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I don't think that it should be called an invasion.-- Jerrypp772000 21:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Then what would you call it? Kc0616 13:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone want to rename this article? Serious, I don't really mind if people think the name does not go with the article. Kc0616 16:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Can someone sort out a list of battles of significance in chronological order? I'm really having problem with that. Kc0616 08:55, 21 June 2007
Possible future references: [1]
I've just added a reference at the end of the article to the resistance led by Lin Shao-mao, based on an internet biography which I've not got a link to but which can be found easily enough. I hope someone will write an article on him, he deserves one.
Djwilms ( talk) 09:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've now added a link to the article in question.
Djwilms ( talk) 06:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has been tagged since April 2008 for lacking citations. I have now provided a list of references and have added citations for most paragraphs. I will be adding more over the next few weeks. I have therefore removed the tag, as I believe that the article is now adequately footnoted.
Djwilms ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I've done a fair bit of work now on overhauling this article and providing citations for statements of fact, and I'm nearly ready to submit it for upgrading. One thing it needs, though, is more pictures. Does anybody happen to have any stirring Chinese or Japanese action pictures from the campaign? I've had no problem illustrating my Sino-French War articles, but apart from photos of the main actors and that blurry photo of Japanese cavalry entering Taipei I have come across very little for this campaign. Davidson has a few rather boring photos of forts, and some ludicrous Chinese propaganda cartoons showing Liu Yung-fu and his braves slaughtering the Japanese dwarves, and I might have to resort to them if I can't find anything better. Any suggestions gratefully received.
Djwilms ( talk) 01:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The current use of word "invasion" is inconsistent with policy WP:NPOV. I suggest renaming the title as one of the following, and the year can be omitted.
-- Matt Smith ( talk) 11:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
If no one has different opinions, I will go ahead and perform the redirection tomorrow. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 15:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
An invasion is a military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity.I guess this falls under an invasion. -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 08:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I just found a more neutral alternative from the article -- "Japanese operations in Taiwan". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
To sum up, because "invasion" can imply ownership of territory and violates the policy WP:NPOV, I would like to propose that the word be changed to "conquest", as used in the second paragraph of p. 105 of this source. If anyone has different opinions based on policies, please express your opinions. Or I will perform the redirection after several days. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 11:13, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Please participate the discussion further in Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Wording_issue:_Invasion_vs_Conquest. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 13:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Although the discussion at WT:MILHIST is still in progress, I would like to propose a more neutral candidate: "Japanese takeover of Taiwan". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 08:55, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
as used in the second paragraph of p. 105 of this source" to see my citation above. And here is one more source. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Just to point out, decent reliable sources would be ones devoted to, or largely on the subject of the article, by a reliable historian (or similar), less so from passing references like the ones you've mentioned; "Understanding Church Growth" or "Legal Reform in Taiwan under Japanese Colonial Rule". ( Hohum @) 18:12, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
less so from passing referencesin an easily scrutable way? Thanks. I'm a non-native English speaker so sometimes I'm unable to understand inscrutable English grammars. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:54, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
After some searches, I found that the amount of "Japanese invasion of Taiwan" is larger than the amount of "Japanese conquest of Taiwan". However, in this source, which was an exhibition about the event in 1895, I noticed that "Japanese conquest of Taiwan" was used to refer to the outcome and "the invasion of Taiwan" was used to refer to the beginning. So it seems that the outcome is less referred to.
Anyway, I have no objection if the consensus thinks it's fine to use "Japanese invasion of Taiwan", though I personally still think that is as odd as saying "My invasion of my island". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 12:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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I don't think that it should be called an invasion.-- Jerrypp772000 21:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Then what would you call it? Kc0616 13:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone want to rename this article? Serious, I don't really mind if people think the name does not go with the article. Kc0616 16:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Can someone sort out a list of battles of significance in chronological order? I'm really having problem with that. Kc0616 08:55, 21 June 2007
Possible future references: [1]
I've just added a reference at the end of the article to the resistance led by Lin Shao-mao, based on an internet biography which I've not got a link to but which can be found easily enough. I hope someone will write an article on him, he deserves one.
Djwilms ( talk) 09:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've now added a link to the article in question.
Djwilms ( talk) 06:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
This article has been tagged since April 2008 for lacking citations. I have now provided a list of references and have added citations for most paragraphs. I will be adding more over the next few weeks. I have therefore removed the tag, as I believe that the article is now adequately footnoted.
Djwilms ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I've done a fair bit of work now on overhauling this article and providing citations for statements of fact, and I'm nearly ready to submit it for upgrading. One thing it needs, though, is more pictures. Does anybody happen to have any stirring Chinese or Japanese action pictures from the campaign? I've had no problem illustrating my Sino-French War articles, but apart from photos of the main actors and that blurry photo of Japanese cavalry entering Taipei I have come across very little for this campaign. Davidson has a few rather boring photos of forts, and some ludicrous Chinese propaganda cartoons showing Liu Yung-fu and his braves slaughtering the Japanese dwarves, and I might have to resort to them if I can't find anything better. Any suggestions gratefully received.
Djwilms ( talk) 01:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The current use of word "invasion" is inconsistent with policy WP:NPOV. I suggest renaming the title as one of the following, and the year can be omitted.
-- Matt Smith ( talk) 11:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
If no one has different opinions, I will go ahead and perform the redirection tomorrow. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 15:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
An invasion is a military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity.I guess this falls under an invasion. -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 08:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I just found a more neutral alternative from the article -- "Japanese operations in Taiwan". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
To sum up, because "invasion" can imply ownership of territory and violates the policy WP:NPOV, I would like to propose that the word be changed to "conquest", as used in the second paragraph of p. 105 of this source. If anyone has different opinions based on policies, please express your opinions. Or I will perform the redirection after several days. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 11:13, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Please participate the discussion further in Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Wording_issue:_Invasion_vs_Conquest. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 13:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Although the discussion at WT:MILHIST is still in progress, I would like to propose a more neutral candidate: "Japanese takeover of Taiwan". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 08:55, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
as used in the second paragraph of p. 105 of this source" to see my citation above. And here is one more source. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Just to point out, decent reliable sources would be ones devoted to, or largely on the subject of the article, by a reliable historian (or similar), less so from passing references like the ones you've mentioned; "Understanding Church Growth" or "Legal Reform in Taiwan under Japanese Colonial Rule". ( Hohum @) 18:12, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
less so from passing referencesin an easily scrutable way? Thanks. I'm a non-native English speaker so sometimes I'm unable to understand inscrutable English grammars. -- Matt Smith ( talk) 02:54, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
After some searches, I found that the amount of "Japanese invasion of Taiwan" is larger than the amount of "Japanese conquest of Taiwan". However, in this source, which was an exhibition about the event in 1895, I noticed that "Japanese conquest of Taiwan" was used to refer to the outcome and "the invasion of Taiwan" was used to refer to the beginning. So it seems that the outcome is less referred to.
Anyway, I have no objection if the consensus thinks it's fine to use "Japanese invasion of Taiwan", though I personally still think that is as odd as saying "My invasion of my island". -- Matt Smith ( talk) 12:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)