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Lwów dialect of Polish language is more appropriate, because people spoke and speak other languages also, not Polish only. These city dialects had and have their specific features. -- Russianname 16:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Halibutt, there is no need to be so stubborn and refuse to give an inch. We had this discussions about your inability to compromise. Ever. The current title is bad. How would you call the article about the city dialect of Ukrainian? Do you mean that the reader would have to figure that from Lwow dialect vs Lviv dialect? And how would you call the article about the city variety of Yiddish? This article is already iwikied to the Ukrainian article about the city variety of Ukrainian. And this is all due to your stubborness and refusal to recognize that other languages also had their varieties pertaining to this great city. Please let one inch and try not to chase away contributors. The great Polish language won't suffer from this article being called the Lwow dialect of Polish language a least bit. -- Irpen 17:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), there is no need to go into all the details in the title. Unless we need to disambiguate between Polish Lwów dialect and some other Lwów dialect, the current title seems fine.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Piotrus, that the title is fine for now. But if someone creates an article on the Ukrainian or other dialect of the city then it should probably be made clearer somehow. Ostap 22:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I have several point to make on this field. First, Lwów dialect of the Polish language is a local variety of the Polish language characteristic of the inhabitants of the city of Lwów (Lviv), now Ukraine. definition should be referenced with exact quotes. Second, can any body clearly state, by using linguistic sources, that this so called Lwow dialect is limited only to city itself, without broader region. Rereading discussion over name, I have to note that title misleads reader indeed, adding of Polish language may help. Besides if dialect is a live today in the city why use polonized city name? M.K. 19:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW, now that we're in linguistic society here, do you have any idea how to classify this dialect? In all publications it's named simply a dialect, without any details. Above one of you called it an sociolect, while I always thought of it as an ethnolect. Any ideas? // Halibu tt 18:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I'm from east of Poland (województwo Podkarpackie, powiat Lubaczowski). We speak here in polish, but we have some "our" words. There is no difference in grammar (just some plural forms we do by something like sound between "i" and "e"). I think, that it isn't "Lwów dialect", but dialect of "kresy". I hope, that it isn't going do extinct :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.164.189 ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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Lwów dialect of Polish language is more appropriate, because people spoke and speak other languages also, not Polish only. These city dialects had and have their specific features. -- Russianname 16:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Halibutt, there is no need to be so stubborn and refuse to give an inch. We had this discussions about your inability to compromise. Ever. The current title is bad. How would you call the article about the city dialect of Ukrainian? Do you mean that the reader would have to figure that from Lwow dialect vs Lviv dialect? And how would you call the article about the city variety of Yiddish? This article is already iwikied to the Ukrainian article about the city variety of Ukrainian. And this is all due to your stubborness and refusal to recognize that other languages also had their varieties pertaining to this great city. Please let one inch and try not to chase away contributors. The great Polish language won't suffer from this article being called the Lwow dialect of Polish language a least bit. -- Irpen 17:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), there is no need to go into all the details in the title. Unless we need to disambiguate between Polish Lwów dialect and some other Lwów dialect, the current title seems fine.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Piotrus, that the title is fine for now. But if someone creates an article on the Ukrainian or other dialect of the city then it should probably be made clearer somehow. Ostap 22:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I have several point to make on this field. First, Lwów dialect of the Polish language is a local variety of the Polish language characteristic of the inhabitants of the city of Lwów (Lviv), now Ukraine. definition should be referenced with exact quotes. Second, can any body clearly state, by using linguistic sources, that this so called Lwow dialect is limited only to city itself, without broader region. Rereading discussion over name, I have to note that title misleads reader indeed, adding of Polish language may help. Besides if dialect is a live today in the city why use polonized city name? M.K. 19:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW, now that we're in linguistic society here, do you have any idea how to classify this dialect? In all publications it's named simply a dialect, without any details. Above one of you called it an sociolect, while I always thought of it as an ethnolect. Any ideas? // Halibu tt 18:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I'm from east of Poland (województwo Podkarpackie, powiat Lubaczowski). We speak here in polish, but we have some "our" words. There is no difference in grammar (just some plural forms we do by something like sound between "i" and "e"). I think, that it isn't "Lwów dialect", but dialect of "kresy". I hope, that it isn't going do extinct :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.164.189 ( talk) 23:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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