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I heard that Tate has changed his name to "Abu Andrew" as part of Islamic conversion PokeW101 ( talk) 13:35, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
It is confirmed on Mohammed Hijabs podcast with Andrew Tate that he has converted to Islam. This needs to be added to his wiki. Below is the link/reference to confirm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diqgTxR99JE 86.5.202.27 ( talk) 12:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change "Tate's misogynistic commentary on social media has resulted in his bans from several platforms." To "Tate's world challenging commentary on real issues in the world on social media has resulted in his bans from several platforms." 62.4.144.25 ( talk) 22:37, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
This should be edited immediately ! 102.164.97.63 ( talk) 12:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
The Twitter bans don't really mean anything because Twitter, like Facebook and YouTube, pretty much censors out and deplatforms about 50 percent of all of the opinions on the globe. Genuine diversity is ideational and experiential, and isn't a genetic legacy from birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 ( talk) 16:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Remove misogynist and add laying facts 49.36.115.151 ( talk) 06:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Do not only did you guys lie about him being a misogynist but you guys also lied and said his case for sex trafficking is still ongoing when that’s been proven false the Romanian government searched his house and all his electronic devices and found nothing so they dropped it in less than a week. 2600:8800:3610:1A10:28AB:D135:57F8:AC1F ( talk) 21:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Look into the definition of misogyny, watch entire interviews and podcasts, not just tiktoks out of context. 49.186.72.88 ( talk) 10:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussionclause. Not only was the "misogyny" label not an exceptional claim ("Obama is a reptilian" would be), but it simply doesn't address whether to use Wikivoice or not. Yet it was used as if it did support using Wikivoice.
I can't be cancelled!") not an earnest self-label. I don't I'm giving an unfairly charitable description of the context. Separately, he also repeatedly denied being a misogynist, and that denial was covered by several WP:RS (including NBC).
...unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject. Well, that makes this relatively easy, since the NBC source isn't alone.
Andrew Tate, a former professional kickboxer who frequently made misogynistic comments about women online, has been barred in the last week from Facebook, YouTube and TikTok after concerns about his influence on his millions of followers escalated.[1]
Sources treat this as a basic fact, therefor so should Wikipedia
widely described as misogynist" is decent middle ground, although we'll have to add a few qualifiers to avoid a by whom? tag. As it stands, though, I think referring to his commentary as misogynist in wikivoice is sourced enough for inclusion, even in a BLP. Askarion ✉ 12:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Customary apology for the length. Following the thread above, I decided to look into things again. There's a few interesting bits we might want to discuss, which I've bolded. Here's the timeline I could piece together.
This story stinks. They're both witnesses, in an investigation where charges aren't being considered, which DIICOT indefinitely put on the backburner. It's quite likely we'll never even hear about this again; it's not like charges can be dropped, since there are none.
I'll note that the sourcing sucks. The Daily Beast calls itself a tabloid, and shouldn't be used for this. Only two other articles cover this (Guardian and NBC), and both qualify as mentions " in passing", rather than significant coverage (really, they each spend less than a single paragraph on it). The Guardian published three more articles about Tate, and NBC News four more, when they don't mention it at all. All other WP:RS ignored the story altogether.
Is this really due? DFlhb ( talk) 04:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Emory andrew Tate ||| Converted to islam and now he is Emory Abu Andrew Tate |||
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Kick boxing bouts 7, 4 wins 3 loses https://www.followchain.org/andrew-tate-fight-record/ 2601:681:4100:1930:51F5:893B:481B:E4E ( talk) 19:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Not done: The kickboxing record is extensively sourced, and the site you link to doesn't seem like a reliable site at all. DFlhb ( talk) 09:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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Net Worth: 832 million dollars 152.36.54.232 ( talk) 14:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
See this diff. My first revert was incorrect. Placing it here so others see. DFlhb ( talk) 18:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate follows a belief system of female and LGBTQ insuperiority, and the promotion of misogynistic values. 92.10.202.98 ( talk) 02:48, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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on reliable sources from romania, more info about andrew that could be shared Kakahead ( talk) 13:47, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate appeared on a live stream with a famous live streamer named Adin Ross when he made a word called Fsl short for Fat-stinky-loser. It has been used across all of twitch users since it happened. 46.248.200.199 ( talk) 21:43, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Tate has appeared in a TikTok video in which he claimed "ISIS are the real Muslims because ISIS do exactly what the book says". These comments resurfaced in late November 2022, shortly after it was reported that Tate had converted to Islam. At the time of writing the article includes the following text:
"In October 2022, Tate announced on his Gettr account that he had converted to Islam. A video of Tate praying at a mosque in Dubai, UAE, went viral."
I would like to propose revising the article as follow:
"On 24 October 2022, Tate announced on his Gettr account that he had converted to Islam. A video of Tate praying at a mosque in Dubai, UAE, went viral.
On 25 October 2022 Bariqah News Agency, a pro-Islamic State (ISIS) media outlet, shared a video in which Tate earlier claimed that "ISIS are the real Muslims".
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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/why-do-so-many-western-muslim-men-love-andrew-tate
https://www.tiktok.com/@el.chapati/video/7127981800198130950?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7127981800198130950 [This may not be eligible as this is a primary source]
Several previous topics have concerned Tate's religious views. In light of Tate's recent conversion to Islam, which has been widely covered online, I also wonder if it would be worth revisiting some of these earlier topics, which a view to developing a new section regarding Tate's "Religious views". If this would be of interest to other editors, I'd be happy to draft something for consideration.
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I'd like to change a couple of things in the text that I consider to be biased and not true. Hansmikkelsen1234 ( talk) 22:01, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
This discussion is about this edit (and this previous edit)
After the edit from two days ago, I searched for the original source. Here it is; it's from 2018, and here's a partial transcript:
I'm an atheist. [...] Religious people are the biggest hypocrits on the fucking planet because religious people don't read their own religious books. Every Christian I've argued with, I start busting out quotes from the Bible, and they go: "That's not in the Bible" Yeah it is. [...] You cannot be a Christian and ignore your own book. You either have two choices: you're either an absolute hypocrite, by either pretending you're a Christian and ignoring your own book, or you're a feral psychopath. There is no other way to be religious. It makes me laugh when ISIS was around, people say: "ISIS aren't real Muslims". No, ISIS are the real Muslims, because ISIS do exactly what the book says, which is kill everyone who's not a Muslim and chop people's heads off and set them on fire, and be fucking raging lunatics. But all the other Muslims go "They're not real Muslims, because I'm a Muslim because I read the book and ignore those parts". Well then you're not a fucking Muslim because you're ignoring the fucking book. [...] Christians are exactly the same. Every Christian, I say: "When you walk into a store on a Sunday, and someone is working on God's day, they should be put to death. Do you murder them?" "Well, no." [...] If not you're not a fucking Christian are you, you moron. [...] So religious people are hypocrites, or psychopaths. That's the only two choices. There is no other option.
This is basically "spicy Richard Dawkins". (BTW, according to MEMRI, that Telegram post by the ISIS propagandists got... 6 views.) I don't think it's due or would be considered encyclopedically relevant, and if we include it, we risk significantly misrepresenting it as a recent claim, or as an endorsement of ISIS (rather than a criticism of religion) which would benefit ISIS more than it would benefit Wikipedia. DFlhb ( talk) 11:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the section labeled Social media presence says "onlinr" Elderlystrawberry ( talk) 13:55, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
For this article to be unbiased and true, there should also be a section for controversies surrounding Andrew Tate's career as an social media influencer MrBanana1234 ( talk) 19:15, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
He’s controversial, sure. And he’s also pretty cowardly. But I don’t see how this kind of thing can be included without source material. Otherwise we’re violating Wikipedia’s rule against original research. Darkprincealain ( talk) 18:35, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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In December 2022 Tate was publicly rattled and unnerved by Climate Activist Greta Thunberg's response to his tweet. He posted over 8 tweets to her 1. Tate appears to have taken the tweet to heart, even responding with a "How dare you?! Yet, tate was in the right with Greta Thunberg showing signs of madness." 2601:204:CA00:7985:8971:6E38:C00D:A134 ( talk) 05:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
This has been in the article since yesterday, before your request. DFlhb ( talk) 11:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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If he's only been accused and it's not been confirmed, isn't it unethical to put in his description that there's victims as if it were confirmed? 65.30.87.109 ( talk) 23:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the sex trafficking content. He was NOT arrested. He was brought in for questioning and let go because the police went to his house and realized it was a phony tip made to the US embassy. Michaelcanyon2022 ( talk) 00:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove ‘Greta Thunberg’ under kickboxing record. This is purely false. 66.235.12.28 ( talk) 01:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew tate by definition is not misogynistic. Not one person has been able to site something of his that would fit under the definition of Mysoginy, that isn't cherrypicked out of context or isn't a joke. 2605:8D80:6A4:53B9:91F2:3B40:F90D:239E ( talk) 01:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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The race of his parents is irrelevant information and should be removed for appearing racist due to highlighting colours. Cellius83 ( talk) 23:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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The page states that his commentary is misogynistic which is an opinion yet it states it as if it's a fact... what exactly has he said that fits the definition of misogyny? 2601:981:C281:D3E0:D102:C46B:D846:D786 ( talk) 22:57, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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By the way, it was GRETA, the Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings, that urged Romania last year to effectively prosecute human trafficking. ( https://www.news.com.au/world/owned-so-hard-how-a-pizza-box-landed-tate-in-custody/news-story/6c67b8384ffbd62ae65c07f37242f5d3) 93.211.208.61 ( talk) 03:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Remove information on his current arrest. It’s ridiculous how badly people want to portray him as guilty when there has been absolutely no evidence. Let the investigation at least come to an end. 2A00:23C4:ED01:E501:D4D3:7A95:BF9C:B45 ( talk) 03:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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He has described himself as "absolutely a sexist" and "absolutely a misogynist". This line of text is wrong, as the things mentioned were said with a degree of irony and to demonstrate how you could take informations out of context when videos become viral. 37.161.213.215 ( talk) 02:38, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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I was writing this before I noticed I couldn't edit. Would appreciate if someone edited the section.
"In December 29, 2022, Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan were the subject of a raid by the Romanian Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism (DIICOT). The raid was conducted at their luxury villa in Pipera, Romania, and was in relation to the alleged abduction of two girls. The authorities reportedly focused attention on a number of luxury vehicles at the residence, and a police trailer was on-site, possibly to uplift one or multiple vehicles. The home of a former policewoman was also raided in connection to the investigation.
The brothers were detained for 24 hours, and the DIICOT prosecutors searched their luxury cars. Andrew and Tristan had previously been questioned by DIICOT in April 2022, in relation to the same incident. At the time, Andrew Tate stated that the issues arose from a swatting incident." Crannofonix ( talk) 22:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I think this might be reliable - working on better - https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/surse-perchezitii-diicot-tristan-tate-andrew-tate-sechestrare-fete-tristan-tate-bianca-dragusanu-4394856/amp Hipocrite ( talk) 22:22, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Probably better - this looks to be CNN related? https://www.antena3.ro/actualitate/fratii-tate-perchezitii-vila-lux-tristan-cobra-661477.html Hipocrite ( talk) 22:24, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Add Eileen Ashleigh under "parent," as only Emory Tate was included. Also, should change it into "parents", plural. (Under Tate's info.) TheeChEese ( talk) 20:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Names of parents; include only if they are independently notable or particularly relevant. She's not a WP:PUBLICFIGURE, so wouldn't qualify, especially given the risk of harassment if she's made more prominent here. DFlhb ( talk) 21:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
There's no question that Tate is currently detained and according to multiple reliable sources, he has been charged with human trafficking, rape and forming an organized criminal group. This is relevant info and belongs in the infobox. Pennsylvania2 ( talk) 23:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
News reports agree that Andrew Tate was charged with human trafficking and forming an organized criminal group; but it's unclear whether he's been charged with rape.
I don't think we can say yet that he's been charged with rape. Be careful with misinterpreting media wording like "charged as part of a X, Y, Z investigation", which would list all suspects' charges, not just what he was charged with.. DFlhb ( talk) 23:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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The section about the Thunberg tweet exchange needs improvement in tone, I would suggest changing the present
Unbanned, in December 2022 Tate trolled environmentalist Greta Thunberg with a tweet extolling his carbon-emitting automobiles and asking for her e-mail address to give her more information. She tweeted back that he could "enlighten" her at "smalldickenergy@getalife.com."[51]
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After being unbanned in 2022, Tate posted a tweet in which he tagged Greta Thunberg asking for her email address so he "could send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions". Thunberg replied with "yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com". As of December 29 2022, the tweet by Tate has 193 000 likes, and the tweet by Thunberg has 2,8 million likes, making it the 22nd most liked tweet of all time.[52]
The last line is optional. Erbeilas ( talk) 22:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Tate has been arrested by Romanian officials for sex trafficking, along with Tristian Tate. Could someone with ext confirmation add this? Thank you.
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https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/andrew-tate-arrested-romania-human-trafficking-us-embassy/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/andrew-tate-arrested-suspicion-abducting-28839106
https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-right-influencer-andrew-tate-reportedly-arrested-in-romania-for-rape MyCatIsAChonk ( talk) 23:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Please remove all references to his Dec 2022 arrest until more reliable information is available.
Almost certainly the masses are falling for his trap. After the Gretta thunberg tweet war which received significantly greater media coverage than he anticipated, he most likely had the "fake" arrest prepared to complement the unexpected tweet coverage to get another round of media coverage.
You will notice no handcuffs. He arranged for journalists to be there for the arrest. He paid some actors or used his influence in the region for the police to arrest him and release him an hour later.
I was part of his war Room a year ago. I know how his mind works. Unless you get the NY Times reporting, don't play his BS media game.
You can contact me on x for more information on how he thinks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.241.3.84 ( talk) 23:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Some sources that might be of use in referencing his arrest:
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I like how its specified that he is mixed-race, and that his father is African-American; but it is not specified how his mother is English, or more specifically white English. Calesti ( talk) 16:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
instead of:
> Thunberg replied with the fake email address "smalldickenergy@getalife.com", causing some confusion, since she sarcastically claimed that the address was her own.
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> Thunberg replied sarcastically with the fake email address "smalldickenergy@getalife.com". Fiafied ( talk) 20:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
We currently say:
This might be minor, but, with this article getting millions of views per day (orders of magnitude more than this summer), I worry that including the above risks leading to harassment of the named journalist. It's not terribly informative; should be keep it? Leaning against. Though I may just be overly cautious. DFlhb ( talk) 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Why is this article using American date formatting and spelling? As far as I can see, this man has spent most of his life in England. It looks weird to use mdy dates and US spelling. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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I heard that Tate has changed his name to "Abu Andrew" as part of Islamic conversion PokeW101 ( talk) 13:35, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
It is confirmed on Mohammed Hijabs podcast with Andrew Tate that he has converted to Islam. This needs to be added to his wiki. Below is the link/reference to confirm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diqgTxR99JE 86.5.202.27 ( talk) 12:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change "Tate's misogynistic commentary on social media has resulted in his bans from several platforms." To "Tate's world challenging commentary on real issues in the world on social media has resulted in his bans from several platforms." 62.4.144.25 ( talk) 22:37, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
This should be edited immediately ! 102.164.97.63 ( talk) 12:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
The Twitter bans don't really mean anything because Twitter, like Facebook and YouTube, pretty much censors out and deplatforms about 50 percent of all of the opinions on the globe. Genuine diversity is ideational and experiential, and isn't a genetic legacy from birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 ( talk) 16:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Do not only did you guys lie about him being a misogynist but you guys also lied and said his case for sex trafficking is still ongoing when that’s been proven false the Romanian government searched his house and all his electronic devices and found nothing so they dropped it in less than a week. 2600:8800:3610:1A10:28AB:D135:57F8:AC1F ( talk) 21:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Look into the definition of misogyny, watch entire interviews and podcasts, not just tiktoks out of context. 49.186.72.88 ( talk) 10:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussionclause. Not only was the "misogyny" label not an exceptional claim ("Obama is a reptilian" would be), but it simply doesn't address whether to use Wikivoice or not. Yet it was used as if it did support using Wikivoice.
I can't be cancelled!") not an earnest self-label. I don't I'm giving an unfairly charitable description of the context. Separately, he also repeatedly denied being a misogynist, and that denial was covered by several WP:RS (including NBC).
...unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject. Well, that makes this relatively easy, since the NBC source isn't alone.
Andrew Tate, a former professional kickboxer who frequently made misogynistic comments about women online, has been barred in the last week from Facebook, YouTube and TikTok after concerns about his influence on his millions of followers escalated.[1]
Sources treat this as a basic fact, therefor so should Wikipedia
widely described as misogynist" is decent middle ground, although we'll have to add a few qualifiers to avoid a by whom? tag. As it stands, though, I think referring to his commentary as misogynist in wikivoice is sourced enough for inclusion, even in a BLP. Askarion ✉ 12:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Customary apology for the length. Following the thread above, I decided to look into things again. There's a few interesting bits we might want to discuss, which I've bolded. Here's the timeline I could piece together.
This story stinks. They're both witnesses, in an investigation where charges aren't being considered, which DIICOT indefinitely put on the backburner. It's quite likely we'll never even hear about this again; it's not like charges can be dropped, since there are none.
I'll note that the sourcing sucks. The Daily Beast calls itself a tabloid, and shouldn't be used for this. Only two other articles cover this (Guardian and NBC), and both qualify as mentions " in passing", rather than significant coverage (really, they each spend less than a single paragraph on it). The Guardian published three more articles about Tate, and NBC News four more, when they don't mention it at all. All other WP:RS ignored the story altogether.
Is this really due? DFlhb ( talk) 04:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Kick boxing bouts 7, 4 wins 3 loses https://www.followchain.org/andrew-tate-fight-record/ 2601:681:4100:1930:51F5:893B:481B:E4E ( talk) 19:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Not done: The kickboxing record is extensively sourced, and the site you link to doesn't seem like a reliable site at all. DFlhb ( talk) 09:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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Net Worth: 832 million dollars 152.36.54.232 ( talk) 14:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate follows a belief system of female and LGBTQ insuperiority, and the promotion of misogynistic values. 92.10.202.98 ( talk) 02:48, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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on reliable sources from romania, more info about andrew that could be shared Kakahead ( talk) 13:47, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew Tate appeared on a live stream with a famous live streamer named Adin Ross when he made a word called Fsl short for Fat-stinky-loser. It has been used across all of twitch users since it happened. 46.248.200.199 ( talk) 21:43, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Tate has appeared in a TikTok video in which he claimed "ISIS are the real Muslims because ISIS do exactly what the book says". These comments resurfaced in late November 2022, shortly after it was reported that Tate had converted to Islam. At the time of writing the article includes the following text:
"In October 2022, Tate announced on his Gettr account that he had converted to Islam. A video of Tate praying at a mosque in Dubai, UAE, went viral."
I would like to propose revising the article as follow:
"On 24 October 2022, Tate announced on his Gettr account that he had converted to Islam. A video of Tate praying at a mosque in Dubai, UAE, went viral.
On 25 October 2022 Bariqah News Agency, a pro-Islamic State (ISIS) media outlet, shared a video in which Tate earlier claimed that "ISIS are the real Muslims".
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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/why-do-so-many-western-muslim-men-love-andrew-tate
https://www.tiktok.com/@el.chapati/video/7127981800198130950?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7127981800198130950 [This may not be eligible as this is a primary source]
Several previous topics have concerned Tate's religious views. In light of Tate's recent conversion to Islam, which has been widely covered online, I also wonder if it would be worth revisiting some of these earlier topics, which a view to developing a new section regarding Tate's "Religious views". If this would be of interest to other editors, I'd be happy to draft something for consideration.
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I'd like to change a couple of things in the text that I consider to be biased and not true. Hansmikkelsen1234 ( talk) 22:01, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
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After the edit from two days ago, I searched for the original source. Here it is; it's from 2018, and here's a partial transcript:
I'm an atheist. [...] Religious people are the biggest hypocrits on the fucking planet because religious people don't read their own religious books. Every Christian I've argued with, I start busting out quotes from the Bible, and they go: "That's not in the Bible" Yeah it is. [...] You cannot be a Christian and ignore your own book. You either have two choices: you're either an absolute hypocrite, by either pretending you're a Christian and ignoring your own book, or you're a feral psychopath. There is no other way to be religious. It makes me laugh when ISIS was around, people say: "ISIS aren't real Muslims". No, ISIS are the real Muslims, because ISIS do exactly what the book says, which is kill everyone who's not a Muslim and chop people's heads off and set them on fire, and be fucking raging lunatics. But all the other Muslims go "They're not real Muslims, because I'm a Muslim because I read the book and ignore those parts". Well then you're not a fucking Muslim because you're ignoring the fucking book. [...] Christians are exactly the same. Every Christian, I say: "When you walk into a store on a Sunday, and someone is working on God's day, they should be put to death. Do you murder them?" "Well, no." [...] If not you're not a fucking Christian are you, you moron. [...] So religious people are hypocrites, or psychopaths. That's the only two choices. There is no other option.
This is basically "spicy Richard Dawkins". (BTW, according to MEMRI, that Telegram post by the ISIS propagandists got... 6 views.) I don't think it's due or would be considered encyclopedically relevant, and if we include it, we risk significantly misrepresenting it as a recent claim, or as an endorsement of ISIS (rather than a criticism of religion) which would benefit ISIS more than it would benefit Wikipedia. DFlhb ( talk) 11:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the section labeled Social media presence says "onlinr" Elderlystrawberry ( talk) 13:55, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
For this article to be unbiased and true, there should also be a section for controversies surrounding Andrew Tate's career as an social media influencer MrBanana1234 ( talk) 19:15, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
He’s controversial, sure. And he’s also pretty cowardly. But I don’t see how this kind of thing can be included without source material. Otherwise we’re violating Wikipedia’s rule against original research. Darkprincealain ( talk) 18:35, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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In December 2022 Tate was publicly rattled and unnerved by Climate Activist Greta Thunberg's response to his tweet. He posted over 8 tweets to her 1. Tate appears to have taken the tweet to heart, even responding with a "How dare you?! Yet, tate was in the right with Greta Thunberg showing signs of madness." 2601:204:CA00:7985:8971:6E38:C00D:A134 ( talk) 05:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
This has been in the article since yesterday, before your request. DFlhb ( talk) 11:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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If he's only been accused and it's not been confirmed, isn't it unethical to put in his description that there's victims as if it were confirmed? 65.30.87.109 ( talk) 23:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the sex trafficking content. He was NOT arrested. He was brought in for questioning and let go because the police went to his house and realized it was a phony tip made to the US embassy. Michaelcanyon2022 ( talk) 00:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove ‘Greta Thunberg’ under kickboxing record. This is purely false. 66.235.12.28 ( talk) 01:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Andrew tate by definition is not misogynistic. Not one person has been able to site something of his that would fit under the definition of Mysoginy, that isn't cherrypicked out of context or isn't a joke. 2605:8D80:6A4:53B9:91F2:3B40:F90D:239E ( talk) 01:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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The race of his parents is irrelevant information and should be removed for appearing racist due to highlighting colours. Cellius83 ( talk) 23:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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The page states that his commentary is misogynistic which is an opinion yet it states it as if it's a fact... what exactly has he said that fits the definition of misogyny? 2601:981:C281:D3E0:D102:C46B:D846:D786 ( talk) 22:57, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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By the way, it was GRETA, the Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings, that urged Romania last year to effectively prosecute human trafficking. ( https://www.news.com.au/world/owned-so-hard-how-a-pizza-box-landed-tate-in-custody/news-story/6c67b8384ffbd62ae65c07f37242f5d3) 93.211.208.61 ( talk) 03:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Remove information on his current arrest. It’s ridiculous how badly people want to portray him as guilty when there has been absolutely no evidence. Let the investigation at least come to an end. 2A00:23C4:ED01:E501:D4D3:7A95:BF9C:B45 ( talk) 03:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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He has described himself as "absolutely a sexist" and "absolutely a misogynist". This line of text is wrong, as the things mentioned were said with a degree of irony and to demonstrate how you could take informations out of context when videos become viral. 37.161.213.215 ( talk) 02:38, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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I was writing this before I noticed I couldn't edit. Would appreciate if someone edited the section.
"In December 29, 2022, Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan were the subject of a raid by the Romanian Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism (DIICOT). The raid was conducted at their luxury villa in Pipera, Romania, and was in relation to the alleged abduction of two girls. The authorities reportedly focused attention on a number of luxury vehicles at the residence, and a police trailer was on-site, possibly to uplift one or multiple vehicles. The home of a former policewoman was also raided in connection to the investigation.
The brothers were detained for 24 hours, and the DIICOT prosecutors searched their luxury cars. Andrew and Tristan had previously been questioned by DIICOT in April 2022, in relation to the same incident. At the time, Andrew Tate stated that the issues arose from a swatting incident." Crannofonix ( talk) 22:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I think this might be reliable - working on better - https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/surse-perchezitii-diicot-tristan-tate-andrew-tate-sechestrare-fete-tristan-tate-bianca-dragusanu-4394856/amp Hipocrite ( talk) 22:22, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Probably better - this looks to be CNN related? https://www.antena3.ro/actualitate/fratii-tate-perchezitii-vila-lux-tristan-cobra-661477.html Hipocrite ( talk) 22:24, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Add Eileen Ashleigh under "parent," as only Emory Tate was included. Also, should change it into "parents", plural. (Under Tate's info.) TheeChEese ( talk) 20:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Names of parents; include only if they are independently notable or particularly relevant. She's not a WP:PUBLICFIGURE, so wouldn't qualify, especially given the risk of harassment if she's made more prominent here. DFlhb ( talk) 21:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
There's no question that Tate is currently detained and according to multiple reliable sources, he has been charged with human trafficking, rape and forming an organized criminal group. This is relevant info and belongs in the infobox. Pennsylvania2 ( talk) 23:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
News reports agree that Andrew Tate was charged with human trafficking and forming an organized criminal group; but it's unclear whether he's been charged with rape.
I don't think we can say yet that he's been charged with rape. Be careful with misinterpreting media wording like "charged as part of a X, Y, Z investigation", which would list all suspects' charges, not just what he was charged with.. DFlhb ( talk) 23:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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The section about the Thunberg tweet exchange needs improvement in tone, I would suggest changing the present
Unbanned, in December 2022 Tate trolled environmentalist Greta Thunberg with a tweet extolling his carbon-emitting automobiles and asking for her e-mail address to give her more information. She tweeted back that he could "enlighten" her at "smalldickenergy@getalife.com."[51]
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After being unbanned in 2022, Tate posted a tweet in which he tagged Greta Thunberg asking for her email address so he "could send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions". Thunberg replied with "yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com". As of December 29 2022, the tweet by Tate has 193 000 likes, and the tweet by Thunberg has 2,8 million likes, making it the 22nd most liked tweet of all time.[52]
The last line is optional. Erbeilas ( talk) 22:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Tate has been arrested by Romanian officials for sex trafficking, along with Tristian Tate. Could someone with ext confirmation add this? Thank you.
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/29/andrew-tate-brother-arrested-on-sex-trafficking-allegations-report/
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/andrew-tate-arrested-romania-human-trafficking-us-embassy/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/andrew-tate-arrested-suspicion-abducting-28839106
https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-right-influencer-andrew-tate-reportedly-arrested-in-romania-for-rape MyCatIsAChonk ( talk) 23:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Please remove all references to his Dec 2022 arrest until more reliable information is available.
Almost certainly the masses are falling for his trap. After the Gretta thunberg tweet war which received significantly greater media coverage than he anticipated, he most likely had the "fake" arrest prepared to complement the unexpected tweet coverage to get another round of media coverage.
You will notice no handcuffs. He arranged for journalists to be there for the arrest. He paid some actors or used his influence in the region for the police to arrest him and release him an hour later.
I was part of his war Room a year ago. I know how his mind works. Unless you get the NY Times reporting, don't play his BS media game.
You can contact me on x for more information on how he thinks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.241.3.84 ( talk) 23:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Some sources that might be of use in referencing his arrest:
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I like how its specified that he is mixed-race, and that his father is African-American; but it is not specified how his mother is English, or more specifically white English. Calesti ( talk) 16:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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> Thunberg replied with the fake email address "smalldickenergy@getalife.com", causing some confusion, since she sarcastically claimed that the address was her own.
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> Thunberg replied sarcastically with the fake email address "smalldickenergy@getalife.com". Fiafied ( talk) 20:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
We currently say:
This might be minor, but, with this article getting millions of views per day (orders of magnitude more than this summer), I worry that including the above risks leading to harassment of the named journalist. It's not terribly informative; should be keep it? Leaning against. Though I may just be overly cautious. DFlhb ( talk) 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Why is this article using American date formatting and spelling? As far as I can see, this man has spent most of his life in England. It looks weird to use mdy dates and US spelling. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 07:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)