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I propose taking this film out of Start class, now that it has references, a Reception section, etc. Lexein — Preceding undated comment added 14:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the modern equivalent of the original budget be shown? 77.99.57.229 ( talk) 20:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no error or irregularity in Max's books. What Leo points out is that Max's last flop actually made a small "profit", simply because he raised several thousand dollars more than the show cost to produce. This leads to the realization that, as no one is likely to audit the books of a flop, etc, etc, etc. I might rewrite this when I have time.
14:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamSommerwerck ( talk • contribs)
It is some time since I have seen the movie, but from memory the scam involved not only raising more money than the production cost, but inflated shares as well, eg giving 50 people a 30% share each, which I presume is definitely illegal. I can't remember, but did the original 'flop' do this? Wolstan Dixie ( talk) 13:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, Leo says that they have signed contracts for 25,000% of the profits. No, the original flop just raised a few thousand dollars more than needed, which Max casually misappropriated, instead of using it to pay the show's debts or returning it to the investors. Cptbutton ( talk) 18:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Bris is indeed the Yiddish for circumcision, but the character's last name is an obvious pun on the French word debris, commonly used in English to mean wreckage or rubble. Lexo ( talk) 19:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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-- Lexein ( talk) 16:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
The top line says this film is "set in the late 1960s". No, it was made in the late 1960s and set in the present. Mel Brooks did not use a fricking time machine to make this film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.98.188 ( talk) 10:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
In Sweden, however, the title literally translates as "Springtime For Hitler".
What title is this referring to? The context is missing, since The Producers doesn't literally translate into Springtime for Hitler. Instead I found a reference that they changed the title for the Swedish version based on the play within the film and the theme naming often used in that country.
"Theme naming films based on the people involved used to happen somewhat regularly. The best example is arguably Mel Brook‘s filmography. I assume the sentiment was that The Producers was kind of a dull name that translated or not wouldn’t really indicate comedy. The movie was retitled after the play-within-the-film, Det våras för Hitler (Springtime for Hitler). Fair enough, but then they took the Springtime ball and ran with it. The Twelve Chairs became Det våras för svärmor (Springtime for Mother-in-law). Blazing Saddles became Det våras för sheriffen (Springtime for the Sheriff). After that, we got springtimes for Frankenstein, the silent movie, the psychos, the history of the world, Hamlet, space and the slums. The streak was finally broken with Robin Hood: Men in Tights, which got the direct translation Robin Hood: Karlar i trikåer." — Preceding unsigned comment added by HEXdotXXX ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
This line is in the article "According to critic David Ehrenstein, the film marked the first use of the term "Creative Accounting."[26][27] However, a philandering husband uses the term in the 1962 movie "Boys Night Out" when he makes up the name of a class he is supposedly taking." If the film isn't the first to use the term "creative accounting", why even list it here? - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 05:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Just added a copy edit tag; the copy in this article really needs some work, as it currently reads like a book report written by a high school student. -- 345th ( talk) 04:42, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
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A Perry Mason epsiode "The case of the Wary Wildcatter" about a murderous/Blackmailed/Conman who oversells stock in a oil well-which to his shock-pumps oil! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.5.87.37 ( talk) 20:59, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
The movie was officially released in 1968. The info box says "1968". The theatrical release was in 1967. The first lede sentence originally called it a "1967" movie (which I changed to 1968). Do we stick with 1968 (1968 movie, released in 1968) and explain the 1967 discrepancy, or do we call it a 1967 movie and maybe change the infobox to match? - Tenebris 66.11.171.90 ( talk) 19:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've never seen anyone address this. FOARP ( talk) 11:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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In the article it states that after the fraud the duo will flee to Rio de Janeiro. Is this actually mentioned in the original movie? Although I’ve seen it several times over the years, I haven’t in awhile. I don’t recall such a plan being discussed. If it was, then in retrospect it seems a major plot hole. If the idea is to afterwards run, then why even bother with the expense and work of putting on a play, terrible or otherwise? Just collect the money from the investors and book. For that matter, even after the play turned out to be a most unexpected smash they could have fled to Rio anyway if that was the original plan. I thought the idea was that as long as the investors didn’t put their heads together, the plan would work with no one ever suspecting that a fraud even occurred. I assumed Max collected money from old ladies who didn’t know one another. So is this Rio plan in the original movie? Thanks. HistoryBuff14 ( talk)
Yes, Max says that is the plan and even sings briefly about Rio. Cptbutton ( talk) 14:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure how the wikiquote links are generated, but it comes off extremely sloppy if visitors have to go looking for it themselves because the date of the film release keeps getting changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8720:CDC0:B03E:FA48:2138:F882 ( talk) 04:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
The movie came out in the year 1968 and I'm having a great deal of trouble restoring the original title. InsulinRS ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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I propose taking this film out of Start class, now that it has references, a Reception section, etc. Lexein — Preceding undated comment added 14:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the modern equivalent of the original budget be shown? 77.99.57.229 ( talk) 20:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no error or irregularity in Max's books. What Leo points out is that Max's last flop actually made a small "profit", simply because he raised several thousand dollars more than the show cost to produce. This leads to the realization that, as no one is likely to audit the books of a flop, etc, etc, etc. I might rewrite this when I have time.
14:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamSommerwerck ( talk • contribs)
It is some time since I have seen the movie, but from memory the scam involved not only raising more money than the production cost, but inflated shares as well, eg giving 50 people a 30% share each, which I presume is definitely illegal. I can't remember, but did the original 'flop' do this? Wolstan Dixie ( talk) 13:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, Leo says that they have signed contracts for 25,000% of the profits. No, the original flop just raised a few thousand dollars more than needed, which Max casually misappropriated, instead of using it to pay the show's debts or returning it to the investors. Cptbutton ( talk) 18:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Bris is indeed the Yiddish for circumcision, but the character's last name is an obvious pun on the French word debris, commonly used in English to mean wreckage or rubble. Lexo ( talk) 19:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Heavily edited, then moved this text from the article to here for discussion:
-- Lexein ( talk) 16:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
The top line says this film is "set in the late 1960s". No, it was made in the late 1960s and set in the present. Mel Brooks did not use a fricking time machine to make this film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.98.188 ( talk) 10:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
In Sweden, however, the title literally translates as "Springtime For Hitler".
What title is this referring to? The context is missing, since The Producers doesn't literally translate into Springtime for Hitler. Instead I found a reference that they changed the title for the Swedish version based on the play within the film and the theme naming often used in that country.
"Theme naming films based on the people involved used to happen somewhat regularly. The best example is arguably Mel Brook‘s filmography. I assume the sentiment was that The Producers was kind of a dull name that translated or not wouldn’t really indicate comedy. The movie was retitled after the play-within-the-film, Det våras för Hitler (Springtime for Hitler). Fair enough, but then they took the Springtime ball and ran with it. The Twelve Chairs became Det våras för svärmor (Springtime for Mother-in-law). Blazing Saddles became Det våras för sheriffen (Springtime for the Sheriff). After that, we got springtimes for Frankenstein, the silent movie, the psychos, the history of the world, Hamlet, space and the slums. The streak was finally broken with Robin Hood: Men in Tights, which got the direct translation Robin Hood: Karlar i trikåer." — Preceding unsigned comment added by HEXdotXXX ( talk • contribs) 05:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
This line is in the article "According to critic David Ehrenstein, the film marked the first use of the term "Creative Accounting."[26][27] However, a philandering husband uses the term in the 1962 movie "Boys Night Out" when he makes up the name of a class he is supposedly taking." If the film isn't the first to use the term "creative accounting", why even list it here? - Xcuref1endx ( talk) 05:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Just added a copy edit tag; the copy in this article really needs some work, as it currently reads like a book report written by a high school student. -- 345th ( talk) 04:42, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
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The movie was officially released in 1968. The info box says "1968". The theatrical release was in 1967. The first lede sentence originally called it a "1967" movie (which I changed to 1968). Do we stick with 1968 (1968 movie, released in 1968) and explain the 1967 discrepancy, or do we call it a 1967 movie and maybe change the infobox to match? - Tenebris 66.11.171.90 ( talk) 19:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I've never seen anyone address this. FOARP ( talk) 11:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Cptbutton ( talk) 15:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
In the article it states that after the fraud the duo will flee to Rio de Janeiro. Is this actually mentioned in the original movie? Although I’ve seen it several times over the years, I haven’t in awhile. I don’t recall such a plan being discussed. If it was, then in retrospect it seems a major plot hole. If the idea is to afterwards run, then why even bother with the expense and work of putting on a play, terrible or otherwise? Just collect the money from the investors and book. For that matter, even after the play turned out to be a most unexpected smash they could have fled to Rio anyway if that was the original plan. I thought the idea was that as long as the investors didn’t put their heads together, the plan would work with no one ever suspecting that a fraud even occurred. I assumed Max collected money from old ladies who didn’t know one another. So is this Rio plan in the original movie? Thanks. HistoryBuff14 ( talk)
Yes, Max says that is the plan and even sings briefly about Rio. Cptbutton ( talk) 14:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure how the wikiquote links are generated, but it comes off extremely sloppy if visitors have to go looking for it themselves because the date of the film release keeps getting changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8720:CDC0:B03E:FA48:2138:F882 ( talk) 04:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
The movie came out in the year 1968 and I'm having a great deal of trouble restoring the original title. InsulinRS ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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