinking they are helping, which started me up. Correct, "extra linebreak [in] the template" is far too crude. Yup, it sounds a job for CSS - "space before" and "space after" that can be set various ways like minimum spacings that don't sum (don't ask me the details). But the problem is you'd have to make the chain of navboxes look like its own section, so that only ONE section spacing is added before them. (One might also consider taking the spacing-before each section and splitting it between spacing-before and spacing-after. Thus spacing -between- sections would remain the same, spacing before the first section would shrink (fixable by editing something else), and spacing after the last section would grow (as desired) - an old word processing trick. But something would have to detect the ENDing of the very last section to trigger its spacing-after. (Or maybe MediWiki's page model keeps things simple by not allowing spacing-after in any form.) Finally, your postscript was pure advocacy - "There already is some CSS in place ... to put ... space between a list and a navbox; it is set to 0.5em". Is that the ticket? I'll have to find a way to sandbox a change that template, and/or take apart a page's HTML and CSS to see if increasing the number has the desired effect (and no undesirable effects). Maybe I can locally patch the CSS. Recent browsers have tools for playing with those things... :) I'll be back when my irk wears off some (and after a sleep). A876 ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
ol + table.navbox,
ul + table.navbox {
margin-top: 1em; /* Prevent lists from clinging to navboxes */
}
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