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Are we sure that this is set in 1994? In episode 3 the Corrs song What Can I do was played as the priest was walking away. What can I do was released in 1998 so it would not have been heard in 1994. Mobile mundo ( talk) 18:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Both versions are used in the article. Which one is correct? Mobile mundo ( talk) 22:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I have removed the LGBT categories again. I accept that episode 6 saw one of the characters come out as lesbian but that does not make the series in any way significantly related to the subject. The series is over and only in the last episode has it been raised, although there has previously been the taunting of the English lad also. If we add this type of category here then it should be added to pretty much every soap opera broadcast in the UK, for example, and it is not. They all have storylines of this nature as a part of the diversity campaign etc but unless it is a major theme, the category appears to be undue. - Sitush ( talk) 19:28, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Produced by a British company and broadcast by a British broadcaster but featuring a cast that is mostly Irish of some description (Eire and/or Northern, I am not checking every bio to figure it out) and written by someone of similar description. I realise that some people in Ireland get very pissed off with what they perceive as oppressive descriptions etc relating to mainland Britain and that, yes, the terminology often leads to edit wars, but I'm pretty sure that the standard taken by Wikipedia is that it is the production company that matters when determining the national origin.
In any event, I think the recent attempts to add Irish and even to replace British entirely with that descriptor, are misleading at best precisely because there is no united Ireland. If it goes in at all, it will almost certainly need to be more nuanced. - Sitush ( talk) 23:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
And a quick note about terminology for those not from the British Isles. Britain is England and Wales. Great Britain is England, Wales, and Scotland (Act of the Union, 1707 and later). The UK is by its full title "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Most would imply by that full title that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain or Great Britain; some however would disagree (quite vehemently no doubt). The former title of the UK was "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland" (prior to partition), obviously many would object to saying that Ireland was a part of Britain (back then or now). Welcome to the identity politics of Ireland (north or south). Some from Northern Ireland would say they are British and some go further and say that Northern Ireland is also British (even though officially the name of the UK would imply otherwise). 82.7.191.68 ( talk) 22:48, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't see how it can be argued it is British purely based on the studio by which it is produced. Harry Potter is produced by Warner Bros. Yet it is still referred to as British. Netcald ( talk) 19:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I believe it should be referred to as Irish. The Good Friday Agreement gives the people in NI (where this is set) “the right of "the people of Northern Ireland" to "identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both"”. I think the show, and characters, and setting identify themselves as Irish. Even by using the term “Derry” (rather than “Londonderry” #) show an Irish identification. Ebelular ( talk) 14:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
The show itself does very little in the way of explaining the context (eg: doesn't actually explain what the Orange Order is). Perhaps this page should.
I know some people are obsessive about stuff but do we really have to have the plot summaries? If the series is ever repeated, they're spoilers. If it isn't, well, they're not a great loss. It strikes me that too much effort is being expended on repeated changes to something of little worth. And please don't say that other series have them so this one should - I don't consider that to be a valid reason for anything in particular and I have a strong suspicion that most people do not give a damn about them.
It is/was a throwaway comedy series, not some iconic multi-part documentary intended to explain and define history or whatever, eg: The World at War. Most of the cast weren't even particularly well-known at the time. - Sitush ( talk) 18:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
I stumbled across the following source for s3:
Tiernan also confirmed that filming is due to begin in April
but I guess Covid's blown that out of the water. Cabayi ( talk) 13:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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Derry Girls is actually a northern Irish sitcom , not a British sitcom. It focuses on a catholic northern Irish family not a Protestant. If it were to focus on a Protestant family it would be a British sitcom. If you refer to Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie-Lee_O'Donnell you can see the lead actress is originally from Derry , where the sitcom is set - and it states she is a norther Irish actress. Which makes the sitcom Northern Irish NOT British. Kirsten Browne ( talk) 12:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Should be 'Northern Irish sitcom' instead of 'British sitcom' Lazyyymondaysss ( talk) 04:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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I want to change this page to say that this series is a Northern Irish sitcom and not a British sitcom. Northern Ireland might be part of the U.K. but it's not in Britain. JeffJefferson3333 ( talk) 14:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
This is not a multi-camera show. An example of one would be The IT Crowd. This is a single-camera show, like Toast of London. Bondfool ( talk) 12:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
I believe we should remove the reference to the show as British. The opening to this article currently reads as "Derry Girls is a British teen sitcom created and written by Lisa McGee that premiered on 4 January 2018 on Channel 4" The connection the show has to Britain is that it is made by a British production company Hat Trick productions for British television network Channel 4. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom the term British and Britain refers to the island of Britain. Father Ted was also made by this same British company and television network and there is no reference to it being a British show in its opening, "Father Ted is a sitcom created by Irish writers Graham Linehan and Arthur Mathews and produced by British production company Hat Trick Productions for Channel 4." As this show is written by an Irish writer (Born in Northern Ireland and identifys as Irish) the article should follow the same format as Father Ted example "Derry Girls is a teen sitcom created and written by Irish writer Lisa McGee and produced by British production company Hat Trick Productions for Channel 4" — Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishReader1996 ( talk • contribs) 20:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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So an editor keeps insisting on removing the term "great uncle" on the grounds that it's a term that doesn't exist, and changing it to "grand uncle" despite the evidence that A) a great uncle is indeed a thing and B) is more used than grand uncle Even the dictionary definition for grand uncle states it's another term for great uncle. Not sure why this editor is so insistent that the actual term used in British and Irish English is removed in favour of a less used term that isn't the English variation of the article anyway. It makes no sense to change a valid, and the most used, term for a lesser used term that isn't used as frequently in the version of English for the article and subject. Canterbury Tail talk 17:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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"Change British sitcom to Irish sitcom. Story follows Irish identifying characters and point of view in Northern Ireland, not British". 91.125.2.180 ( talk) 10:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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Are we sure that this is set in 1994? In episode 3 the Corrs song What Can I do was played as the priest was walking away. What can I do was released in 1998 so it would not have been heard in 1994. Mobile mundo ( talk) 18:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Both versions are used in the article. Which one is correct? Mobile mundo ( talk) 22:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I have removed the LGBT categories again. I accept that episode 6 saw one of the characters come out as lesbian but that does not make the series in any way significantly related to the subject. The series is over and only in the last episode has it been raised, although there has previously been the taunting of the English lad also. If we add this type of category here then it should be added to pretty much every soap opera broadcast in the UK, for example, and it is not. They all have storylines of this nature as a part of the diversity campaign etc but unless it is a major theme, the category appears to be undue. - Sitush ( talk) 19:28, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Produced by a British company and broadcast by a British broadcaster but featuring a cast that is mostly Irish of some description (Eire and/or Northern, I am not checking every bio to figure it out) and written by someone of similar description. I realise that some people in Ireland get very pissed off with what they perceive as oppressive descriptions etc relating to mainland Britain and that, yes, the terminology often leads to edit wars, but I'm pretty sure that the standard taken by Wikipedia is that it is the production company that matters when determining the national origin.
In any event, I think the recent attempts to add Irish and even to replace British entirely with that descriptor, are misleading at best precisely because there is no united Ireland. If it goes in at all, it will almost certainly need to be more nuanced. - Sitush ( talk) 23:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
And a quick note about terminology for those not from the British Isles. Britain is England and Wales. Great Britain is England, Wales, and Scotland (Act of the Union, 1707 and later). The UK is by its full title "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Most would imply by that full title that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain or Great Britain; some however would disagree (quite vehemently no doubt). The former title of the UK was "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland" (prior to partition), obviously many would object to saying that Ireland was a part of Britain (back then or now). Welcome to the identity politics of Ireland (north or south). Some from Northern Ireland would say they are British and some go further and say that Northern Ireland is also British (even though officially the name of the UK would imply otherwise). 82.7.191.68 ( talk) 22:48, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
I don't see how it can be argued it is British purely based on the studio by which it is produced. Harry Potter is produced by Warner Bros. Yet it is still referred to as British. Netcald ( talk) 19:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I believe it should be referred to as Irish. The Good Friday Agreement gives the people in NI (where this is set) “the right of "the people of Northern Ireland" to "identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both"”. I think the show, and characters, and setting identify themselves as Irish. Even by using the term “Derry” (rather than “Londonderry” #) show an Irish identification. Ebelular ( talk) 14:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
The show itself does very little in the way of explaining the context (eg: doesn't actually explain what the Orange Order is). Perhaps this page should.
I know some people are obsessive about stuff but do we really have to have the plot summaries? If the series is ever repeated, they're spoilers. If it isn't, well, they're not a great loss. It strikes me that too much effort is being expended on repeated changes to something of little worth. And please don't say that other series have them so this one should - I don't consider that to be a valid reason for anything in particular and I have a strong suspicion that most people do not give a damn about them.
It is/was a throwaway comedy series, not some iconic multi-part documentary intended to explain and define history or whatever, eg: The World at War. Most of the cast weren't even particularly well-known at the time. - Sitush ( talk) 18:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
I stumbled across the following source for s3:
Tiernan also confirmed that filming is due to begin in April
but I guess Covid's blown that out of the water. Cabayi ( talk) 13:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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Derry Girls is actually a northern Irish sitcom , not a British sitcom. It focuses on a catholic northern Irish family not a Protestant. If it were to focus on a Protestant family it would be a British sitcom. If you refer to Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie-Lee_O'Donnell you can see the lead actress is originally from Derry , where the sitcom is set - and it states she is a norther Irish actress. Which makes the sitcom Northern Irish NOT British. Kirsten Browne ( talk) 12:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Should be 'Northern Irish sitcom' instead of 'British sitcom' Lazyyymondaysss ( talk) 04:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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I want to change this page to say that this series is a Northern Irish sitcom and not a British sitcom. Northern Ireland might be part of the U.K. but it's not in Britain. JeffJefferson3333 ( talk) 14:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
This is not a multi-camera show. An example of one would be The IT Crowd. This is a single-camera show, like Toast of London. Bondfool ( talk) 12:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
I believe we should remove the reference to the show as British. The opening to this article currently reads as "Derry Girls is a British teen sitcom created and written by Lisa McGee that premiered on 4 January 2018 on Channel 4" The connection the show has to Britain is that it is made by a British production company Hat Trick productions for British television network Channel 4. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom the term British and Britain refers to the island of Britain. Father Ted was also made by this same British company and television network and there is no reference to it being a British show in its opening, "Father Ted is a sitcom created by Irish writers Graham Linehan and Arthur Mathews and produced by British production company Hat Trick Productions for Channel 4." As this show is written by an Irish writer (Born in Northern Ireland and identifys as Irish) the article should follow the same format as Father Ted example "Derry Girls is a teen sitcom created and written by Irish writer Lisa McGee and produced by British production company Hat Trick Productions for Channel 4" — Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishReader1996 ( talk • contribs) 20:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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So an editor keeps insisting on removing the term "great uncle" on the grounds that it's a term that doesn't exist, and changing it to "grand uncle" despite the evidence that A) a great uncle is indeed a thing and B) is more used than grand uncle Even the dictionary definition for grand uncle states it's another term for great uncle. Not sure why this editor is so insistent that the actual term used in British and Irish English is removed in favour of a less used term that isn't the English variation of the article anyway. It makes no sense to change a valid, and the most used, term for a lesser used term that isn't used as frequently in the version of English for the article and subject. Canterbury Tail talk 17:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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"Change British sitcom to Irish sitcom. Story follows Irish identifying characters and point of view in Northern Ireland, not British". 91.125.2.180 ( talk) 10:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)