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There's a remake in progress: http://www.tsubaki-sanjyuro.jp/ -- 72.70.50.238 23:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Tsubaki Sanjūrō → Sanjuro – Standard English title Girolamo Savonarola 07:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Moved. Nightstallion 08:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Much of the plot summary reads like a review. Can it be re-written to be less subjective? - CaptainJae ( talk) 20:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't remember any such explanation. On the contrary, he says "nearly forty", apparently referring to his age (and a later line plays on this). — Tamfang ( talk) 05:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
That's also not quite literally right. 三十 sanjū means thirty, no question there. But 郎 –rō does not mean "years old"; it is a common suffix in male given names, often preceded by a number – first son, second son, … – so if anything the composition would seem to mean "30th son". (Perhaps his real name ended with rō, or he took that syllable from rōnin.) — Tamfang ( talk) 05:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Are there any clues? I'm wondering if this Sanjuro is the same character from Yojimbo. 97.118.63.76 ( talk) 09:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The character is supposed to be the same character and the film was marketed as a direct sequel to 'Yojimbo'. The fact that wikipedians here seem to be reluctant to call it a direct sequel is quite staggering...and pretty amusing. The Mummy ( talk) 06:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
As to the title question, such movies typically are set in the Edo Period. One of the Zatoichi series has, early on, a written caption naming Tenpō era iirc. (This is not a reliable answer, but OP did ask for "clues".) — Tamfang ( talk) 16:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
The plot section contains the line " The group take refuge in a house within the chamberlain's compound".I don't have a copy of the film to hand, but from memory, when the women are freed they first go to a barn in the compound - with the hay - then climb the wall out of the compound, then go to the house of one of the Nine. I think there is a bit of discussion about the merits of hiding in a house next door to Muroto's house. As I said this is all from memory, so I didn't want to change the line in the article in case I am wrong. Idealfarmer ( talk) 17:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Some busy person removed my link so I'll put it here until the article is finished.
Reiko Dan
JoshuSasori (
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15:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
It's very surprising to me that anyone thinks this film is a straight sequel to Yojimbo. There is absolutely nothing in the film which suggests that it is a continuation of the earlier story. Can you justify this in simple terms? JoshuSasori ( talk) 22:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
It is a shame that you consider long time Kurosawa scholar Donald Richie or film critic Michael Sragow or the people interviewed in the documentary including Tatsuya Nakadai, production designer Yoshiro Muraki, and longtime Kurosawa collaborator Teruyo Nogami (all of whom worked on the film) as "lazy people" since they all point out the sequel nature of this film. It is a shame that you don't see them as reliable sources for WikiP's purposes. It may be obvious to you that this isn't a sequel but please do not speak for other people. Especially since more that a few of them do see it as a sequel. Perhaps your understanding will deepen as the years go by or it won't I will still wish you well in your continued editing her. MarnetteD | Talk 23:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
-- Anyone thought of contacting the mods about Joshu's behaviour? He is turning this article into one about his own personal bias, because he doesn't know what sequels actually are. A sequel is a film which features the same central character usually, and usually doesn't continue the actual plot of the first movies. The Sanjuro of both films is the same character, his personality is the same, he dresses the same (including the same mon) and he has the personal name and picks a family name based on a different aspect of nature. A thematic sequel is one in which the same themes are present but no element of the preceding film is featured, so no characters or locations, only the film.
JoshuSasori has taken up ownership of this page because he has a poor understanding of what a sequel is, and he is on an power trip and wants to feel important by taking over this article. I have dealt with people like him before. In fact, I'm contacting moderators myself as he is trying to start an edit war and acting like a wiki-dragon. He is a disgrace to encyclopaedians, to be blunt. - The Mummy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.111.232 ( talk) 03:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
There are numerous sources out there that meet Wikipedia's standards stating that this film, at the very least, is a thematic sequel to Yojimbo. One editor feels that all of these should be discounted. Because they are lazy or something. The Wikipedia community should help in coming to a consensus on this so any input will be appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 07:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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There's a remake in progress: http://www.tsubaki-sanjyuro.jp/ -- 72.70.50.238 23:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Tsubaki Sanjūrō → Sanjuro – Standard English title Girolamo Savonarola 07:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Moved. Nightstallion 08:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Much of the plot summary reads like a review. Can it be re-written to be less subjective? - CaptainJae ( talk) 20:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't remember any such explanation. On the contrary, he says "nearly forty", apparently referring to his age (and a later line plays on this). — Tamfang ( talk) 05:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
That's also not quite literally right. 三十 sanjū means thirty, no question there. But 郎 –rō does not mean "years old"; it is a common suffix in male given names, often preceded by a number – first son, second son, … – so if anything the composition would seem to mean "30th son". (Perhaps his real name ended with rō, or he took that syllable from rōnin.) — Tamfang ( talk) 05:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Are there any clues? I'm wondering if this Sanjuro is the same character from Yojimbo. 97.118.63.76 ( talk) 09:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The character is supposed to be the same character and the film was marketed as a direct sequel to 'Yojimbo'. The fact that wikipedians here seem to be reluctant to call it a direct sequel is quite staggering...and pretty amusing. The Mummy ( talk) 06:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
As to the title question, such movies typically are set in the Edo Period. One of the Zatoichi series has, early on, a written caption naming Tenpō era iirc. (This is not a reliable answer, but OP did ask for "clues".) — Tamfang ( talk) 16:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
The plot section contains the line " The group take refuge in a house within the chamberlain's compound".I don't have a copy of the film to hand, but from memory, when the women are freed they first go to a barn in the compound - with the hay - then climb the wall out of the compound, then go to the house of one of the Nine. I think there is a bit of discussion about the merits of hiding in a house next door to Muroto's house. As I said this is all from memory, so I didn't want to change the line in the article in case I am wrong. Idealfarmer ( talk) 17:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Some busy person removed my link so I'll put it here until the article is finished.
Reiko Dan
JoshuSasori (
talk)
15:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
It's very surprising to me that anyone thinks this film is a straight sequel to Yojimbo. There is absolutely nothing in the film which suggests that it is a continuation of the earlier story. Can you justify this in simple terms? JoshuSasori ( talk) 22:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
It is a shame that you consider long time Kurosawa scholar Donald Richie or film critic Michael Sragow or the people interviewed in the documentary including Tatsuya Nakadai, production designer Yoshiro Muraki, and longtime Kurosawa collaborator Teruyo Nogami (all of whom worked on the film) as "lazy people" since they all point out the sequel nature of this film. It is a shame that you don't see them as reliable sources for WikiP's purposes. It may be obvious to you that this isn't a sequel but please do not speak for other people. Especially since more that a few of them do see it as a sequel. Perhaps your understanding will deepen as the years go by or it won't I will still wish you well in your continued editing her. MarnetteD | Talk 23:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
-- Anyone thought of contacting the mods about Joshu's behaviour? He is turning this article into one about his own personal bias, because he doesn't know what sequels actually are. A sequel is a film which features the same central character usually, and usually doesn't continue the actual plot of the first movies. The Sanjuro of both films is the same character, his personality is the same, he dresses the same (including the same mon) and he has the personal name and picks a family name based on a different aspect of nature. A thematic sequel is one in which the same themes are present but no element of the preceding film is featured, so no characters or locations, only the film.
JoshuSasori has taken up ownership of this page because he has a poor understanding of what a sequel is, and he is on an power trip and wants to feel important by taking over this article. I have dealt with people like him before. In fact, I'm contacting moderators myself as he is trying to start an edit war and acting like a wiki-dragon. He is a disgrace to encyclopaedians, to be blunt. - The Mummy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.111.232 ( talk) 03:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
There are numerous sources out there that meet Wikipedia's standards stating that this film, at the very least, is a thematic sequel to Yojimbo. One editor feels that all of these should be discounted. Because they are lazy or something. The Wikipedia community should help in coming to a consensus on this so any input will be appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 07:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)