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How about news on Dover's future plans, the Dover Harbour Board redevelopment? There has been a lot of local press and is pretty major. There is of course the long-running St. James's area redevelopment plans that should get a mention. IJMacD 22:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Though 198.54.202.242 vandalised a couple of times earlier in the day, his/her final edit did actually identify an inaccuracy in the article: there does now appear to be a regular Dover-Boulogne ferry again. Will amend the article to reflect this. Matthewmayer 19:03, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I have moved this from the article cause I'm not sure what to do with it.
Dover's local radio station came to air as Neptune Radio on the 29th September 1997 at 7am after closing as a month long trial at 3am the same morning. The trial station was known as "The Sound" which broadcast both to White Cliffs Country (Dover) and Shepway (Folkestone) as two stations "Shepway Sound" and "White Cliffs Sound" throughout the 1990's. The station was due to come on air as "The Sound" however changed it's name to Neptune Radio due to it's closeness to the sea. The station actually has it's roots in the 1970's as pirate radio station Channel Radio, run by Dovorian Eddie Austin. Austin also was one of the founder members of Invicta FM, Kent's commercial wide station and also worked on Radio Caroline. He got numerous fines but vowed to keep fighting until the town had it's own licence. Channel Radio broadcast only over the Dover area. The station came on air in 1997 broadcasting from one of the oldest buildings in Dover, next door to the Kent Messenger offices at 7 Church Street, near to the town's Market Square being a central location. The station has it's own mascot "King Neptune" and was a truly local station with attendance at numerous local events. It broadcast on 96.4 FM (Folkestone) and 106.8FM (Dover) and won UK Radio Station of the Year twice in 1999 and 2000. It's successful format was later applied to it's sister stations Arrow in Hastings and Sovereign Radio in Eastbourne when the station was bought by Radio Investments limited. A group from Neptune Radio also applied for the Ashford licence under the name Ashford FM spearheaded by Mark Carter, however they did not gain the licence. In 2001 the Kent Messenger bought Neptune Radio and moved the station not long after from Dover to Folkestone however still using the Dover offices for news reports. In 2003 the station was a rebranded as KM-fm Dover & Folkestone, the end of the era of local radio as from now on programming was networked with other KM-fm's with news piped in from Canterbury. Eddie Austin now lives in Malaysia. Recently the KM-fm offices/studios and Kent Messenger Offices in Dover moved to the old Dover Express offices in the High Street, Dover with a KM-fm sign, so perhaps there are going to be studios in Dover again with local programming. However Neptune Radio was a successful station reaching 30,000 people a week. KM-fm however still has yet to prove it can be as good as Neptune Radio.
This is rather POV and looks like it has been copied from somewhere. perhaps it should be NPOV ed and put in its own article somewhere. I dont see how this much detail about a radio station can be justified on the main dover page. Any thoughts anyone. G-Man 20:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dover is not the clossest point to france, i belever St margrate at Cliff is closser. it is the closest port. but to say its the closest POINT is misleading. as of now, im not quite sure what is the closest point. tooto 2 July 2005 13:51 (UTC)
I've begun cleaning this article up (wikifying, moving images for better distribution, etc.), but a lot more is needed. Especially in need is the History section (and below, to a lesser extent).
The history section jumps rather alarmingly from the Romans to post Conquest times. Did nothing interesting happen there?
Cleaned up and added the essential info to the infobox.
The population counts from the census read as follows:
K91900 Dover Urban Area 39,078 K91901 Dover 34,087 K91902 Whitfield 4,991
I chose the urban count, please change if that isn't correct. Hjbotha 14:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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If not purely mischievous, the comment "It is also famous for its large population of Homosexuals" is any rate bizarre! Grubstreet 11:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
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I did not understand why there was a long list of blogs; and many of the - too many IMO -references just repeated each other: never mind the quality, feel the width idea, I guess!
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Peter Shearan ( talk) 15:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
what is this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249194/Dover-symbol-British-sovereignty-sold-French-help-reduce-debt.html#ixzz0etxiHFeP I passed through this on the internet a few times and I'm not sure if it's true or not Shiftadot ( talk) 15:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move or rename either page, though the possibility for a change in policy resulting from an ongoing discussion at the Village Pump remains. — Soap — 12:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) With valid points on both sides, there is simply too much opposition. Change to any current situation needs a degree of agreement, which is not showing here. It is clear that this requested move has failed to gain consensus in any form. Therefor, I'm closing this discussion as no consensus to move. — Edokter • Talk • 13:05, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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Dover → Dover, Kent — There are several meanings of Dover besides the British city. For example, there is Dover, Delaware, which is the state capital of the U.S. state of Delaware and has a population similar to that of Dover, England. There is also Dover (district), which serves as the government district around the British city. In addition, Dover is also used as the name for several other places in multiple countries, as a surname, and as the name of a few companies and objects. Dough 48 72 01:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
To use arguably the best known city in the world as an extreme illustrative example, if the capital of Texas was moved from Austin to Paris, Texas, then Paris would have to be moved to Paris, France to make room for Paris (disambiguation) at Paris. The idea that some use of a term could be primary when another use of the same name is a capital of a U.S. state is preposterous. Even Lincoln is a dab page because of the capital of Nebraska despite Lincoln being the surname of probably the most famous of all U.S. Presidents. You simply can't claim primary topic of a term when another use of that term is anywhere near as a big as is Dover, Delaware a use of "Dover".
In the end the page view counts speak volumes.
There is no primary topic for "Dover"; the dab page must be at Dover. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 03:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Remember also that the views for Dover, Delaware include those (many, I suspect) who got there by looking for...Dover, Delaware. The state name is not just a disambiguator. It is the way many people refer to the place. -- Mhockey ( talk) 13:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
The seven day are up. The results appear to be:
Based on additional comments not preceded by a bold !vote term, the consensus appears to be further strengthened in favour of 'oppose'.
The consensus would therefore appear to be that Dover, in England has primacy by consensus. An admin will be along shortly to formally evaluate and close this debate.-- Kudpung ( talk) 22:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
A proposal to align the category name with the article name has prompted some editors to reopen last October's discussion. The discussion on the category is at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_23#Category:Town_of_Dover. -- Mhockey ( talk) 18:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Dover Calais ferry is currently a redirect to P&O Ferries#Dover – Calais. As there are also other companies operating ferries on this route I don't think the current target is appropriate. You are invited to the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 September 28#Dover Calais ferry regarding what would be better. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:40, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
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The article notes that the name, Dover, was in use by the time of Shakespeare but ignores the origin of the name from people who worked catching pigeons and collecting eggs on the dover cliffs. Surely there must be some record of this historically important economic activity. - Fartherred ( talk) 02:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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flag is same with Dover's Police, but you remove the Dover Police Crest, you zoom in on it, you simply take the Dover Crest, and you put it where the police Crest was, some others use a very white alternative flag with the Crest and some colored border-lines up and down only — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:4114:C800:2871:4943:BCD5:341C ( talk) 01:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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In my opinion, the picture before the end of the 'Economy' section in the article needs a caption as in my opinion it looks strange without one.
Should a mention of this be included in the article? The link [1] might help. SovalValtos ( talk) 02:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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How about news on Dover's future plans, the Dover Harbour Board redevelopment? There has been a lot of local press and is pretty major. There is of course the long-running St. James's area redevelopment plans that should get a mention. IJMacD 22:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Though 198.54.202.242 vandalised a couple of times earlier in the day, his/her final edit did actually identify an inaccuracy in the article: there does now appear to be a regular Dover-Boulogne ferry again. Will amend the article to reflect this. Matthewmayer 19:03, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I have moved this from the article cause I'm not sure what to do with it.
Dover's local radio station came to air as Neptune Radio on the 29th September 1997 at 7am after closing as a month long trial at 3am the same morning. The trial station was known as "The Sound" which broadcast both to White Cliffs Country (Dover) and Shepway (Folkestone) as two stations "Shepway Sound" and "White Cliffs Sound" throughout the 1990's. The station was due to come on air as "The Sound" however changed it's name to Neptune Radio due to it's closeness to the sea. The station actually has it's roots in the 1970's as pirate radio station Channel Radio, run by Dovorian Eddie Austin. Austin also was one of the founder members of Invicta FM, Kent's commercial wide station and also worked on Radio Caroline. He got numerous fines but vowed to keep fighting until the town had it's own licence. Channel Radio broadcast only over the Dover area. The station came on air in 1997 broadcasting from one of the oldest buildings in Dover, next door to the Kent Messenger offices at 7 Church Street, near to the town's Market Square being a central location. The station has it's own mascot "King Neptune" and was a truly local station with attendance at numerous local events. It broadcast on 96.4 FM (Folkestone) and 106.8FM (Dover) and won UK Radio Station of the Year twice in 1999 and 2000. It's successful format was later applied to it's sister stations Arrow in Hastings and Sovereign Radio in Eastbourne when the station was bought by Radio Investments limited. A group from Neptune Radio also applied for the Ashford licence under the name Ashford FM spearheaded by Mark Carter, however they did not gain the licence. In 2001 the Kent Messenger bought Neptune Radio and moved the station not long after from Dover to Folkestone however still using the Dover offices for news reports. In 2003 the station was a rebranded as KM-fm Dover & Folkestone, the end of the era of local radio as from now on programming was networked with other KM-fm's with news piped in from Canterbury. Eddie Austin now lives in Malaysia. Recently the KM-fm offices/studios and Kent Messenger Offices in Dover moved to the old Dover Express offices in the High Street, Dover with a KM-fm sign, so perhaps there are going to be studios in Dover again with local programming. However Neptune Radio was a successful station reaching 30,000 people a week. KM-fm however still has yet to prove it can be as good as Neptune Radio.
This is rather POV and looks like it has been copied from somewhere. perhaps it should be NPOV ed and put in its own article somewhere. I dont see how this much detail about a radio station can be justified on the main dover page. Any thoughts anyone. G-Man 20:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dover is not the clossest point to france, i belever St margrate at Cliff is closser. it is the closest port. but to say its the closest POINT is misleading. as of now, im not quite sure what is the closest point. tooto 2 July 2005 13:51 (UTC)
I've begun cleaning this article up (wikifying, moving images for better distribution, etc.), but a lot more is needed. Especially in need is the History section (and below, to a lesser extent).
The history section jumps rather alarmingly from the Romans to post Conquest times. Did nothing interesting happen there?
Cleaned up and added the essential info to the infobox.
The population counts from the census read as follows:
K91900 Dover Urban Area 39,078 K91901 Dover 34,087 K91902 Whitfield 4,991
I chose the urban count, please change if that isn't correct. Hjbotha 14:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
As mentioned on the Project Kent page, I am trying out an idea on a collaboration technique.
I have created a subpage which contains a section for every section on the main Dover article page. This makes it easier to keep track of specific comments and suggestions, whilst keeping the main talk page free of clutter.
To start with, I would suggest reading through the article, making comments as you go. Hopefully, a few people will voice an opinion, and we can start improving the article. At this stage, the collaboration page is useful for editors working on a particular section.
I have used the technique before, but this will be the first time it has had its own page. I welcome any comments or suggestions at Template talk:Collaborate. MortimerCat 16:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
If not purely mischievous, the comment "It is also famous for its large population of Homosexuals" is any rate bizarre! Grubstreet 11:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I have begun the rewriting of this article. Originally it was almost completely a series of lists, against Wiki polcy. So far I have:
I did not understand why there was a long list of blogs; and many of the - too many IMO -references just repeated each other: never mind the quality, feel the width idea, I guess!
Please bear with me while I complete the task Peter Shearan ( talk) 10:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Peter Shearan ( talk) 15:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
what is this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249194/Dover-symbol-British-sovereignty-sold-French-help-reduce-debt.html#ixzz0etxiHFeP I passed through this on the internet a few times and I'm not sure if it's true or not Shiftadot ( talk) 15:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move or rename either page, though the possibility for a change in policy resulting from an ongoing discussion at the Village Pump remains. — Soap — 12:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) With valid points on both sides, there is simply too much opposition. Change to any current situation needs a degree of agreement, which is not showing here. It is clear that this requested move has failed to gain consensus in any form. Therefor, I'm closing this discussion as no consensus to move. — Edokter • Talk • 13:05, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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Dover → Dover, Kent — There are several meanings of Dover besides the British city. For example, there is Dover, Delaware, which is the state capital of the U.S. state of Delaware and has a population similar to that of Dover, England. There is also Dover (district), which serves as the government district around the British city. In addition, Dover is also used as the name for several other places in multiple countries, as a surname, and as the name of a few companies and objects. Dough 48 72 01:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
To use arguably the best known city in the world as an extreme illustrative example, if the capital of Texas was moved from Austin to Paris, Texas, then Paris would have to be moved to Paris, France to make room for Paris (disambiguation) at Paris. The idea that some use of a term could be primary when another use of the same name is a capital of a U.S. state is preposterous. Even Lincoln is a dab page because of the capital of Nebraska despite Lincoln being the surname of probably the most famous of all U.S. Presidents. You simply can't claim primary topic of a term when another use of that term is anywhere near as a big as is Dover, Delaware a use of "Dover".
In the end the page view counts speak volumes.
There is no primary topic for "Dover"; the dab page must be at Dover. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 03:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Remember also that the views for Dover, Delaware include those (many, I suspect) who got there by looking for...Dover, Delaware. The state name is not just a disambiguator. It is the way many people refer to the place. -- Mhockey ( talk) 13:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
The seven day are up. The results appear to be:
Based on additional comments not preceded by a bold !vote term, the consensus appears to be further strengthened in favour of 'oppose'.
The consensus would therefore appear to be that Dover, in England has primacy by consensus. An admin will be along shortly to formally evaluate and close this debate.-- Kudpung ( talk) 22:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
A proposal to align the category name with the article name has prompted some editors to reopen last October's discussion. The discussion on the category is at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_23#Category:Town_of_Dover. -- Mhockey ( talk) 18:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Dover Calais ferry is currently a redirect to P&O Ferries#Dover – Calais. As there are also other companies operating ferries on this route I don't think the current target is appropriate. You are invited to the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 September 28#Dover Calais ferry regarding what would be better. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:40, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
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The article notes that the name, Dover, was in use by the time of Shakespeare but ignores the origin of the name from people who worked catching pigeons and collecting eggs on the dover cliffs. Surely there must be some record of this historically important economic activity. - Fartherred ( talk) 02:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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In my opinion, the picture before the end of the 'Economy' section in the article needs a caption as in my opinion it looks strange without one.
Should a mention of this be included in the article? The link [1] might help. SovalValtos ( talk) 02:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)