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Re this repeated removal, "abuse is not hostility"?? I see both of these as well-sourced examples of "accusations of hostility". Why is "controversy" also required. That's just part of the section heading? Martinevans123 ( talk) 23:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Considering the present cover image on the article is from an issue over a decade old, maybe this is due for a more semi-recent fair use image to replace it, perhaps. Shawn Is Here: Now in colors 05:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
The name of the late David Austin's "Hom Sap" cartoon, about a Greek philosopher, obviously was short for "homo sapiens," but it also recalled the common saying "verb sap," which is short for "verbum sapienti satis est." A word, to the wise, is enough: itself shortened. Private Eye's founders were all from the time when schoolboys were taught Latin, and to them the phrase was familiar and needed no explanation. Before adding this to the list of in-jokes, I really need a reference to the original saying. I had assumed it came from Horace, but it was already familiar in his time. Apparently it occurs in both Plautus and Terence, who both wrote more than a century earlier. Can anyone dig deeper? NRPanikker ( talk) 00:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, no, he didn't. Ben Goldacre did not formally interview him for any of his Guardian or Bad Science columns. The reference verifying this claim ultimately goes to https://web.archive.org/web/20081012165445/https://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/#comment-22012 , which is comment #57 on one of Ben Goldacre's articles, where Ben Goldacre is chatting with his blog readers. The current incarnation of the blog has wiped the comments at some point. Ben Goldacre said: "i met ian hislop once - obviously i was just slightly starstruck - and he had some kind of story about how private eye aren’t really anti-mmr. i can’t remember what it was so it might have been a bit tortuous.". This isn't a solid reference.
The nearest things I can find are:
Due to Hislop's equivocation, and the lack of a reliable source, I'm deleting that sentence. The subsequent paragraph of MD's column is a more reliable source of the magazine's conciliatory attitude to the vaccine. 213.31.88.122 ( talk) 04:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Re this repeated removal, "abuse is not hostility"?? I see both of these as well-sourced examples of "accusations of hostility". Why is "controversy" also required. That's just part of the section heading? Martinevans123 ( talk) 23:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Considering the present cover image on the article is from an issue over a decade old, maybe this is due for a more semi-recent fair use image to replace it, perhaps. Shawn Is Here: Now in colors 05:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
The name of the late David Austin's "Hom Sap" cartoon, about a Greek philosopher, obviously was short for "homo sapiens," but it also recalled the common saying "verb sap," which is short for "verbum sapienti satis est." A word, to the wise, is enough: itself shortened. Private Eye's founders were all from the time when schoolboys were taught Latin, and to them the phrase was familiar and needed no explanation. Before adding this to the list of in-jokes, I really need a reference to the original saying. I had assumed it came from Horace, but it was already familiar in his time. Apparently it occurs in both Plautus and Terence, who both wrote more than a century earlier. Can anyone dig deeper? NRPanikker ( talk) 00:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, no, he didn't. Ben Goldacre did not formally interview him for any of his Guardian or Bad Science columns. The reference verifying this claim ultimately goes to https://web.archive.org/web/20081012165445/https://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/#comment-22012 , which is comment #57 on one of Ben Goldacre's articles, where Ben Goldacre is chatting with his blog readers. The current incarnation of the blog has wiped the comments at some point. Ben Goldacre said: "i met ian hislop once - obviously i was just slightly starstruck - and he had some kind of story about how private eye aren’t really anti-mmr. i can’t remember what it was so it might have been a bit tortuous.". This isn't a solid reference.
The nearest things I can find are:
Due to Hislop's equivocation, and the lack of a reliable source, I'm deleting that sentence. The subsequent paragraph of MD's column is a more reliable source of the magazine's conciliatory attitude to the vaccine. 213.31.88.122 ( talk) 04:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)