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Although Andrew Tate has been accused of promoting harmful and discriminatory attitudes towards women, it is important to note that he has not explicitly described himself as a misogynist. While some of his comments and statements have been widely criticized as promoting misogynistic beliefs, it is important to accurately represent his self-identification. 173.176.93.201 ( talk) 18:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Per the cited source, "“You can’t be responsible for a dog if it doesn’t obey you.” He has said he would attack a woman who accused him of cheating and described himself as “absolutely a misogynist.”"■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 18:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Am I sexist? Yes. Why? Because of my experiences in the world." However, this is where the issue arises: two people have watched the same clip, and one got the impression that he was being sarcastic and the other didn't. This is where consensus comes into play. If more reliable sources characterize him as being sincere with that quote, then the consensus is that he was being sincere, and we can therefore include "self-described misogynist" as a genuine label. — Askarion ✉ 17:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
this biased individual is acting in bad faith– do not cast aspersions. Please edit your comment to strike that remark. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 20:02, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
As someone who believes in fairness no matter their gender, sexual orientation, race, disability and others, I think it would be wise to not judge a book by its cover. Andrew Tate definitely said some socially-penetrating comments that are without a doubt insensitive and controversial. That we can all agree on. Is Andrew Tate a misogynist? Well, many news outlets have picked up on the fact that his material is. There seems to be consensus. Albeit, Andrew Tate did NOT describe himself as a misogynist directly. This is what seems to be bothering many people in this thread. I ask the editors that may be to change the line to "widely described as a misogynist", as it is more factual and also does not change the overall perception of Andrew Tate's dangerous rhetoric. FriendlyNeighborhoodDemocraticSocialist ( talk) 13:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Here is the source Tanline666 ( talk) 20:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Can someone please update: "...sparking online rumors on if he has lung cancer." to: "...sparking online rumors related to whether he has lung cancer." BurntSynapse ( talk) 19:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
He became Christian again either in 2019 or 2020 not in early 2022 Truthwrites ( talk) 17:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Tate's claims of competing and winning in chess tournaments at the age of five has come under suspicion of falsehood. This YouTube video depicts someone contacting the Indiana Chess Association. The association and its publicly available information directly contradicts Tate's statements. I would like to recommend that the line about "playing in adult tournaments as a child" be either removed from the page, or amended to reflect the possibly false nature of the statements and evidence supporting the falsehood. 2607:FEA8:4502:5E00:E005:AD41:7F47:A6F3 ( talk) 10:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to make some minor edits to andrew tates page Fahad Imttiyaz ( talk) 00:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
> On December 29, 2022, Tate and his brother, Tristan...
this line is confusing as it refers to Andrew Tate by last name then Tristan Tate immediately afterwards by first name.
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> On December 29, 2022, Andrew and his brother, Tristan...
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Andrew became a Muslim in 2022 77.163.182.87 ( talk) 23:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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The correct date of birth is 14 of December 1986. Please check his official page and correct it. Thank you! 2A02:A58:8249:3E00:F020:BF6F:D5FB:E2DE ( talk) 13:07, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Emory Tate III Was Born An Orthodox And In 2022 He Accepted Islam And Became A Muslim 2404:3100:1C01:8BD3:1:0:C956:9C2B ( talk) 09:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Stance should be Muslim 82.31.191.51 ( talk) 21:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
He announced that his new name is "Abu Andrew Tate", after converting to Islam. 103.169.65.150 ( talk) 03:34, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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change "self-proclaimed misogynist." to "traditionalist" 92.6.9.122 ( talk) 15:15, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
He said quite the opposite about himself. Rewardesjango ( talk) 17:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
A self-described misogynist," if consensus calls for it; though I personally support the status quo of including the "self-described misogynist" claim because it's supported by the sourcing. Even if Tate said the words in 2021, the sources that the article cites are much more recent, so they can still count unless Tate is reported to have said otherwise by other reliable sources (though the Conversation article linked below by DFlhb is helpful in that regard). — Askarion ✉ 22:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
supported by the sourcing: I anecdotally noticed that media outlet usage of
self-described misogynistabsolutely exploded within just days of us making the change to the lead (and I'd think a thorough source survey would confirm this), which hints at unexpected citogenesis. I don't support removing "self-described", which is certainly due; best option is probably to move it to the body and make it more precise (e.g.
On a 2021 podcast, Tate described himself as "absolutely a misogynist", adding that "I’m a realist and when you’re a realist you’re sexist."(the following RS quote him in full: [4] [5] [6] [7]), and then return the lead to what it says between Aug '22 and Jan '23 (
Tate's misogynistic commentary). The current wording is certainly not inaccurate, just imprecise (ironically, we only changed it because people kept complaining about POV on this talk page, but the change didn't help in that regard) DFlhb ( talk) 22:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
said quite the opposite about himself". This would make all instances of this phrasing is invalid, under this presumption. However, "self-described misogynist" is absolutely supported by the sources and is due for inclusion in the article, and is cited to reliable source The Washington Post. I think the current phrasing is fine, but so was "
Tate's misogynistic commentary", so I'd be okay with either. Over the past few months, we've changed the phrasing countless times after being continuously accused of POV pushing, and it never satisfied everyone long-term, so we might as well find the most concise and accurate phrasing and stick with it. — Askarion ✉ 02:11, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
He has variously agreed, deflected – fine, he says, call me that, I don’t care – or denied, declaiming the love he has for women(and links to instances of each). That seems to be the most accurate summary of it. And there was also a YouTube Short going around where he implied you'd have to be dumb to believe he was a misogynist, so it doesn't seem like a label he genuinely endorses. Personally, I prefer the pre-January status quo wording ("misogynistic commentary" in the lead) and some variant of "variously agreed, deflected, and denied" in the misogyny paragraph of the body. DFlhb ( talk) 08:28, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Tate is not a misogynist at all, but rather a critic of feminism, there are many female critics of feminism, too. Feminism should not be confused with Women rights. Kindly replace the Category:Misogynists with Category:Male critics of feminism, in this article. Thanks. 182.183.147.193 ( talk) 10:30, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Passed away from poisoning on April 27, 2023 2A02:A451:755D:1:E4AC:604F:61F9:3B7F ( talk) 15:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Religion ( stance ) - Muslim 178.220.236.195 ( talk) 17:04, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Looked at the archives and didn't see any in-depth discussions or clear consensus. Per WP:ETHNICITY, hyphenated terms should be avoided because they often imply ethnicity. In this case, British-American implies an American of British ancestry and vice-versa for "American-British". Per that guideline and MOS:FIRSTBIO, the only wording should be either "British and American" or just British. I know that talk on whether using British or English and whatnot is more appropriate for the individual but the sake of this post, I will just use British.
To me, only "British" per WP:ETHNICITY and MOS:FIRSTBIO would make the most sense. Though Tate was born and raised in America, he moved to England and that's where he begun his kickboxing career and would later appear in the British version of Big Brother. Until moving to Romania and the current issues surrounding his activities there, it appears his residence was in the U.K as well. Though if editors feel that his American origins have importance as well, then it can be discussed here.
For now, I've left it as "British and American" to avoid hyphenated terms. 12:06, 1 May 2023 (UTC) Clear Looking Glass ( talk) 12:06, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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The Tate brother's house arrest has been extended until May 29, and the article does not seem to have been updated to reflect this yet.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65351270 Comitialbulb561 ( talk) 01:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
It is not relevant that he is, as stated currently in the article "mixed race" or which of his parents (his father) is African-American 70.40.83.37 ( talk) 02:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
add muslim as Andrew tate's religion as he was reverted to islam on October 24, 2023
For reference : https://www.itv.com/news/2023-04-02/is-andrew-tates-conversion-to-islam-toxic-to-the-muslim-community Wikipidiaedit1 ( talk) 08:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Tate has previously speculated that he was kicked out of the Big Brother house as a result of an altercation between him and two other housemates in the show. He told producers he wouldn’t wait for security in the event that another housemate attempted to get physically violent with him. He claims they fabricated the reason they gave to the public for his removal. Would this be worth adding to the “Big Brother” section?
A link to a video of Tate explaining this; ignore the gameplay video at the bottom. https://youtube.com/shorts/0edI5zCLZ-0?feature=share Bposterboard ( talk) 14:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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Joemama123578 ( talk) 18:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Andrew has been in many a podcast, for example, amethystyoormam and 1,2 buckle my shoe
Why is he labeled as a far right influencer? it doesn't make sense and it distorts the term completely. 181.228.242.114 ( talk) 15:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Not sure why this article doesn't mention it at all, but he's considered a major figure in the manosphere by an overwhelming number of sources; he should also be added to Category:Manosphere. Several examples:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018880575/the-toxic-world-of-the-manosphere
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/andrew-tate-arrested-oped
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/godforbid/andrew-tate-and-the-manosphere/102204406
https://www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-report/2023/05/adventures-manosphere-andrew-tate
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/us/andrew-tate-manosphere-misogyny-solutions-cec/index.html
https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/10/23547393/andrew-tate-toxic-masculinity-qa
Jenny Death ( talk) 16:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Many people now believe that Tate, when saying treat your women like your property, he meant care for them and protect them and love them. As Tate is extremely controversial, I think this controversial statement is meaningful. Elmo118 ( talk) 09:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Please just remove these and WP:DFTT. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 10:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC) |
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In the "Bans" section, I would like to add that this sentence: He was banned on Twitter following the wave of bans, but his account was later reestablished when Elon Musk took charge of Twitter, due to him not violating Twitter ToS.
Relevant sources are not hard to find.
Also I would like to add "Charity work" section or add this to his personal life: He runs a dog shelter in Romania, rebuilt an orphanage in Romania, started a a foundation to defend women from domestic abuse and upports a charity that aids men with mental conditions. He also donated over 25M USD to feed children in war-torn countries as Iran and Syria.
Sources are also not hard to find: https://www.insidesport.in/andrew-tate-charity-how-many-times-did-the-multi-millionaire-influencer-do-charity/ https://www.ndtv.com/feature/influencer-andrew-tate-reveals-hell-set-up-100-million-charity-for-falsely-accused-men-3758525 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/controversial-influencer-andrew-tate-sets-up-charity-to-help-women-and-men/news-story/ba228d845ba7f05d0e89524b3b64df8c Karolow99 ( talk) 16:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
This edit is WP:SYNTH. It appears that the BBC was simply wrong, or perhaps they meant 'not yet arraigned' rather than 'not yet charged'.
Reuters's coverage of the investigation is even being reprinted by mainstream Romanian news outlets (see Libertatea or Jurnalul through the Mediafax wire service), so I'd treat Reuters as more reliable than the BBC if they conflict; besides, we can't resolve that conflict through SYNTH. DFlhb ( talk) 19:06, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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Change “Christian” to “Muslim” in summary table 87.252.225.236 ( talk) 11:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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Add article to "Category:People charged with rape" and "Category:People charged with sex trafficking" JellyfishReflector ( talk) 12:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Title. This is in the interest of balance. When we cover allegations against a person, we must include their response if it can also be sourced. A simple “Tate denies any wrongdoing.” or “Tate denies all charges.” at the end of the lede’s last paragraph will suffice. Asperthrow ( talk) 19:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate should not be listed as a boxer. It should be changed to convicted rapist and human trafficker.
Also, Tate has denied everything since the beginning so nothing should be different now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097.amp 2601:282:117F:3F30:948A:B3C3:1CD8:98D3 ( talk) 01:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
In the recent BBC interview, it is mentioned that Tate once described his "job" on his website as:
The interview then proceeds with Tate lying into the interviewer's face by claiming to have never said this, and the BBC lets this stand with a reticent "The page has since been taken down."
Actually, the Internet Archive has captured the relevant page, quote (3rd paragraph) & all.
Since the quote indeed succinctly sums up what Tate is on about, I'd argue that it should be included.
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Please change "On June 20, they were charged with rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group to sexually exploit women.[11]" to "On June 20, they were charged with rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group to sexually exploit women, and are under investigation for separate charges including money laundering and trafficking of minors.[11]"
The added text is supported by the article sourced (11 — https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097) by the unedited text: "There are also separate charges still under investigation which could lead to a separate indictment, including money laundering and trafficking of minors." 2001:4653:27E0:0:4193:A341:7DBA:3453 ( talk) 14:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Add Eileen Ashleigh as his other parent Sarah1976 ( talk) 02:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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Andrew tate is a muslim 190.213.200.5 ( talk) 00:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Again, I have to insist that Tate’s denial is included following the description of his charges in the lede. “Tate denies all charges.” or “Tate denies any wrongdoing.” would suffice. As it stands, this paragraph seems unbalanced to me. It’s only one side of an argument. Asperthrow ( talk) 22:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Citation 29 is used to claim rate admits to owning the webcam business on his website but it actually just links to an article about him being banned from Twitter. I just want an actual source for the webcam site info. 2601:18C:9101:4930:6D6E:519A:52E4:E2FD ( talk) 02:38, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
This is the paragraph the article is citing, which backs up that Tate runs (or claims to run) a successful webcam business using his girlfriends as employees. 〜 Askarion ✉ 03:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)It also includes a ‘PhD program’ on “all male-female interactions”, where Mr Tate claims that the success of a webcam studio he runs is due to the fact that “over 50% of all my employees were actually my girlfriend at the time” and that his job was “to get women to fall in love with [him]”.
Trolling. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 05:14, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Tate discussed in her most recent interview with Patrick Bet David that she is now a woman. In order to maintain consistency with the rest of Wikipedia, and not be transphobic, all of her pronouns should be changed in the article. 2601:341:8100:B420:FC1C:B4B:B896:D820 ( talk) 04:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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The article is too long to navigate comfortably and should be split up, including a separate article about the criminal investigation and a new article about Tristan Tate who is notable in his own right. JamiroquaiTopG ( talk) 23:16, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Wiki is very biased. Why was his interview with Tucker Carlson removed from the number one spot on most viewed interview? Can we not report facts anymore? 213.7.30.219 ( talk) 20:10, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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Could you please remove the category search tags that include any charges that Andrew Tate hasn't been fully convicted of. This could be misleading to people. Athan Kokkinos ( talk) 11:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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Although Andrew Tate has been accused of promoting harmful and discriminatory attitudes towards women, it is important to note that he has not explicitly described himself as a misogynist. While some of his comments and statements have been widely criticized as promoting misogynistic beliefs, it is important to accurately represent his self-identification. 173.176.93.201 ( talk) 18:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Per the cited source, "“You can’t be responsible for a dog if it doesn’t obey you.” He has said he would attack a woman who accused him of cheating and described himself as “absolutely a misogynist.”"■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 18:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Am I sexist? Yes. Why? Because of my experiences in the world." However, this is where the issue arises: two people have watched the same clip, and one got the impression that he was being sarcastic and the other didn't. This is where consensus comes into play. If more reliable sources characterize him as being sincere with that quote, then the consensus is that he was being sincere, and we can therefore include "self-described misogynist" as a genuine label. — Askarion ✉ 17:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
this biased individual is acting in bad faith– do not cast aspersions. Please edit your comment to strike that remark. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 20:02, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
As someone who believes in fairness no matter their gender, sexual orientation, race, disability and others, I think it would be wise to not judge a book by its cover. Andrew Tate definitely said some socially-penetrating comments that are without a doubt insensitive and controversial. That we can all agree on. Is Andrew Tate a misogynist? Well, many news outlets have picked up on the fact that his material is. There seems to be consensus. Albeit, Andrew Tate did NOT describe himself as a misogynist directly. This is what seems to be bothering many people in this thread. I ask the editors that may be to change the line to "widely described as a misogynist", as it is more factual and also does not change the overall perception of Andrew Tate's dangerous rhetoric. FriendlyNeighborhoodDemocraticSocialist ( talk) 13:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Here is the source Tanline666 ( talk) 20:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Can someone please update: "...sparking online rumors on if he has lung cancer." to: "...sparking online rumors related to whether he has lung cancer." BurntSynapse ( talk) 19:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
He became Christian again either in 2019 or 2020 not in early 2022 Truthwrites ( talk) 17:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Tate's claims of competing and winning in chess tournaments at the age of five has come under suspicion of falsehood. This YouTube video depicts someone contacting the Indiana Chess Association. The association and its publicly available information directly contradicts Tate's statements. I would like to recommend that the line about "playing in adult tournaments as a child" be either removed from the page, or amended to reflect the possibly false nature of the statements and evidence supporting the falsehood. 2607:FEA8:4502:5E00:E005:AD41:7F47:A6F3 ( talk) 10:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to make some minor edits to andrew tates page Fahad Imttiyaz ( talk) 00:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
> On December 29, 2022, Tate and his brother, Tristan...
this line is confusing as it refers to Andrew Tate by last name then Tristan Tate immediately afterwards by first name.
I suggest it should be changed to
> On December 29, 2022, Andrew and his brother, Tristan...
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The correct date of birth is 14 of December 1986. Please check his official page and correct it. Thank you! 2A02:A58:8249:3E00:F020:BF6F:D5FB:E2DE ( talk) 13:07, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Emory Tate III Was Born An Orthodox And In 2022 He Accepted Islam And Became A Muslim 2404:3100:1C01:8BD3:1:0:C956:9C2B ( talk) 09:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Stance should be Muslim 82.31.191.51 ( talk) 21:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
He announced that his new name is "Abu Andrew Tate", after converting to Islam. 103.169.65.150 ( talk) 03:34, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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change "self-proclaimed misogynist." to "traditionalist" 92.6.9.122 ( talk) 15:15, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
He said quite the opposite about himself. Rewardesjango ( talk) 17:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
A self-described misogynist," if consensus calls for it; though I personally support the status quo of including the "self-described misogynist" claim because it's supported by the sourcing. Even if Tate said the words in 2021, the sources that the article cites are much more recent, so they can still count unless Tate is reported to have said otherwise by other reliable sources (though the Conversation article linked below by DFlhb is helpful in that regard). — Askarion ✉ 22:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
supported by the sourcing: I anecdotally noticed that media outlet usage of
self-described misogynistabsolutely exploded within just days of us making the change to the lead (and I'd think a thorough source survey would confirm this), which hints at unexpected citogenesis. I don't support removing "self-described", which is certainly due; best option is probably to move it to the body and make it more precise (e.g.
On a 2021 podcast, Tate described himself as "absolutely a misogynist", adding that "I’m a realist and when you’re a realist you’re sexist."(the following RS quote him in full: [4] [5] [6] [7]), and then return the lead to what it says between Aug '22 and Jan '23 (
Tate's misogynistic commentary). The current wording is certainly not inaccurate, just imprecise (ironically, we only changed it because people kept complaining about POV on this talk page, but the change didn't help in that regard) DFlhb ( talk) 22:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
said quite the opposite about himself". This would make all instances of this phrasing is invalid, under this presumption. However, "self-described misogynist" is absolutely supported by the sources and is due for inclusion in the article, and is cited to reliable source The Washington Post. I think the current phrasing is fine, but so was "
Tate's misogynistic commentary", so I'd be okay with either. Over the past few months, we've changed the phrasing countless times after being continuously accused of POV pushing, and it never satisfied everyone long-term, so we might as well find the most concise and accurate phrasing and stick with it. — Askarion ✉ 02:11, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
He has variously agreed, deflected – fine, he says, call me that, I don’t care – or denied, declaiming the love he has for women(and links to instances of each). That seems to be the most accurate summary of it. And there was also a YouTube Short going around where he implied you'd have to be dumb to believe he was a misogynist, so it doesn't seem like a label he genuinely endorses. Personally, I prefer the pre-January status quo wording ("misogynistic commentary" in the lead) and some variant of "variously agreed, deflected, and denied" in the misogyny paragraph of the body. DFlhb ( talk) 08:28, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Andrew Tate is not a misogynist at all, but rather a critic of feminism, there are many female critics of feminism, too. Feminism should not be confused with Women rights. Kindly replace the Category:Misogynists with Category:Male critics of feminism, in this article. Thanks. 182.183.147.193 ( talk) 10:30, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Passed away from poisoning on April 27, 2023 2A02:A451:755D:1:E4AC:604F:61F9:3B7F ( talk) 15:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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Religion ( stance ) - Muslim 178.220.236.195 ( talk) 17:04, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Looked at the archives and didn't see any in-depth discussions or clear consensus. Per WP:ETHNICITY, hyphenated terms should be avoided because they often imply ethnicity. In this case, British-American implies an American of British ancestry and vice-versa for "American-British". Per that guideline and MOS:FIRSTBIO, the only wording should be either "British and American" or just British. I know that talk on whether using British or English and whatnot is more appropriate for the individual but the sake of this post, I will just use British.
To me, only "British" per WP:ETHNICITY and MOS:FIRSTBIO would make the most sense. Though Tate was born and raised in America, he moved to England and that's where he begun his kickboxing career and would later appear in the British version of Big Brother. Until moving to Romania and the current issues surrounding his activities there, it appears his residence was in the U.K as well. Though if editors feel that his American origins have importance as well, then it can be discussed here.
For now, I've left it as "British and American" to avoid hyphenated terms. 12:06, 1 May 2023 (UTC) Clear Looking Glass ( talk) 12:06, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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The Tate brother's house arrest has been extended until May 29, and the article does not seem to have been updated to reflect this yet.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65351270 Comitialbulb561 ( talk) 01:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
It is not relevant that he is, as stated currently in the article "mixed race" or which of his parents (his father) is African-American 70.40.83.37 ( talk) 02:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
add muslim as Andrew tate's religion as he was reverted to islam on October 24, 2023
For reference : https://www.itv.com/news/2023-04-02/is-andrew-tates-conversion-to-islam-toxic-to-the-muslim-community Wikipidiaedit1 ( talk) 08:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Tate has previously speculated that he was kicked out of the Big Brother house as a result of an altercation between him and two other housemates in the show. He told producers he wouldn’t wait for security in the event that another housemate attempted to get physically violent with him. He claims they fabricated the reason they gave to the public for his removal. Would this be worth adding to the “Big Brother” section?
A link to a video of Tate explaining this; ignore the gameplay video at the bottom. https://youtube.com/shorts/0edI5zCLZ-0?feature=share Bposterboard ( talk) 14:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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Joemama123578 ( talk) 18:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Andrew has been in many a podcast, for example, amethystyoormam and 1,2 buckle my shoe
Why is he labeled as a far right influencer? it doesn't make sense and it distorts the term completely. 181.228.242.114 ( talk) 15:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Not sure why this article doesn't mention it at all, but he's considered a major figure in the manosphere by an overwhelming number of sources; he should also be added to Category:Manosphere. Several examples:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018880575/the-toxic-world-of-the-manosphere
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/andrew-tate-arrested-oped
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/godforbid/andrew-tate-and-the-manosphere/102204406
https://www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-report/2023/05/adventures-manosphere-andrew-tate
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/us/andrew-tate-manosphere-misogyny-solutions-cec/index.html
https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/10/23547393/andrew-tate-toxic-masculinity-qa
Jenny Death ( talk) 16:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Many people now believe that Tate, when saying treat your women like your property, he meant care for them and protect them and love them. As Tate is extremely controversial, I think this controversial statement is meaningful. Elmo118 ( talk) 09:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Please just remove these and WP:DFTT. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 10:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC) |
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In the "Bans" section, I would like to add that this sentence: He was banned on Twitter following the wave of bans, but his account was later reestablished when Elon Musk took charge of Twitter, due to him not violating Twitter ToS.
Relevant sources are not hard to find.
Also I would like to add "Charity work" section or add this to his personal life: He runs a dog shelter in Romania, rebuilt an orphanage in Romania, started a a foundation to defend women from domestic abuse and upports a charity that aids men with mental conditions. He also donated over 25M USD to feed children in war-torn countries as Iran and Syria.
Sources are also not hard to find: https://www.insidesport.in/andrew-tate-charity-how-many-times-did-the-multi-millionaire-influencer-do-charity/ https://www.ndtv.com/feature/influencer-andrew-tate-reveals-hell-set-up-100-million-charity-for-falsely-accused-men-3758525 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/controversial-influencer-andrew-tate-sets-up-charity-to-help-women-and-men/news-story/ba228d845ba7f05d0e89524b3b64df8c Karolow99 ( talk) 16:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
This edit is WP:SYNTH. It appears that the BBC was simply wrong, or perhaps they meant 'not yet arraigned' rather than 'not yet charged'.
Reuters's coverage of the investigation is even being reprinted by mainstream Romanian news outlets (see Libertatea or Jurnalul through the Mediafax wire service), so I'd treat Reuters as more reliable than the BBC if they conflict; besides, we can't resolve that conflict through SYNTH. DFlhb ( talk) 19:06, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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Change “Christian” to “Muslim” in summary table 87.252.225.236 ( talk) 11:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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Add article to "Category:People charged with rape" and "Category:People charged with sex trafficking" JellyfishReflector ( talk) 12:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Title. This is in the interest of balance. When we cover allegations against a person, we must include their response if it can also be sourced. A simple “Tate denies any wrongdoing.” or “Tate denies all charges.” at the end of the lede’s last paragraph will suffice. Asperthrow ( talk) 19:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate should not be listed as a boxer. It should be changed to convicted rapist and human trafficker.
Also, Tate has denied everything since the beginning so nothing should be different now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097.amp 2601:282:117F:3F30:948A:B3C3:1CD8:98D3 ( talk) 01:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
In the recent BBC interview, it is mentioned that Tate once described his "job" on his website as:
The interview then proceeds with Tate lying into the interviewer's face by claiming to have never said this, and the BBC lets this stand with a reticent "The page has since been taken down."
Actually, the Internet Archive has captured the relevant page, quote (3rd paragraph) & all.
Since the quote indeed succinctly sums up what Tate is on about, I'd argue that it should be included.
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Please change "On June 20, they were charged with rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group to sexually exploit women.[11]" to "On June 20, they were charged with rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group to sexually exploit women, and are under investigation for separate charges including money laundering and trafficking of minors.[11]"
The added text is supported by the article sourced (11 — https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65959097) by the unedited text: "There are also separate charges still under investigation which could lead to a separate indictment, including money laundering and trafficking of minors." 2001:4653:27E0:0:4193:A341:7DBA:3453 ( talk) 14:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Add Eileen Ashleigh as his other parent Sarah1976 ( talk) 02:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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Andrew tate is a muslim 190.213.200.5 ( talk) 00:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Again, I have to insist that Tate’s denial is included following the description of his charges in the lede. “Tate denies all charges.” or “Tate denies any wrongdoing.” would suffice. As it stands, this paragraph seems unbalanced to me. It’s only one side of an argument. Asperthrow ( talk) 22:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Citation 29 is used to claim rate admits to owning the webcam business on his website but it actually just links to an article about him being banned from Twitter. I just want an actual source for the webcam site info. 2601:18C:9101:4930:6D6E:519A:52E4:E2FD ( talk) 02:38, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
This is the paragraph the article is citing, which backs up that Tate runs (or claims to run) a successful webcam business using his girlfriends as employees. 〜 Askarion ✉ 03:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)It also includes a ‘PhD program’ on “all male-female interactions”, where Mr Tate claims that the success of a webcam studio he runs is due to the fact that “over 50% of all my employees were actually my girlfriend at the time” and that his job was “to get women to fall in love with [him]”.
Trolling. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she|they|xe) 05:14, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Tate discussed in her most recent interview with Patrick Bet David that she is now a woman. In order to maintain consistency with the rest of Wikipedia, and not be transphobic, all of her pronouns should be changed in the article. 2601:341:8100:B420:FC1C:B4B:B896:D820 ( talk) 04:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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The article is too long to navigate comfortably and should be split up, including a separate article about the criminal investigation and a new article about Tristan Tate who is notable in his own right. JamiroquaiTopG ( talk) 23:16, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Wiki is very biased. Why was his interview with Tucker Carlson removed from the number one spot on most viewed interview? Can we not report facts anymore? 213.7.30.219 ( talk) 20:10, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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Could you please remove the category search tags that include any charges that Andrew Tate hasn't been fully convicted of. This could be misleading to people. Athan Kokkinos ( talk) 11:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)