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something really needs to be done about the wiki search. i entered "woman in the dunes" into the search tool. i got no results. because i used lowercase letters. but not only did the "GO" button NOT direct me to the article, the SEARCH TOOL doesn't even come up with any hits or results. this is disgraceful. the wiki search is terrible. i've had other similar experiences: sometimes i can't even find a wiki that I'VE ALREADY READ BEFORE because i'm using a slightly slightly wrong title. for example, if you insert a middle name into a subjects first/last name, the search tool won't find it. it's really shameful, for an online encyclopedia.
I think the synopsis needs to clarify if it is speaking of the book or movie, because there are plot differences to the two stories. I don't have a clear memory of the story to say with confidence that they entry is correct for both of them.
I have read the novel, what can I do? 124.9.0.3 ( talk) 14:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"At the end of the film Junpei gets his chance to escape, but he chooses to prolong his stay in the dune, in part because the woman is already pregnant with his child." That last clause isn't stated in the film; it's the article's inference, at best. The film makes the decision to stay seem absurd, as if Junpei has come to prefer his life in the pit. Perhaps the novel makes the point about the child, but if so, then the film chooses to omit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.85.99 ( talk) 13:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I concur. In the film, one of the village people says that female has an ectopic pregnancy--if this is so, then the fetus would die and, given the poor conditions of the village and the late detection of the problem, it's possible the female's life is at risk as well. As a scientist, Junpei would know this, so his decision to stay in the dune is probably not based on a belief that he's going to be raising a child. I went ahead and deleted the inaccuracy from the entry.
The result of the move request was: 'MOVING
Was already MOVED according to the initial proposal implemented by
Shirt58 based on the improper closure by
TheJack15 who was subject to
WP:MR and foudn to be a
WP:SOCK. As a result, I have stricked his close, and reclosing to tidy up the mess they created. However I believe the accurate consensus is to remove the DAB pages, the parenthetical DABS, and let SMALLDETAILS and TWODABS/HATNOTES prevail. I am pinging
Shirt58 to evaluate and process that move since it requires G6 deletions. (
non-admin closure)
In progress'
TheJack15 (
talk)
10:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
The Woman in the Dunes (film) →
Woman in the Dunes (film) – The Woman in the Dunes is the book. Woman in the Dunes is the film. Similar so still needs "(film)".
Film Fan
22:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus that, in this case, the "small detail" of "The" is sufficient to disambiguate these two articles from each other. There is also a consensus that the novel is the primary topic ahead of the newly created album article. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
– Per the original nom's ( Film Fan's) request above, and to confirm consensus this is a new RM to discuss removing the disambiguation pages, in the spirit of WP:TWODABS and WP:SMALLDETAILS. Note the prior RM was regarding removing "The" from this page which, closed with consensus, however the non-admin closure was performed by a confirmed sock, ( TheJack15). I sent a ping to the admin who performed the G6 move for the sock, Shirt58 however didn't receive a reply so I'm opening this new discussion after about a week. Tiggerjay ( talk) 17:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Beate Sirota Gordon The Only Woman in the Room: A Memoir of Japan 2014 p.148 "Sofu Teshigahara.. whose son directed The Woman in the Dunes"
Conrad Schirokauer, David Lurie, Suzanne Gay A Brief History of Japanese Civilization 2012 p.258 "He is perhaps best known for his novel Woman in the Dunes (1962)"
@ PM800: Regarding your recent cleanup edit, I agree with most of your changes except I'm not so sure about the plot changes. Specifically the removal of the lines "and to have a child with her" and "He requests time to watch the nearby sea, and the villagers offer to grant it if he makes love to the woman while they watch, but she fends him off." Now for the former that's probably just my personal interpretation and redundant to him becoming her husband, but the latter was one of the most intense scenes in the film and important to the plot as a whole which deals with his struggle for freedom and his relation to the women. It shows how he has changed from someone completely rebellious against the villagers to becoming at their mercy, desperate for any respite, even dehumanizing him and her both in the process. Opencooper ( talk) 12:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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something really needs to be done about the wiki search. i entered "woman in the dunes" into the search tool. i got no results. because i used lowercase letters. but not only did the "GO" button NOT direct me to the article, the SEARCH TOOL doesn't even come up with any hits or results. this is disgraceful. the wiki search is terrible. i've had other similar experiences: sometimes i can't even find a wiki that I'VE ALREADY READ BEFORE because i'm using a slightly slightly wrong title. for example, if you insert a middle name into a subjects first/last name, the search tool won't find it. it's really shameful, for an online encyclopedia.
I think the synopsis needs to clarify if it is speaking of the book or movie, because there are plot differences to the two stories. I don't have a clear memory of the story to say with confidence that they entry is correct for both of them.
I have read the novel, what can I do? 124.9.0.3 ( talk) 14:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"At the end of the film Junpei gets his chance to escape, but he chooses to prolong his stay in the dune, in part because the woman is already pregnant with his child." That last clause isn't stated in the film; it's the article's inference, at best. The film makes the decision to stay seem absurd, as if Junpei has come to prefer his life in the pit. Perhaps the novel makes the point about the child, but if so, then the film chooses to omit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.85.99 ( talk) 13:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I concur. In the film, one of the village people says that female has an ectopic pregnancy--if this is so, then the fetus would die and, given the poor conditions of the village and the late detection of the problem, it's possible the female's life is at risk as well. As a scientist, Junpei would know this, so his decision to stay in the dune is probably not based on a belief that he's going to be raising a child. I went ahead and deleted the inaccuracy from the entry.
The result of the move request was: 'MOVING
Was already MOVED according to the initial proposal implemented by
Shirt58 based on the improper closure by
TheJack15 who was subject to
WP:MR and foudn to be a
WP:SOCK. As a result, I have stricked his close, and reclosing to tidy up the mess they created. However I believe the accurate consensus is to remove the DAB pages, the parenthetical DABS, and let SMALLDETAILS and TWODABS/HATNOTES prevail. I am pinging
Shirt58 to evaluate and process that move since it requires G6 deletions. (
non-admin closure)
In progress'
TheJack15 (
talk)
10:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
The Woman in the Dunes (film) →
Woman in the Dunes (film) – The Woman in the Dunes is the book. Woman in the Dunes is the film. Similar so still needs "(film)".
Film Fan
22:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus that, in this case, the "small detail" of "The" is sufficient to disambiguate these two articles from each other. There is also a consensus that the novel is the primary topic ahead of the newly created album article. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
– Per the original nom's ( Film Fan's) request above, and to confirm consensus this is a new RM to discuss removing the disambiguation pages, in the spirit of WP:TWODABS and WP:SMALLDETAILS. Note the prior RM was regarding removing "The" from this page which, closed with consensus, however the non-admin closure was performed by a confirmed sock, ( TheJack15). I sent a ping to the admin who performed the G6 move for the sock, Shirt58 however didn't receive a reply so I'm opening this new discussion after about a week. Tiggerjay ( talk) 17:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Beate Sirota Gordon The Only Woman in the Room: A Memoir of Japan 2014 p.148 "Sofu Teshigahara.. whose son directed The Woman in the Dunes"
Conrad Schirokauer, David Lurie, Suzanne Gay A Brief History of Japanese Civilization 2012 p.258 "He is perhaps best known for his novel Woman in the Dunes (1962)"
@ PM800: Regarding your recent cleanup edit, I agree with most of your changes except I'm not so sure about the plot changes. Specifically the removal of the lines "and to have a child with her" and "He requests time to watch the nearby sea, and the villagers offer to grant it if he makes love to the woman while they watch, but she fends him off." Now for the former that's probably just my personal interpretation and redundant to him becoming her husband, but the latter was one of the most intense scenes in the film and important to the plot as a whole which deals with his struggle for freedom and his relation to the women. It shows how he has changed from someone completely rebellious against the villagers to becoming at their mercy, desperate for any respite, even dehumanizing him and her both in the process. Opencooper ( talk) 12:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 21:07, 30 April 2020 (UTC)