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The last sentence of the history section says:
"India's sustained democratic freedoms are unique among the world's newer nations; however, in spite of its recent economic successes, freedom from want for its disadvantaged population remains a goal yet to be achieved."
I find it difficult to understand what this sentence is trying to say. Is it trying to say that people in India want its disadvantaged population and being free from this 'want' is a goal not achieved. Or, is it trying to say that disadvantaged population of India wants several things in their lives, and making them free of this 'want' is a goal not achieved.
The source simply points out that we would not claim that work is complete in regards to poverty eradication, and this poverty limits freedom of a huge number of people in India.
I think the source could be probably paraphrased in a better way. Or, is 'Freedom from want' a common technical concept that I am unaware of? Rahul ( talk) 15:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
whether you agree with it or not, the claim that a country is a "democracy" is a statement of political ideology, and not a simple fact about which an article lede can claim to report objective statistics. i don't necessarily believe it isn't true, but I don't think it should be listed next to uncontroversial facts. 128.114.255.157 ( talk) 06:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
I just want to put this out there hoping somebody might do something about this. There are FAR too many links in this article, especially in the lead. So many, it was totally unreadable for me personally. So much so I actually found a Firefox addon to strip the link styling completely from the page. Most readers wouldn't know to do what I did and, if they have the same issue I do with too much style changing, won't bother reading the utter mess I encountered before I found the extension.
Can someone please take some time to minimize the links on this page? The way it is now is just ridiculous. 2601:18C:4300:84E0:D81C:F778:C17F:1DA7 ( talk) 04:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
This article was listed as need a Featured article review about three years ago. There are still too many images with MOS:SANDWICHing and poor layout, the lead is too long, Administrative divisions is an unnecessary list which could be simply summarized from the sub-article, there is still dated information (eg "The 522-million-worker Indian labour force is the world's second-largest, as of 2017" and "According to a 2011 PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) report, India's GDP at purchasing power parity could overtake that of the United States by 2045"), it is easy to spot content that could be in sub-articles rather than here (eg, "Averaging an economic growth rate of 7.5% for several years prior to 2007," from Economy, and almost every section can be trimmed. Some of the footnotes are so long that copyright concerns might be raised. The layout in the government section is a list sandwiched between an image and a table. It doesn't seem that the work that needed to be done three years ago has been undertaken; trimming, tightening, and taming the images, plus bringing the lead down. The Featured article review should proceed. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 07:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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India politics
The current President Dr. Kamaljit Das. Dasriju ( talk) 12:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC) Replace Dr. Kamaljit Das as incumbent President of India in lieu of Drupadi Murmu
Dr.Kamaljit Das the current President of India. Dasriju ( talk) 12:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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{{subst:trim|1= official_languages = {{hlist | No official laguage in india| English [a] Tamil Asad ( talk) 10:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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Please change the flag to India flag. Someone put the pakistani flag on the india article. Vijayallenraj ( talk) 04:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change the language of the anthem and national song from Hindi and Sanskrit, respectively, to Bengali (and maybe Sanskrit). "This source", currently used in the article, is apparently controversial, according to this news article. There are references online that mention the anthem having been written in Bengali and sometimes also Sanskrit (e.g. here, here, and here). Also, this report from the Constituent Assembly debates on January 24, 1950, mentions a Hindi translation of the Constitution, but not a "Hindi version" of the national anthem. Unless a different document mentions it, the reference to a "Hindi version" appears to be inaccurate. It's common knowledge in India that the national anthem was written in Bengali, though I don't have a written source for that. The page Jana Gana Mana also mentions that it was written in Bengali, and that it was adopted by the Constituent Assembly, but not that it was adopted in Hindi. The confusion might have arisen because, according to Jana Gana Mana, there are official lyrics in the Devanagari script, which is commonly associated with Hindi (though other languages use it too), but that is a transliteration, not a translation. Also, jaage, maage, and gaahe are all recognizably Bengali third-person singular verbs, not Hindi or Sanskrit verbs, while the noun naame is a Bengali locative, but as far as I know not a valid word in either Hindi or Sanskrit (the locative singular of naaman can be either naamni or naamani in Sanskrit). "Vande Mataram" is written in Bengali according to this, and in Bengali and Sanskrit according to Vande Mataram. For the national song, it's a complicated issue, as seen here. Htysc ( talk) 06:57, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Mention 'ganges' as 'ganga' it's more realibleakankshavishwas 132.154.58.254 ( talk) 15:49, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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Change India to Bharat MrBoyBoyBoy ( talk) 11:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
India that is BharatThe name of the country is both India and Bharat. In the Indian constitution it is 'India that is Bharat' , should be added as such in the lead. Note : Bhārat Gaṇarājya is the name in it's official language which is added , but the second name of the nation ,Bharat, mentioned in it's constitution is not added The lead should be : India that is Bharat, officially the Republic of India (ISO: Bhārat Gaṇarājya), is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area; the most populous country as of June 2022 Afv12e ( talk) 17:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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The name of the country is both India and Bharat. In the Indian constitution it is 'India that is Bharat' , should be added as such in the lead. [1] Note : Bhārat Gaṇarājya is the name in it's official language which is added , but the second name of the nation ,Bharat, mentioned in it's constitution is not added The lead should be : India that is Bharat, officially the Republic of India (ISO: Bhārat Gaṇarājya), is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area; the most populous country as of June 202 Afv12e ( talk) 02:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Clarify The History of the IndiaThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. The actual Indian History starts from the Ancient kingdoms called Mahajanpad's but on the Wikipedia page it is starting From it's independence from UK Which is so bad as a country with this vast history and a strong culture who has historic background not even imaginable to many. So it is my request to Wikipedia to add the Mahajanpadas and many later major kingdoms, empires ( native empires and kingdoms for example the Cholas, hoysala's, Rashtrakutas, Rajputana and Marathas as well as empires and kingdoms established by foreign power's such as Delhi sultanate, moghuls etc) so pls consider my request to avoid wrong information about the Indian History 🇮🇳🙏 The Indoman 360 ( talk) 17:29, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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(Clarifying my edit request from November) Please change the language of the national anthem from Hindi and Sanskrit, respectively, to Bengali. This source, currently used in the article, is controversial, according to this news article. Apart from that source, the anthem is consistently characterized as having been written in Bengali (e.g. here, here, and here). Also, this report from the Constituent Assembly debates on January 24, 1950, mentions a Hindi translation of the Constitution, but not a "Hindi version" of the national anthem. Unless a different document mentions it, the reference to a "Hindi version" appears to be inaccurate. It's common knowledge in India that the national anthem was written in Bengali, though I don't have a written source for that. The page Jana Gana Mana (citing various sources) also mentions that it was written in Bengali, and that it was adopted by the Constituent Assembly, but not that it was adopted in Hindi. The confusion might have arisen because, according to Jana Gana Mana, there are official lyrics in the Devanagari script, which is commonly associated with Hindi (though other languages use it too), but that is a transliteration, not a translation. Also, jaage, maage, and gaahe are all recognizably Bengali third-person singular verbs, not Hindi or Sanskrit verbs, while the noun naame is a Bengali locative, but as far as I know not a valid word in either Hindi or Sanskrit (the locative singular of naaman can be either naamni or naamani in Sanskrit). Htysc ( talk) 23:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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To the EDITORS of wikepedia this is a request to add Indian sub-continent along side the word South Asia because this could lead to many misinformation and can be mis-interpreted in lot of ways. This request purely based on intellectual intrest because the term Indian sub-continent has always been used before. Thankyou you very much for giving your time in reading my heartfelt request. 106.222.225.155 ( talk) 16:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
HistoryThere are very few things in the history section after independence. I see many new users trying to add stuff randomly without starting a discussion, so I want to start one to see if we can add something. I understand that there is History of India and History of the Republic of India, but it seems odd that India still does not have much information of its history after independence. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 14:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2024
From "Official Languages" to "Lingua Frankas". S. Abbhijithram ( talk) 14:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Problems with paragraphing and title(Discussion moved from
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HistoryIt's strange that British colonial rule has been summed up in so few words and all their evil deeds have been concluded in just one line -( " rights" promised to Indians were granted slowly). In one paragraph it's written India rises from being destitute to fastest growing economy. But it's not at all explained that who was responsible for bringing the country at that position. Major changes in the history section required!! 152.58.184.75 ( talk) 15:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Drive side - Left 103.98.209.124 ( talk) 14:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to link Myanmar on "In the Indian Ocean, India is in the vicinity of Sri Lanka and the Maldives; its Andaman and Nicobar Islands share a maritime border with Thailand, Myanmar, and Indonesia." 117.194.36.160 ( talk) 03:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Request to remove pic "US president Barack Obama addresses the members of the Parliament of India in New Delhi in November 2010."It is a very bad quality picture and the Parliament building too has changed. My suggestion is to refrain from adding non-Indian people in the India article, specially under its politics para. 122.187.117.179 ( talk) 11:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC) The caste system, which created a hierarchy of priests, warriors, and free peasants, but which excluded indigenous peoples by labelling their occupations impure, arose during this periodThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Are the only sources for this coming from 2 Germans who lived in the 20th century Jamesman666 ( talk) 03:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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"Voice of the Global South Summit" mass additionsThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
User:Makks2010 has created the Category:Countries of Voice of Global South in relation to the Modi-initiated virtual summit [2] and added it to every country that participated in the summit (according to a Indian governmental source), without 1) an article related to it, and 2) without mention of the summit of these articles. When I first reverted some of these additions, @Makks2010 has added some text to Sri Lanka to comply with WP:CATVER, but only using a non-neutral source by the Indian government [3], and now, they have created the main article (which makes my first objection temporarily moot; the article hasn't been vetted for WP:N and WP:V yet). But still, we obviously need independent sources which tells us that the participation in the summit is relevant for each country article. Since this summit is an Indian initiative, I have chosen this talk page to get wider input about these mass edits. Austronesier ( talk) 17:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) PS: @Makks2010 is re-adding the category, disregarding WP:BRD, e.g. here: [4] [5]. – Austronesier ( talk) 17:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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Feedback on India wiki pageHere is my feedback on India wiki page. It is a badly a formatted article highlighting "not so positive" side of the country (most probably it is by intention of the editors) and hiding "almost every positive aspect". Hence it requires a major overhauling efforts. examples - 1) Mention of "incorporation of untouchability" in the introduction itself is mis-representation of India. though the fact is that the untouchability is matter of past now (abolished 74 years ago), it must be included in the article but certainly not in the introduction as it does not represent the country any more. 2) Pre-history section is totally missing, where as it is available in many courtiers’ wiki pages. 3) History of 'North-eastern' part is purposefully not included in any section of the history. 4) Geography section did not even mention about any of India's islands. 5) Topography is a major topic that missing. 6) Wrong information given about number of state-level political parties mentioned. Number of listed political parties in the EC is around 2500. 7) List of top metropolis cities / largest urban areas is not written, whereas almost every other country's wiki page has it. (e.g. U.K.) 8) A separate section should be provided to the languages under demographics for one of the most linguistically diverse country of the world. 9) Architecture section more look like an advertisement of Taj Mahal, Though India has many more architectural wonders other than Taj. The section should be re-visited. 10) No mention of India's Transport infrastructure work done in last 10 year. A separate Transport section would be appreciated. 11) No mention of India’s scientific achievements, if they do not represent a country than I wonder what would. Science and technology section should be included. 12) No mention of world's largest media. 13) India's wide diversity should be included in the clothing section, rather than just highlighting saris and Shalwar. 14) World's second-largest education system cannot be summarized just in five sentences. 15) India's contribution in the WW-I & WW-II should also be mentioned under some appropriate section. 16) Healthcare should have been a separate section, considering that India has one of the largest Healthcare infra. 17) India is known for it's Philosophy & Culture. However Wiki page doesn't even consider it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Makks2010 ( talk • contribs) 18:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, it still follows an outdated guideline, but recent changes are updated and incorporated into the article after gaining consensus here in talk page regularly. So, it's not that bad or it's not like we use the outdated style. You may check the article milestones in the talk page header to see the reviews that are done time to time.
The Herald (Benison) (
talk) 10:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrative divisions section doesn't mention about 29 autonomously administrated areas of India.please include Autonomous administrative divisions of India link under Administrative divisions section. There are 29 such areas, which should be given some visibility. Present link : Proposed change : Makks2010 ( talk) 13:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
"Bharat" must be added as the endonym.The word "Bharat" must be added as the endonym in the lead sentence and the infobox WITHOUT changing the common name. Why is the hesitation? Makks2010 ( talk) 11:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Yea, we already have
the ISO. I think what Makks2010 meant was they want
Hindi: भारत,
romanized: Bhārat or
Hindi: भारत,
romanized: India (or something similar) in the lede.
The Herald (Benison) (
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"romanized: Bhārat" is okay. Makks2010 ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
The proposed statement for India is in line with another FA Bulgaria.
priests, warriors and free peasants were not "indigenous" in India@ Makks2010:, what is meant by " text updated"? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Declining status of women during Maurya and Gupta EmpiresControversial statement - Early political consolidations gave rise to the loose-knit Maurya and Gupta Empires based in the Ganges Basin. Their collective era was suffused with wide-ranging creativity, but also marked by the declining status of women. I really would like to get this statement reviewed, which makes no sense. General understanding is stature of women in Indian society went south with Islamic invasion. The reference given with the sentence is actually not open to read for all. Makks2010 ( talk) 11:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Community Economic and Social Development II
— Assignment last updated by Nikhil Kashyap 1 ( talk) 22:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Socio-economic challengesControversial statement - Despite economic growth during recent decades, India continues to face socio-economic challenges. In 2006, India contained the largest number of people living below the World Bank's international poverty line of US$1.25 per day Reference given - https://web.archive.org/web/20120514143037/https://siteresources.worldbank.org/SOUTHASIAEXT/Resources/DPR_FullReport.pdf
1) Even the world bank has raised the poverty line from US$1.25 per day to US2.15 per day back in 2017. Hence data mentioned in the article is way too old. Refer to this https://pip.worldbank.org/country-profiles/IND 2) Also editor must consider this before updating - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/indias-poverty-rate-declined-to-4-5-5-in-2022-23-sbi-research/articleshow/108029519.cms?from=mdr Makks2010 ( talk) 12:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Black Kite (talk) 08:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 April 2024
ADD to initial description after "During the same time, its nominal per capita income increased from US$64 annually to US$2,601, and its literacy rate from 16.6% to 74%." Over 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal sector which generates about half of India's GDP. Despite the growth in GDP, real wages of workers have largely stagnated in the organized manufacturing industry since the 1980s. [1] Vuquiz ( talk) 13:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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Short DescriptionThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Change Short description: Country in Asia to Country in South Asia.
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Adding some more context to per capita income rise in short descriptionIn the short description it states the following: "During the same time, its nominal per capita income increased from US$64 annually to US$2,601, and its literacy rate from 16.6% to 74%." I suggest adding some more context in a new sentence after this one, giving more context to the suggested rise in nominal per capita income. While this number may very possible be true, this lacks some important context for readers. For one, about 90% of India's workforce works in the informal sector of the economy (which contributes about 50% to India's GDP). [8] https://wol.iza.org/articles/the-labor-market-in-india-since-the-1990s/long [9] https://labour.gov.in/sites/default/files/report_vol_4_final.pdf (in the foreword, page 5) Since this is, by its very nature, not monitored by the government, its about impossible to give an accurate depiction of average incomes in the country as most workers would not be taken into consideration for this statistic. Secondly, the per capita income statistic is reductive in itself. It doesn't give the reader an idea on how these incomes are distributed, by the nature of how averages are calculated. Hence, I suggest adding the information that about 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal economy. Furthermore, it might be useful to give an example of the development of incomes of an actually formal sector of the economy where accurate data exists. I suggest referencing the findings of a paper by the IZA World of Labor journal. They analyzed the development of real wages of workers in the organized manufacturing sector. Their findings were that wages have stagnated over the last several decades. [10] https://wol.iza.org/articles/the-labor-market-in-india-since-the-1990s/long#izawol.425-figure-000012 Otherwise, it might be useful getting rid of the nominal per capita income number in the short description in general. It's a very reductive term that lacks crucial context (inflation, distribution of said incomes etc.). Put together into a coherent text, the addition to the short description may look like this: Over 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal sector which generates about half of India's GDP. Despite the growth in GDP, real wages of workers have largely stagnated in the organized manufacturing industry since the 1980s. Please let me know what you think. Vuquiz ( talk) 20:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC) add a line about marathas in the (top) section
maratha empire is acknowledged by western, british historians (no 1 point) that means it did existed. it also had an area about 2.5m sq km which means it was bigger that 1 m sq km hence a big enough empire to be added in (top) section. it crushed mughal empire by force (but you dont have to write that as it would be equal to indians defeating turks pbuh swt which is not possible so you just write something like "mughal empire was gradually followed by marathas however we dont yet know about how mughals declines"). then add a line stating that three anglo maratha wars resulted in british rule (istead of saying "Gradually expanding rule of the British East India Company followed" like if mughals were the greatest before british Uvrajgupt ( talk) 14:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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India's Nominal GDP is 4.11 Trillion Dollars according to IMF forecast for 2024 you can check the official website please change it 49.205.121.76 ( talk) 17:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Update per capita rankings(nominal) Per capita income is 136 not 139 Anon-ymousTrecen ( talk) 04:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Corneleaus the third ( talk) 06:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC) wvadwwvdsCite error: A
Update the Gini parameters in the infobox
the 'Gini_year' parameter
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as reflected by the currently used source ('Gini_ref') [1] DJ-Aomand ( talk) 10:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024
Contribution of the maratha empire in establishing the first swaraj is underrated 2409:40E0:103E:7F67:8000:0:0:0 ( talk) 05:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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New Jersey-based
Princeton University in
Bengaluru aims to bridge the gaps and address interactions between India and the rest of the world to confront humanity's most pressing issues, including
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Please make a referance to India as a country. Darsh280209 07:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
First sentence of demographics sectionI've recently updated the first sentence of the demographics section to no longer say that India is the second-most populous country, as this is now false, as well as removed the note that speculated it would achieve the most population by 2023, as this of course has come to be true. However, I would like some input as whether or not to state both population figures in the first sentence, as right now it seems a little wordy. One possible choice would be to keep it how it was, saying that with the 2011 census figures India was the second-most populous country, and have a note saying that per estimates it is now the most populous. Another is how it is now, saying both the official census data and the estimates, and that with the estimates it is the most populous. Lastly would be a reversal of option 1, which would state only the estimates. Thus, there are three options:
The exact wording of course is not set in stone with this but I'd like input as to the general formatting of the first sentence. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 01:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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The last sentence of the history section says:
"India's sustained democratic freedoms are unique among the world's newer nations; however, in spite of its recent economic successes, freedom from want for its disadvantaged population remains a goal yet to be achieved."
I find it difficult to understand what this sentence is trying to say. Is it trying to say that people in India want its disadvantaged population and being free from this 'want' is a goal not achieved. Or, is it trying to say that disadvantaged population of India wants several things in their lives, and making them free of this 'want' is a goal not achieved.
The source simply points out that we would not claim that work is complete in regards to poverty eradication, and this poverty limits freedom of a huge number of people in India.
I think the source could be probably paraphrased in a better way. Or, is 'Freedom from want' a common technical concept that I am unaware of? Rahul ( talk) 15:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
whether you agree with it or not, the claim that a country is a "democracy" is a statement of political ideology, and not a simple fact about which an article lede can claim to report objective statistics. i don't necessarily believe it isn't true, but I don't think it should be listed next to uncontroversial facts. 128.114.255.157 ( talk) 06:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
I just want to put this out there hoping somebody might do something about this. There are FAR too many links in this article, especially in the lead. So many, it was totally unreadable for me personally. So much so I actually found a Firefox addon to strip the link styling completely from the page. Most readers wouldn't know to do what I did and, if they have the same issue I do with too much style changing, won't bother reading the utter mess I encountered before I found the extension.
Can someone please take some time to minimize the links on this page? The way it is now is just ridiculous. 2601:18C:4300:84E0:D81C:F778:C17F:1DA7 ( talk) 04:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
This article was listed as need a Featured article review about three years ago. There are still too many images with MOS:SANDWICHing and poor layout, the lead is too long, Administrative divisions is an unnecessary list which could be simply summarized from the sub-article, there is still dated information (eg "The 522-million-worker Indian labour force is the world's second-largest, as of 2017" and "According to a 2011 PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) report, India's GDP at purchasing power parity could overtake that of the United States by 2045"), it is easy to spot content that could be in sub-articles rather than here (eg, "Averaging an economic growth rate of 7.5% for several years prior to 2007," from Economy, and almost every section can be trimmed. Some of the footnotes are so long that copyright concerns might be raised. The layout in the government section is a list sandwiched between an image and a table. It doesn't seem that the work that needed to be done three years ago has been undertaken; trimming, tightening, and taming the images, plus bringing the lead down. The Featured article review should proceed. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 07:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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India politics
The current President Dr. Kamaljit Das. Dasriju ( talk) 12:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC) Replace Dr. Kamaljit Das as incumbent President of India in lieu of Drupadi Murmu
Dr.Kamaljit Das the current President of India. Dasriju ( talk) 12:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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Please change the flag to India flag. Someone put the pakistani flag on the india article. Vijayallenraj ( talk) 04:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change the language of the anthem and national song from Hindi and Sanskrit, respectively, to Bengali (and maybe Sanskrit). "This source", currently used in the article, is apparently controversial, according to this news article. There are references online that mention the anthem having been written in Bengali and sometimes also Sanskrit (e.g. here, here, and here). Also, this report from the Constituent Assembly debates on January 24, 1950, mentions a Hindi translation of the Constitution, but not a "Hindi version" of the national anthem. Unless a different document mentions it, the reference to a "Hindi version" appears to be inaccurate. It's common knowledge in India that the national anthem was written in Bengali, though I don't have a written source for that. The page Jana Gana Mana also mentions that it was written in Bengali, and that it was adopted by the Constituent Assembly, but not that it was adopted in Hindi. The confusion might have arisen because, according to Jana Gana Mana, there are official lyrics in the Devanagari script, which is commonly associated with Hindi (though other languages use it too), but that is a transliteration, not a translation. Also, jaage, maage, and gaahe are all recognizably Bengali third-person singular verbs, not Hindi or Sanskrit verbs, while the noun naame is a Bengali locative, but as far as I know not a valid word in either Hindi or Sanskrit (the locative singular of naaman can be either naamni or naamani in Sanskrit). "Vande Mataram" is written in Bengali according to this, and in Bengali and Sanskrit according to Vande Mataram. For the national song, it's a complicated issue, as seen here. Htysc ( talk) 06:57, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Mention 'ganges' as 'ganga' it's more realibleakankshavishwas 132.154.58.254 ( talk) 15:49, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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Change India to Bharat MrBoyBoyBoy ( talk) 11:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
India that is BharatThe name of the country is both India and Bharat. In the Indian constitution it is 'India that is Bharat' , should be added as such in the lead. Note : Bhārat Gaṇarājya is the name in it's official language which is added , but the second name of the nation ,Bharat, mentioned in it's constitution is not added The lead should be : India that is Bharat, officially the Republic of India (ISO: Bhārat Gaṇarājya), is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area; the most populous country as of June 2022 Afv12e ( talk) 17:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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The name of the country is both India and Bharat. In the Indian constitution it is 'India that is Bharat' , should be added as such in the lead. [1] Note : Bhārat Gaṇarājya is the name in it's official language which is added , but the second name of the nation ,Bharat, mentioned in it's constitution is not added The lead should be : India that is Bharat, officially the Republic of India (ISO: Bhārat Gaṇarājya), is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area; the most populous country as of June 202 Afv12e ( talk) 02:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Clarify The History of the IndiaThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. The actual Indian History starts from the Ancient kingdoms called Mahajanpad's but on the Wikipedia page it is starting From it's independence from UK Which is so bad as a country with this vast history and a strong culture who has historic background not even imaginable to many. So it is my request to Wikipedia to add the Mahajanpadas and many later major kingdoms, empires ( native empires and kingdoms for example the Cholas, hoysala's, Rashtrakutas, Rajputana and Marathas as well as empires and kingdoms established by foreign power's such as Delhi sultanate, moghuls etc) so pls consider my request to avoid wrong information about the Indian History 🇮🇳🙏 The Indoman 360 ( talk) 17:29, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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(Clarifying my edit request from November) Please change the language of the national anthem from Hindi and Sanskrit, respectively, to Bengali. This source, currently used in the article, is controversial, according to this news article. Apart from that source, the anthem is consistently characterized as having been written in Bengali (e.g. here, here, and here). Also, this report from the Constituent Assembly debates on January 24, 1950, mentions a Hindi translation of the Constitution, but not a "Hindi version" of the national anthem. Unless a different document mentions it, the reference to a "Hindi version" appears to be inaccurate. It's common knowledge in India that the national anthem was written in Bengali, though I don't have a written source for that. The page Jana Gana Mana (citing various sources) also mentions that it was written in Bengali, and that it was adopted by the Constituent Assembly, but not that it was adopted in Hindi. The confusion might have arisen because, according to Jana Gana Mana, there are official lyrics in the Devanagari script, which is commonly associated with Hindi (though other languages use it too), but that is a transliteration, not a translation. Also, jaage, maage, and gaahe are all recognizably Bengali third-person singular verbs, not Hindi or Sanskrit verbs, while the noun naame is a Bengali locative, but as far as I know not a valid word in either Hindi or Sanskrit (the locative singular of naaman can be either naamni or naamani in Sanskrit). Htysc ( talk) 23:53, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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To the EDITORS of wikepedia this is a request to add Indian sub-continent along side the word South Asia because this could lead to many misinformation and can be mis-interpreted in lot of ways. This request purely based on intellectual intrest because the term Indian sub-continent has always been used before. Thankyou you very much for giving your time in reading my heartfelt request. 106.222.225.155 ( talk) 16:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
HistoryThere are very few things in the history section after independence. I see many new users trying to add stuff randomly without starting a discussion, so I want to start one to see if we can add something. I understand that there is History of India and History of the Republic of India, but it seems odd that India still does not have much information of its history after independence. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 14:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2024
From "Official Languages" to "Lingua Frankas". S. Abbhijithram ( talk) 14:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Problems with paragraphing and title(Discussion moved from
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HistoryIt's strange that British colonial rule has been summed up in so few words and all their evil deeds have been concluded in just one line -( " rights" promised to Indians were granted slowly). In one paragraph it's written India rises from being destitute to fastest growing economy. But it's not at all explained that who was responsible for bringing the country at that position. Major changes in the history section required!! 152.58.184.75 ( talk) 15:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Drive side - Left 103.98.209.124 ( talk) 14:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to link Myanmar on "In the Indian Ocean, India is in the vicinity of Sri Lanka and the Maldives; its Andaman and Nicobar Islands share a maritime border with Thailand, Myanmar, and Indonesia." 117.194.36.160 ( talk) 03:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Request to remove pic "US president Barack Obama addresses the members of the Parliament of India in New Delhi in November 2010."It is a very bad quality picture and the Parliament building too has changed. My suggestion is to refrain from adding non-Indian people in the India article, specially under its politics para. 122.187.117.179 ( talk) 11:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC) The caste system, which created a hierarchy of priests, warriors, and free peasants, but which excluded indigenous peoples by labelling their occupations impure, arose during this periodThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Are the only sources for this coming from 2 Germans who lived in the 20th century Jamesman666 ( talk) 03:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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User:Makks2010 has created the Category:Countries of Voice of Global South in relation to the Modi-initiated virtual summit [2] and added it to every country that participated in the summit (according to a Indian governmental source), without 1) an article related to it, and 2) without mention of the summit of these articles. When I first reverted some of these additions, @Makks2010 has added some text to Sri Lanka to comply with WP:CATVER, but only using a non-neutral source by the Indian government [3], and now, they have created the main article (which makes my first objection temporarily moot; the article hasn't been vetted for WP:N and WP:V yet). But still, we obviously need independent sources which tells us that the participation in the summit is relevant for each country article. Since this summit is an Indian initiative, I have chosen this talk page to get wider input about these mass edits. Austronesier ( talk) 17:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) PS: @Makks2010 is re-adding the category, disregarding WP:BRD, e.g. here: [4] [5]. – Austronesier ( talk) 17:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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Feedback on India wiki pageHere is my feedback on India wiki page. It is a badly a formatted article highlighting "not so positive" side of the country (most probably it is by intention of the editors) and hiding "almost every positive aspect". Hence it requires a major overhauling efforts. examples - 1) Mention of "incorporation of untouchability" in the introduction itself is mis-representation of India. though the fact is that the untouchability is matter of past now (abolished 74 years ago), it must be included in the article but certainly not in the introduction as it does not represent the country any more. 2) Pre-history section is totally missing, where as it is available in many courtiers’ wiki pages. 3) History of 'North-eastern' part is purposefully not included in any section of the history. 4) Geography section did not even mention about any of India's islands. 5) Topography is a major topic that missing. 6) Wrong information given about number of state-level political parties mentioned. Number of listed political parties in the EC is around 2500. 7) List of top metropolis cities / largest urban areas is not written, whereas almost every other country's wiki page has it. (e.g. U.K.) 8) A separate section should be provided to the languages under demographics for one of the most linguistically diverse country of the world. 9) Architecture section more look like an advertisement of Taj Mahal, Though India has many more architectural wonders other than Taj. The section should be re-visited. 10) No mention of India's Transport infrastructure work done in last 10 year. A separate Transport section would be appreciated. 11) No mention of India’s scientific achievements, if they do not represent a country than I wonder what would. Science and technology section should be included. 12) No mention of world's largest media. 13) India's wide diversity should be included in the clothing section, rather than just highlighting saris and Shalwar. 14) World's second-largest education system cannot be summarized just in five sentences. 15) India's contribution in the WW-I & WW-II should also be mentioned under some appropriate section. 16) Healthcare should have been a separate section, considering that India has one of the largest Healthcare infra. 17) India is known for it's Philosophy & Culture. However Wiki page doesn't even consider it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Makks2010 ( talk • contribs) 18:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, it still follows an outdated guideline, but recent changes are updated and incorporated into the article after gaining consensus here in talk page regularly. So, it's not that bad or it's not like we use the outdated style. You may check the article milestones in the talk page header to see the reviews that are done time to time.
The Herald (Benison) (
talk) 10:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrative divisions section doesn't mention about 29 autonomously administrated areas of India.please include Autonomous administrative divisions of India link under Administrative divisions section. There are 29 such areas, which should be given some visibility. Present link : Proposed change : Makks2010 ( talk) 13:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
"Bharat" must be added as the endonym.The word "Bharat" must be added as the endonym in the lead sentence and the infobox WITHOUT changing the common name. Why is the hesitation? Makks2010 ( talk) 11:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Yea, we already have
the ISO. I think what Makks2010 meant was they want
Hindi: भारत,
romanized: Bhārat or
Hindi: भारत,
romanized: India (or something similar) in the lede.
The Herald (Benison) (
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"romanized: Bhārat" is okay. Makks2010 ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
The proposed statement for India is in line with another FA Bulgaria.
priests, warriors and free peasants were not "indigenous" in India@ Makks2010:, what is meant by " text updated"? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Declining status of women during Maurya and Gupta EmpiresControversial statement - Early political consolidations gave rise to the loose-knit Maurya and Gupta Empires based in the Ganges Basin. Their collective era was suffused with wide-ranging creativity, but also marked by the declining status of women. I really would like to get this statement reviewed, which makes no sense. General understanding is stature of women in Indian society went south with Islamic invasion. The reference given with the sentence is actually not open to read for all. Makks2010 ( talk) 11:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Community Economic and Social Development II
— Assignment last updated by Nikhil Kashyap 1 ( talk) 22:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Socio-economic challengesControversial statement - Despite economic growth during recent decades, India continues to face socio-economic challenges. In 2006, India contained the largest number of people living below the World Bank's international poverty line of US$1.25 per day Reference given - https://web.archive.org/web/20120514143037/https://siteresources.worldbank.org/SOUTHASIAEXT/Resources/DPR_FullReport.pdf
1) Even the world bank has raised the poverty line from US$1.25 per day to US2.15 per day back in 2017. Hence data mentioned in the article is way too old. Refer to this https://pip.worldbank.org/country-profiles/IND 2) Also editor must consider this before updating - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/indias-poverty-rate-declined-to-4-5-5-in-2022-23-sbi-research/articleshow/108029519.cms?from=mdr Makks2010 ( talk) 12:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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ADD to initial description after "During the same time, its nominal per capita income increased from US$64 annually to US$2,601, and its literacy rate from 16.6% to 74%." Over 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal sector which generates about half of India's GDP. Despite the growth in GDP, real wages of workers have largely stagnated in the organized manufacturing industry since the 1980s. [1] Vuquiz ( talk) 13:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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Short DescriptionThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Change Short description: Country in Asia to Country in South Asia.
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Adding some more context to per capita income rise in short descriptionIn the short description it states the following: "During the same time, its nominal per capita income increased from US$64 annually to US$2,601, and its literacy rate from 16.6% to 74%." I suggest adding some more context in a new sentence after this one, giving more context to the suggested rise in nominal per capita income. While this number may very possible be true, this lacks some important context for readers. For one, about 90% of India's workforce works in the informal sector of the economy (which contributes about 50% to India's GDP). [8] https://wol.iza.org/articles/the-labor-market-in-india-since-the-1990s/long [9] https://labour.gov.in/sites/default/files/report_vol_4_final.pdf (in the foreword, page 5) Since this is, by its very nature, not monitored by the government, its about impossible to give an accurate depiction of average incomes in the country as most workers would not be taken into consideration for this statistic. Secondly, the per capita income statistic is reductive in itself. It doesn't give the reader an idea on how these incomes are distributed, by the nature of how averages are calculated. Hence, I suggest adding the information that about 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal economy. Furthermore, it might be useful to give an example of the development of incomes of an actually formal sector of the economy where accurate data exists. I suggest referencing the findings of a paper by the IZA World of Labor journal. They analyzed the development of real wages of workers in the organized manufacturing sector. Their findings were that wages have stagnated over the last several decades. [10] https://wol.iza.org/articles/the-labor-market-in-india-since-the-1990s/long#izawol.425-figure-000012 Otherwise, it might be useful getting rid of the nominal per capita income number in the short description in general. It's a very reductive term that lacks crucial context (inflation, distribution of said incomes etc.). Put together into a coherent text, the addition to the short description may look like this: Over 90% of the labor force continues to work in the informal sector which generates about half of India's GDP. Despite the growth in GDP, real wages of workers have largely stagnated in the organized manufacturing industry since the 1980s. Please let me know what you think. Vuquiz ( talk) 20:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC) add a line about marathas in the (top) section
maratha empire is acknowledged by western, british historians (no 1 point) that means it did existed. it also had an area about 2.5m sq km which means it was bigger that 1 m sq km hence a big enough empire to be added in (top) section. it crushed mughal empire by force (but you dont have to write that as it would be equal to indians defeating turks pbuh swt which is not possible so you just write something like "mughal empire was gradually followed by marathas however we dont yet know about how mughals declines"). then add a line stating that three anglo maratha wars resulted in british rule (istead of saying "Gradually expanding rule of the British East India Company followed" like if mughals were the greatest before british Uvrajgupt ( talk) 14:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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India's Nominal GDP is 4.11 Trillion Dollars according to IMF forecast for 2024 you can check the official website please change it 49.205.121.76 ( talk) 17:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Update per capita rankings(nominal) Per capita income is 136 not 139 Anon-ymousTrecen ( talk) 04:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Corneleaus the third ( talk) 06:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC) wvadwwvdsCite error: A
Update the Gini parameters in the infobox
the 'Gini_year' parameter
and the 'Gini_change' parameter
as reflected by the currently used source ('Gini_ref') [1] DJ-Aomand ( talk) 10:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024
Contribution of the maratha empire in establishing the first swaraj is underrated 2409:40E0:103E:7F67:8000:0:0:0 ( talk) 05:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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New Jersey-based
Princeton University in
Bengaluru aims to bridge the gaps and address interactions between India and the rest of the world to confront humanity's most pressing issues, including
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Please make a referance to India as a country. Darsh280209 07:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
First sentence of demographics sectionI've recently updated the first sentence of the demographics section to no longer say that India is the second-most populous country, as this is now false, as well as removed the note that speculated it would achieve the most population by 2023, as this of course has come to be true. However, I would like some input as whether or not to state both population figures in the first sentence, as right now it seems a little wordy. One possible choice would be to keep it how it was, saying that with the 2011 census figures India was the second-most populous country, and have a note saying that per estimates it is now the most populous. Another is how it is now, saying both the official census data and the estimates, and that with the estimates it is the most populous. Lastly would be a reversal of option 1, which would state only the estimates. Thus, there are three options:
The exact wording of course is not set in stone with this but I'd like input as to the general formatting of the first sentence. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 01:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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