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How come there is no mention for the Lotus flower in the ancient egyptian civilization ?? Dr B2 ( talk) 11:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
In Korea, the leaves and petals are used as a tisane. Yeonkkotcha (연꽃차) is made with dried petals of white lotus and yeonipcha (연잎차) is made with the leaves.
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The entry name or the first or second sentence should include the phrase "like many flowery aquatic plants, commonly called a water lily" 2606:6000:669C:4700:2D52:A781:399E:B768 ( talk) 00:26, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Seeing as all other cultural significances originate in the far east and as this species is not native to the land of Israel or the middle east in general (although its relatives are), the significance in Christianity drew my eye. After reading the original biblical hebrew version of the two verses brought in the text and the verses before and after, the english translation given seems to be wrong. Original verses:
(כא) תַּחַת־צֶאֱלִים יִשְׁכָּב בְּסֵתֶר קָנֶה וּבִצָּה׃ (כב) יְסֻכֻּהוּ צֶאֱלִים צִלֲלוֹ יְסֻבּוּהוּ עַרְבֵי־נָחַל
This seems to be speaking about the place where beasts (as in large four legged animals) live. In the verses, the beast is lying under 'Tsehelim' (the word wrongly translated as lotus) and this is giving its shadow upon it. I think it's obvious that the lotus plant can not give shadow upon cattle, sheep, camals etc. The word 'Tsehelim' itself quite probably originates in the hebrew word for shadow 'Tsel' and most of the interpretations I read agree that this is either a general word for trees that give shade or the name of a specific tree (that has since been lost in time, either acacia as in contemporary hebrew or ziziphus or some other tree).
So both in terms of distribution and in terms of the text I think it's quite clear that the paragraph about significance for Christianity is wrong. 94.4.255.79 ( talk) 14:14, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
I see two unsourced claims, one in the lede and one in the Classification section, about how the lotus is colloquially referred to as a water lily (which scientifically of course is a completely different thing). These seem to have been preserved over several years due to the persistence of one or a few editors. However, I do not see, nor have I been able to find, any source backing these claims up. As WP:NOTFORUM notes, we cannot define our own terms in Wikipedia. As these claims have been up for several years and do not yet have a source, I suggest that they be removed. taulover ( talk) 21:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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How come there is no mention for the Lotus flower in the ancient egyptian civilization ?? Dr B2 ( talk) 11:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
In Korea, the leaves and petals are used as a tisane. Yeonkkotcha (연꽃차) is made with dried petals of white lotus and yeonipcha (연잎차) is made with the leaves.
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The entry name or the first or second sentence should include the phrase "like many flowery aquatic plants, commonly called a water lily" 2606:6000:669C:4700:2D52:A781:399E:B768 ( talk) 00:26, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Seeing as all other cultural significances originate in the far east and as this species is not native to the land of Israel or the middle east in general (although its relatives are), the significance in Christianity drew my eye. After reading the original biblical hebrew version of the two verses brought in the text and the verses before and after, the english translation given seems to be wrong. Original verses:
(כא) תַּחַת־צֶאֱלִים יִשְׁכָּב בְּסֵתֶר קָנֶה וּבִצָּה׃ (כב) יְסֻכֻּהוּ צֶאֱלִים צִלֲלוֹ יְסֻבּוּהוּ עַרְבֵי־נָחַל
This seems to be speaking about the place where beasts (as in large four legged animals) live. In the verses, the beast is lying under 'Tsehelim' (the word wrongly translated as lotus) and this is giving its shadow upon it. I think it's obvious that the lotus plant can not give shadow upon cattle, sheep, camals etc. The word 'Tsehelim' itself quite probably originates in the hebrew word for shadow 'Tsel' and most of the interpretations I read agree that this is either a general word for trees that give shade or the name of a specific tree (that has since been lost in time, either acacia as in contemporary hebrew or ziziphus or some other tree).
So both in terms of distribution and in terms of the text I think it's quite clear that the paragraph about significance for Christianity is wrong. 94.4.255.79 ( talk) 14:14, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
I see two unsourced claims, one in the lede and one in the Classification section, about how the lotus is colloquially referred to as a water lily (which scientifically of course is a completely different thing). These seem to have been preserved over several years due to the persistence of one or a few editors. However, I do not see, nor have I been able to find, any source backing these claims up. As WP:NOTFORUM notes, we cannot define our own terms in Wikipedia. As these claims have been up for several years and do not yet have a source, I suggest that they be removed. taulover ( talk) 21:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)