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This article has some bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.151.237.194 ( talk) 21:32, 9 February 2005 (UTC)
In rewriting the thing about the cursed stone, I deliberately avoided the word "tabled". While I agree that british articles should be written in british english, "tabled" means essentially the opposite of what you'd imagine in american english, and thus ran the risk of really confusing some poor yank reading the article. In britspeak, "tabled" means "proposed", but in yanktalk it means "postponed until another meeting". -- John Fader ( talk · contribs) 02:26, 9 March 2005 (UTC)
This really interests me and I'd like to hear more about it, especially since I actually am a Carlisle. RcSamurai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.187.122 ( talk) 06:45, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I take the quoted text is an english translation of the original Scots version? Anyone got a lead on the Scots version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.128.33.248 ( talk) 06:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
If you look in the history of this page you'll see I tried to put in a picture of the flood I took, but it didn't align quite right. I'd appreciate it if someone better than me could have a go. Or maybe you don't think there should be one? I do, as it is quite a big part of the city's recent history. Thanks. Microwave85 23:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Ive been lead to believe that Edward I held TWO parliaments there. One in 1300 and the other in 1307. Would that make Carlisle the English Capital city intead of London on those two dates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAFFA ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Google returns some web pages giving Luguvalium as the Roman name for Carlisle. Anyone have a source? -- Gil Gamesh 22:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
This article needs significant expansion. The city is of great historical importance yet some small villages in Cumbria have longer and more detailed articles. I have split transport out into a new section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.219.75 ( talk) 23:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is Carlisle included in the WikiProject Catholicism? The only reason I can think of is that it was once like many other English ciites the seat of a catholic diocese can anyone else give me a reason for its inclusion? Penrithguy 18:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
'The famous Scottish Indie Rock Outfit "102 Miles" take their name from the distance from Glasgow Central railway station to Carlisle.'
If they're so famous, why don't they have a Wikipedia page? Not that it's impossible that they're famous, but if they are somebody should get to it. But I've certainly never heard of them, so I'm doubtful — TheJames 11:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
The castle keep is well preserved but the rest of the fortress has been restored and rebuilt many times.
The west end of the cathedral was destroyed by the Scots 1645-52, not Cromwell.
The cathedral east window is a magnificent composition of flowing tracery 51 feet high. Whether it is larger than that at York Minster I'm not sure. The York east window is the largest expanse of mediaeval stained glass in the world.
As Paul Nixon appears in the residents section, there seems little point in having a special cricket section just for him.
Sir Walter Scott was married in the cathedral december 1797.
Bandalore 17:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Can a bona fide local provide a pronunciation for the town name? I live in a US Carlisle with the stress on the second syllable and I'm wondering if the real Carlisle is pronounced the same way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.56.118 ( talk) 15:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Kevin Carlyon is not, as the article claims, the "high priest" of British white witches. He is a rather eccentric attention-seeker who has for years been trying to make himself a thorn in the side of the British Wiccan community. He models his "High Priest of the Witches" claim on the title "King of the Witches" that many gave to the late Alex Sanders, who Carlyon interviewed a couple of days before his death (the interviews are distressing to listen to, as Kevin eagerly asks for more stories, ignoring the requests of the ill Sanders for a glass of water!). He is seen by the Wiccan community as ridiculous, exploitative and unethical.
Check out his site http://www.kevincarlyon.co.uk/. He's clearly trying to rub the Wiccan and Pagan community up the wrong way, adopting the title "The Living God of All Witches" "just to add to the controversy between other witches".
Cheers all, just a heads up. Fuzzypeg ★ 00:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, so you insist on keeping him and his opinion. Well, I'm just registering with you that this claim of his is found highly insulting and defamatory by other British witches. Fuzzypeg ★ 22:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Do we really need this section listing the electoral wards of Carlisle and what type of housing you find there? Frankly, it's a bit... how can I put this... boring. Famousdog ( talk) 13:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I apologise for being boring but there are similar sections on other articles about towns and cities Penrithguy ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
why does the main picture show Carlisle in relation to Scotland not the country it's actually in - England! We wouldn't show Paris in relation to Italy would we? Anon. 20:48 3/6/08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.206.242 ( talk) 19:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Could someone who lives in Carlisle please photograph the East Window of the cathedral, preferable from the inside. Note that it is the tracery that is of particular importance. The window always looks very bright in photos. A Photo taken from the other end of the choir, with flash, might show some of the stained glass as well. The glass in the tracery is medieval. Pic needs to show the entire window.
A nice photo of the organ case would be good as well, and perhaps the Choir stalls, which are 15th century, the regimental chapel, and the carvings on the capitals in the choir..... Upload to Wiki Commons, and drop me a message! Amandajm ( talk) 14:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Any chance someone could start a page about carlisle rugby football club please. I am not sure how to do this so thought I should ask. They have a website at http://www.carlislerugby.co.uk
Thank you in advance
A 23 oct 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki login2 ( talk • contribs) 17:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I was looking to add SimplyCarlisle.com to the external links section on the Carlisle page, but an editor has removed the link.
SimplyCarlisle.com is a new dirctory site and it provides free links to the websites of any business in Carlisle, making it a good old comprehensive source when searching for restaurants, estate agents etc in the city. You also don't just get an address and phone number with website links only for the one or two companies that have paid.
I would invite another editor to repost the link if they too feel it would be a worth while addition and resource.
86.136.237.63 ( talk) 19:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I can respect an editorial decision for Wikipedia (even if I don't understand it) however I'd hope you'd provide true comment on our site. To decribe our site as "commercial spam" is quite bizare, we have spent hundreds of hours qualifying sites to make sure there are hundreds of links to resources such as local weather, train times for specific local stations, cinema times direct from local cinemas, and countless clubs and societies and sites of special interest, really picking out the best of the web locally thus making it relevant. To quote an email in yesterday from the Princess Theatre in Torquay with respect to the Simply Torquay site; "Your site is lovely! easy to understand nice and clear...".
86.136.166.70 ( talk) 12:28, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
We thought our sites would have been of use to your readers, but a link to us hasn't been possible, but now we'd kindly ask these discussions be removed as they can only damage our sites name and it's people's livelihoods that are effected. Kind Regards
86.136.166.70 ( talk) 16:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't think anybody has said anything bad about any of your sites and I am sure they do an admirable job for the communities they serve. Sorry but it is not considered correct to delete stuff off a talk page, (although editors can freely delete information off their own user space talk pages). If the talk page gets too big the page may be archived at some stage in the future (and probably will be). The fact that wikipedia looks upon links to commercial directories in general as commercial spam does not denegrate the activities of your venture in any way whatsoever. Good luck with your venture 21stCenturyGreenstuff ( talk) 19:00, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I removed a couple of persons from the famous residents list. This list is now getting pretty long and the notability criteria pretty lax. I googled "Matthew Begg poet" and didn't get any hits at all. Also, Charles Shepherd has been redlinked for a year or so and still hasn't got an article about him specifically, so he's gone. I think another way we could reduce the list is by eliminating some people who were only in Carlisle temporarily, or weren't born there, like Richard Madeley... Famousdog ( talk) 08:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Where was the consensus generated for the move to Carlisle, Cumbria? I can see no consensus to move, and I suggest its moved back pending further discussion. Jenuk1985 | Talk 21:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Ozzy Osbourne? A singer-songwriter? Technically that may be true, but I doubt it is how most people would describe him. Hell-raising heavy metal singer might be nearer the mark. Skinsmoke ( talk) 19:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
In the grand scheme of things, the lead image in an article on a place as important as Carlisle may not be as important as good sourcing (there are currently only 17 references), but the first image people see in the article is still important. A dull image is off-putting, whereas an interesting one can make the read want to know more. Unfortunately, this image just doesn't do Carlisle justice. Recently an IP changed the lead image to a collage; it has merits as it incorporated several of the city's landmarks, but it probably needs to be discussed. Maybe there's a single shot on flickr that is distinctively Carlisle, or perhaps a better collage can be made? Nev1 ( talk) 19:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Definitely needs a collage! All other cities have them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:D437:700:557D:84CE:8FA:76D1 ( talk) 01:29, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
We can't have a pub be the lead image of Carlisle and collages are much more relevant these days. Could someone go round and take pictures of all the landmarks and put them into a collage like the Leeds page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:D03B:A000:FD63:B023:9D9:C324 ( talk) 10:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 02:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria → Carlisle — This is the English encyclopedia so I would have thought that the city in England should be the prime topic. Homan's Copse ( talk) 11:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Speedy close as no move. It is only a month since the last request and nothing has changed since then. Lets get back to improving articles rather than wasting time on moving articles around. Keith D ( talk) 17:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria →
Carlisle — This is by far the most common use of the word,
Carlisle was viewed
7322 times in 201009, while
Carlisle, Cumbria was viewed
9949 times in 201009.
Crouch, Swale
talk to me
My contribs 13:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
The section on Carlisle's name is vague, unsupported and in some cases inaccurate so I've replaced it.
Psammead ( talk) 20:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. I would recommend that this not be renominated again for a while unless there is something new. Vegaswikian ( talk) 05:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria → Carlisle – Carlisle is a 2000 year old city in England of significant importance, something which is agreed on by the projects it is attached to. Why it should be competing with small towns in the US? I don't believe people searching for London, Arkansas are getting directed to the London (disambiguation) page. Also anyone searching for someone with the surname: Carlisle should really be typing the forename of said person. There are far more people with the surname York than Carlisle, yet the page York is linked (rightly) to the location: York.
Another problem is the way Carlisle is split into the location and County Borough, Government District. I can imagine most people looking for Carlisle, the location, would click on City of Carlisle which in most cases is not what they are looking for.
So please can we let the current Carlisle page be the Carlisle (disambiguation) page? If5tatement ( talk) 00:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Also once again, the 'City of Carlisle' is a 30 year old government entity, it should a sub topic of the Carlisle page. I really can't understand, if that is the reason, why the Carlisle page is disambiguated to prevent confusion with the government district it is in. The places in that district which are not Carlisle have their own pages and (take it from a resident of one of them) are not refereed to as being in Carlisle by the locals. It's called north east Cumbria, the name 'City of Carlisle' is used purely in a political context. If5tatement ( talk) 11:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Put me down in support the next time this comes up. One side's editors may have been impolitic and overly hasty in resubmitting the votes above but, regardless, this page is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the other side's various editors' misunderstandings of that concept aside. (Of course I am also in support of merging the bizarre City of Carlisle page here as well, so that would clearly establish this as the primary topic in everyone's eyes.) — LlywelynII 09:23, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
The article has not mention that carlisle is a city, although the wider borough holds the city status many other in a similar position such as preston mention that they are a city. Currently as it currently only says county town which would imply that Carlisle is a town when it is not. C. 22468 Talk to me 12:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
A) Should probably just be moved to
Curse of Carlisle rather than being treated as a section of the page here.
B) Is currently ridiculously in violation of
WP:NPOV and needs a complete rewrite by someone familiar with (but not virulently partisan about) the stone controversy. —
LlywelynII 09:18, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
The Carlisle City Flag and Coat of Arms should be on this page like most cities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:D437:700:557D:84CE:8FA:76D1 ( talk) 01:41, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Does anyone know why this section keeps being deleted from the talk page? See this edit for example. Thanks -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit skirmish starting about Carlisle's population. The map at Visit Cumbria shows the county of Cumbria divided into large districts, one of which has the name "Carlisle". The map at the County Council shows the urban areas in Cumbria, one of which is also called "Carlisle". The urban area is much smaller than the wider district and therefore has a smaller population. This particular article is about the urban area so the smaller population figure is appropriate. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) The editor whose username is Z0 07:05, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
– This Carlisle is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in respect to long-term significance, it is the capital of Cumbria, a cathedral city and is the largest "official" city in England by area. It is also has around double the population of the others combined. In views [ [2]] it and its sub topics have the lions share of the views. Carlisle, Pennsylvania (named after it) is the next most notable and can probably have a specific hatnote like Worcester. As noted at Talk:Salford#Requested move 12 August 2018 a topic may have several sub topics but the broadest meaning (the settlement) should be placed at the main space, people wanting the district or the football club will find them in the link. I'd point out that Hartwell previously had a primary topic even though one with over 44 times the population and not named after it exists, also Somerton had a primary topic even though there are larger ones. People searching for Carlisle Cullen or Kitty Carlisle would not expect to find those at "Carlisle" and the surname derives from this city [3]. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 08:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
– Just noting this is at least the third time this has been discussed (see above) -- Northernhenge ( talk) 23:08, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take some years to do). Laplacemat ( talk) 10:47, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
The following sentence is a non sequitur; I've moved it here in the hope that something might be gleaned from it...
Because Carlisle meant so much to King Arthur, it is also believed that King Arthur lived out his final days at a castle in Brittany, that has since been named the Château de Kerduel, [1] situated a few miles from the Isle of Aval, thought to be the mythical island of Avalon. Bibliosporias ( talk) 11:43, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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I can't find any mention of Colin Seel who was a First Division and FA Cup Referee. Quite a celebratory in the 1970s. He grew up in Carlisle and still lives there. I think he deserves a mention. Cheryl Higham 77.102.117.160 ( talk) 21:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I know the article has cited a source but that source is wrong. The theatre was situated towards the northern end of Lowther Street opposite what is now the entrance to The Lanes Car Park. The former Littlewoods department store (now part of the M&S store) was a cinema. Penrithguy ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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This article has some bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.151.237.194 ( talk) 21:32, 9 February 2005 (UTC)
In rewriting the thing about the cursed stone, I deliberately avoided the word "tabled". While I agree that british articles should be written in british english, "tabled" means essentially the opposite of what you'd imagine in american english, and thus ran the risk of really confusing some poor yank reading the article. In britspeak, "tabled" means "proposed", but in yanktalk it means "postponed until another meeting". -- John Fader ( talk · contribs) 02:26, 9 March 2005 (UTC)
This really interests me and I'd like to hear more about it, especially since I actually am a Carlisle. RcSamurai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.187.122 ( talk) 06:45, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I take the quoted text is an english translation of the original Scots version? Anyone got a lead on the Scots version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.128.33.248 ( talk) 06:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
If you look in the history of this page you'll see I tried to put in a picture of the flood I took, but it didn't align quite right. I'd appreciate it if someone better than me could have a go. Or maybe you don't think there should be one? I do, as it is quite a big part of the city's recent history. Thanks. Microwave85 23:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Ive been lead to believe that Edward I held TWO parliaments there. One in 1300 and the other in 1307. Would that make Carlisle the English Capital city intead of London on those two dates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAFFA ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Google returns some web pages giving Luguvalium as the Roman name for Carlisle. Anyone have a source? -- Gil Gamesh 22:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
This article needs significant expansion. The city is of great historical importance yet some small villages in Cumbria have longer and more detailed articles. I have split transport out into a new section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.219.75 ( talk) 23:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is Carlisle included in the WikiProject Catholicism? The only reason I can think of is that it was once like many other English ciites the seat of a catholic diocese can anyone else give me a reason for its inclusion? Penrithguy 18:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
'The famous Scottish Indie Rock Outfit "102 Miles" take their name from the distance from Glasgow Central railway station to Carlisle.'
If they're so famous, why don't they have a Wikipedia page? Not that it's impossible that they're famous, but if they are somebody should get to it. But I've certainly never heard of them, so I'm doubtful — TheJames 11:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
The castle keep is well preserved but the rest of the fortress has been restored and rebuilt many times.
The west end of the cathedral was destroyed by the Scots 1645-52, not Cromwell.
The cathedral east window is a magnificent composition of flowing tracery 51 feet high. Whether it is larger than that at York Minster I'm not sure. The York east window is the largest expanse of mediaeval stained glass in the world.
As Paul Nixon appears in the residents section, there seems little point in having a special cricket section just for him.
Sir Walter Scott was married in the cathedral december 1797.
Bandalore 17:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Can a bona fide local provide a pronunciation for the town name? I live in a US Carlisle with the stress on the second syllable and I'm wondering if the real Carlisle is pronounced the same way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.56.118 ( talk) 15:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Kevin Carlyon is not, as the article claims, the "high priest" of British white witches. He is a rather eccentric attention-seeker who has for years been trying to make himself a thorn in the side of the British Wiccan community. He models his "High Priest of the Witches" claim on the title "King of the Witches" that many gave to the late Alex Sanders, who Carlyon interviewed a couple of days before his death (the interviews are distressing to listen to, as Kevin eagerly asks for more stories, ignoring the requests of the ill Sanders for a glass of water!). He is seen by the Wiccan community as ridiculous, exploitative and unethical.
Check out his site http://www.kevincarlyon.co.uk/. He's clearly trying to rub the Wiccan and Pagan community up the wrong way, adopting the title "The Living God of All Witches" "just to add to the controversy between other witches".
Cheers all, just a heads up. Fuzzypeg ★ 00:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, so you insist on keeping him and his opinion. Well, I'm just registering with you that this claim of his is found highly insulting and defamatory by other British witches. Fuzzypeg ★ 22:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Do we really need this section listing the electoral wards of Carlisle and what type of housing you find there? Frankly, it's a bit... how can I put this... boring. Famousdog ( talk) 13:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I apologise for being boring but there are similar sections on other articles about towns and cities Penrithguy ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
why does the main picture show Carlisle in relation to Scotland not the country it's actually in - England! We wouldn't show Paris in relation to Italy would we? Anon. 20:48 3/6/08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.206.242 ( talk) 19:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Could someone who lives in Carlisle please photograph the East Window of the cathedral, preferable from the inside. Note that it is the tracery that is of particular importance. The window always looks very bright in photos. A Photo taken from the other end of the choir, with flash, might show some of the stained glass as well. The glass in the tracery is medieval. Pic needs to show the entire window.
A nice photo of the organ case would be good as well, and perhaps the Choir stalls, which are 15th century, the regimental chapel, and the carvings on the capitals in the choir..... Upload to Wiki Commons, and drop me a message! Amandajm ( talk) 14:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Any chance someone could start a page about carlisle rugby football club please. I am not sure how to do this so thought I should ask. They have a website at http://www.carlislerugby.co.uk
Thank you in advance
A 23 oct 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki login2 ( talk • contribs) 17:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I was looking to add SimplyCarlisle.com to the external links section on the Carlisle page, but an editor has removed the link.
SimplyCarlisle.com is a new dirctory site and it provides free links to the websites of any business in Carlisle, making it a good old comprehensive source when searching for restaurants, estate agents etc in the city. You also don't just get an address and phone number with website links only for the one or two companies that have paid.
I would invite another editor to repost the link if they too feel it would be a worth while addition and resource.
86.136.237.63 ( talk) 19:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I can respect an editorial decision for Wikipedia (even if I don't understand it) however I'd hope you'd provide true comment on our site. To decribe our site as "commercial spam" is quite bizare, we have spent hundreds of hours qualifying sites to make sure there are hundreds of links to resources such as local weather, train times for specific local stations, cinema times direct from local cinemas, and countless clubs and societies and sites of special interest, really picking out the best of the web locally thus making it relevant. To quote an email in yesterday from the Princess Theatre in Torquay with respect to the Simply Torquay site; "Your site is lovely! easy to understand nice and clear...".
86.136.166.70 ( talk) 12:28, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
We thought our sites would have been of use to your readers, but a link to us hasn't been possible, but now we'd kindly ask these discussions be removed as they can only damage our sites name and it's people's livelihoods that are effected. Kind Regards
86.136.166.70 ( talk) 16:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't think anybody has said anything bad about any of your sites and I am sure they do an admirable job for the communities they serve. Sorry but it is not considered correct to delete stuff off a talk page, (although editors can freely delete information off their own user space talk pages). If the talk page gets too big the page may be archived at some stage in the future (and probably will be). The fact that wikipedia looks upon links to commercial directories in general as commercial spam does not denegrate the activities of your venture in any way whatsoever. Good luck with your venture 21stCenturyGreenstuff ( talk) 19:00, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I removed a couple of persons from the famous residents list. This list is now getting pretty long and the notability criteria pretty lax. I googled "Matthew Begg poet" and didn't get any hits at all. Also, Charles Shepherd has been redlinked for a year or so and still hasn't got an article about him specifically, so he's gone. I think another way we could reduce the list is by eliminating some people who were only in Carlisle temporarily, or weren't born there, like Richard Madeley... Famousdog ( talk) 08:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Where was the consensus generated for the move to Carlisle, Cumbria? I can see no consensus to move, and I suggest its moved back pending further discussion. Jenuk1985 | Talk 21:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Ozzy Osbourne? A singer-songwriter? Technically that may be true, but I doubt it is how most people would describe him. Hell-raising heavy metal singer might be nearer the mark. Skinsmoke ( talk) 19:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
In the grand scheme of things, the lead image in an article on a place as important as Carlisle may not be as important as good sourcing (there are currently only 17 references), but the first image people see in the article is still important. A dull image is off-putting, whereas an interesting one can make the read want to know more. Unfortunately, this image just doesn't do Carlisle justice. Recently an IP changed the lead image to a collage; it has merits as it incorporated several of the city's landmarks, but it probably needs to be discussed. Maybe there's a single shot on flickr that is distinctively Carlisle, or perhaps a better collage can be made? Nev1 ( talk) 19:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Definitely needs a collage! All other cities have them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:D437:700:557D:84CE:8FA:76D1 ( talk) 01:29, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
We can't have a pub be the lead image of Carlisle and collages are much more relevant these days. Could someone go round and take pictures of all the landmarks and put them into a collage like the Leeds page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:D03B:A000:FD63:B023:9D9:C324 ( talk) 10:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 02:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria → Carlisle — This is the English encyclopedia so I would have thought that the city in England should be the prime topic. Homan's Copse ( talk) 11:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Speedy close as no move. It is only a month since the last request and nothing has changed since then. Lets get back to improving articles rather than wasting time on moving articles around. Keith D ( talk) 17:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria →
Carlisle — This is by far the most common use of the word,
Carlisle was viewed
7322 times in 201009, while
Carlisle, Cumbria was viewed
9949 times in 201009.
Crouch, Swale
talk to me
My contribs 13:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
The section on Carlisle's name is vague, unsupported and in some cases inaccurate so I've replaced it.
Psammead ( talk) 20:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. I would recommend that this not be renominated again for a while unless there is something new. Vegaswikian ( talk) 05:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Carlisle, Cumbria → Carlisle – Carlisle is a 2000 year old city in England of significant importance, something which is agreed on by the projects it is attached to. Why it should be competing with small towns in the US? I don't believe people searching for London, Arkansas are getting directed to the London (disambiguation) page. Also anyone searching for someone with the surname: Carlisle should really be typing the forename of said person. There are far more people with the surname York than Carlisle, yet the page York is linked (rightly) to the location: York.
Another problem is the way Carlisle is split into the location and County Borough, Government District. I can imagine most people looking for Carlisle, the location, would click on City of Carlisle which in most cases is not what they are looking for.
So please can we let the current Carlisle page be the Carlisle (disambiguation) page? If5tatement ( talk) 00:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Also once again, the 'City of Carlisle' is a 30 year old government entity, it should a sub topic of the Carlisle page. I really can't understand, if that is the reason, why the Carlisle page is disambiguated to prevent confusion with the government district it is in. The places in that district which are not Carlisle have their own pages and (take it from a resident of one of them) are not refereed to as being in Carlisle by the locals. It's called north east Cumbria, the name 'City of Carlisle' is used purely in a political context. If5tatement ( talk) 11:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Put me down in support the next time this comes up. One side's editors may have been impolitic and overly hasty in resubmitting the votes above but, regardless, this page is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the other side's various editors' misunderstandings of that concept aside. (Of course I am also in support of merging the bizarre City of Carlisle page here as well, so that would clearly establish this as the primary topic in everyone's eyes.) — LlywelynII 09:23, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
The article has not mention that carlisle is a city, although the wider borough holds the city status many other in a similar position such as preston mention that they are a city. Currently as it currently only says county town which would imply that Carlisle is a town when it is not. C. 22468 Talk to me 12:54, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
A) Should probably just be moved to
Curse of Carlisle rather than being treated as a section of the page here.
B) Is currently ridiculously in violation of
WP:NPOV and needs a complete rewrite by someone familiar with (but not virulently partisan about) the stone controversy. —
LlywelynII 09:18, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
The Carlisle City Flag and Coat of Arms should be on this page like most cities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:D437:700:557D:84CE:8FA:76D1 ( talk) 01:41, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Does anyone know why this section keeps being deleted from the talk page? See this edit for example. Thanks -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:28, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit skirmish starting about Carlisle's population. The map at Visit Cumbria shows the county of Cumbria divided into large districts, one of which has the name "Carlisle". The map at the County Council shows the urban areas in Cumbria, one of which is also called "Carlisle". The urban area is much smaller than the wider district and therefore has a smaller population. This particular article is about the urban area so the smaller population figure is appropriate. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) The editor whose username is Z0 07:05, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
– This Carlisle is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in respect to long-term significance, it is the capital of Cumbria, a cathedral city and is the largest "official" city in England by area. It is also has around double the population of the others combined. In views [ [2]] it and its sub topics have the lions share of the views. Carlisle, Pennsylvania (named after it) is the next most notable and can probably have a specific hatnote like Worcester. As noted at Talk:Salford#Requested move 12 August 2018 a topic may have several sub topics but the broadest meaning (the settlement) should be placed at the main space, people wanting the district or the football club will find them in the link. I'd point out that Hartwell previously had a primary topic even though one with over 44 times the population and not named after it exists, also Somerton had a primary topic even though there are larger ones. People searching for Carlisle Cullen or Kitty Carlisle would not expect to find those at "Carlisle" and the surname derives from this city [3]. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 08:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
– Just noting this is at least the third time this has been discussed (see above) -- Northernhenge ( talk) 23:08, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take some years to do). Laplacemat ( talk) 10:47, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
The following sentence is a non sequitur; I've moved it here in the hope that something might be gleaned from it...
Because Carlisle meant so much to King Arthur, it is also believed that King Arthur lived out his final days at a castle in Brittany, that has since been named the Château de Kerduel, [1] situated a few miles from the Isle of Aval, thought to be the mythical island of Avalon. Bibliosporias ( talk) 11:43, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
References
I can't find any mention of Colin Seel who was a First Division and FA Cup Referee. Quite a celebratory in the 1970s. He grew up in Carlisle and still lives there. I think he deserves a mention. Cheryl Higham 77.102.117.160 ( talk) 21:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I know the article has cited a source but that source is wrong. The theatre was situated towards the northern end of Lowther Street opposite what is now the entrance to The Lanes Car Park. The former Littlewoods department store (now part of the M&S store) was a cinema. Penrithguy ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)