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Give me strength ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.97.111 ( talk) 21:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
I just archived an evidence free rant per WP:NOTFORUM, but the software didn't allow me to leave an edsum. It would have said "Evidence free rant removed per WP:NOTFORUM" and wanted you all to know. The archives are easily viewed using the links to the archives of the page provided. - Roxy the dog 16:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
I feel the text about macrobiotic diet is very biased and subjective. I can hear a judgemental viewpoint underpinning the whole article and towards the dietary guidelines, rather than a neutral curiosity and openness about the topic. Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be non biased and simply for the sharing of information?
Apparently it is according to the Wikipedia guidelines: Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, scientific, religious, national, sports-related, or otherwise. An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view.
This specific article seems to contradict this very guideline.
To me the macrobiotic diet sounds like a very wholesome and nourishing way to eat - eating seasonally, organically and without toxins, correct me if i'm wrong in thinking those sound are good things. It's definitely much better than the mainstream diets that most people adopt - take aways, high fat greasy foods, processed ready meals, processed non organic animal products full of hormones and antibiotics, high sugar and antibiotic filled dairy.
I feel it's very concerning that you've labelled the macrobiotic diet as a 'fad' diet and shared the info here with obvious bias and intention to influence in a certain direction. 2A02:C7C:6E40:AE00:709E:8E94:5875:601A ( talk) 19:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
I don't even know what these short hands meanThat is why you can click on them and find out. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 11:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Why isn't Christoph Wilhelm Hufeland mentioned? He published "Makrobiotik oder Die Kunst, das menschliche Leben zu verlängern" (1796), 54 years before Sagen Ishizuka was born, and 97 years before George Ohsawa!?!
Perhaps the latter 2 formalised the 'diet', but it's surprising to not see any reference to what it seems to be the origin of he term. Adler Looks Jorge ( talk) 21:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Why is this page locked? This is very unusual for such a niche diet-related page.
Anyways it's clearly written in a very negatively biased way and we should do something about it. Pages like this, that are clearly influenced by some sort of industry bias, make Wikipedia look bad. If you archive this thread you're just proving my point. Jay855a ( talk) 02:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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Give me strength ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.97.111 ( talk) 21:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
I just archived an evidence free rant per WP:NOTFORUM, but the software didn't allow me to leave an edsum. It would have said "Evidence free rant removed per WP:NOTFORUM" and wanted you all to know. The archives are easily viewed using the links to the archives of the page provided. - Roxy the dog 16:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
I feel the text about macrobiotic diet is very biased and subjective. I can hear a judgemental viewpoint underpinning the whole article and towards the dietary guidelines, rather than a neutral curiosity and openness about the topic. Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be non biased and simply for the sharing of information?
Apparently it is according to the Wikipedia guidelines: Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, scientific, religious, national, sports-related, or otherwise. An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view.
This specific article seems to contradict this very guideline.
To me the macrobiotic diet sounds like a very wholesome and nourishing way to eat - eating seasonally, organically and without toxins, correct me if i'm wrong in thinking those sound are good things. It's definitely much better than the mainstream diets that most people adopt - take aways, high fat greasy foods, processed ready meals, processed non organic animal products full of hormones and antibiotics, high sugar and antibiotic filled dairy.
I feel it's very concerning that you've labelled the macrobiotic diet as a 'fad' diet and shared the info here with obvious bias and intention to influence in a certain direction. 2A02:C7C:6E40:AE00:709E:8E94:5875:601A ( talk) 19:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
I don't even know what these short hands meanThat is why you can click on them and find out. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 11:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Why isn't Christoph Wilhelm Hufeland mentioned? He published "Makrobiotik oder Die Kunst, das menschliche Leben zu verlängern" (1796), 54 years before Sagen Ishizuka was born, and 97 years before George Ohsawa!?!
Perhaps the latter 2 formalised the 'diet', but it's surprising to not see any reference to what it seems to be the origin of he term. Adler Looks Jorge ( talk) 21:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Why is this page locked? This is very unusual for such a niche diet-related page.
Anyways it's clearly written in a very negatively biased way and we should do something about it. Pages like this, that are clearly influenced by some sort of industry bias, make Wikipedia look bad. If you archive this thread you're just proving my point. Jay855a ( talk) 02:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)