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I removed an image of fishing boats intended to illustrate the Indian monsoon. The image was not appropriate for illustrating this geographical event. The moored boats were not positioned to be ready for a monsoon. My edit was reverted by an editor claiming that I could not edit this article until November. I am entitled to remove any image that is used incorrectly. That is standard Wikipedia process. Edit-warring by some self-appointed monitor (Fowler) is not acceptable. Are there any Admins watching this page, please? Charlesjsharp ( talk) 19:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Please also read his xenophobic comment here in above on this page where he says, "An actual Indian," in the caption of his proposed photograph.
Dear @ Fowler&fowler: you don't like the message, so you are attacking the messenger... The reason editors keep popping up in protest is probably just because your rhetoric and stonewalling are naturally attracting thunder, and rightly so. Look, you are using this page precisely as your own personal domain: you are now claiming around that you have "been managing India for 13 years" [2]. Any honest Wikipedian would feel outraged by such statements. For my part, I've made mistakes, but I have served my time and learned my lesson, so I have recovered my right to challenge Wikipedians who do not follow the rules [3]. You keep reverting everybody, demanding that any change ("any single word"!) should be approved first on this Talk Page, [4] in contempt of all Wikipedia rules. You have been parading a photograph of your own teenage son in Kurta ( per your own admission) in this Featured Article, and claimed community consensus without any actual approval process ( Glaring inadequacies for a Featured Article). And you keep making false claims: no, I am not new on this page [5] [6]. Like most of us, I do not like when Hindu nationalists distort a page, and this has to be resisted, but I am afraid you are at the other extreme, an overt vilifyer of Hindus and Hinduism (do I need to give the multitude of sickening diffs over the years?). This is very unhealthy and disfunctional for someone who forcibly monopolizes the contributions to this page. @ RegentsPark:@ Vanamonde93: how can you let this happen? This flies in the face of all Wikipedia rules and time-honored practices. More balance and openness, and more respect of the rules, are needed here. @ Fowler&fowler: I'm happy to work with you, as you are obviously intelligent and highly educated, but you need to respect the contributions of others, show more tolerance, and respect Wikipedia editorial rules. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@ पाटलिपुत्र: How do you know our son is not Indian? As for me, a person who you claim is "rabidly anti-Hindu," why would I go around writing articles such as the first eight sections of Indian mathematics (please read the oral and written traditions) or Raksha Bandhan? Why would I be creating image collages such as the one you see here. Please stop, otherwise I will take you to ANI. The xenophobic hole you are digging for yourself is getting deeper. As for the rest of you xenophobia, it deserved to be aired more to be understood. I will be opening a news section soon. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
No more speculation than the meaning of a window being open. Not all fishermen batten down similarly; some are sloppy—around the world. We can discuss changes in November, but not now. I have already asked you to be a judge. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Greetings! I was going through the article and saw that the article missed out on an aspect that should have been mentioned in the para alongside the sentence stating India as ‘a nuclear state, ranking high in military expenditure’; Republic of India is considered one of the emerging superpowers of the world. [1] [2] [3] [4] Just a suggestion, I saw that countries such as China, Brazil etc had that mentioned in the last para of introduction. Thanks! Harshv7777 ( talk) 19:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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"India is the Largest Democracy in the world" is a better statement than "India is the most populous democracy in the world". Can someone please change it. Divyansh indian ( talk) 11:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please remove the following line: "The Dravidian languages of India were supplanted in the northern regions.[28]". The lines from the referenced book says the Dravidian languages were probably used in the states of Maharashtra, Gujrat and Sindh. These are considered western parts of the subcontinent and as such a very small section of the Indian Subcontinent in this context. Athosindia ( talk) 19:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
India is known as Hindustan in hindi language Eroberar ( talk) 07:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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India’s aviation industry is largely untapped with huge growth opportunities, considering that air transport is still expensive for majority of the country’s population, of which nearly 40 per cent is the upwardly mobile middle class. The industry stakeholders should engage and collaborate with policy makers to implement efficient and rational decisions that would boost India’s civil aviation industry. With the right policies and relentless focus on quality, cost and passenger interest, India would be well placed to achieve its vision of becoming the third-largest aviation market by 2020. The expenditure of Indian travellers is expected to grow up to Rs 9.5 lakh crore (US$ 136 billion) by 2021. Due to rise in demand in air travel, India will need 2,380 new commercial airplanes by 2038. [1]
The Lungi (/luŋɡi/) or Tahband is a type of sarong that originated in the Indian subcontinent, it is a traditional skirt-like lower garment wrapped around the waist, usually below the belly. Apart from India, lungis are also worn in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Nepal. [2]
Bengali cuisine generally involves a hot palette, using a large number of herbs, spices and roots in order to create dishes that are full of depth. However, these flavors can also be manipulated to create more delicate tastes, and it is important to note that dishes vary from region to region. The areas of West Bengal and Bangladesh are interesting for both their similar qualities, and inherent differences. [3]
-- Gg100699 ( talk) 01:37, 18 October 2020 (UTC) Gg100699 ( talk) 01:37, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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For the lead, is it possible to add "a country located on the Indian peninsula in South Asia"? 2603:8081:160A:BE2A:B1DE:5BA6:F09F:B7AE ( talk) 02:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Indian Peninsula and no mention of it in this article. The lead must summarize the rest of the article. As you may see by clicking the link, the Indian Peninsula is a subtopic of the Indian subcontinent, which actually is mentioned in this article. Thanks again for your input!
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Add "Despite the modern reforms brought by British Rule, they were also infamous for atrocities over Indians, most notably during the Jallianwala Bagh Incident, in Amritsar, and the involvement of British Rule in the Bengal Famine during the second world war." 223.181.89.146 ( talk) 14:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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India has 29 states. There are also 7 union territories. Telangana is a state... The article need correction
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Please check Modern humans arrived on the Indian subcontinent from Africa no later than 55,000 years ago this line and view Peopling of India article. " Peopling of India" shows that modern humans came to India 65000 years ago, not 55000. Thank you! Dineshswamiin ( talk) 08:47, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Blatant tampering being done on this page by fascists islamists on this page. Openly trying to demean non-islamic rulers/kingdoms-
"Early political consolidations gave rise to the loose-knit Maurya and Gupta Empires based in the Ganges Basin.[31] Their collective era was suffused with wide-ranging creativity,[32] but also marked by the declining status of women,[33] and the incorporation of untouchability into an organised system of belief.[g][34]" While also trying to glorify violent and fascist islamic rule-
"The Mughal Empire, in 1526, ushered in two centuries of relative peace,[41] leaving a legacy of luminous architecture.[h][42"
Request these lines be taken down or removed. Lines are specifically selected from outlier sources in order to push propaganda. Bekknqz ( talk) 20:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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This is some blatant next-level disinformation campaign. Do you think the rest of us here don't have access to the sources or do you think we're too dumb to comprehend?
1. A Population History of India: From the First Modern People to the Present Day By Tim Dyson
p. 16-17 The term loose-knit was used to refer to the Mauryan Empire, no mention of the Gupta Empire anywhere.
And ironically, the first mention of the Gupta Empire in the book is on p. 38, where the author refers to the Gupta Empire as one of the two empires with a central authority in the subcontinent (the other one being the one led by Harsha-vardhana). The attempt to talk about the two empires them collectively is clearly aimed at bashing them.
2. A Population History of India: From the First Modern People to the Present Day By Tim Dyson
p. 20 Once again, no mention of the Gupta Empire. And the page only takes about how the society changed in that period (uses the empire to denote a time period). It didn't have anything to do with Mauryas or any of their policies. And this crucial distinction has conveniently been left out to make it look as if the Mauryas were directly responsible for these social issues.
(slightly off topic) And what exactly was the point of mentioning this in the intro though? If you wanted to talk about the declining status of women then why not include how the rigorized version of the purdah system introduced by islamic rulers degraded the status of women and widened the gender divide? There are plenty of sources on this. Dr. Alice Evans has various sources on this in her blog (has a book coming up too). Do explain why these particular lines were allowed in the intro, because it's very clear that these were aimed at degrading these kingdoms (adding the word "creativity" is a very poor attempt at sugarcoating it). Gupta Empire is considered to be the golden age (something intro worthy) of Indian history, but of course, no mention of it anywhere.
3. A History of India By Professor of Asian History Hermann Kulke, Dietmar Rothermund
p. 93 Faxian visited during the reign of Chandragupta II (Gupta Empire), has nothing to do with the Mauryas.
4. India Before Europe by Catherine B. Asher, Cynthia Talbot
p. 152 It was AKBAR who ushered in a period of relative peace. Replacing "Akbar" with "Mughals" only shows malicious intent. What's exactly the harm in being specific that it was Akbar and not some other Mughal ruler? Also, the previous page clearly says: "Akbar's policy of toleration remained largely intact through the reigns of the next two Mughal emperors, although over time the empire took on increasingly conservative attitudes toward religion." Why was such an important and relevant (yet brief) point left out in exchange for substituting 'Akbar' with 'Mughals'?
5. "luminous architecture"? The book doesn't use these words anywhere. Unnecessary paraphrasing to over-emphasize.
Not gonna let fascist propaganda take over Wikipedia. Everyone here has access to all these sources and you can't blatantly dismiss stuff by simply labelling it "well sourced", even though half the things aren't even in the sources to begin with. I know I'm supposed to suggest appropriate changes too, but I'll let you handle them accordingly. Bekknqz ( talk) 08:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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Driving Left to Right
The driving side in india is on Right side. Sameer Rolekar ( talk) 17:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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2401:4900:43A0:3D39:0:54:6FA3:6401 ( talk) 03:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
The map of India on this page is hugely incorrect and should be deleted until such time as a correct map approved by (or at least acceptable to) the Survey of India is available. Furthermore, the current map does not show the official (de jure) borders in undisputed territory or the de facto borders and all related claims where there's a dispute. It seems like a cartoon map where somebody has used straight lines anywhere there is a controversy. Today the Govt of India has complained to the WMF about a wrong map of India and threatened people with imprisonment, so its high time we the EN:WP community get this properly resolved. Aghore ( talk) 12:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
You are absolutely right Praful7789 ( talk) 16:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change population in 2011 from ‘1,211 million’ to the more standard ‘1.211 billion’ in paragraph 4 of the introduction Prince Of Iso ( talk) 02:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to make the pictures a normal size. Many pictures seems out of scale.-- 104.249.226.19 ( talk) 15:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Why pictures so different here compared to other countries? Is this why there is a star on the page to indicate it needs to be changed? -- 104.192.232.10 ( talk) 15:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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223.223.132.237 ( talk) 10:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
the india map is not accurate and both pok and china are integral part of india as in lastest official map
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अनुवाद => (Translation) - Please do not pollute/misrepresent hindi language.
Change (Hindi: Bhārat) to (हिंदी में भारत) Change (Hindi: Bhārat Gaṇarājya) to (हिंदी में भारत गणराज्य) 2601:647:4001:6A70:6CA4:3A82:24C8:E14E ( talk) 01:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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I would like to change the GDP estimates from 2020 to 2021. Hence, I would like to update India's GDP nominal to 2.83 trillion and it's PPP to 9.6 trillion Krao212 ( talk) 20:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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Pls add the id of India that is hindistan in the TDVIA Nonameonlyusername ( talk) 12:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Include the Maurya and Mughal empires above the section titled "independence from British". SherKhaan ( talk) 19:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Note g has a misplaced quotation mark. /info/en/?search=India#cite_note-41 If the note is a quote, then quotation marks should surround it on both sides, without a space in between. If it's not a quote, the quotation mark should be removed. 80.6.233.101 ( talk) 16:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Your valuable comments on notability are requested at Draft talk:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai#RfC: Is this topic notable or not ?
Thanks and warm regards
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Something very wrong with the pixel size for many images here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.90.87 ( talk) 09:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The area under control in map Ved-win ( talk) 12:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I want changes in the area under control in the map Source:india.gov.in Ved-win ( talk) 12:01, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
1) Jainism is older then Hinduism, The Rig Veda (the oldest vedic text) mentions Jain rituals which Hinduism does not do. 2) Hinduism stems from the Aryan invasion which involved the caste system as Northwest lighter skin Aryans blended racial and ethnic privileges into the culture to rule a subdued majority, none of the original Vedic books mention anything about caste. 3) Many worshipped Hindu Gods like Shiva and Ganesh and Vishnu and Parvati are not mentioned at all in the Rig Veda, these Gods all are documented some time after the Aryan Invasion.
Hindu fascists attempts to distort and steal history to call themselves the original religion of India and predate Hinduism thousands of years before its conception, however common sense will subdue their falsifications, Temples are not built by hunter gathers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.132.99.144 ( talk) 04:44, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Please remain neutral and help maintain the neutrality of wiki. Your paragraph shows how poorly informed you are. Vilok Coontoor ( talk) 11:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok neo jainist Vedas Are written in different Yugas Vedas can be even dated back to millions of years get out of this site neo jainist b word 950CMR ( talk) 16:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Well known academics like Joshua jonathan doesn't believe in bull crap things such as Aryan invasion theory here's why! Neo jainist Janemjaya and parikshit are historical persons and they had overpowered advanced technology more powerful than us they would have killed Aryans if they tried to invade India many scholars Says that Vedic civilization is younger than Tamil civilization when there are cleary Vedic influences in ancient lanka people like you is the reason why India is inferior to Japan and usa 950CMR ( talk) 16:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Plus archeologists found harappan murtis doing yogic poses and the pashupati seal is Cleary rudra and they also found a harrapan murti doing the namaste sign 950CMR ( talk) 16:38, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a place for people like you get outta here do some actual research before talking anything about any culture 950CMR ( talk) 16:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Let's see how do you counter this let's see what sources and cite will you give? To back up your claim because i have sources 950CMR ( talk) 16:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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During Mughals there was no relative for hindus, so I believe it should be removed 223.186.97.67 ( talk) 19:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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During mughal rule lot of temples and hindus were killed. You can still find the same ruins used to build qutub minar. I strongly request to remove the line "relative peace during mughal rule" 223.186.97.67 ( talk) 19:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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"to have sought enlightenment," there is an error, where the comma is supposed to have a period ザアンノウンエディター ( talk) 01:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
"No ruler of this period was able to create an empire and consistently control lands much beyond his core region." Would it be fine/accurate if I changed his to their, or are the only rulers of Medieval India male? (Question has been answered) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ザアンノウンエディター ( talk • contribs)
Can I update information or data according to https://www.statista.com? I doubt on it. Dinesh ( talk) 12:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Numerical data. For example:-
I've used it before. It can be very useful as a source. Especially, I want to update the value of Gini coefficient. This is as of 2013. Here is a Source Dinesh ( talk) 16:13, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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The IMF has published its latest estimates in April 2021. The source is: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/weo-database/2021/April/weo-report?c=534,&s=NGDPD,PPPGDP,NGDPDPC,PPPPC,&sy=2019&ey=2026&ssm=0&scsm=1&scc=0&ssd=1&ssc=0&sic=0&sort=country&ds=.&br=1
GDP (PPP) 2021 estimate • Total Increase $10.207 trillion • Per capita Increase $7,332
GDP (nominal) 2021 estimate • Total Increase $3.049 trillion • Per capita Increase $2,190 Shamikinwiki ( talk) 03:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
The section contains a statement on caste that seems out of place.
At the workplace in urban India, and in international or leading Indian companies, caste-related identification has pretty much lost its importance.
This is the only statement on relevance of caste in the country today but is limited strictly to workplaces in urban India and major companies. Even assuming that the statement is correct it is too narrow for an article that should have a more national nature. We should remove it at least, or replace it with a wider statement on the subject from the summary of the main article Caste system in India. It may also be WP:UNDUE or needs to be WP:BALANCED given that the opposite it true for government jobs in the country at least in terms of statistics. See Caste_system_in_India#Affirmative_action.
In terms of accuracy of statement I checked both sources cited. Engaging With India is a free book available on the author's website so it was easy to get. It is the book that makes the cited claim but gives no references itself to data that the author bases the claim on (important as the author Wolfgang Messner does not appear to be a specialist in the subject). Also the claim is also on pages 24-25 and not on pages 27-28 as cited (new edition perhaps but ISBN is matching). This is not the case with the book Working With India which does give citations for most of its claims but does not make the claim mentioned here. This needs to be remedied by at least putting in a more accurate citation. Ujwal.Xankill3r ( talk) 05:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
However caste representation in government jobs is skewed, with SC/ST members overrepresented in group D (primarily safai karamchari) jobs, slightly overrepresented in group C jobs, and underrepresented in group A and B jobs. [3] Caste also remains a factor in the private sphere, e.g., in the choice of marriage partners, and significantly for political mobilisation. [4] Occasional instances of caste-based violence, particularly against Dalits, are also common. [5] [6]
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Based on some good work carried out by Ujwal.Xankill3r, I am proposing the following extension (in green) for the caste paragraph. Please add your comments below:
Traditional Indian society is sometimes defined by social hierarchy. The Indian caste system embodies much of the social stratification and many of the social restrictions found in the Indian subcontinent. Social classes are defined by thousands of endogamous hereditary groups, often termed as jātis, or "castes". [1] India declared untouchability to be illegal [2] in 1947 and has since enacted other anti-discriminatory laws and social welfare initiatives. At the workplace in urban India, and in international or leading Indian companies, caste-related identification has pretty much lost its importance. [3] [4] However the effects of social engineering are still limited. The former untouchables, now called scheduled castes and tribes are overrepresented in lower level jobs performing menial tasks. [5] Caste also remains a factor in the private sphere, e.g., in the choice of marriage partners, and significantly for political mobilisation. [6] Occasional instances of caste-based violence, particularly against Dalits, are also common. [7] [8]
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-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the initial suggestion of the wording Kautilya3. I think the proposed text works well. I'll go invite comments from the main India project as well, seeing how we haven't received much feedback in over a week. Ujwal.Xankill3r ( talk) 16:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
occasional instances .... are commonis poor. Instances can either be occasional or common. TrangaBellam ( talk) 17:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
India's Hindu society is the paradigmatic ethnographic example of caste, a form of social stratification characterized by endogamy, hereditary transmission of a style of life which often includes an occupation, ritual status in a hierarchy, and customary social interaction and exclusion based on cultural notions of purity and pollution. [1] In the Indo-Aryan speaking regions of India, both caste among Hindus and an associated subordination of women, go back well into the mid-first-millennium BCE and have proved difficult to root out. [2]
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The first sentence may need to be paraphrased a little. I have taken it from the first sentence in Caste (where the words are the result of a long-wearing process for a longstanding consensus). I have added generous quotes. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Under "sports and recreation", there is picture of girls playing hopscotch. The description for that picture states that it is from a town called "Juara", and the link for it takes one to the article for a town in Brazil. The actual name of the town is "Jaora". I recommend that this gets changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whakayis ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks. I think this article needs a bit of work to meet the FA criteria again.
Until the beginning of the first millennium CE, the ordinary dress of people in India was entirely unstitched. This entire section seems to have been added after the last featured article review. One paragraph max should suffice.
Further easy to fix issues include overcitation (In Tamil literature, the Sangam literature (c. 600 BCE – 300 BCE) consisting of 2,381 poems, composed by 473 poets, is the earliest work. + 4 cites
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WP:SANDWICHING.
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I have not written the following sections or subsections: 5, 6, 7, 7.1, 7.2 (?), 8 (?), 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.6. Of these, 9.1 and 9.2 are the most easily rewritten, especially with the expert knowledge of Johnbod I would greatly welcome that if he has the time. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting we replace them. My goal is to reduce sandwiching to comply with the manual of style. I would like to propose we have fewer of them in this top-level article. I'm aware of sensitivities around POV, and hope we can avoid them by focusing just on FA criteria. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 23:14, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not in a hurry, which my previous post made clear. I should have mentioned FAR in my first post, but I refrained from that to take the time pressure off. I will develop a proposal wrt climate change below, slowly, and allowing for feedback from other regulars. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 15:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I'll re-iterate the point that I made above about the content of the article: In particular, the article needs some information on climate change which is currently not mentioned at all. Even the word "climate" hardly features (it appears exactly twice). Most country articles have a sub-heading on Climate under Geography. The sub-article Climate of India does have a section on climate change. So some content (2-3 sentences) could be lifted from there and included in the main article about India, with a link to Climate of India. At the moment, it is too far down in the substructure of trees (India -> Geography of India -> Climate of India -> Climate change). The 2-3 sentence could say something about where India ranks in terms of CO2 emissions, what the government plans to do and what the impacts of climate change are on livelihoods in India so far. It could be lifted and summarised from here: /info/en/?search=Climate_of_India#Climate_change . I look forward to any comments or reactions and hope they can be free of personal attacks, thank you. EMsmile ( talk) 13:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I agree. That's what I've been arguing elsewhere too. I think that also makes it easier to determine whether points are actually due in such a high-level article, as the information will be directly mentioned next to similar points. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 09:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I hear you SandyGeorgia, Chipmunkdavis, and Femkemilene, and will return to what I am supposed to be doing. My crankiness, as you know, is well-known, but it is benign at its core. Thanks for your posts. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
As requested, for comments. There should be a single row gallery beneath (NOT a multiple image) which I can do later. "Architecture" will I hope be shorter, & literature should have its own section. Johnbod ( talk) 03:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
India has a very ancient tradition of art, which has exchanged many influences with the rest of Eurasia, especially in the first millenium, when Buddhist art spread with Indian religions to Central, East and South-East Asia, the last also greatly influenced by Hindu art. [1] Thousands of seals from the Indus Valley Civilization have been found, usually carved with animals, but a few with human figures. The Pashupati seal is the best known. [2] After this there is a long period with virtually nothing surviving, [3] after which almost all surviving ancient Indian art is in various forms of religious sculpture in durable materials, or coins. There there was probably originally far more in wood, which is lost. In north India Mauryan art is the first imperial movement, and the Lion Capital of Sarnath from about 250 BCE is now India's national symbol. [4] Over the following centuries a distinct Indian style of sculpting the human figure developed, with less interest in articulating precise anatomy than ancient Greek sculpture but showing smoothly-flowing forms expressing prana ("breath" or life-force). [5] This is often complicated by the need to give figures multiple arms or heads, or represent different genders on the left and right of figures, as with the Ardhanarishvara form of Shiva and Parvati. [6]
Most of the earliest large sculpture is Buddhist, either excavated from Buddhist stupas such as Sanchi, Sarnath and Amaravati, [7] or is rock-cut reliefs at sites such as Ajanta, Karla and Ellora. Hindu and Jain sites appear rather later. [8] In spite of this complex mixture of religious traditions, generally, the prevailing artistic style at any time and place has been shared by the major religious groups, and sculptors probably usually served all communities. [9] Gupta art, at its peak between about 300 CE and 500 CE, is often regarded as a classical period whose influence lingered for many centuries after; it saw a new dominance of Hindu sculpture, as at the Elephanta Caves. [10] Across the north, this became rather stiff and formulaic after about 800 CE, though rich with finely carved detail in the surrounds of statues. [11] But in the South, under the Pallava and Chola dynasties, sculpture in both stone and bronze had a sustained period of great achievement; the large bronzes with Shiva as Nataraja have become an iconic symbol of India. [12]
Ancient painting has only survived at a few sites, of which the crowded scenes of court life in the Ajanta Caves are by far the most important, but it was evidently highly developed, and is mentioned as a courtly accomplishment in Gupta times. [13] Painted manuscripts of religious texts survive from Eastern India about the 10th century onwards, most of the earliest being Buddhist and later Jain. No doubt the style of these was used in larger paintings. [14] The Persian-derived Deccan painting, starting just before the Mughal miniature, between them give the first large body of secular painting, with an emphasis on portraits, and the recording of princely pleasures and wars. [15] The style spread to Hindu courts, especially among the Rajputs, and developed a variety of styles, with the smaller courts often the most innovative, with figures such as Nihâl Chand and Nainsukh. [16] As a market developed among European residents, it was supplied by Company painting by Indian artists with considerable Western influence. [17] In the 19th century, cheap Kalighat paintings of gods and everyday life, done on paper, were urban folk art from Calcutta, which later saw the Bengal School of Art, reflecting the art colleges founded by the British, the first movement in modern Indian painting. [18]
Johnbod ( talk) 03:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
I didn't realize it illustrated the architecture, having read only the section title which has "Art." OK I understand.
Johnbod ( talk) 17:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- does the same job. Do we need the tiger's name? I think my captions in the art section are sufficient terse, apart from the Mughal one, which can be trimmed. Johnbod ( talk) 17:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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I removed an image of fishing boats intended to illustrate the Indian monsoon. The image was not appropriate for illustrating this geographical event. The moored boats were not positioned to be ready for a monsoon. My edit was reverted by an editor claiming that I could not edit this article until November. I am entitled to remove any image that is used incorrectly. That is standard Wikipedia process. Edit-warring by some self-appointed monitor (Fowler) is not acceptable. Are there any Admins watching this page, please? Charlesjsharp ( talk) 19:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Please also read his xenophobic comment here in above on this page where he says, "An actual Indian," in the caption of his proposed photograph.
Dear @ Fowler&fowler: you don't like the message, so you are attacking the messenger... The reason editors keep popping up in protest is probably just because your rhetoric and stonewalling are naturally attracting thunder, and rightly so. Look, you are using this page precisely as your own personal domain: you are now claiming around that you have "been managing India for 13 years" [2]. Any honest Wikipedian would feel outraged by such statements. For my part, I've made mistakes, but I have served my time and learned my lesson, so I have recovered my right to challenge Wikipedians who do not follow the rules [3]. You keep reverting everybody, demanding that any change ("any single word"!) should be approved first on this Talk Page, [4] in contempt of all Wikipedia rules. You have been parading a photograph of your own teenage son in Kurta ( per your own admission) in this Featured Article, and claimed community consensus without any actual approval process ( Glaring inadequacies for a Featured Article). And you keep making false claims: no, I am not new on this page [5] [6]. Like most of us, I do not like when Hindu nationalists distort a page, and this has to be resisted, but I am afraid you are at the other extreme, an overt vilifyer of Hindus and Hinduism (do I need to give the multitude of sickening diffs over the years?). This is very unhealthy and disfunctional for someone who forcibly monopolizes the contributions to this page. @ RegentsPark:@ Vanamonde93: how can you let this happen? This flies in the face of all Wikipedia rules and time-honored practices. More balance and openness, and more respect of the rules, are needed here. @ Fowler&fowler: I'm happy to work with you, as you are obviously intelligent and highly educated, but you need to respect the contributions of others, show more tolerance, and respect Wikipedia editorial rules. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@ पाटलिपुत्र: How do you know our son is not Indian? As for me, a person who you claim is "rabidly anti-Hindu," why would I go around writing articles such as the first eight sections of Indian mathematics (please read the oral and written traditions) or Raksha Bandhan? Why would I be creating image collages such as the one you see here. Please stop, otherwise I will take you to ANI. The xenophobic hole you are digging for yourself is getting deeper. As for the rest of you xenophobia, it deserved to be aired more to be understood. I will be opening a news section soon. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
No more speculation than the meaning of a window being open. Not all fishermen batten down similarly; some are sloppy—around the world. We can discuss changes in November, but not now. I have already asked you to be a judge. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Greetings! I was going through the article and saw that the article missed out on an aspect that should have been mentioned in the para alongside the sentence stating India as ‘a nuclear state, ranking high in military expenditure’; Republic of India is considered one of the emerging superpowers of the world. [1] [2] [3] [4] Just a suggestion, I saw that countries such as China, Brazil etc had that mentioned in the last para of introduction. Thanks! Harshv7777 ( talk) 19:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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"India is the Largest Democracy in the world" is a better statement than "India is the most populous democracy in the world". Can someone please change it. Divyansh indian ( talk) 11:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please remove the following line: "The Dravidian languages of India were supplanted in the northern regions.[28]". The lines from the referenced book says the Dravidian languages were probably used in the states of Maharashtra, Gujrat and Sindh. These are considered western parts of the subcontinent and as such a very small section of the Indian Subcontinent in this context. Athosindia ( talk) 19:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
India is known as Hindustan in hindi language Eroberar ( talk) 07:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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India’s aviation industry is largely untapped with huge growth opportunities, considering that air transport is still expensive for majority of the country’s population, of which nearly 40 per cent is the upwardly mobile middle class. The industry stakeholders should engage and collaborate with policy makers to implement efficient and rational decisions that would boost India’s civil aviation industry. With the right policies and relentless focus on quality, cost and passenger interest, India would be well placed to achieve its vision of becoming the third-largest aviation market by 2020. The expenditure of Indian travellers is expected to grow up to Rs 9.5 lakh crore (US$ 136 billion) by 2021. Due to rise in demand in air travel, India will need 2,380 new commercial airplanes by 2038. [1]
The Lungi (/luŋɡi/) or Tahband is a type of sarong that originated in the Indian subcontinent, it is a traditional skirt-like lower garment wrapped around the waist, usually below the belly. Apart from India, lungis are also worn in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Nepal. [2]
Bengali cuisine generally involves a hot palette, using a large number of herbs, spices and roots in order to create dishes that are full of depth. However, these flavors can also be manipulated to create more delicate tastes, and it is important to note that dishes vary from region to region. The areas of West Bengal and Bangladesh are interesting for both their similar qualities, and inherent differences. [3]
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For the lead, is it possible to add "a country located on the Indian peninsula in South Asia"? 2603:8081:160A:BE2A:B1DE:5BA6:F09F:B7AE ( talk) 02:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Indian Peninsula and no mention of it in this article. The lead must summarize the rest of the article. As you may see by clicking the link, the Indian Peninsula is a subtopic of the Indian subcontinent, which actually is mentioned in this article. Thanks again for your input!
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Add "Despite the modern reforms brought by British Rule, they were also infamous for atrocities over Indians, most notably during the Jallianwala Bagh Incident, in Amritsar, and the involvement of British Rule in the Bengal Famine during the second world war." 223.181.89.146 ( talk) 14:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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India has 29 states. There are also 7 union territories. Telangana is a state... The article need correction
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Please check Modern humans arrived on the Indian subcontinent from Africa no later than 55,000 years ago this line and view Peopling of India article. " Peopling of India" shows that modern humans came to India 65000 years ago, not 55000. Thank you! Dineshswamiin ( talk) 08:47, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Blatant tampering being done on this page by fascists islamists on this page. Openly trying to demean non-islamic rulers/kingdoms-
"Early political consolidations gave rise to the loose-knit Maurya and Gupta Empires based in the Ganges Basin.[31] Their collective era was suffused with wide-ranging creativity,[32] but also marked by the declining status of women,[33] and the incorporation of untouchability into an organised system of belief.[g][34]" While also trying to glorify violent and fascist islamic rule-
"The Mughal Empire, in 1526, ushered in two centuries of relative peace,[41] leaving a legacy of luminous architecture.[h][42"
Request these lines be taken down or removed. Lines are specifically selected from outlier sources in order to push propaganda. Bekknqz ( talk) 20:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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This is some blatant next-level disinformation campaign. Do you think the rest of us here don't have access to the sources or do you think we're too dumb to comprehend?
1. A Population History of India: From the First Modern People to the Present Day By Tim Dyson
p. 16-17 The term loose-knit was used to refer to the Mauryan Empire, no mention of the Gupta Empire anywhere.
And ironically, the first mention of the Gupta Empire in the book is on p. 38, where the author refers to the Gupta Empire as one of the two empires with a central authority in the subcontinent (the other one being the one led by Harsha-vardhana). The attempt to talk about the two empires them collectively is clearly aimed at bashing them.
2. A Population History of India: From the First Modern People to the Present Day By Tim Dyson
p. 20 Once again, no mention of the Gupta Empire. And the page only takes about how the society changed in that period (uses the empire to denote a time period). It didn't have anything to do with Mauryas or any of their policies. And this crucial distinction has conveniently been left out to make it look as if the Mauryas were directly responsible for these social issues.
(slightly off topic) And what exactly was the point of mentioning this in the intro though? If you wanted to talk about the declining status of women then why not include how the rigorized version of the purdah system introduced by islamic rulers degraded the status of women and widened the gender divide? There are plenty of sources on this. Dr. Alice Evans has various sources on this in her blog (has a book coming up too). Do explain why these particular lines were allowed in the intro, because it's very clear that these were aimed at degrading these kingdoms (adding the word "creativity" is a very poor attempt at sugarcoating it). Gupta Empire is considered to be the golden age (something intro worthy) of Indian history, but of course, no mention of it anywhere.
3. A History of India By Professor of Asian History Hermann Kulke, Dietmar Rothermund
p. 93 Faxian visited during the reign of Chandragupta II (Gupta Empire), has nothing to do with the Mauryas.
4. India Before Europe by Catherine B. Asher, Cynthia Talbot
p. 152 It was AKBAR who ushered in a period of relative peace. Replacing "Akbar" with "Mughals" only shows malicious intent. What's exactly the harm in being specific that it was Akbar and not some other Mughal ruler? Also, the previous page clearly says: "Akbar's policy of toleration remained largely intact through the reigns of the next two Mughal emperors, although over time the empire took on increasingly conservative attitudes toward religion." Why was such an important and relevant (yet brief) point left out in exchange for substituting 'Akbar' with 'Mughals'?
5. "luminous architecture"? The book doesn't use these words anywhere. Unnecessary paraphrasing to over-emphasize.
Not gonna let fascist propaganda take over Wikipedia. Everyone here has access to all these sources and you can't blatantly dismiss stuff by simply labelling it "well sourced", even though half the things aren't even in the sources to begin with. I know I'm supposed to suggest appropriate changes too, but I'll let you handle them accordingly. Bekknqz ( talk) 08:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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Driving Left to Right
The driving side in india is on Right side. Sameer Rolekar ( talk) 17:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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The map of India on this page is hugely incorrect and should be deleted until such time as a correct map approved by (or at least acceptable to) the Survey of India is available. Furthermore, the current map does not show the official (de jure) borders in undisputed territory or the de facto borders and all related claims where there's a dispute. It seems like a cartoon map where somebody has used straight lines anywhere there is a controversy. Today the Govt of India has complained to the WMF about a wrong map of India and threatened people with imprisonment, so its high time we the EN:WP community get this properly resolved. Aghore ( talk) 12:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
You are absolutely right Praful7789 ( talk) 16:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change population in 2011 from ‘1,211 million’ to the more standard ‘1.211 billion’ in paragraph 4 of the introduction Prince Of Iso ( talk) 02:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to make the pictures a normal size. Many pictures seems out of scale.-- 104.249.226.19 ( talk) 15:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Why pictures so different here compared to other countries? Is this why there is a star on the page to indicate it needs to be changed? -- 104.192.232.10 ( talk) 15:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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the india map is not accurate and both pok and china are integral part of india as in lastest official map
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अनुवाद => (Translation) - Please do not pollute/misrepresent hindi language.
Change (Hindi: Bhārat) to (हिंदी में भारत) Change (Hindi: Bhārat Gaṇarājya) to (हिंदी में भारत गणराज्य) 2601:647:4001:6A70:6CA4:3A82:24C8:E14E ( talk) 01:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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I would like to change the GDP estimates from 2020 to 2021. Hence, I would like to update India's GDP nominal to 2.83 trillion and it's PPP to 9.6 trillion Krao212 ( talk) 20:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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Pls add the id of India that is hindistan in the TDVIA Nonameonlyusername ( talk) 12:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Include the Maurya and Mughal empires above the section titled "independence from British". SherKhaan ( talk) 19:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Note g has a misplaced quotation mark. /info/en/?search=India#cite_note-41 If the note is a quote, then quotation marks should surround it on both sides, without a space in between. If it's not a quote, the quotation mark should be removed. 80.6.233.101 ( talk) 16:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Your valuable comments on notability are requested at Draft talk:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai#RfC: Is this topic notable or not ?
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Something very wrong with the pixel size for many images here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.90.87 ( talk) 09:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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The area under control in map Ved-win ( talk) 12:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I want changes in the area under control in the map Source:india.gov.in Ved-win ( talk) 12:01, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
1) Jainism is older then Hinduism, The Rig Veda (the oldest vedic text) mentions Jain rituals which Hinduism does not do. 2) Hinduism stems from the Aryan invasion which involved the caste system as Northwest lighter skin Aryans blended racial and ethnic privileges into the culture to rule a subdued majority, none of the original Vedic books mention anything about caste. 3) Many worshipped Hindu Gods like Shiva and Ganesh and Vishnu and Parvati are not mentioned at all in the Rig Veda, these Gods all are documented some time after the Aryan Invasion.
Hindu fascists attempts to distort and steal history to call themselves the original religion of India and predate Hinduism thousands of years before its conception, however common sense will subdue their falsifications, Temples are not built by hunter gathers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.132.99.144 ( talk) 04:44, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Please remain neutral and help maintain the neutrality of wiki. Your paragraph shows how poorly informed you are. Vilok Coontoor ( talk) 11:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok neo jainist Vedas Are written in different Yugas Vedas can be even dated back to millions of years get out of this site neo jainist b word 950CMR ( talk) 16:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Well known academics like Joshua jonathan doesn't believe in bull crap things such as Aryan invasion theory here's why! Neo jainist Janemjaya and parikshit are historical persons and they had overpowered advanced technology more powerful than us they would have killed Aryans if they tried to invade India many scholars Says that Vedic civilization is younger than Tamil civilization when there are cleary Vedic influences in ancient lanka people like you is the reason why India is inferior to Japan and usa 950CMR ( talk) 16:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Plus archeologists found harappan murtis doing yogic poses and the pashupati seal is Cleary rudra and they also found a harrapan murti doing the namaste sign 950CMR ( talk) 16:38, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a place for people like you get outta here do some actual research before talking anything about any culture 950CMR ( talk) 16:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Let's see how do you counter this let's see what sources and cite will you give? To back up your claim because i have sources 950CMR ( talk) 16:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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During Mughals there was no relative for hindus, so I believe it should be removed 223.186.97.67 ( talk) 19:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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During mughal rule lot of temples and hindus were killed. You can still find the same ruins used to build qutub minar. I strongly request to remove the line "relative peace during mughal rule" 223.186.97.67 ( talk) 19:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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"to have sought enlightenment," there is an error, where the comma is supposed to have a period ザアンノウンエディター ( talk) 01:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
"No ruler of this period was able to create an empire and consistently control lands much beyond his core region." Would it be fine/accurate if I changed his to their, or are the only rulers of Medieval India male? (Question has been answered) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ザアンノウンエディター ( talk • contribs)
Can I update information or data according to https://www.statista.com? I doubt on it. Dinesh ( talk) 12:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Numerical data. For example:-
I've used it before. It can be very useful as a source. Especially, I want to update the value of Gini coefficient. This is as of 2013. Here is a Source Dinesh ( talk) 16:13, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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The IMF has published its latest estimates in April 2021. The source is: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/weo-database/2021/April/weo-report?c=534,&s=NGDPD,PPPGDP,NGDPDPC,PPPPC,&sy=2019&ey=2026&ssm=0&scsm=1&scc=0&ssd=1&ssc=0&sic=0&sort=country&ds=.&br=1
GDP (PPP) 2021 estimate • Total Increase $10.207 trillion • Per capita Increase $7,332
GDP (nominal) 2021 estimate • Total Increase $3.049 trillion • Per capita Increase $2,190 Shamikinwiki ( talk) 03:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
The section contains a statement on caste that seems out of place.
At the workplace in urban India, and in international or leading Indian companies, caste-related identification has pretty much lost its importance.
This is the only statement on relevance of caste in the country today but is limited strictly to workplaces in urban India and major companies. Even assuming that the statement is correct it is too narrow for an article that should have a more national nature. We should remove it at least, or replace it with a wider statement on the subject from the summary of the main article Caste system in India. It may also be WP:UNDUE or needs to be WP:BALANCED given that the opposite it true for government jobs in the country at least in terms of statistics. See Caste_system_in_India#Affirmative_action.
In terms of accuracy of statement I checked both sources cited. Engaging With India is a free book available on the author's website so it was easy to get. It is the book that makes the cited claim but gives no references itself to data that the author bases the claim on (important as the author Wolfgang Messner does not appear to be a specialist in the subject). Also the claim is also on pages 24-25 and not on pages 27-28 as cited (new edition perhaps but ISBN is matching). This is not the case with the book Working With India which does give citations for most of its claims but does not make the claim mentioned here. This needs to be remedied by at least putting in a more accurate citation. Ujwal.Xankill3r ( talk) 05:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
However caste representation in government jobs is skewed, with SC/ST members overrepresented in group D (primarily safai karamchari) jobs, slightly overrepresented in group C jobs, and underrepresented in group A and B jobs. [3] Caste also remains a factor in the private sphere, e.g., in the choice of marriage partners, and significantly for political mobilisation. [4] Occasional instances of caste-based violence, particularly against Dalits, are also common. [5] [6]
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Based on some good work carried out by Ujwal.Xankill3r, I am proposing the following extension (in green) for the caste paragraph. Please add your comments below:
Traditional Indian society is sometimes defined by social hierarchy. The Indian caste system embodies much of the social stratification and many of the social restrictions found in the Indian subcontinent. Social classes are defined by thousands of endogamous hereditary groups, often termed as jātis, or "castes". [1] India declared untouchability to be illegal [2] in 1947 and has since enacted other anti-discriminatory laws and social welfare initiatives. At the workplace in urban India, and in international or leading Indian companies, caste-related identification has pretty much lost its importance. [3] [4] However the effects of social engineering are still limited. The former untouchables, now called scheduled castes and tribes are overrepresented in lower level jobs performing menial tasks. [5] Caste also remains a factor in the private sphere, e.g., in the choice of marriage partners, and significantly for political mobilisation. [6] Occasional instances of caste-based violence, particularly against Dalits, are also common. [7] [8]
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-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 12:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the initial suggestion of the wording Kautilya3. I think the proposed text works well. I'll go invite comments from the main India project as well, seeing how we haven't received much feedback in over a week. Ujwal.Xankill3r ( talk) 16:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
occasional instances .... are commonis poor. Instances can either be occasional or common. TrangaBellam ( talk) 17:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
India's Hindu society is the paradigmatic ethnographic example of caste, a form of social stratification characterized by endogamy, hereditary transmission of a style of life which often includes an occupation, ritual status in a hierarchy, and customary social interaction and exclusion based on cultural notions of purity and pollution. [1] In the Indo-Aryan speaking regions of India, both caste among Hindus and an associated subordination of women, go back well into the mid-first-millennium BCE and have proved difficult to root out. [2]
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The first sentence may need to be paraphrased a little. I have taken it from the first sentence in Caste (where the words are the result of a long-wearing process for a longstanding consensus). I have added generous quotes. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Under "sports and recreation", there is picture of girls playing hopscotch. The description for that picture states that it is from a town called "Juara", and the link for it takes one to the article for a town in Brazil. The actual name of the town is "Jaora". I recommend that this gets changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whakayis ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks. I think this article needs a bit of work to meet the FA criteria again.
Until the beginning of the first millennium CE, the ordinary dress of people in India was entirely unstitched. This entire section seems to have been added after the last featured article review. One paragraph max should suffice.
Further easy to fix issues include overcitation (In Tamil literature, the Sangam literature (c. 600 BCE – 300 BCE) consisting of 2,381 poems, composed by 473 poets, is the earliest work. + 4 cites
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I have not written the following sections or subsections: 5, 6, 7, 7.1, 7.2 (?), 8 (?), 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.6. Of these, 9.1 and 9.2 are the most easily rewritten, especially with the expert knowledge of Johnbod I would greatly welcome that if he has the time. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting we replace them. My goal is to reduce sandwiching to comply with the manual of style. I would like to propose we have fewer of them in this top-level article. I'm aware of sensitivities around POV, and hope we can avoid them by focusing just on FA criteria. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 23:14, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not in a hurry, which my previous post made clear. I should have mentioned FAR in my first post, but I refrained from that to take the time pressure off. I will develop a proposal wrt climate change below, slowly, and allowing for feedback from other regulars. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 15:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I'll re-iterate the point that I made above about the content of the article: In particular, the article needs some information on climate change which is currently not mentioned at all. Even the word "climate" hardly features (it appears exactly twice). Most country articles have a sub-heading on Climate under Geography. The sub-article Climate of India does have a section on climate change. So some content (2-3 sentences) could be lifted from there and included in the main article about India, with a link to Climate of India. At the moment, it is too far down in the substructure of trees (India -> Geography of India -> Climate of India -> Climate change). The 2-3 sentence could say something about where India ranks in terms of CO2 emissions, what the government plans to do and what the impacts of climate change are on livelihoods in India so far. It could be lifted and summarised from here: /info/en/?search=Climate_of_India#Climate_change . I look forward to any comments or reactions and hope they can be free of personal attacks, thank you. EMsmile ( talk) 13:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I agree. That's what I've been arguing elsewhere too. I think that also makes it easier to determine whether points are actually due in such a high-level article, as the information will be directly mentioned next to similar points. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 09:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I hear you SandyGeorgia, Chipmunkdavis, and Femkemilene, and will return to what I am supposed to be doing. My crankiness, as you know, is well-known, but it is benign at its core. Thanks for your posts. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 13:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
As requested, for comments. There should be a single row gallery beneath (NOT a multiple image) which I can do later. "Architecture" will I hope be shorter, & literature should have its own section. Johnbod ( talk) 03:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
India has a very ancient tradition of art, which has exchanged many influences with the rest of Eurasia, especially in the first millenium, when Buddhist art spread with Indian religions to Central, East and South-East Asia, the last also greatly influenced by Hindu art. [1] Thousands of seals from the Indus Valley Civilization have been found, usually carved with animals, but a few with human figures. The Pashupati seal is the best known. [2] After this there is a long period with virtually nothing surviving, [3] after which almost all surviving ancient Indian art is in various forms of religious sculpture in durable materials, or coins. There there was probably originally far more in wood, which is lost. In north India Mauryan art is the first imperial movement, and the Lion Capital of Sarnath from about 250 BCE is now India's national symbol. [4] Over the following centuries a distinct Indian style of sculpting the human figure developed, with less interest in articulating precise anatomy than ancient Greek sculpture but showing smoothly-flowing forms expressing prana ("breath" or life-force). [5] This is often complicated by the need to give figures multiple arms or heads, or represent different genders on the left and right of figures, as with the Ardhanarishvara form of Shiva and Parvati. [6]
Most of the earliest large sculpture is Buddhist, either excavated from Buddhist stupas such as Sanchi, Sarnath and Amaravati, [7] or is rock-cut reliefs at sites such as Ajanta, Karla and Ellora. Hindu and Jain sites appear rather later. [8] In spite of this complex mixture of religious traditions, generally, the prevailing artistic style at any time and place has been shared by the major religious groups, and sculptors probably usually served all communities. [9] Gupta art, at its peak between about 300 CE and 500 CE, is often regarded as a classical period whose influence lingered for many centuries after; it saw a new dominance of Hindu sculpture, as at the Elephanta Caves. [10] Across the north, this became rather stiff and formulaic after about 800 CE, though rich with finely carved detail in the surrounds of statues. [11] But in the South, under the Pallava and Chola dynasties, sculpture in both stone and bronze had a sustained period of great achievement; the large bronzes with Shiva as Nataraja have become an iconic symbol of India. [12]
Ancient painting has only survived at a few sites, of which the crowded scenes of court life in the Ajanta Caves are by far the most important, but it was evidently highly developed, and is mentioned as a courtly accomplishment in Gupta times. [13] Painted manuscripts of religious texts survive from Eastern India about the 10th century onwards, most of the earliest being Buddhist and later Jain. No doubt the style of these was used in larger paintings. [14] The Persian-derived Deccan painting, starting just before the Mughal miniature, between them give the first large body of secular painting, with an emphasis on portraits, and the recording of princely pleasures and wars. [15] The style spread to Hindu courts, especially among the Rajputs, and developed a variety of styles, with the smaller courts often the most innovative, with figures such as Nihâl Chand and Nainsukh. [16] As a market developed among European residents, it was supplied by Company painting by Indian artists with considerable Western influence. [17] In the 19th century, cheap Kalighat paintings of gods and everyday life, done on paper, were urban folk art from Calcutta, which later saw the Bengal School of Art, reflecting the art colleges founded by the British, the first movement in modern Indian painting. [18]
Johnbod ( talk) 03:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
I didn't realize it illustrated the architecture, having read only the section title which has "Art." OK I understand.
Johnbod ( talk) 17:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- does the same job. Do we need the tiger's name? I think my captions in the art section are sufficient terse, apart from the Mughal one, which can be trimmed. Johnbod ( talk) 17:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)