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Tjpolega:The text currently reads In the United States, some sex education programs encourage
abstinence, the choice to restrain oneself from sexual activity.
. However, it is a matter of
WP:BLUESKY that abstinence-only is the teaching
Sexual abstinence and no other form of birth control. I would not question the text were the link to
abstinence or to
sexual abstinence, or if the pipe and descriptive phrase were removed, e.g., In the United States, some sex education programs encourage
abstinence-only sex education
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this edit and
this edit for context. --
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
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10:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Early on in this article, this is present re nature vs nurture and extent of homosexuality. Njsm11 ( talk) 02:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Noting the GLM and scales. Njsm11 ( talk) 02:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Also MANCOVA and the Sell. Njsm11 ( talk) 00:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Cisgender sexuality and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 8#Cisgender sexuality until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TraderCharlotte ( talk) 03:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
The following passage is overly specific: "Oxytocin, sometimes referred to as the 'love hormone,' is released in both sexes during sexual intercourse when an orgasm is achieved." In particular, the phrase "during sexual intercourse" is not a necessary part of every situation "when an orgasm is achieved" i.e. during orgasm. Orgasm doesn't require sexual intercourse. No matter whether the quoted source includes that phrase, the facts need to be stated as simply as possible. yoyo ( talk) 06:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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CactiStaccingCrane and
SchreiberBike: A recent edit (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Human_sexuality&diff=prev&oldid=1121873947) removed the word proximity from "
Flirting, the use of indirect behavior to convey romantic or sexual interest. It can involve verbal or non-verbal cues, such as sexual comments,
body language, gazing, or close proximity to another,
" via
WP;JWB, I reverted that edit and
SchreiberBike reinstated the change with the comment "close proximity" is redundant in that context. "Close" inherently deals with proximity.
. However, close is an adjective, not a noun, so the sentence is now grammatically incorrect. Either or close proximity to another
or or proximity to another
would be grammatically correct.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk)
16:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
" Hypothesized social causes are supported by only weak evidence, distorted by numerous confounding factors."
This sentence is not clear enough. The data shows that the specificity of which social causes are involved is murky, but "the evidence for environmental influence is unequivocal, given that MZ twin concordances tend to be far less than 100%" - source
Change the sentence to clarify that the prevalence of these social causes is unequivocal, but the exact nature of what these causes are is undeveloped and only established by weak evidence.
Even if the sentence is true, readers may read it in a different way. Lainlain987 ( talk) 19:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
However, there is considerably more evidence supporting nonsocial causes of sexual orientation than social causes. This evidence includes the cross-culturally robust finding that adult homosexuality is strongly related to childhood gender nonconformity; moderate genetic influences demonstrated in well-sampled twin studies; the cross-culturally robust fraternal-birth-order effect on male sexual orientation; and the finding that when infant boys are surgically and socially “changed” into girls, their eventual sexual orientation is unchanged (i.e., they remain sexually attracted to females). In contrast, evidence for the most commonly hypothesized social causes of homosexuality—sexual recruitment by homosexual adults, patterns of disordered parenting, or the influence of homosexual parents—is generally weak in magnitude and distorted by numerous confounding factors.
It feels like a disappointing oversight that there is not even so much as a mention of atypical sexual interests, fetishism, kinks, paraphilia, etc., despite the fact that they are a unique and interesting part of human sexuality. Sexual fetishes are not so uncommon as to be an invalid or non-noteworthy part of human sexuality, and so I hope that we can figure out a reasonable way to work them into this article. FuwaFuwaDL ( talk) 08:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the idea. I’ll incorporate some things in future. Zenomonoz ( talk) 22:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Autisticeditor 20: please fill in a source for the ref you named "rodriguez". -- Fyrael ( talk) 19:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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Above message substituted from {{WAP assignment}}
on 14:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
@
Tjpolega:The text currently reads In the United States, some sex education programs encourage
abstinence, the choice to restrain oneself from sexual activity.
. However, it is a matter of
WP:BLUESKY that abstinence-only is the teaching
Sexual abstinence and no other form of birth control. I would not question the text were the link to
abstinence or to
sexual abstinence, or if the pipe and descriptive phrase were removed, e.g., In the United States, some sex education programs encourage
abstinence-only sex education
. See
this edit and
this edit for context. --
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk)
10:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Early on in this article, this is present re nature vs nurture and extent of homosexuality. Njsm11 ( talk) 02:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Noting the GLM and scales. Njsm11 ( talk) 02:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Also MANCOVA and the Sell. Njsm11 ( talk) 00:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Cisgender sexuality and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 8#Cisgender sexuality until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TraderCharlotte ( talk) 03:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
The following passage is overly specific: "Oxytocin, sometimes referred to as the 'love hormone,' is released in both sexes during sexual intercourse when an orgasm is achieved." In particular, the phrase "during sexual intercourse" is not a necessary part of every situation "when an orgasm is achieved" i.e. during orgasm. Orgasm doesn't require sexual intercourse. No matter whether the quoted source includes that phrase, the facts need to be stated as simply as possible. yoyo ( talk) 06:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
@
CactiStaccingCrane and
SchreiberBike: A recent edit (
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Human_sexuality&diff=prev&oldid=1121873947) removed the word proximity from "
Flirting, the use of indirect behavior to convey romantic or sexual interest. It can involve verbal or non-verbal cues, such as sexual comments,
body language, gazing, or close proximity to another,
" via
WP;JWB, I reverted that edit and
SchreiberBike reinstated the change with the comment "close proximity" is redundant in that context. "Close" inherently deals with proximity.
. However, close is an adjective, not a noun, so the sentence is now grammatically incorrect. Either or close proximity to another
or or proximity to another
would be grammatically correct.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk)
16:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
" Hypothesized social causes are supported by only weak evidence, distorted by numerous confounding factors."
This sentence is not clear enough. The data shows that the specificity of which social causes are involved is murky, but "the evidence for environmental influence is unequivocal, given that MZ twin concordances tend to be far less than 100%" - source
Change the sentence to clarify that the prevalence of these social causes is unequivocal, but the exact nature of what these causes are is undeveloped and only established by weak evidence.
Even if the sentence is true, readers may read it in a different way. Lainlain987 ( talk) 19:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
However, there is considerably more evidence supporting nonsocial causes of sexual orientation than social causes. This evidence includes the cross-culturally robust finding that adult homosexuality is strongly related to childhood gender nonconformity; moderate genetic influences demonstrated in well-sampled twin studies; the cross-culturally robust fraternal-birth-order effect on male sexual orientation; and the finding that when infant boys are surgically and socially “changed” into girls, their eventual sexual orientation is unchanged (i.e., they remain sexually attracted to females). In contrast, evidence for the most commonly hypothesized social causes of homosexuality—sexual recruitment by homosexual adults, patterns of disordered parenting, or the influence of homosexual parents—is generally weak in magnitude and distorted by numerous confounding factors.
It feels like a disappointing oversight that there is not even so much as a mention of atypical sexual interests, fetishism, kinks, paraphilia, etc., despite the fact that they are a unique and interesting part of human sexuality. Sexual fetishes are not so uncommon as to be an invalid or non-noteworthy part of human sexuality, and so I hope that we can figure out a reasonable way to work them into this article. FuwaFuwaDL ( talk) 08:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the idea. I’ll incorporate some things in future. Zenomonoz ( talk) 22:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Autisticeditor 20: please fill in a source for the ref you named "rodriguez". -- Fyrael ( talk) 19:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)