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The Chinese in America

  • Source: "A ragged tale of riches; Chinese immigration". The Economist. Vol. 367, no. 8329. 2003-06-21. p. 76US. Archived from the original on 2024-06-30. Retrieved 2024-06-30 – via Gale.

    The article notes: "Ms Chang does not delve into the Pacific ties that might have made such a man. She does say that, during the gold rush, many Californians shipped their laundry to be cleaned in Hong Kong, at $1 a shirt. If this is true--and it is a staggering proposition, given that the Pacific Mail Steamship Company made just a dozen sailings a year, taking 33 days--then the subject deserves a chapter, not just the briefest of mentions."

Created by Cunard ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 77 past nominations.

Cunard ( talk) 11:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC). reply

Rjjiii ( talk · contribs), I think the hook is fine. Although the source questions the accuracy of the statement, the source verifies that the book makes this statement. Here are sources that verify that people in California during the gold rush era sent their laundry to Hong Kong:

  1. Goethe, Charles Matthias (1949). What's in a Name?: (Tales, Historical Or Fictitious, about 111 California Gold Belt Place Names). p. 44. OCLC  606542. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    This is not a reliable source as the author is a eugenicist. But I am including it here as it's the earliest source I can find that mentions that California gold miners shipped their laundry to Hong Kong. The book notes: "Apparently eggs from Hong Kong, Canton then were being shipped here with California miners' returned laundry."

  2. Mau, Edward Seu Chen (1989). The Mau Lineage. Honolulu: Hawaii Chinese History Center. University of Hawaii Press. p. 170. ISBN  0-8248-1114-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

    The book notes: "When the Gold Rush started, some of the San Franciscans sent their laundry to Honolulu and even to Hong Kong by sailing vessel because there was no one around to do it. By sailing vessel, it required about forty days for a round trip to Honolulu and about sixty days to Hong Kong."

  3. Rubin, Susan Goldman (1998). Toilets, Toasters and Telephones: The How and Why of Everday Objects. San Diego, California: Browndeer Press. Harcourt Brace & Company. p. 56. ISBN  0-15-201421-7. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

    The book notes: "Rich gold miners who didn't have a laundry nearby sent their shirts out to be washed, starched, and ironed-in Hong Kong, China! It cost as much as a dollar a shirt and took two to four months for the shirts to make the round-trip."

  4. Williams, Dave (2000). Misreading the Chinese Character: Images of the Chinese in Euroamerican Drama to 1925. New York: Peter Lang. p. 82. ISBN  978-0-8204-4559-5. Retrieved 2024-07-03.

    The book notes: "In the early days of the Gold Rush, Euroamerican men shipped their soiled laundry to Hong Kong or Honolulu for cleaning, and received it again after two or three months."

  5. Tchen, John Kuo Wei (1984). Genthe's Photographs of San Francisco's Old Chinatown. New York: Courier Corporation. ISBN  978-0-486-14069-8. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "As the San Francisco economy boomed with hopeful gold seekers, the city experienced continual labor shortages throughout the 1850s and 1860s. It was cheaper for male miners who refused to wash their own clothes, for example, either to send their dirty laundry on a clipper ship to Hong Kong or Honolulu to be washed or to simply throw it away, than to pay the rates to have their clothes done locally."

  6. Yee, Nick (2014). The Proteus Paradox: How Online Games and Virtual Worlds Change Us—And How They Don't. New Haven, Connecticut: Yale University Press. p. 90. ISBN  978-0-300-19099-1. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "I am describing the mid-nineteenth-century genesis of Chinese laundry shops (yi-shan-guan in Chinese) during and after the California Gold Rush. Due to the perception of laundry as women's work and the scarcity of women in California during the Gold Rush era, the local cost for doing laundry was exorbitant. Miners, both white and Chinese, routinely shipped their laundry to Honolulu and even Hong Kong for cleaning and pressing. Even then, the price was high and the process took four months. As Iris Chang describes in The Chinese in America, Chinese entrepreneurs took advantage of this economic opportunity and created local laundry shops."

  7. Ling, Huping; Austin, Allan, eds. (2015) [2010]. "Laundries, Chinese". Asian American History and Culture: An Encyclopedia: An Encyclopedia. Abingdon, Oxon: Routledge. ISBN  978-0-7656-8077-8. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "The perception by most whites that washing was work demeaning to men, together with the absence of women on the Western frontier, made laundry a service in demand. Before the arrival of the Chinese, and with California labor in short supply and hence expensive, dirty laundry was routed to Hong Kong to be washed for $12 a dozen items, and then later to Hawaii for $8 a dozen. But Chinese entrepreneurs in San Francisco saw the potential profits in doing the washing themselves on the West Coast, and prices dropped to $5 a dozen as shipping and handling costs decreased. Soon, local laundries replaced the overseas ones."

  8. Kuo, John; Tchen, Wei, eds. (1987). "Origin of the Chinese Laundry". The Chinese Laundryman: A Study of Social Isolation. New York: New York University Press. pp.  4647. ISBN  0-8147-7859-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    This source predates the 2003 book Chinese in America and discusses how laundry was shipped from San Francisco to Hawaii which cost $8 and took six to eight weeks.

    The book notes: "But it cost money for the San Franciscans to achieve such stylishness and respectability, for the laundry bills were terrific. In order to have their linen washed, starched and ironed to the right degree of whiteness and rigidity cost them eight dollars per dozen, sometimes even more. The men didn't mind paying from three to five dollars for an order of ham and eggs or a steak, but eight dollars just to scrub and iron some pieces of shirt was an excessive price. So there were grumblings aplenty. And not only that, there was also the annoyance of waiting from six to eight weeks for one's laundry to come back each time one sent it off, for mostly they were shipped to the Hawaiian Islands to be washed. And then the shirts might return with buttons missing or collars separated."

  9. Strange USA: Historical Oddities, Roadside Rarities, Unique Eats, and Amazing Americans. San Diego, California: Portable Press. 2023. ISBN  978-1-6672-0115-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "3: Number of months it took prospectors to get their clean clothes back before Wah Lee opened San Francisco's first Chinese laundry in 1851. Prior to that, there were so few laundries that miners sent dirty clothes by ship to Hong Kong, where they were cleaned, pressed, and then shipped back."

  10. Blackburn, Sarah-SoonLing (2024). Exclusion and the Chinese American Story. New York: Random House Children's Books. p. 59–60. ISBN  978-0-593-56763-0. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "By the mid-1800s, some people, mostly white, had managed to get rich in the Gold Rush. ... They often thought of laundry as a "woman's job," and therefore, beneath them. Without many other options, it became pretty common for people to ship their laundry all the way to Hong Kong to be cleaned. This took nearly four months and cost about twelve dollars for a dozen shirts, which is equal to about four hundred dollars today. Still, this was way cheaper than the alternative, to send the clothes back to the East Coast of the United States to be cleaned. Remember, the Transcontinental Rail- road wasn't finished yet, so the laundry would have had to go by boat all the way around the continent or over land on a wagon. Hong Kong was the best option for people with the money to spend on laundry, and so the shipment of clothing back and forth across the Pacific Ocean became another link between the coasts of the United States and China, another lane on the highway connecting Chinese Americans between their two lands. In the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and closer to San Francisco than to Hong Kong, you will find the islands of Hawai'i. By the mid-1800s, Hawai'i had become a stopover for people and goods as they went back and forth between China and the West Coast of the continental United States. The rich people who had been shipping their laundry to Hong Kong now had a closer, more affordable option. Instead of spending twelve dollars to have a dozen shirts washed in Hong Kong, they could spend eight dollars to have a dozen shirts washed in Honolulu."

  11. Burman, Edward (2008). China: The Stealth Empire: Why the World is Not Chinese Yet. Stroud, Gloucestershire: The History Press. ISBN  978-0-7524-9619-1. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "As the gold fever cooled, there was a shift in Chinese business patterns, first from mining to laundries, and then to railway construction. The second was the result of quintessentially Chinese entrepreneurship. The Chinese noticed that people in California were prepared to pay for laundry services, which involved shipping to the East Coast, Honolulu and even Hong Kong, which were all both costly and took time. It was obviously beneficial for customers to pay $5 for a dozen shirts rather than $12, and to receive the shirts in a few days rather than up to four months."

  12. McKeown, Adam (2014). "Movement". In Armitage, David; Bashford, Alison (eds.). Pacific Histories: Ocean, Land, People. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. p.  154. ISBN  978-1-137-00163-4. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "A similar story unfolded on the Pacific coast of the Americas. North American trade with Asia and Australia grew rapidly in the 1860s and 1870s, but failed to live up to that potential in subsequent years. In the first years of the gold rush, prices for goods and labour in California were so high that laundry was famously sent from San Francisco to Hong Kong to be washed. By the end of the 1850s, California had begun shipping wheat, quicksilver, hides, lumber, oats, beans, potatoes and wool across the Pacific to Asia and the Australian"

  13. Goldstone, Lawrence (2020). On Account of Race: The Supreme Court, White Supremacy, and the Ravaging of African American Voting Rights. Berkeley, California: Counterpoint. p. 133. ISBN  978-1-64009-576-2. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

    The book notes: "Most of the men who arrived in California to hunt for gold came alone. Mining was dirty, dusty work, but washing grimy, mud-caked clothes was considered a "woman's job." Some of the more successful single men shipped dirty clothes to Hong Kong and waited months for their return. For the rest, since local Spanish and Native American women charged too high a price, Chinese men filled the void. Within a few years, the Chinese came to dominate the laundry business in San Francisco."

Cunard ( talk) 09:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the reply. You're right. Rather than doing a review, I'd like to offer an alternative hook. Since multiple university press sources state it as a fact, could we run a hook that also presents it as a historical fact? Like this:

  • ALT1: ... that The Chinese in America documents how California gold rush prospectors mailed their laundry to Hong Kong for cleaning? "While Chang's book might first appear basic in its history lessons, even the most knowledgeable Asian-American scholar will likely find little-known facts and challenging theories within. Chang tells how gold-rush miners - both Chinese and Caucasian - sent their laundry to Hong Kong for lack of local services, hence opening up a business opportunity for entrepreneurial Chinese to take over the "women's work" that Caucasians would not do. ( Hong (2003) CSM.)"
Cited to The Christian Science Monitor in the article. @ Cunard: if you're not feeling that, let me know, and I'll strike my suggestion. If you have an improvement, let me know, and I'll review it. Rjjiii ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I am reviewing this. Onceinawhile ( talk) 06:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very good article, balanced in tone and content. ALT1 hook works well. Good to go. Onceinawhile ( talk) 17:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

First Bishops' War

  • ... that despite plans for multiple concentric invasions, the only fighting during the First Bishops' War was in north-east Scotland?
  • Source: Brooks 2005: "The only fighting was in northeast Scotland" and Kenyon & Ohlmeyer 1998a: "Between his allies inside Scotland and the concentric blows from outside the country, the king felt confident of victory."
Moved to mainspace by CSJJ104 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

CSJJ104 ( talk) 21:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC). reply

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I assume good faith on the references that I can't access, and it's helpful that the nominator included the relevant text. The promoter can choose the hook. SL93 ( talk) 00:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Myinsaing

  • Source: (Than Tun 1959: 122) and (Than Tun 1964: 137) provide the starting and ending dates of the siege: 25 January 1301 and 8 April 1301, respectively.
(Harvey 1925: 77) for the amount of bribes given to the Mongols.
Converted from a redirect by Hybernator ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 112 past nominations.

Hybernator ( talk) 00:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Article created from a redirect one day before nomination. Can't seem to notice any issues, will AGF on the inaccessible & Burmese sources for article and hook. QPQ done. Nice work. B3251 (talk) 20:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Buangkok MRT station

  • ... that in a rare form of public protest in Singapore, eight white cardboard elephants were put up to lobby for Buangkok MRT station's opening?
Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

ZKang123 ( talk) 01:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Got GA status 5 days ago, so the article and its hook is okay. I omitted the word "rare" because the sources don't exactly state that this type of protest is rare in Singapore. If the nominator can provide source for the claim then I will reverse it. Mehedi Abedin 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Well, according to Public demonstrations in Singapore, yes they are rare.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 14:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ ZKang123: Need an inline citation, because that would be WP:OR if we accept the hook without inline citation that states it is rare or any kind of indication in the source. Mehedi Abedin 14:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Other sources [1], [2]-- ZKang123 ( talk) 03:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I think you don't understand. You need a source that clearly states or indicates that "the act of putting eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening is a 'rare' form of public protest in Singapore". The two sources you provided talks about rare protest in Singapore but nothing about eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening. Mehedi Abedin 05:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Piano Quintet (Shostakovich)

Shostakovich in 1942
Shostakovich in 1942
  • Source: "His explanation of the change [in instrumentation] was idiosyncratic, to say the least. According to him, his change of heart had not been dominated by artistic considerations at all, but purely practical concerns. "Do you want to know why I wrote a piano part into the quartet? I did it so that I could play it myself and have a reason to go on tour to different towns and places. So now ... the Beethoven Quartet, who get to go everywhere, will have to take me with them, and I will get my chance to see the world as well!" We both laughed. "You are not serious?", I said. Shostakovich replied: "Absolutely! You are a dyed-in-the-wool stay-at-home, but I am a dyed-in-the-wool wanderer!" (Story of a Friendship: The Letters of Dmitry Shostakovich to Isaak Glikman, 1941–1975, p. xxxiii)
5x expanded by CurryTime7-24 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 01:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • @ CurryTime7-24: Beautiful expansion! I listened to the quintet while I reviewed — such a lovely piece deserving of this amount of detail. The recent 5x is eligible, boasts more than adequate sourcing, and doesn't raise any significant copyvio issues. Some small style issues therein that I would recommend you or another editor walk through at some point. Hook-wise, I would say ALT0 is a little misleading as phrased since he initiated the piano quintet with the intention of traveling to perform the piece, not compose it. You could clarify it or go with ALT1, which is more straightforward. This should be good to go once a QPQ is provided. Spaghettifier ( talk) 20:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Let me get back to you later today. Thanks for reviewing! — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 22:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the QPQ – approved with a pref for ALT1. Spaghettifier ( talk) 04:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Spaghettifier: Regarding your quibble with ALT0, how about...
    • ALT3: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich (pictured) said he composed his Piano Quintet because he wanted a reason to travel and "see the world"? Source: Story of a Friendship: The Letters of Dmitry Shostakovich to Isaak Glikman, 1941–1975, p. xxxiii

Soviet Red Army Monument, Harbin

Soviet Red Army Monument in Harbin
Soviet Red Army Monument in Harbin
Created by Toadboy123 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

Toadboy123 ( talk) 07:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Tulbaghia acutiloba

T. acutiloba in bloom
T. acutiloba in bloom
  • Reviewed: Three Dikgosi Monument
  • Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer! I will be looking into completing my QPQ later today! Done!
Created by Ornithoptera ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

Ornithoptera ( talk) 01:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Hi Ornithoptera, review follows: article created 1 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I made a small edit that moves one sentence a little away from the source, there is some similarity left but I think on the right side of acceptability given limited options for rewording; hook is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; image is nice and freely licensed; my only query is on your QPQ, you say you'll be doing it on 7 July but the one you've linked is from 2012 by another user? - Dumelow ( talk) 14:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks Ornithoptera, looks good to me - Dumelow ( talk) 19:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sophienburg Museum and Archives

Moved to mainspace by Kimikel ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kimikel ( talk) 00:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced, plagiarism free and a QPQ is done. ALT0 is cited and interesting, but (from my reading) ALT1 might not work: isn't it that the fort was named after the princess, and the museum is named after the fort? So slightly different in the hook to the article. I might be overthinking though! Lajmmoore ( talk) 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TESCREAL

Moved to mainspace by Bluethricecreamman ( talk), GorillaWarfare ( talk), and JoaquimCebuano ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 17:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Was a draft until today so new enough and, as I now realise, also long enough. I can't see any problems in the article around copyvio, POV or OR. Sourcing looks good overall and the hook citations appear to be sound and reliable. The hook is certainly interesting because it caught my eye immediately when I was checking my own nomination. QPQ has been done. I think this is fine and it should be promoted. PearlyGigs ( talk) 21:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Oppose this nomination: An article on this subject was deleted 7 months ago because of weak sourcing. There haven't been any new sources added other than a paper by the two proponents of this theory and lots of other really weak sources. Wikipedia's job isn't to promote anti-vaxx conspiracy theories or other conspiracy theories, of which in my and other people's opinions, this is one. The only people claiming that ANYONE adheres to these multiple philosophies is Torres and Gebru. --- Avatar317 (talk) 00:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Original admin who closed AfD undeleted it after i proposed appropriate changes. the AfD never came to consensus of conspiracy theory (just u), and deleted it due to lack of WP:N. if u want to delete this again, use AfD again or bug the original admin. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreed that that would be a conversation for AfD, not DYK. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 01:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
The LEAD is well written and neutral, thanks for that.--- Avatar317 (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I was aware when I did the DYK review that the article is about ideologies, but I don't consider the article to be promoting those ideologies because it is neutral. The subject, in my opinion, is notable. I can't say I'm knowledgeable about TESCREAL but the article does appear to be adequately sourced. I've been reading it again and I still think the hook should be promoted. But, as I say, I am not an SME in this area so I will happily step aside if an SME is needed. Incidentally, the lead is the primary location of the hook material and its two sources. Thanks. PearlyGigs ( talk) 09:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I have to second the concerns brought up above: this article was merged in November for poor sourcing and the fact that it seemed to lean very heavily into the op-ed angle of the source it did use. To be clear, I certainly have a great personal distaste for the majority of people who run the majority of software companies, and ethical objections to a good portion of the United States' GDP (I am a diehard Linux user with all of the political implications that entails). However, the implication that "global tech elites" are engaged in a deliberate scheme to carry out eugenics (as one of the sources said from the previous version of this article), based on a collection of op-eds and blog posts where people who hate them say this a bunch of times, seems to raise some rather significant BLP issues. It is somewhat concerning to vaguely imply this in wikivoice as though it's settled fact, and then the citations are to a journal of biosemiotics. jp× g 🗯️ 02:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Posting on here same stuff as in the Talk Page section:
A) This article was merged for lack of WP:N. If you consider it still an issue, use WP:AfD or bug the original admin who deleted, merged, than undeleted this. It isn't a valid argument to suggest that it's settled that it deserves to remerged if we've added a ton of sourcing and improved on it. Settle it by starting the process to delete it if you want.
B) Are there reliable sources indicating that TESCREAL is a significantly derogatory epithet similar to Libtard/Chud? Marc Andreessen self-describes as TESCREAList. Many of these folks regularly ascribe to multiple of these philosophies as transhumanists, ethical altruists, long-termists, etc. Sourcing here does not necessarily imply that every TESCREAList is also a eugenicist, nor do we use WP:SYNTH to suggest that these folks are all eugenicists. There is no mention of eugenicist claims in the third section. Also, we have Big Tech as a wikipedia article along with criticism, which is also a similar "perjorative" against tech companies, and other significant "perjoratives" with negative connotations such as Democrat in Name Only and Cuckservative. These all explain what opinion writers and commentators mean, and why. This article is far more tame than many of those.
C) That more than a dozen opinions use a term like this should be notable enough. I suspect that any sort of article about philosophies will require opinionated sources or commentaries. Effective altruism includes sourcing from Centre for Effective Altruism and by extension the Effective Altruism Forum, study centers specifically invested in effective altruism and founded by leaders, as well as many opinions.
D) WP:OPINION applies here, especially for philosphical arguments. I looked for criticisms of TESCREAL. If more are published, we can include them. These sources are WP:SECONDARY, they contain analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Secondary sources are not necessarily independent sources.
E) If you want to settle WP:BLP, please post in the section on WP:BLPN. We've already started and done this argument. There are multiple sources on WP:PUBLICFIGUREs here alleging that many of these folks use TESCREAL to justify their tech projects, and we make sure to use the word "allege" correctly, as per WP:OPINION, along with the correct sourcing
Conclusion:) TESCREAL is unliked by some portion of folks on here for some reason. I'm happy to listen to arguments, but I want an argument about why we are suddenly so sensitive about criticism of Elon Musk/etc. for using human extinction for every time someone criticizes his behavior or cars or products. If you are just an elon musk/nick bostrum/etc. fan, than say it and stop throwing mud on an article that contains a criticism of philosophies that occurs often enough that we can gather 20+ sources, including 10 using the term in severe detail to directly dissect the argument that yelling extinction every 15 minutes doesn't mean you've justified your next mega project. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
information Note: In the interests of not duplicating every comment, I'll just note that there is a parallel discussion happening at Talk:TESCREAL#Neutrality (to/from which some of these comments have been copied). GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 12:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Lewis Worthington Smith

Created by SL93 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 409 past nominations.

SL93 ( talk) 00:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Hook is interesting and appropriately sourced. Article is both long and new enough. No copyvio concerns. QPQ done. I'd wager that The Mechanism of English Style is either suitable as a redirect or an article. Great work! ~ Pbritti ( talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Stefano Manetti

Bishop Stefano Manetti
Bishop Stefano Manetti
Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 105 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 15:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Can we say "co-consecrated" instead of "consecrated" in the hook to reflect the citation more accurately? Sohom ( talk) 03:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ok. Ergo Sum 04:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Sohom ( talk) 03:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Earwig alerts to long titles, and the hook is in the article (not all together) - in two separate places. Bruxton ( talk) 19:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The boys of Pointe du Hoc

Moved to mainspace by MicrobiologyMarcus ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

microbiologyMarcus petri dish· growths 20:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: All sources verified. Good to go with main or either ALT. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 MLS All-Star Game

Converted from a redirect by SounderBruce ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 237 past nominations.

Sounder Bruce 02:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Article is newly created (converted from redirect) and long enough. QPQ has been done. The six sources in the article are reliable (ESPN) or from official press releases. But there are a couple of copyvio concerns, especially phrases like "selected by MLS commissioner Don Garber", "was created on May 13", "appeared in at least 50 percent" which can be further reworded. Personally I find the ALT1 hook more interesting, especially on its focus on the bolded article.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 02:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Accessibility of transport in London

London Taxi with wheelchair ramp
London Taxi with wheelchair ramp
Moved to mainspace by Turini2 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Turini2 ( talk) 12:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Some problems need fixing. TheNuggeteer ( talk) 02:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I've made changes and comments as required to the article. I think I'd like to focus on the positive hooks, with this photo instead? Turini2 ( talk) 11:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
London bus with wheelchair ramp
I think I found a better hook.
I think that is more interesting as since the TfL bus fleet has been accessible for a while. but since the LU is the oldest metro systems, its partially accessible with only a third. Also with taxis, I assume you're talking about the TfL ones since other services like Uber likely don't have the accessibility scheme in place and use a normal car. I also think something that is not mostly accessible is better and more interesting that those that are fully accessible. For example, a hook stating that the Elizabeth line is fully accessible (even including the old stations) wouldn't be interesting as new(er) systems are expected to be accessible/have step free systems. JuniperChill ( talk) 09:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure, I'm happy to go with that hook with a minor tweak for "step-free"- yes, I mean "London black taxi", technically Uber is not a taxi ( Vehicle for hire). I didn't want to be too negative about accessibility, but the Tube one is balanced. Could use the lead photo - unsure on caption though! Turini2 ( talk) 10:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Sorry for the late reply as I was out and about. Anyway, I don't really need to see the point of the photo if we are talking about 1/3rd of LU stations accessible since I cannot think what demonstrates it, plus its very tight for images on DYK because only one image a day (or two images a day in the event of a backlog) for the ~8 hooks. Also @ TheNuggeteer:, what do you think of the new hook as you initially reviewed it? JuniperChill ( talk) 16:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I think "only" should be removed, but other than that, it's fine. 🍗TheNugg eteer🍗 23:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
All other issues with the article are now resolved (it has a more substantive lead, fixed words etc) Turini2 ( talk) 09:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Now its time to turn the signal green now that the hook issue has been fixed. I didn't know step-free has a hyphen so I'm fine with that alongside removing the 'only'. JuniperChill ( talk) 10:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Capital Bicycle Club

Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
  • Source: Bloom, John (2015). "The Extraordinary History of Cycling and Bike Racing in Washington, DC". In Elzey, Chris; Wiggins, David K. (eds.). DC Sports: The Nation's Capital at Play. pages 3–5
Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 57 past nominations.

Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 19:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. AGF on hook source. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Riley Gale

Riley Gale in 2019
Riley Gale in 2019
  • ... that a critic compared vocalist Riley Gale (pictured) to a "rabid wolf"?
Converted from a redirect by Kimikel ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kimikel ( talk) 01:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Kimikel Article meets DYK standards – well-sourced, neutral, and free of plagiarism (the article is a defo must-read, pretty nice writing for a short article). The source comes from a reliable source which is... the bare minimum but yeah it works! The image supplied works as well, pretty nice quality. Original alt works. Arconning ( talk) 15:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Tomato sandwich

Tomato sandwich
Tomato sandwich
5x expanded by Valereee ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 73 past nominations.

Valereee ( talk) 17:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great expansion; very informative article on a local delicacy. QPQ and Earwig all good. The problem is the hook, which is misleadingly written in wikivoice. The hook needs to make clear that it is not stating an objective fact, but referring to an opinion from the cited source. — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 21:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the review, CurryTime7-24 -- would this work:
ALT0a: ... that the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) are so messy, enthusiasts recommend they be eaten over the kitchen sink?
Valereee ( talk) 22:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This is better, but "best sandwiches" and their suggested ideal method of eating are both opinions from the cited source. Slight adjustments to ALT0a should solve this issue. Thanks for the reply! — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 23:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
ALT0b: ... that enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be so messy that they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?
* Pppery * it has begun... 05:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks, Pppery...maybe a slight tweak:
ALT0c: ... that some enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be those so messy they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?
ALT1: ... that some enthusiasts consider being so messy it needs to be eaten over the kitchen sink one of the marks of a good tomato sandwich (pictured)?
Valereee ( talk) 13:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ping CurryTime7-24 -- does one of these work for you? Valereee ( talk) 17:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Both ALT0c and ALT1 are dandy, thanks! Great work. — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 18:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

John Henry Hirst

  • ... that architect John Henry Hirst was found at the bottom of the stairs at home, with a broken neck?
  • Source: "The late Mr J. H. Hirst". Western Daily Press. 8 July 1882. p. 5 col.8. "(Inquest report:) Death resulted from an accident at his residence ... Death was the result of a dislocation of the neck caused by an accidental fall downstairs".
Moved to mainspace by Storye book ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Storye book ( talk) 09:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Environmental impacts of artificial intelligence

  • ... that training the model for ChatGPT used the equivalent energy footprint of driving 123 gasoline-powered passenger vehicles for a year?
Created by Bluethricecreamman ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 03:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: awkwafaba ( 📥) 16:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Bluethricecreamman: Thank you for your hard work. Please fix copyvios and sourcing issues and then we can proceed.

Ok, i've updated the template with the corrected source for the first one (I guess I mixed up the two scientific american articles, I think they bothy say that GPT-3 releases 552 metric tons of Co2, but only one talks about the comparison to cars. Thanks for catching that! Also fixed ALT1, thanks for fixing that as well! Apologies for incorrect info, I'll try to read a bit slower with these articles. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I didn't dig to hard on that spammy site earlier, sorry. I agree that they stole from enwiki and not the other way around. All three hooks are good to go. I think ALT0 is the most compelling. awkwafaba ( 📥) 01:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Specifically, I am a little concerned that statistics-heavy topics like this, when they're directly related to buzzwordy trending topics in the news cycle, tend to be very ill-suited to being patched out from headlines. That is to say, writing the shark attack and dog attack based solely on news coverage would give the impression that these were both uncommon things that do happen every once in a while, when in reality the yearly rates are eighty versus several million. This article quotes a bunch of figures from news stories back-to-back, and there doesn't really seem to be much attempt at comparison or context. For example, there is a paper cited that projects 85-143 TWh of global power consumption from neural networks by 2027, based on a conjectural optimistic scenario where NVIDIA/TSMC transition their entire manufacturing output to A100s (all of which are installed in data centers and used for nothing but LLM inference). By comparison, this paper estimated that video gaming consumed 34 TWh/year in the United States alone in 2019; this document from the DoE says that aluminum production in the US in 2000 consumed a total of 279.2 TWh/yr. The US consumes about 16% of the world's electricity, so a very rough approximation here would give a ballpark estimate of 212.5 TWh for gaming (the US does about 2% of aluminum production worldwide, giving us around 13960 TWh yearly for global aluminum production). It also seems like there is a lot of ambiguity between training (a fixed cost, as models are only trained once) and inference (the process that happens when running the model, which typically requires billions or trillions of times less computation). I am somewhat worried about having this on the front page. jp× g 🗯️ 23:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
you are literally using us energy gov stats to WP:SYNTH a whataboutism argument… by the same logic, the criticism section of any industries environmental impact can be called misleading because theres always another more polluting industry you can point to. the comparison you suggest is “missing” is literally that training ChatGPT training took as much energy as 123 gasoline powered cars yearly footprints. and suggesting that including examples from news articles headlining the carbon footprint is a bad thing for wikipedia is inane. most articles on here use secondary souces such as news articles. and most DyK hooks are eyecatching Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 00:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
For the specific task of literally writing an encyclopedia article about a topic, I would say that answering questions like "why is this statistic relevant" or "what does this number mean" is probably its most important purpose. I gave a couple examples to illustrate what this looks like, obviously there is no reason why aluminum manufacturing in particular is more relevant than anything else. The most appropriate source here would likely be something like a textbook or monograph about electrical consumption by various industries, and how this related to environmental concerns in general. Since this is a subject of rather large significance, it is important that our writing on it be accurate, and not news. I am opposed to running stuff on the main page where vague insinuations are made by factoids of unexplained significance -- e.g. what's a terawatt-hour? what's a gram of CO2? why are some figures given in one and some as the other, and still others given in folksy derivative units like average midsize sedan gasoline consumption rates over average suburban commutes? jp× g 🗯️ 01:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Moreover, ALT0 is not supported by the source. Indeed, OpenAI's well-known sleazy refusal to be transparent about any of its operations or research means that the source cannot say that, because the source does not know. The figure claimed as fact in this hook is, in the source, carefully and explicitly presented as an approximate figure derived by estimation (it's from https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.10350 -- note the methods they are using). jp× g 🗯️ 01:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not arguing these bad faith arguments after this. The source link is literally right there for anyone to read. There are three links I cite with the 552 metric tons figure in the article. Most of the "environmental impacts of" are similar collections of "factoids" discussing various industry leaders. And by your logic of WP:NOTNEWS, we should remove most news articles discussing long term trends in any industry. WP:NOTNEWS specifically states no original reporting on wikipedia (we don't report the news ourselves, we cite it), and calls for enduring notability of information (we don't do an article if its just one or two articles). if you find a reputable source arguing that this is a false number or a false comparison, feel free to edit the article. I respect your work as an admin, and your experience, but this is silly. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 01:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

William P. Dole

  • Source: Kelsey, Harry (1979). "William P. Dole (1861–1865)". In Kvasnicka, Robert M.; Viola, Herman J. (eds.). The Commissioners of Indian Affairs, 1824-1977. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. pp. 139-140
William P. Dole, 1860s
William P. Dole, 1860s
Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 58 past nominations.

Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius ( talk) 15:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Scott Jarvis (actor)

Created by 4meter4 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 83 past nominations.

4meter4 ( talk) 17:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • This looks good! Long enough, eligible, no evidence of copyvio, QPQ done. Hook is cited in-article. I'll have to AGF on the source itself, but otherwise everything seems good. Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 03:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Cocoa production in São Tomé and Príncipe

Cocoa harvested in São Tomé and Príncipe
Cocoa harvested in São Tomé and Príncipe
  • Source: Drew, Keith (6 July 2023). "How the Chocolate Islands are rediscovering their roots". BBC. Retrieved 28 June 2024. The trees thrived in the rich volcanic soil, and by the early 1900s, São Tomé and Príncipe was the biggest exporter of cacao in the world, earning it the nickname of 'The Chocolate Islands'.
  • ALT1: ... that São Tomé and Príncipe was known as "the Chocolate Islands" in the early 1900s, when it was the world's top exporter of cocoa (samples pictured)? Source: Same as above.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emmanuella Atora
  • Comment: Technically, São Tomé and Príncipe is a singular country (a Portuguese colony at the time mentioned in the hook). The hook should therefore use singular conjugations of verbs, but it sounded too odd upon my initial reading. I thus changed the verbs to their plural conjugations, as if the islands themselves are being described rather than the modern country or the former colony. I have nonetheless included my original wording as ALT1, in case the reviewer or promoter wants to compare the two.
Created by Yue ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Yue 🌙 07:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Hi Yue, review follows: article created 3 July and exceeds minimum length; I reworded one sentence slightly to move it further from the source, but otherwise I don't think there is an issue with overly close paraphrasing; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited (BBC); a QPQ has been provided; image is properly licensed and looks fine. I changed from single to double quotation marks in the hooks to match the article and, I think, our MOS. In terms of plurals I think English_plurals#Geographical_plurals_used_as_singular discusses this; either alternative sounds OK to me but British English tends to be a bit more flexible than US English on this (see eg. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Plurals) - Dumelow ( talk) 09:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Dumelow: Thank you for taking the time to do this review! On second thought, maybe ALT1 is the better choice because ALT0 implies that there were two exporters instead of one. Yue 🌙 02:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Highest averages method

Improved to Good Article status by Closed Limelike Curves ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 17:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: no concerns; it's a new GA. prefer ALT1 as clearer and hook-ier to a general audience. good work! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 01:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Abdul Ali Deobandi

  • ... that Abdul Ali Deobandi stipulated that women were prohibited from learning reading and writing, even at home?
  • Reviewed:
Created by Faldi00 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Faldi00 ( talk) 08:12, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports very few text similiarity commenting "violation unlikely". The hokk is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate, however, a reference is needed directly at the end of the sentence in the article. No QPQ is required for the nominator. I will approve after the reference issue is addressed. CeeGee 15:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I added the missing citing by myself because there wa no reaction in couple of days, and the issue was minor. I guess the issue was not understood. Anyway, it is now fine. Good to go. CeeGee 03:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Céline Dept

Celine Dept in 2024
Celine Dept in 2024
  • ... that Céline Dept (pictured) was the first Belgian YouTuber to reach 10 million subscribers?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Several newspapers in Belgium covered this fact at the time, so I think it's notable.
Created by Howardcorn33 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Howard🌽33 20:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - This direct quote needs to have a footnote immediately following: "At first, it was all for fun, but suddenly it went super fast and I was busy with it full time." Per DYK guidelines, the hook fact needs to also have a footnote directly following it; I would put one where the fact appears in both the lead and body.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
  • Other problems: No - I'm a little concerned about the reliablity of TVovermind. Searching for it on the perennial sources noticeboard, there's some concern that it's a low-quality clickbait website. Is there a better source available for Dept's birthday? Her nlwiki article cites Famous Birthdays, which is blacklisted and therefore unhelpful. Otherwise, WP:DOB dictates we need to remove it or only include the year, should a source be available. (Maybe check her socials? A birthday tweet or something would be acceptable.)
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @ Howardcorn33: Meets criteria, Earwig clear, very well-sourced, image is CC licensed, just a couple of tweaks needed. T C Memoire 14:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: I have added a citation in the lead for where it mentions the DYK fact, in addition to placing a citation next to the direct quotation. As for her birth date, I have been unable to find any source, excluding TVovermind, which states her birth date in full. I have found a pinned YouTube comment in her CEMI channel which says her birthday is on December 8. [1] We know that she was 23 years old on September 26, 2023, [2] so I believe we can infer her birth date as being December 8, 1999. Would it be acceptable if I assembled these two sources to state her full birth date? ― Howard🌽33 19:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  1. ^ Pinned comment at "WIJ ORGANISEREN EEN VERJAARDAGSFEEST VOOR 8-JARIGE FAN.. (Ze Weet Van Niets..) #630" (Media notes) (in Dutch). 2023-10-15. Archived from the original on 2024-07-09. Retrieved 2024-07-09. Op welke dag ben jij jarig? 🎉 Michiel 6 april & Celine 8 december!
  2. ^ "Céline Dept becomes first Belgian to reach 10 million YouTube subscribers". The Brussels Times. 2023-09-26. Archived from the original on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04.
@ Howardcorn33: Unfortunately not; WP:DOB addresses this point, that concensus has been reached that combining sources to deduce a birthdate is considered WP:SYNTH. I would bet that TVovermind is just ripping from Famous Birthdays. Good new, though: if you go back through her celine.dept Instagram, there's a post from December 9, 2019, where she says "yesterday was my 20th birthday", we can use that. I would drop the link for you but I'm having issues linking from Instagram on my phone, sorry! Edit: She also dropped this Tiktok with #22, so that helps alleviate any concern that she wouldn't be okay continuing to advertise her birthday. T C Memoire 09:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ TCMemoire: I have added the Instagram and TikTok posts as references and removed Tvovermind. ― Howard🌽33 14:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Howardcorn33: Thanks. Good to go now :) T C Memoire 17:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Bengisu Avcı

  • Source: "En son Hawaii’deki Ka’iwi (Molokai) parkurunu yüzmeye çalıştım,", "Her açık deniz yüzücüsünün hayali olan Okyanus 7’lisinin 5. parkurunda Portekiz Man o'War denizanasına temas edince büyük acı duyan Bengisu, parkuru tamamlayamadı." (in Turkish) [8]
Created by CeeGee ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 221 past nominations.

CeeGee 15:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great work! I'm currently in Turkey and I enjoyed reading and reviewing the article, and it looks like it has no obvious issues from what I can see. I'm partial to the second hook but open to either hook being used depending on the final decision of the closing reviewer. -- Sky Harbor ( talk) 16:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

George Hunter Cary

Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 06:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC). reply

Fred Thomas (British politician)

  • Alt1... that before Fred Thomas became Member of Parliament for Plymouth Moor View, he was the Royal Marines' light heavyweight boxing champion?
  • Alt2... that before Fred Thomas became Member of Parliament for Plymouth Moor View, he learned to read and write in Arabic and studied abroad in Egypt?
  • Created by Sahaib ( talk) and Gaia Octavia Agrippa ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

    Sahaib ( talk) 13:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: I am concerned about the hook for WP:BLP focusing on the negative aspects of his career. Can you share some alternatives? AnotherColonialHistorian ( talk) 15:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Green checkmarkY Much better and more interesting! Approve Alt1. AnotherColonialHistorian ( talk) 16:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Three Dikgosi Monument

    Improved to Good Article status by 48JCL ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    48 JCL 16:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Going to review this one, since my DYK nomination has a distribution in Botswana as well. Was on DYK previously, but guidelines were changed to allow for renominations after 5 years (previous inclusion was in 2012). New enough, long enough, sourced, neutral, and plagiarism free. Hook is cited and interesting. I'm going to hold on to the confirmation temporarily to ensure whether @ 48JCL: wants to include the photograph as well, since there appears to be a caption but there is no photograph included in the template. Ornithoptera ( talk) 01:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Ornithoptera, as Botswana does not have Freedom of Panorama, we can't run this hook with an image. Schwede 66 05:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    User:Ornithoptera Thanks, but this isn't my first time here. Regards, 48 JCL 01:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    2024 Rose Bowl

    5x expanded by PCN02WPS ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 77 past nominations.

    PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 03:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General eligibility:

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Ready to go. Sahaib ( talk) 15:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Tobey (song)

    Created by Launchballer ( talk) and Dxneo ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 236 past nominations.

    Laun chba ller 09:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    @ Arconning: We have a slight problem, in that I just came across this BBC piece which confirms that it is definitely Shady Eminem takes a chainsaw to, which means "likely" won't fly. What is your opinion of the following:
    ALT1: ... that the music video for " Tobey", in which Eminem carves into his own alter ego with a chainsaw, was delayed by three days?
    ALT2: ... that the music video for " Tobey", featuring "3 generations of Detroit", features Eminem carving into his own alter ego with a chainsaw?-- Laun chba ller 13:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Launchballer Since the "likely" isn't applicable now, wouldn't it be better to omit "likely" and I'd suggest ALT1a: ... that in the music video for " Tobey", Eminem carves into his own alter ego with a chainsaw?" Though ALT1 itself is fine for me, just need your confirmation if you're okay with sticking with ALT1. Arconning ( talk) 13:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I think it might fall foul of WP:DYKFICTION on its own, hence the extra information. I'm sure a promoter can opine.-- Laun chba ller 13:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Pass for ALT1 Arconning ( talk) 13:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Richard Beale Davis, Chivers' Life of Poe

    • Source: Chivers' Life of Poe, p. 15. "The state of Chivers' manuscript would suggest that he continued to revise the work at least through 1857, the year he died."
    Improved to Good Article status by Pretzelles ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Pretzelles ( talk) 21:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Promoted to GA on 5 July. The following sentence lacks an inline citation: "In 2010, Lofaro published Southern Manuscript Sermons before 1800: A Bibliography, dedicating the work to Davis and noting him as one of four contributing editors."

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Moved to mainspace on 12 July. The synopsis doesn't need citations. For this DYK nomination, only one QPQ is needed, as the nominator had four nominations beforehand. Skyshifter talk 23:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Wandering Souls (novel)

    Created by MarchOfTheGreyhounds ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 411 past nominations.

    SL93 ( talk) 21:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply


    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Thank you for this useful article, on a subject which needs to be written about.

    • Note: The article has well over 2,000 characters (not counting the summary section, which has no citations). Therefore it is long enough. WP book-plot summaries are not usually cited, and the rest of the article is properly sourced (except see my last bullet point below)..
    • I have given the article a minor copyedit. That does not affect DYK.
    • A Very British History is not mentioned in the source you have given above, for ALT0. I have checked all the other sources in the article, and cannot find it in any of them. Am I missing something? Please tell me where the fact is cited, or add a new source for that fact to the article?

    When a source is found for the above fact, this nomination should be good to go. Storye book ( talk) 09:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Storye book I have fixed the sourcing in the article. The gal-dem source says the episode is Whatever Happened to the Boat People? and I added a further source showing which show the episode came from. SL93 ( talk) 13:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thank you for your prompt reply, SL93. That is a brilliant solution, thank you. Now all is clear in the article.
    Good to go. Storye book ( talk) 18:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Congenital anosmia

    Created by AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 21:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Why not make the hook short and snappy? Schwede 66 05:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Much better! AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 16:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Will review this. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) Looks decent and I like ALT3, but on second thought I'm probably not familiar enough with medical topics to give a good review on this. I'll leave it to someone else to give a full review. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I'll take over.
    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - ALT0 is verified. ALT1's source does not seem to mention food enjoyment. Neither of ALT2's sources from the article nor the one in Ben Cohen (businessman)'s article mention that his anosmia is congenital. Assuming that ALT3 is the same source as ALT0, it also checks out.
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: awkwafaba ( 📥) 15:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    @ AbhiSuryawanshi: I just want to make sure you saw this. awkwafaba ( 📥) 02
    12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ Awkwafaba: Thanks for the ping. I would like to know if I can add more sources such as https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/01455613221111496 and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5865213/ for ALT3 -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 06:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ AbhiSuryawanshi: Both of those sources support the claim in ALT3 (as did the source from ALT0). The first one directly cites this article so that would probably be the best source. These should be added in the article.
    The statement "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it." also needs to be handled. You don't want to have the article sound ableist and violate NPOV. The new source you added explicitly counters the statement in the article by saying "People with congenital olfactory loss may not miss what they never had." In this way, the congenital form of the condition is different from the acquired form, and this should be in the article.
    You also need to find a source that says Ben Cohen has the congenital form of the condition, or remove the statement from the article. awkwafaba ( 📥) 16:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Awkwafaba: Thank you for the feedback. I have removed the sentence stating "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it" to avoid any potential ableism and to maintain a neutral point of view. Additionally, I have revised the mention of Ben Cohen to remove the reference to congenital anosmia. Although an interview mentions his anosmia from childhood, which is often considered congenital anosmia, I understand the need for a specific reference that clearly spells out "congenital anosmia." Therefore, I am removing the term "congenital" for now until I can find a source that explicitly confirms it. -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 17:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I wanted to inform you that I have now struck through ALT1 and ALT2. I would appreciate it if only ALT3 (ALT3: ... that 1 in 10,000 individuals are born without the ability to smell?) could be considered for DYK. -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 18:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    reference issues addressed suffieciently. ALT2 is rejected. Rest are fine by me, but OP wants ALT3, so let's go with that. Thanks for the hard work! awkwafaba ( 📥) 18:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thank you for the feedback and approval of the remaining ALTs. I'm fine with multiple ALTs if that works better. This is my first DYK, so I really appreciate your support and guidance! -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 19:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Cultybraggan Camp

    Cultybraggan Camp
    Cultybraggan Camp
    • ... that the area of Cultybraggan Camp (pictured) has been a royal hunting ground, a prison for fervent Nazis and the site of a underground bunker intended for use in a nuclear war?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mariesa Crow
    • Comment: I reviewed this article (nominated by Pahunkat) and advised the nominator to put it up for DYK. They haven't done so but I thought it would be a shame to miss this interesting a subject so am nominating it myself. I will complete a QPQ when I get time over the next couple of days.
    Improved to Good Article status by Pahunkat ( talk) and Shipsview ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    Llewee ( talk) 01:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Llewee, review follows: article promoted to GA on 6 July' article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck; image is properly sourced and licensed; hook fact is interesting and mentioned in the article, the latter parts check out to the sources cited, I will have to AGF on the hunting part as I can't read Latin; this should be good to go once a QPQ is provided - Dumelow ( talk) 08:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Thanks for nominating this Llewee, I've done the QPQ for you. I like the hook. The latin part was mentioned in the GA review, there's other things in the article it could be replaced by if it isn't permissible here (e.g. self-catering holiday accomodation). Pahunkat ( talk) 13:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hi Pahunkat, thanks for the QPQ. I am happy to assume in good faith that the Latin source supports what's in the article and pass this review - Dumelow ( talk) 14:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Dumelow and Llewee: the key Latin sentence seems to be "Item misse versiis Collybrathane ad venationes Regis iij' xl panes [Also sent to Collybrathane to the King's hunting expeditions, 40 loaves of bread - via Google translate]". @ Unoquha: you added the sentence to the article here, do you have a source that identifies Collybrathane and Cultybraggan? TSventon ( talk) 12:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    The placename spelling is somewhat eccentric in this old (1836) edition of the manuscript Latin (appears twice). I can't find it spelled exactly like that elsewhere. There is no reason to think of anywhere else though, in easy reach of Stirling and Perth. Apparently, the place belonged to a royal official called Reddoch or Redeheuch. Unoquha ( talk) 13:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Godzilla Minus One

    • ... that a Japanese essayist and film historian has called Godzilla Minus One a "dangerous movie"?
    Improved to Good Article status by Eiga-Kevin2 ( talk). Nominated by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley ( talk) 20:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    McVey Fire

    Aftermath of the McVey Fire
    Aftermath of the McVey Fire
    • ... that after the McVey Fire, the United States Forest Service accidentally planted thousands of non-native trees?
    • Reviewed: Céline Dept
    • Comment: QPQ pending completed. Welcome to hook tweaks.
    Moved to mainspace by TCMemoire ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    T C Memoire 10:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Article created 4 days before nomination. Meets adequate length requirements, properly sourced inline, Earwig doesn't pick up any issues. QPQ done, and hook is good. Nice work! B3251 (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Libotonius

    Libotonius pearsoni fossil
    Libotonius pearsoni fossil
    • ... that some of the first likely Libotonius (pictured) fossils collected are lost at the Smithsonian?
    • Source: Wilson 1978 doi: 10.1139/e78-075 "Since then Pearson's collection was forwarded to, but never accessioned in, the Smithsonian Institution. and it cannot now be located.
      Wilson 1979 doi: 10.2307/1443214 "Pearson's specimens cannot be located, but they probably included specimens of the new species described here, rather than a species of the similar Erismatopterus"
    • ALT1: ... that Libotonius (pictured) are small fish, with adults ranging between just 10.6–40.0 mm (0.42–1.57 in)? Source: Wilson 1977 Page 44 L. blakeburnensis GENERAL FEATURES Summary statistics for the species are given in Table 5. The known specimens (Fig. 13) represent only a small size range, from about 30 to possibly 40 mm
      Wilson 1979 doi: 10.2307/1443214 L. pearsoni Description.-All specimens small compared with other Eocene percopsiforms, ranging from 10.6–20.8 mm (0.42–0.82 in) standard length
    Moved to mainspace by Kevmin ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 354 past nominations.

    Kev min § 15:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - ALT0 is interesting, ALT1 isn’t super thrilling for me, but I would let the readers decide.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: I like ALT0 the best, but both are cleared awkwafaba ( 📥) 02:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    2000 Cambodian coup d'état attempt

    Created by Arcahaeoindris ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    Arcahaeoindris ( talk) 15:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Charles Tottenham, 8th Marquess of Ely

    Created by Roc0ast3r ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

     RONIN   TALK  20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Hi Roc0ast3r, interesting article; review follows: article created 6 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources; hooks are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to the sources cited; a QPQ is not required. Looks fine to me, nice work - Dumelow ( talk) 07:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This page transcludes a subset of the nominations found on the page of all the approved nominations for the " Did you know" section of the Main Page. It only transcludes the nominations filed under dates of the third-most recent week. The page is intended to allow editors to easily review recent nominations that may not be displaying correctly on the complete page of approved nominations if that page's contents are causing the page to hit the post-expand include size limit.

    The Chinese in America

    • Source: "A ragged tale of riches; Chinese immigration". The Economist. Vol. 367, no. 8329. 2003-06-21. p. 76US. Archived from the original on 2024-06-30. Retrieved 2024-06-30 – via Gale.

      The article notes: "Ms Chang does not delve into the Pacific ties that might have made such a man. She does say that, during the gold rush, many Californians shipped their laundry to be cleaned in Hong Kong, at $1 a shirt. If this is true--and it is a staggering proposition, given that the Pacific Mail Steamship Company made just a dozen sailings a year, taking 33 days--then the subject deserves a chapter, not just the briefest of mentions."

    Created by Cunard ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 77 past nominations.

    Cunard ( talk) 11:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC). reply

    Rjjiii ( talk · contribs), I think the hook is fine. Although the source questions the accuracy of the statement, the source verifies that the book makes this statement. Here are sources that verify that people in California during the gold rush era sent their laundry to Hong Kong:

    1. Goethe, Charles Matthias (1949). What's in a Name?: (Tales, Historical Or Fictitious, about 111 California Gold Belt Place Names). p. 44. OCLC  606542. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      This is not a reliable source as the author is a eugenicist. But I am including it here as it's the earliest source I can find that mentions that California gold miners shipped their laundry to Hong Kong. The book notes: "Apparently eggs from Hong Kong, Canton then were being shipped here with California miners' returned laundry."

    2. Mau, Edward Seu Chen (1989). The Mau Lineage. Honolulu: Hawaii Chinese History Center. University of Hawaii Press. p. 170. ISBN  0-8248-1114-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The book notes: "When the Gold Rush started, some of the San Franciscans sent their laundry to Honolulu and even to Hong Kong by sailing vessel because there was no one around to do it. By sailing vessel, it required about forty days for a round trip to Honolulu and about sixty days to Hong Kong."

    3. Rubin, Susan Goldman (1998). Toilets, Toasters and Telephones: The How and Why of Everday Objects. San Diego, California: Browndeer Press. Harcourt Brace & Company. p. 56. ISBN  0-15-201421-7. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The book notes: "Rich gold miners who didn't have a laundry nearby sent their shirts out to be washed, starched, and ironed-in Hong Kong, China! It cost as much as a dollar a shirt and took two to four months for the shirts to make the round-trip."

    4. Williams, Dave (2000). Misreading the Chinese Character: Images of the Chinese in Euroamerican Drama to 1925. New York: Peter Lang. p. 82. ISBN  978-0-8204-4559-5. Retrieved 2024-07-03.

      The book notes: "In the early days of the Gold Rush, Euroamerican men shipped their soiled laundry to Hong Kong or Honolulu for cleaning, and received it again after two or three months."

    5. Tchen, John Kuo Wei (1984). Genthe's Photographs of San Francisco's Old Chinatown. New York: Courier Corporation. ISBN  978-0-486-14069-8. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "As the San Francisco economy boomed with hopeful gold seekers, the city experienced continual labor shortages throughout the 1850s and 1860s. It was cheaper for male miners who refused to wash their own clothes, for example, either to send their dirty laundry on a clipper ship to Hong Kong or Honolulu to be washed or to simply throw it away, than to pay the rates to have their clothes done locally."

    6. Yee, Nick (2014). The Proteus Paradox: How Online Games and Virtual Worlds Change Us—And How They Don't. New Haven, Connecticut: Yale University Press. p. 90. ISBN  978-0-300-19099-1. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "I am describing the mid-nineteenth-century genesis of Chinese laundry shops (yi-shan-guan in Chinese) during and after the California Gold Rush. Due to the perception of laundry as women's work and the scarcity of women in California during the Gold Rush era, the local cost for doing laundry was exorbitant. Miners, both white and Chinese, routinely shipped their laundry to Honolulu and even Hong Kong for cleaning and pressing. Even then, the price was high and the process took four months. As Iris Chang describes in The Chinese in America, Chinese entrepreneurs took advantage of this economic opportunity and created local laundry shops."

    7. Ling, Huping; Austin, Allan, eds. (2015) [2010]. "Laundries, Chinese". Asian American History and Culture: An Encyclopedia: An Encyclopedia. Abingdon, Oxon: Routledge. ISBN  978-0-7656-8077-8. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "The perception by most whites that washing was work demeaning to men, together with the absence of women on the Western frontier, made laundry a service in demand. Before the arrival of the Chinese, and with California labor in short supply and hence expensive, dirty laundry was routed to Hong Kong to be washed for $12 a dozen items, and then later to Hawaii for $8 a dozen. But Chinese entrepreneurs in San Francisco saw the potential profits in doing the washing themselves on the West Coast, and prices dropped to $5 a dozen as shipping and handling costs decreased. Soon, local laundries replaced the overseas ones."

    8. Kuo, John; Tchen, Wei, eds. (1987). "Origin of the Chinese Laundry". The Chinese Laundryman: A Study of Social Isolation. New York: New York University Press. pp.  4647. ISBN  0-8147-7859-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      This source predates the 2003 book Chinese in America and discusses how laundry was shipped from San Francisco to Hawaii which cost $8 and took six to eight weeks.

      The book notes: "But it cost money for the San Franciscans to achieve such stylishness and respectability, for the laundry bills were terrific. In order to have their linen washed, starched and ironed to the right degree of whiteness and rigidity cost them eight dollars per dozen, sometimes even more. The men didn't mind paying from three to five dollars for an order of ham and eggs or a steak, but eight dollars just to scrub and iron some pieces of shirt was an excessive price. So there were grumblings aplenty. And not only that, there was also the annoyance of waiting from six to eight weeks for one's laundry to come back each time one sent it off, for mostly they were shipped to the Hawaiian Islands to be washed. And then the shirts might return with buttons missing or collars separated."

    9. Strange USA: Historical Oddities, Roadside Rarities, Unique Eats, and Amazing Americans. San Diego, California: Portable Press. 2023. ISBN  978-1-6672-0115-3. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "3: Number of months it took prospectors to get their clean clothes back before Wah Lee opened San Francisco's first Chinese laundry in 1851. Prior to that, there were so few laundries that miners sent dirty clothes by ship to Hong Kong, where they were cleaned, pressed, and then shipped back."

    10. Blackburn, Sarah-SoonLing (2024). Exclusion and the Chinese American Story. New York: Random House Children's Books. p. 59–60. ISBN  978-0-593-56763-0. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "By the mid-1800s, some people, mostly white, had managed to get rich in the Gold Rush. ... They often thought of laundry as a "woman's job," and therefore, beneath them. Without many other options, it became pretty common for people to ship their laundry all the way to Hong Kong to be cleaned. This took nearly four months and cost about twelve dollars for a dozen shirts, which is equal to about four hundred dollars today. Still, this was way cheaper than the alternative, to send the clothes back to the East Coast of the United States to be cleaned. Remember, the Transcontinental Rail- road wasn't finished yet, so the laundry would have had to go by boat all the way around the continent or over land on a wagon. Hong Kong was the best option for people with the money to spend on laundry, and so the shipment of clothing back and forth across the Pacific Ocean became another link between the coasts of the United States and China, another lane on the highway connecting Chinese Americans between their two lands. In the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and closer to San Francisco than to Hong Kong, you will find the islands of Hawai'i. By the mid-1800s, Hawai'i had become a stopover for people and goods as they went back and forth between China and the West Coast of the continental United States. The rich people who had been shipping their laundry to Hong Kong now had a closer, more affordable option. Instead of spending twelve dollars to have a dozen shirts washed in Hong Kong, they could spend eight dollars to have a dozen shirts washed in Honolulu."

    11. Burman, Edward (2008). China: The Stealth Empire: Why the World is Not Chinese Yet. Stroud, Gloucestershire: The History Press. ISBN  978-0-7524-9619-1. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "As the gold fever cooled, there was a shift in Chinese business patterns, first from mining to laundries, and then to railway construction. The second was the result of quintessentially Chinese entrepreneurship. The Chinese noticed that people in California were prepared to pay for laundry services, which involved shipping to the East Coast, Honolulu and even Hong Kong, which were all both costly and took time. It was obviously beneficial for customers to pay $5 for a dozen shirts rather than $12, and to receive the shirts in a few days rather than up to four months."

    12. McKeown, Adam (2014). "Movement". In Armitage, David; Bashford, Alison (eds.). Pacific Histories: Ocean, Land, People. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. p.  154. ISBN  978-1-137-00163-4. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "A similar story unfolded on the Pacific coast of the Americas. North American trade with Asia and Australia grew rapidly in the 1860s and 1870s, but failed to live up to that potential in subsequent years. In the first years of the gold rush, prices for goods and labour in California were so high that laundry was famously sent from San Francisco to Hong Kong to be washed. By the end of the 1850s, California had begun shipping wheat, quicksilver, hides, lumber, oats, beans, potatoes and wool across the Pacific to Asia and the Australian"

    13. Goldstone, Lawrence (2020). On Account of Race: The Supreme Court, White Supremacy, and the Ravaging of African American Voting Rights. Berkeley, California: Counterpoint. p. 133. ISBN  978-1-64009-576-2. Retrieved 2024-07-03 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "Most of the men who arrived in California to hunt for gold came alone. Mining was dirty, dusty work, but washing grimy, mud-caked clothes was considered a "woman's job." Some of the more successful single men shipped dirty clothes to Hong Kong and waited months for their return. For the rest, since local Spanish and Native American women charged too high a price, Chinese men filled the void. Within a few years, the Chinese came to dominate the laundry business in San Francisco."

    Cunard ( talk) 09:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Thanks for the reply. You're right. Rather than doing a review, I'd like to offer an alternative hook. Since multiple university press sources state it as a fact, could we run a hook that also presents it as a historical fact? Like this:

    • ALT1: ... that The Chinese in America documents how California gold rush prospectors mailed their laundry to Hong Kong for cleaning? "While Chang's book might first appear basic in its history lessons, even the most knowledgeable Asian-American scholar will likely find little-known facts and challenging theories within. Chang tells how gold-rush miners - both Chinese and Caucasian - sent their laundry to Hong Kong for lack of local services, hence opening up a business opportunity for entrepreneurial Chinese to take over the "women's work" that Caucasians would not do. ( Hong (2003) CSM.)"
    Cited to The Christian Science Monitor in the article. @ Cunard: if you're not feeling that, let me know, and I'll strike my suggestion. If you have an improvement, let me know, and I'll review it. Rjjiii ( talk) 13:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I am reviewing this. Onceinawhile ( talk) 06:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply


    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Very good article, balanced in tone and content. ALT1 hook works well. Good to go. Onceinawhile ( talk) 17:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    First Bishops' War

    • ... that despite plans for multiple concentric invasions, the only fighting during the First Bishops' War was in north-east Scotland?
    • Source: Brooks 2005: "The only fighting was in northeast Scotland" and Kenyon & Ohlmeyer 1998a: "Between his allies inside Scotland and the concentric blows from outside the country, the king felt confident of victory."
    Moved to mainspace by CSJJ104 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    CSJJ104 ( talk) 21:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC). reply

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: I assume good faith on the references that I can't access, and it's helpful that the nominator included the relevant text. The promoter can choose the hook. SL93 ( talk) 00:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Myinsaing

    • Source: (Than Tun 1959: 122) and (Than Tun 1964: 137) provide the starting and ending dates of the siege: 25 January 1301 and 8 April 1301, respectively.
    (Harvey 1925: 77) for the amount of bribes given to the Mongols.
    Converted from a redirect by Hybernator ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 112 past nominations.

    Hybernator ( talk) 00:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Article created from a redirect one day before nomination. Can't seem to notice any issues, will AGF on the inaccessible & Burmese sources for article and hook. QPQ done. Nice work. B3251 (talk) 20:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Buangkok MRT station

    • ... that in a rare form of public protest in Singapore, eight white cardboard elephants were put up to lobby for Buangkok MRT station's opening?
    Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    ZKang123 ( talk) 01:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Got GA status 5 days ago, so the article and its hook is okay. I omitted the word "rare" because the sources don't exactly state that this type of protest is rare in Singapore. If the nominator can provide source for the claim then I will reverse it. Mehedi Abedin 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Well, according to Public demonstrations in Singapore, yes they are rare.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 14:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    @ ZKang123: Need an inline citation, because that would be WP:OR if we accept the hook without inline citation that states it is rare or any kind of indication in the source. Mehedi Abedin 14:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Other sources [1], [2]-- ZKang123 ( talk) 03:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I think you don't understand. You need a source that clearly states or indicates that "the act of putting eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening is a 'rare' form of public protest in Singapore". The two sources you provided talks about rare protest in Singapore but nothing about eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening. Mehedi Abedin 05:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Piano Quintet (Shostakovich)

    Shostakovich in 1942
    Shostakovich in 1942
    • Source: "His explanation of the change [in instrumentation] was idiosyncratic, to say the least. According to him, his change of heart had not been dominated by artistic considerations at all, but purely practical concerns. "Do you want to know why I wrote a piano part into the quartet? I did it so that I could play it myself and have a reason to go on tour to different towns and places. So now ... the Beethoven Quartet, who get to go everywhere, will have to take me with them, and I will get my chance to see the world as well!" We both laughed. "You are not serious?", I said. Shostakovich replied: "Absolutely! You are a dyed-in-the-wool stay-at-home, but I am a dyed-in-the-wool wanderer!" (Story of a Friendship: The Letters of Dmitry Shostakovich to Isaak Glikman, 1941–1975, p. xxxiii)
    5x expanded by CurryTime7-24 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

    CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 01:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • @ CurryTime7-24: Beautiful expansion! I listened to the quintet while I reviewed — such a lovely piece deserving of this amount of detail. The recent 5x is eligible, boasts more than adequate sourcing, and doesn't raise any significant copyvio issues. Some small style issues therein that I would recommend you or another editor walk through at some point. Hook-wise, I would say ALT0 is a little misleading as phrased since he initiated the piano quintet with the intention of traveling to perform the piece, not compose it. You could clarify it or go with ALT1, which is more straightforward. This should be good to go once a QPQ is provided. Spaghettifier ( talk) 20:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Let me get back to you later today. Thanks for reviewing! — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 22:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks for the QPQ – approved with a pref for ALT1. Spaghettifier ( talk) 04:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ Spaghettifier: Regarding your quibble with ALT0, how about...
      • ALT3: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich (pictured) said he composed his Piano Quintet because he wanted a reason to travel and "see the world"? Source: Story of a Friendship: The Letters of Dmitry Shostakovich to Isaak Glikman, 1941–1975, p. xxxiii

    Soviet Red Army Monument, Harbin

    Soviet Red Army Monument in Harbin
    Soviet Red Army Monument in Harbin
    Created by Toadboy123 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

    Toadboy123 ( talk) 07:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Tulbaghia acutiloba

    T. acutiloba in bloom
    T. acutiloba in bloom
    • Reviewed: Three Dikgosi Monument
    • Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer! I will be looking into completing my QPQ later today! Done!
    Created by Ornithoptera ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera ( talk) 01:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Hi Ornithoptera, review follows: article created 1 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I made a small edit that moves one sentence a little away from the source, there is some similarity left but I think on the right side of acceptability given limited options for rewording; hook is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; image is nice and freely licensed; my only query is on your QPQ, you say you'll be doing it on 7 July but the one you've linked is from 2012 by another user? - Dumelow ( talk) 14:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks Ornithoptera, looks good to me - Dumelow ( talk) 19:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Sophienburg Museum and Archives

    Moved to mainspace by Kimikel ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Kimikel ( talk) 00:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced, plagiarism free and a QPQ is done. ALT0 is cited and interesting, but (from my reading) ALT1 might not work: isn't it that the fort was named after the princess, and the museum is named after the fort? So slightly different in the hook to the article. I might be overthinking though! Lajmmoore ( talk) 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    TESCREAL

    Moved to mainspace by Bluethricecreamman ( talk), GorillaWarfare ( talk), and JoaquimCebuano ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

    GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 17:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Was a draft until today so new enough and, as I now realise, also long enough. I can't see any problems in the article around copyvio, POV or OR. Sourcing looks good overall and the hook citations appear to be sound and reliable. The hook is certainly interesting because it caught my eye immediately when I was checking my own nomination. QPQ has been done. I think this is fine and it should be promoted. PearlyGigs ( talk) 21:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Strong Oppose this nomination: An article on this subject was deleted 7 months ago because of weak sourcing. There haven't been any new sources added other than a paper by the two proponents of this theory and lots of other really weak sources. Wikipedia's job isn't to promote anti-vaxx conspiracy theories or other conspiracy theories, of which in my and other people's opinions, this is one. The only people claiming that ANYONE adheres to these multiple philosophies is Torres and Gebru. --- Avatar317 (talk) 00:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Original admin who closed AfD undeleted it after i proposed appropriate changes. the AfD never came to consensus of conspiracy theory (just u), and deleted it due to lack of WP:N. if u want to delete this again, use AfD again or bug the original admin. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Agreed that that would be a conversation for AfD, not DYK. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 01:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    The LEAD is well written and neutral, thanks for that.--- Avatar317 (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I was aware when I did the DYK review that the article is about ideologies, but I don't consider the article to be promoting those ideologies because it is neutral. The subject, in my opinion, is notable. I can't say I'm knowledgeable about TESCREAL but the article does appear to be adequately sourced. I've been reading it again and I still think the hook should be promoted. But, as I say, I am not an SME in this area so I will happily step aside if an SME is needed. Incidentally, the lead is the primary location of the hook material and its two sources. Thanks. PearlyGigs ( talk) 09:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I have to second the concerns brought up above: this article was merged in November for poor sourcing and the fact that it seemed to lean very heavily into the op-ed angle of the source it did use. To be clear, I certainly have a great personal distaste for the majority of people who run the majority of software companies, and ethical objections to a good portion of the United States' GDP (I am a diehard Linux user with all of the political implications that entails). However, the implication that "global tech elites" are engaged in a deliberate scheme to carry out eugenics (as one of the sources said from the previous version of this article), based on a collection of op-eds and blog posts where people who hate them say this a bunch of times, seems to raise some rather significant BLP issues. It is somewhat concerning to vaguely imply this in wikivoice as though it's settled fact, and then the citations are to a journal of biosemiotics. jp× g 🗯️ 02:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Posting on here same stuff as in the Talk Page section:
    A) This article was merged for lack of WP:N. If you consider it still an issue, use WP:AfD or bug the original admin who deleted, merged, than undeleted this. It isn't a valid argument to suggest that it's settled that it deserves to remerged if we've added a ton of sourcing and improved on it. Settle it by starting the process to delete it if you want.
    B) Are there reliable sources indicating that TESCREAL is a significantly derogatory epithet similar to Libtard/Chud? Marc Andreessen self-describes as TESCREAList. Many of these folks regularly ascribe to multiple of these philosophies as transhumanists, ethical altruists, long-termists, etc. Sourcing here does not necessarily imply that every TESCREAList is also a eugenicist, nor do we use WP:SYNTH to suggest that these folks are all eugenicists. There is no mention of eugenicist claims in the third section. Also, we have Big Tech as a wikipedia article along with criticism, which is also a similar "perjorative" against tech companies, and other significant "perjoratives" with negative connotations such as Democrat in Name Only and Cuckservative. These all explain what opinion writers and commentators mean, and why. This article is far more tame than many of those.
    C) That more than a dozen opinions use a term like this should be notable enough. I suspect that any sort of article about philosophies will require opinionated sources or commentaries. Effective altruism includes sourcing from Centre for Effective Altruism and by extension the Effective Altruism Forum, study centers specifically invested in effective altruism and founded by leaders, as well as many opinions.
    D) WP:OPINION applies here, especially for philosphical arguments. I looked for criticisms of TESCREAL. If more are published, we can include them. These sources are WP:SECONDARY, they contain analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Secondary sources are not necessarily independent sources.
    E) If you want to settle WP:BLP, please post in the section on WP:BLPN. We've already started and done this argument. There are multiple sources on WP:PUBLICFIGUREs here alleging that many of these folks use TESCREAL to justify their tech projects, and we make sure to use the word "allege" correctly, as per WP:OPINION, along with the correct sourcing
    Conclusion:) TESCREAL is unliked by some portion of folks on here for some reason. I'm happy to listen to arguments, but I want an argument about why we are suddenly so sensitive about criticism of Elon Musk/etc. for using human extinction for every time someone criticizes his behavior or cars or products. If you are just an elon musk/nick bostrum/etc. fan, than say it and stop throwing mud on an article that contains a criticism of philosophies that occurs often enough that we can gather 20+ sources, including 10 using the term in severe detail to directly dissect the argument that yelling extinction every 15 minutes doesn't mean you've justified your next mega project. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    information Note: In the interests of not duplicating every comment, I'll just note that there is a parallel discussion happening at Talk:TESCREAL#Neutrality (to/from which some of these comments have been copied). GorillaWarfare (she/her •  talk) 12:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Lewis Worthington Smith

    Created by SL93 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 409 past nominations.

    SL93 ( talk) 00:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Hook is interesting and appropriately sourced. Article is both long and new enough. No copyvio concerns. QPQ done. I'd wager that The Mechanism of English Style is either suitable as a redirect or an article. Great work! ~ Pbritti ( talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Stefano Manetti

    Bishop Stefano Manetti
    Bishop Stefano Manetti
    Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 105 past nominations.

    Ergo Sum 15:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Can we say "co-consecrated" instead of "consecrated" in the hook to reflect the citation more accurately? Sohom ( talk) 03:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Ok. Ergo Sum 04:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Sohom ( talk) 03:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Earwig alerts to long titles, and the hook is in the article (not all together) - in two separate places. Bruxton ( talk) 19:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    The boys of Pointe du Hoc

    Moved to mainspace by MicrobiologyMarcus ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    microbiologyMarcus petri dish· growths 20:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply


    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: All sources verified. Good to go with main or either ALT. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    2024 MLS All-Star Game

    Converted from a redirect by SounderBruce ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 237 past nominations.

    Sounder Bruce 02:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Article is newly created (converted from redirect) and long enough. QPQ has been done. The six sources in the article are reliable (ESPN) or from official press releases. But there are a couple of copyvio concerns, especially phrases like "selected by MLS commissioner Don Garber", "was created on May 13", "appeared in at least 50 percent" which can be further reworded. Personally I find the ALT1 hook more interesting, especially on its focus on the bolded article.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 02:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Accessibility of transport in London

    London Taxi with wheelchair ramp
    London Taxi with wheelchair ramp
    Moved to mainspace by Turini2 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Turini2 ( talk) 12:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Some problems need fixing. TheNuggeteer ( talk) 02:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    I've made changes and comments as required to the article. I think I'd like to focus on the positive hooks, with this photo instead? Turini2 ( talk) 11:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    London bus with wheelchair ramp
    I think I found a better hook.
    I think that is more interesting as since the TfL bus fleet has been accessible for a while. but since the LU is the oldest metro systems, its partially accessible with only a third. Also with taxis, I assume you're talking about the TfL ones since other services like Uber likely don't have the accessibility scheme in place and use a normal car. I also think something that is not mostly accessible is better and more interesting that those that are fully accessible. For example, a hook stating that the Elizabeth line is fully accessible (even including the old stations) wouldn't be interesting as new(er) systems are expected to be accessible/have step free systems. JuniperChill ( talk) 09:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Sure, I'm happy to go with that hook with a minor tweak for "step-free"- yes, I mean "London black taxi", technically Uber is not a taxi ( Vehicle for hire). I didn't want to be too negative about accessibility, but the Tube one is balanced. Could use the lead photo - unsure on caption though! Turini2 ( talk) 10:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Sorry for the late reply as I was out and about. Anyway, I don't really need to see the point of the photo if we are talking about 1/3rd of LU stations accessible since I cannot think what demonstrates it, plus its very tight for images on DYK because only one image a day (or two images a day in the event of a backlog) for the ~8 hooks. Also @ TheNuggeteer:, what do you think of the new hook as you initially reviewed it? JuniperChill ( talk) 16:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I think "only" should be removed, but other than that, it's fine. 🍗TheNugg eteer🍗 23:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    All other issues with the article are now resolved (it has a more substantive lead, fixed words etc) Turini2 ( talk) 09:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Now its time to turn the signal green now that the hook issue has been fixed. I didn't know step-free has a hyphen so I'm fine with that alongside removing the 'only'. JuniperChill ( talk) 10:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Capital Bicycle Club

    Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
    Sketch of Capital Bicycle Club uniform, 1883
    • Source: Bloom, John (2015). "The Extraordinary History of Cycling and Bike Racing in Washington, DC". In Elzey, Chris; Wiggins, David K. (eds.). DC Sports: The Nation's Capital at Play. pages 3–5
    Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 57 past nominations.

    Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 19:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks good. Nice work. AGF on hook source. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Riley Gale

    Riley Gale in 2019
    Riley Gale in 2019
    • ... that a critic compared vocalist Riley Gale (pictured) to a "rabid wolf"?
    Converted from a redirect by Kimikel ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Kimikel ( talk) 01:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Kimikel Article meets DYK standards – well-sourced, neutral, and free of plagiarism (the article is a defo must-read, pretty nice writing for a short article). The source comes from a reliable source which is... the bare minimum but yeah it works! The image supplied works as well, pretty nice quality. Original alt works. Arconning ( talk) 15:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Tomato sandwich

    Tomato sandwich
    Tomato sandwich
    5x expanded by Valereee ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 73 past nominations.

    Valereee ( talk) 17:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - See below.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Great expansion; very informative article on a local delicacy. QPQ and Earwig all good. The problem is the hook, which is misleadingly written in wikivoice. The hook needs to make clear that it is not stating an objective fact, but referring to an opinion from the cited source. — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 21:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Thanks for the review, CurryTime7-24 -- would this work:
    ALT0a: ... that the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) are so messy, enthusiasts recommend they be eaten over the kitchen sink?
    Valereee ( talk) 22:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is better, but "best sandwiches" and their suggested ideal method of eating are both opinions from the cited source. Slight adjustments to ALT0a should solve this issue. Thanks for the reply! — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 23:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    ALT0b: ... that enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be so messy that they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?
    * Pppery * it has begun... 05:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks, Pppery...maybe a slight tweak:
    ALT0c: ... that some enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be those so messy they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?
    ALT1: ... that some enthusiasts consider being so messy it needs to be eaten over the kitchen sink one of the marks of a good tomato sandwich (pictured)?
    Valereee ( talk) 13:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Ping CurryTime7-24 -- does one of these work for you? Valereee ( talk) 17:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Both ALT0c and ALT1 are dandy, thanks! Great work. — CurryTime7-24 ( talk) 18:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    John Henry Hirst

    • ... that architect John Henry Hirst was found at the bottom of the stairs at home, with a broken neck?
    • Source: "The late Mr J. H. Hirst". Western Daily Press. 8 July 1882. p. 5 col.8. "(Inquest report:) Death resulted from an accident at his residence ... Death was the result of a dislocation of the neck caused by an accidental fall downstairs".
    Moved to mainspace by Storye book ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

    Storye book ( talk) 09:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Environmental impacts of artificial intelligence

    • ... that training the model for ChatGPT used the equivalent energy footprint of driving 123 gasoline-powered passenger vehicles for a year?
    Created by Bluethricecreamman ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 03:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: awkwafaba ( 📥) 16:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bluethricecreamman: Thank you for your hard work. Please fix copyvios and sourcing issues and then we can proceed.

    Ok, i've updated the template with the corrected source for the first one (I guess I mixed up the two scientific american articles, I think they bothy say that GPT-3 releases 552 metric tons of Co2, but only one talks about the comparison to cars. Thanks for catching that! Also fixed ALT1, thanks for fixing that as well! Apologies for incorrect info, I'll try to read a bit slower with these articles. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I didn't dig to hard on that spammy site earlier, sorry. I agree that they stole from enwiki and not the other way around. All three hooks are good to go. I think ALT0 is the most compelling. awkwafaba ( 📥) 01:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Specifically, I am a little concerned that statistics-heavy topics like this, when they're directly related to buzzwordy trending topics in the news cycle, tend to be very ill-suited to being patched out from headlines. That is to say, writing the shark attack and dog attack based solely on news coverage would give the impression that these were both uncommon things that do happen every once in a while, when in reality the yearly rates are eighty versus several million. This article quotes a bunch of figures from news stories back-to-back, and there doesn't really seem to be much attempt at comparison or context. For example, there is a paper cited that projects 85-143 TWh of global power consumption from neural networks by 2027, based on a conjectural optimistic scenario where NVIDIA/TSMC transition their entire manufacturing output to A100s (all of which are installed in data centers and used for nothing but LLM inference). By comparison, this paper estimated that video gaming consumed 34 TWh/year in the United States alone in 2019; this document from the DoE says that aluminum production in the US in 2000 consumed a total of 279.2 TWh/yr. The US consumes about 16% of the world's electricity, so a very rough approximation here would give a ballpark estimate of 212.5 TWh for gaming (the US does about 2% of aluminum production worldwide, giving us around 13960 TWh yearly for global aluminum production). It also seems like there is a lot of ambiguity between training (a fixed cost, as models are only trained once) and inference (the process that happens when running the model, which typically requires billions or trillions of times less computation). I am somewhat worried about having this on the front page. jp× g 🗯️ 23:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    you are literally using us energy gov stats to WP:SYNTH a whataboutism argument… by the same logic, the criticism section of any industries environmental impact can be called misleading because theres always another more polluting industry you can point to. the comparison you suggest is “missing” is literally that training ChatGPT training took as much energy as 123 gasoline powered cars yearly footprints. and suggesting that including examples from news articles headlining the carbon footprint is a bad thing for wikipedia is inane. most articles on here use secondary souces such as news articles. and most DyK hooks are eyecatching Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 00:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    For the specific task of literally writing an encyclopedia article about a topic, I would say that answering questions like "why is this statistic relevant" or "what does this number mean" is probably its most important purpose. I gave a couple examples to illustrate what this looks like, obviously there is no reason why aluminum manufacturing in particular is more relevant than anything else. The most appropriate source here would likely be something like a textbook or monograph about electrical consumption by various industries, and how this related to environmental concerns in general. Since this is a subject of rather large significance, it is important that our writing on it be accurate, and not news. I am opposed to running stuff on the main page where vague insinuations are made by factoids of unexplained significance -- e.g. what's a terawatt-hour? what's a gram of CO2? why are some figures given in one and some as the other, and still others given in folksy derivative units like average midsize sedan gasoline consumption rates over average suburban commutes? jp× g 🗯️ 01:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Moreover, ALT0 is not supported by the source. Indeed, OpenAI's well-known sleazy refusal to be transparent about any of its operations or research means that the source cannot say that, because the source does not know. The figure claimed as fact in this hook is, in the source, carefully and explicitly presented as an approximate figure derived by estimation (it's from https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.10350 -- note the methods they are using). jp× g 🗯️ 01:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'm not arguing these bad faith arguments after this. The source link is literally right there for anyone to read. There are three links I cite with the 552 metric tons figure in the article. Most of the "environmental impacts of" are similar collections of "factoids" discussing various industry leaders. And by your logic of WP:NOTNEWS, we should remove most news articles discussing long term trends in any industry. WP:NOTNEWS specifically states no original reporting on wikipedia (we don't report the news ourselves, we cite it), and calls for enduring notability of information (we don't do an article if its just one or two articles). if you find a reputable source arguing that this is a false number or a false comparison, feel free to edit the article. I respect your work as an admin, and your experience, but this is silly. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 01:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    William P. Dole

    • Source: Kelsey, Harry (1979). "William P. Dole (1861–1865)". In Kvasnicka, Robert M.; Viola, Herman J. (eds.). The Commissioners of Indian Affairs, 1824-1977. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. pp. 139-140
    William P. Dole, 1860s
    William P. Dole, 1860s
    Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 58 past nominations.

    Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Epicgenius ( talk) 15:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Scott Jarvis (actor)

    Created by 4meter4 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 83 past nominations.

    4meter4 ( talk) 17:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • This looks good! Long enough, eligible, no evidence of copyvio, QPQ done. Hook is cited in-article. I'll have to AGF on the source itself, but otherwise everything seems good. Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 03:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Cocoa production in São Tomé and Príncipe

    Cocoa harvested in São Tomé and Príncipe
    Cocoa harvested in São Tomé and Príncipe
    • Source: Drew, Keith (6 July 2023). "How the Chocolate Islands are rediscovering their roots". BBC. Retrieved 28 June 2024. The trees thrived in the rich volcanic soil, and by the early 1900s, São Tomé and Príncipe was the biggest exporter of cacao in the world, earning it the nickname of 'The Chocolate Islands'.
    • ALT1: ... that São Tomé and Príncipe was known as "the Chocolate Islands" in the early 1900s, when it was the world's top exporter of cocoa (samples pictured)? Source: Same as above.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emmanuella Atora
    • Comment: Technically, São Tomé and Príncipe is a singular country (a Portuguese colony at the time mentioned in the hook). The hook should therefore use singular conjugations of verbs, but it sounded too odd upon my initial reading. I thus changed the verbs to their plural conjugations, as if the islands themselves are being described rather than the modern country or the former colony. I have nonetheless included my original wording as ALT1, in case the reviewer or promoter wants to compare the two.
    Created by Yue ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    Yue 🌙 07:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Hi Yue, review follows: article created 3 July and exceeds minimum length; I reworded one sentence slightly to move it further from the source, but otherwise I don't think there is an issue with overly close paraphrasing; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited (BBC); a QPQ has been provided; image is properly licensed and looks fine. I changed from single to double quotation marks in the hooks to match the article and, I think, our MOS. In terms of plurals I think English_plurals#Geographical_plurals_used_as_singular discusses this; either alternative sounds OK to me but British English tends to be a bit more flexible than US English on this (see eg. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Plurals) - Dumelow ( talk) 09:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Dumelow: Thank you for taking the time to do this review! On second thought, maybe ALT1 is the better choice because ALT0 implies that there were two exporters instead of one. Yue 🌙 02:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Highest averages method

    Improved to Good Article status by Closed Limelike Curves ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Closed Limelike Curves ( talk) 17:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: no concerns; it's a new GA. prefer ALT1 as clearer and hook-ier to a general audience. good work! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 01:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Abdul Ali Deobandi

    • ... that Abdul Ali Deobandi stipulated that women were prohibited from learning reading and writing, even at home?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Faldi00 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Faldi00 ( talk) 08:12, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports very few text similiarity commenting "violation unlikely". The hokk is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate, however, a reference is needed directly at the end of the sentence in the article. No QPQ is required for the nominator. I will approve after the reference issue is addressed. CeeGee 15:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I added the missing citing by myself because there wa no reaction in couple of days, and the issue was minor. I guess the issue was not understood. Anyway, it is now fine. Good to go. CeeGee 03:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Céline Dept

    Celine Dept in 2024
    Celine Dept in 2024
    • ... that Céline Dept (pictured) was the first Belgian YouTuber to reach 10 million subscribers?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Several newspapers in Belgium covered this fact at the time, so I think it's notable.
    Created by Howardcorn33 ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Howard🌽33 20:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - This direct quote needs to have a footnote immediately following: "At first, it was all for fun, but suddenly it went super fast and I was busy with it full time." Per DYK guidelines, the hook fact needs to also have a footnote directly following it; I would put one where the fact appears in both the lead and body.
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
    • Other problems: No - I'm a little concerned about the reliablity of TVovermind. Searching for it on the perennial sources noticeboard, there's some concern that it's a low-quality clickbait website. Is there a better source available for Dept's birthday? Her nlwiki article cites Famous Birthdays, which is blacklisted and therefore unhelpful. Otherwise, WP:DOB dictates we need to remove it or only include the year, should a source be available. (Maybe check her socials? A birthday tweet or something would be acceptable.)
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: @ Howardcorn33: Meets criteria, Earwig clear, very well-sourced, image is CC licensed, just a couple of tweaks needed. T C Memoire 14:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Comment: I have added a citation in the lead for where it mentions the DYK fact, in addition to placing a citation next to the direct quotation. As for her birth date, I have been unable to find any source, excluding TVovermind, which states her birth date in full. I have found a pinned YouTube comment in her CEMI channel which says her birthday is on December 8. [1] We know that she was 23 years old on September 26, 2023, [2] so I believe we can infer her birth date as being December 8, 1999. Would it be acceptable if I assembled these two sources to state her full birth date? ― Howard🌽33 19:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    1. ^ Pinned comment at "WIJ ORGANISEREN EEN VERJAARDAGSFEEST VOOR 8-JARIGE FAN.. (Ze Weet Van Niets..) #630" (Media notes) (in Dutch). 2023-10-15. Archived from the original on 2024-07-09. Retrieved 2024-07-09. Op welke dag ben jij jarig? 🎉 Michiel 6 april & Celine 8 december!
    2. ^ "Céline Dept becomes first Belgian to reach 10 million YouTube subscribers". The Brussels Times. 2023-09-26. Archived from the original on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04.
    @ Howardcorn33: Unfortunately not; WP:DOB addresses this point, that concensus has been reached that combining sources to deduce a birthdate is considered WP:SYNTH. I would bet that TVovermind is just ripping from Famous Birthdays. Good new, though: if you go back through her celine.dept Instagram, there's a post from December 9, 2019, where she says "yesterday was my 20th birthday", we can use that. I would drop the link for you but I'm having issues linking from Instagram on my phone, sorry! Edit: She also dropped this Tiktok with #22, so that helps alleviate any concern that she wouldn't be okay continuing to advertise her birthday. T C Memoire 09:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ TCMemoire: I have added the Instagram and TikTok posts as references and removed Tvovermind. ― Howard🌽33 14:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Howardcorn33: Thanks. Good to go now :) T C Memoire 17:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Bengisu Avcı

    • Source: "En son Hawaii’deki Ka’iwi (Molokai) parkurunu yüzmeye çalıştım,", "Her açık deniz yüzücüsünün hayali olan Okyanus 7’lisinin 5. parkurunda Portekiz Man o'War denizanasına temas edince büyük acı duyan Bengisu, parkuru tamamlayamadı." (in Turkish) [8]
    Created by CeeGee ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 221 past nominations.

    CeeGee 15:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Great work! I'm currently in Turkey and I enjoyed reading and reviewing the article, and it looks like it has no obvious issues from what I can see. I'm partial to the second hook but open to either hook being used depending on the final decision of the closing reviewer. -- Sky Harbor ( talk) 16:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    George Hunter Cary

    Created by Generalissima ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

    Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 06:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Fred Thomas (British politician)

  • Alt1... that before Fred Thomas became Member of Parliament for Plymouth Moor View, he was the Royal Marines' light heavyweight boxing champion?
  • Alt2... that before Fred Thomas became Member of Parliament for Plymouth Moor View, he learned to read and write in Arabic and studied abroad in Egypt?
  • Created by Sahaib ( talk) and Gaia Octavia Agrippa ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

    Sahaib ( talk) 13:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: I am concerned about the hook for WP:BLP focusing on the negative aspects of his career. Can you share some alternatives? AnotherColonialHistorian ( talk) 15:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Green checkmarkY Much better and more interesting! Approve Alt1. AnotherColonialHistorian ( talk) 16:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Three Dikgosi Monument

    Improved to Good Article status by 48JCL ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    48 JCL 16:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Going to review this one, since my DYK nomination has a distribution in Botswana as well. Was on DYK previously, but guidelines were changed to allow for renominations after 5 years (previous inclusion was in 2012). New enough, long enough, sourced, neutral, and plagiarism free. Hook is cited and interesting. I'm going to hold on to the confirmation temporarily to ensure whether @ 48JCL: wants to include the photograph as well, since there appears to be a caption but there is no photograph included in the template. Ornithoptera ( talk) 01:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Ornithoptera, as Botswana does not have Freedom of Panorama, we can't run this hook with an image. Schwede 66 05:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    User:Ornithoptera Thanks, but this isn't my first time here. Regards, 48 JCL 01:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    2024 Rose Bowl

    5x expanded by PCN02WPS ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 77 past nominations.

    PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 03:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General eligibility:

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Ready to go. Sahaib ( talk) 15:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Tobey (song)

    Created by Launchballer ( talk) and Dxneo ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 236 past nominations.

    Laun chba ller 09:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    @ Arconning: We have a slight problem, in that I just came across this BBC piece which confirms that it is definitely Shady Eminem takes a chainsaw to, which means "likely" won't fly. What is your opinion of the following:
    ALT1: ... that the music video for " Tobey", in which Eminem carves into his own alter ego with a chainsaw, was delayed by three days?
    ALT2: ... that the music video for " Tobey", featuring "3 generations of Detroit", features Eminem carving into his own alter ego with a chainsaw?-- Laun chba ller 13:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Launchballer Since the "likely" isn't applicable now, wouldn't it be better to omit "likely" and I'd suggest ALT1a: ... that in the music video for " Tobey", Eminem carves into his own alter ego with a chainsaw?" Though ALT1 itself is fine for me, just need your confirmation if you're okay with sticking with ALT1. Arconning ( talk) 13:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I think it might fall foul of WP:DYKFICTION on its own, hence the extra information. I'm sure a promoter can opine.-- Laun chba ller 13:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Pass for ALT1 Arconning ( talk) 13:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Richard Beale Davis, Chivers' Life of Poe

    • Source: Chivers' Life of Poe, p. 15. "The state of Chivers' manuscript would suggest that he continued to revise the work at least through 1857, the year he died."
    Improved to Good Article status by Pretzelles ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Pretzelles ( talk) 21:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Promoted to GA on 5 July. The following sentence lacks an inline citation: "In 2010, Lofaro published Southern Manuscript Sermons before 1800: A Bibliography, dedicating the work to Davis and noting him as one of four contributing editors."

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Moved to mainspace on 12 July. The synopsis doesn't need citations. For this DYK nomination, only one QPQ is needed, as the nominator had four nominations beforehand. Skyshifter talk 23:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Wandering Souls (novel)

    Created by MarchOfTheGreyhounds ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 411 past nominations.

    SL93 ( talk) 21:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply


    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Thank you for this useful article, on a subject which needs to be written about.

    • Note: The article has well over 2,000 characters (not counting the summary section, which has no citations). Therefore it is long enough. WP book-plot summaries are not usually cited, and the rest of the article is properly sourced (except see my last bullet point below)..
    • I have given the article a minor copyedit. That does not affect DYK.
    • A Very British History is not mentioned in the source you have given above, for ALT0. I have checked all the other sources in the article, and cannot find it in any of them. Am I missing something? Please tell me where the fact is cited, or add a new source for that fact to the article?

    When a source is found for the above fact, this nomination should be good to go. Storye book ( talk) 09:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Storye book I have fixed the sourcing in the article. The gal-dem source says the episode is Whatever Happened to the Boat People? and I added a further source showing which show the episode came from. SL93 ( talk) 13:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thank you for your prompt reply, SL93. That is a brilliant solution, thank you. Now all is clear in the article.
    Good to go. Storye book ( talk) 18:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Congenital anosmia

    Created by AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 21:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Why not make the hook short and snappy? Schwede 66 05:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Much better! AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 16:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Will review this. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) Looks decent and I like ALT3, but on second thought I'm probably not familiar enough with medical topics to give a good review on this. I'll leave it to someone else to give a full review. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I'll take over.
    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - ALT0 is verified. ALT1's source does not seem to mention food enjoyment. Neither of ALT2's sources from the article nor the one in Ben Cohen (businessman)'s article mention that his anosmia is congenital. Assuming that ALT3 is the same source as ALT0, it also checks out.
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: awkwafaba ( 📥) 15:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    @ AbhiSuryawanshi: I just want to make sure you saw this. awkwafaba ( 📥) 02
    12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
    @ Awkwafaba: Thanks for the ping. I would like to know if I can add more sources such as https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/01455613221111496 and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5865213/ for ALT3 -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 06:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ AbhiSuryawanshi: Both of those sources support the claim in ALT3 (as did the source from ALT0). The first one directly cites this article so that would probably be the best source. These should be added in the article.
    The statement "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it." also needs to be handled. You don't want to have the article sound ableist and violate NPOV. The new source you added explicitly counters the statement in the article by saying "People with congenital olfactory loss may not miss what they never had." In this way, the congenital form of the condition is different from the acquired form, and this should be in the article.
    You also need to find a source that says Ben Cohen has the congenital form of the condition, or remove the statement from the article. awkwafaba ( 📥) 16:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Awkwafaba: Thank you for the feedback. I have removed the sentence stating "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it" to avoid any potential ableism and to maintain a neutral point of view. Additionally, I have revised the mention of Ben Cohen to remove the reference to congenital anosmia. Although an interview mentions his anosmia from childhood, which is often considered congenital anosmia, I understand the need for a specific reference that clearly spells out "congenital anosmia." Therefore, I am removing the term "congenital" for now until I can find a source that explicitly confirms it. -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 17:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I wanted to inform you that I have now struck through ALT1 and ALT2. I would appreciate it if only ALT3 (ALT3: ... that 1 in 10,000 individuals are born without the ability to smell?) could be considered for DYK. -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 18:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    reference issues addressed suffieciently. ALT2 is rejected. Rest are fine by me, but OP wants ALT3, so let's go with that. Thanks for the hard work! awkwafaba ( 📥) 18:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thank you for the feedback and approval of the remaining ALTs. I'm fine with multiple ALTs if that works better. This is my first DYK, so I really appreciate your support and guidance! -- AbhiSuryawanshi ( talk) 19:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Cultybraggan Camp

    Cultybraggan Camp
    Cultybraggan Camp
    • ... that the area of Cultybraggan Camp (pictured) has been a royal hunting ground, a prison for fervent Nazis and the site of a underground bunker intended for use in a nuclear war?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mariesa Crow
    • Comment: I reviewed this article (nominated by Pahunkat) and advised the nominator to put it up for DYK. They haven't done so but I thought it would be a shame to miss this interesting a subject so am nominating it myself. I will complete a QPQ when I get time over the next couple of days.
    Improved to Good Article status by Pahunkat ( talk) and Shipsview ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    Llewee ( talk) 01:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Llewee, review follows: article promoted to GA on 6 July' article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck; image is properly sourced and licensed; hook fact is interesting and mentioned in the article, the latter parts check out to the sources cited, I will have to AGF on the hunting part as I can't read Latin; this should be good to go once a QPQ is provided - Dumelow ( talk) 08:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Thanks for nominating this Llewee, I've done the QPQ for you. I like the hook. The latin part was mentioned in the GA review, there's other things in the article it could be replaced by if it isn't permissible here (e.g. self-catering holiday accomodation). Pahunkat ( talk) 13:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hi Pahunkat, thanks for the QPQ. I am happy to assume in good faith that the Latin source supports what's in the article and pass this review - Dumelow ( talk) 14:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Dumelow and Llewee: the key Latin sentence seems to be "Item misse versiis Collybrathane ad venationes Regis iij' xl panes [Also sent to Collybrathane to the King's hunting expeditions, 40 loaves of bread - via Google translate]". @ Unoquha: you added the sentence to the article here, do you have a source that identifies Collybrathane and Cultybraggan? TSventon ( talk) 12:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    The placename spelling is somewhat eccentric in this old (1836) edition of the manuscript Latin (appears twice). I can't find it spelled exactly like that elsewhere. There is no reason to think of anywhere else though, in easy reach of Stirling and Perth. Apparently, the place belonged to a royal official called Reddoch or Redeheuch. Unoquha ( talk) 13:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Godzilla Minus One

    • ... that a Japanese essayist and film historian has called Godzilla Minus One a "dangerous movie"?
    Improved to Good Article status by Eiga-Kevin2 ( talk). Nominated by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    Nineteen Ninety-Four guy ( talk) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley ( talk) 20:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    McVey Fire

    Aftermath of the McVey Fire
    Aftermath of the McVey Fire
    • ... that after the McVey Fire, the United States Forest Service accidentally planted thousands of non-native trees?
    • Reviewed: Céline Dept
    • Comment: QPQ pending completed. Welcome to hook tweaks.
    Moved to mainspace by TCMemoire ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    T C Memoire 10:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Article created 4 days before nomination. Meets adequate length requirements, properly sourced inline, Earwig doesn't pick up any issues. QPQ done, and hook is good. Nice work! B3251 (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Libotonius

    Libotonius pearsoni fossil
    Libotonius pearsoni fossil
    • ... that some of the first likely Libotonius (pictured) fossils collected are lost at the Smithsonian?
    • Source: Wilson 1978 doi: 10.1139/e78-075 "Since then Pearson's collection was forwarded to, but never accessioned in, the Smithsonian Institution. and it cannot now be located.
      Wilson 1979 doi: 10.2307/1443214 "Pearson's specimens cannot be located, but they probably included specimens of the new species described here, rather than a species of the similar Erismatopterus"
    • ALT1: ... that Libotonius (pictured) are small fish, with adults ranging between just 10.6–40.0 mm (0.42–1.57 in)? Source: Wilson 1977 Page 44 L. blakeburnensis GENERAL FEATURES Summary statistics for the species are given in Table 5. The known specimens (Fig. 13) represent only a small size range, from about 30 to possibly 40 mm
      Wilson 1979 doi: 10.2307/1443214 L. pearsoni Description.-All specimens small compared with other Eocene percopsiforms, ranging from 10.6–20.8 mm (0.42–0.82 in) standard length
    Moved to mainspace by Kevmin ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 354 past nominations.

    Kev min § 15:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - ALT0 is interesting, ALT1 isn’t super thrilling for me, but I would let the readers decide.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: I like ALT0 the best, but both are cleared awkwafaba ( 📥) 02:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    2000 Cambodian coup d'état attempt

    Created by Arcahaeoindris ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    Arcahaeoindris ( talk) 15:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    Charles Tottenham, 8th Marquess of Ely

    Created by Roc0ast3r ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

     RONIN   TALK  20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC). reply

    • Hi Roc0ast3r, interesting article; review follows: article created 6 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources; hooks are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to the sources cited; a QPQ is not required. Looks fine to me, nice work - Dumelow ( talk) 07:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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