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Please change name Charles, Prince of Wales to Charles III of United Kingdom. 2A00:23C4:7A88:4C00:50C1:7DC9:9DCA:9C04 ( talk) 22:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
...he took command of the coastal minehunter HMS Bronington for his last ten months of active service in the navy.
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Per the recommendation of the closer of the previous Rfc.
How should Charles be defined in the lead? Here are the final options.
GoodDay ( talk) 13:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Even if how he is most often defined were supported by a reliable source (which it is not), it wouldn't, nor shouldn't, subdue the fact, acknowledged by supporters of options 1 and 2, that he is heir in countries other than the UK. There are different ways to inform readers of Charles' country of origin, if such information is necessary for the lede. -- ₪ MIESIANIACAL 20:47, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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Change Prince Henry of Wales to Prince Harry of Wales, under issue Aîrborne ( talk) 08:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
This article could mention that in April 2018, Queen Elizabeth II said she wanted Prince Charles to succeed her as head of the Commonwealth. Vorbee ( talk) 17:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Re [3], no reliable source says that Antony Armstrong-Jones was a member of the royal family, therefore he was not a member of the royal family. According to Buckingham Palace, he was "a Peer of the Realm and the husband of a member of the Royal Family". [1] Firebrace ( talk) 14:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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My contribution was removed by User:Melcous. After editing and reviewing my edits keep being removed also by User:Absolutelypuremilk and User:Noq. Can we please discuss this? Please approach with good faith as my contributions definitely are. Danainlondon ( talk) 14:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Danainlondon: - your last edit violates the WP:3RR rule - please self-revert and wait for consensus to be reached. You reverted 3 times before coming here and then reverted a fourth time before consensus was reached - this is not following WP:BRD. The current sponsors name is not used in the domain name for the team. Pushing your employers name is not necessary (unless that is your goal).
There appears to be very little coverage about the Welsh team on google. And that is as likely to either omit the sponsors name or use a previous sponsor. noq ( talk) 17:05, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Information to be added or removed: To the Sports section under Hobbies and personal interests please add – Charles currently acts as the Patron for the Centtrip Wales Polo Team.
Explanation of issue: The sentences give the impression that Charles is no longer involved in polo, however this is false.
References supporting change: [1]
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the article's lead is too short, i just added important things which he has done over the course of the years, which has been much publicised and its impact, you can't just remove it because you don't like it or better you feel its not important, discuss it first, all i wrote was important, i see no reason why it shouldn't be in the lead, discuss before making your unnecessary edit, i don't want to start another edit conflict with you, as an administrator, you should know better, perhaps we need another one to solve this discussion for us. Monkelese ( talk) 06:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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victi = victims ? 2605:E000:9149:8300:F1FB:D55A:D6E9:F38E ( talk) 13:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Should the lede mention that Charles is the heir apparent to the thrones of all the Commonwealth Realms, not just that of Britain? Compare the lede of Elizabeth_II. Grover cleveland ( talk) 20:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Do any articles, including the ones below, have any merit or are they just a tactic to sell more newspapers?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1210550/prince-charles-title-queen-step-down-18-months-retire-prince-regent-royal-family-latest "The only reason a regency would ever be contemplated is if she became seriously ill, either mentally or physically," Royal Author Phil Dampier .... The Regency Act 1937 made way for a regent to step in should a monarch become incapacitated.
https://nationalpost.com/news/the-shadow-king-royal-conspiracy-theory-that-the-queen-will-hand-reins-to-charles-is-plausible-but-unlikely Royal conspiracy theory that the Queen will hand reins to Charles is plausible, but unlikely
Also see Regency Acts Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:22, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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Change "He has been Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay since 1952, and he is the oldest and longest-serving heir apparent in British history" to "He has been Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay since 1952, and he is the longest-serving heir apparent in British history."
Sophia of Hanover was heir to the English throne from 1702 at the age of 71/72. By her death at the age of 83,in 1714, she was heir to the British throne. Charles might be the oldest Prince of Wales but he is not the oldest heir apparent/presumptive.
Now, if there is some definite difference between heir presumptive and heir apparent, I might be incorrect. 137.191.230.202 ( talk) 12:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I note the deletion of my additions concerning HRH's recent visits to Jerusalem and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem
User;Clive sweeting 7February 2020 and a further deletion re Charles' Newman speech by the same person (User:Clive sweeting 27 February 2020)
Openly supports sport hunting to destroy the environment for fun. Please remove this non-sense lying. That is like defending dumping toxic waste in the ocean as environmentalism. Traditional toxic waste dumping from 300 years ago, to give it emotional appeal to conservatives of course. Just outright lying.
For those with no education: wildlife are part of the environment and cannot be mindlessly destroyed if you are an environmentalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.214.107 ( talk) 18:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Imnotverycreaatiivee: @ Sessefres: @ Netha Hussain: Will someone help with the coronavirus section I started? I don't know if the section is in the right place, I'm almost certain that the number on the tweet citation is wrong (I don't use Twitter), and the citation doesn't look right to me - shouldn't it look like the rest? Could someone please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Souniel Yadav ( talk • contribs) 08:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
DrKay, you reverted my edit here. Please let me know why it is unacceptable.— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 08:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
I edited the listed surname, as the cited page on the Royal Family website specifically states that descendants with the HRH title and Prince or Princess continue to use the surname Windsor rather than Mountbatten-Windsor, in line with the declaration in Royal Council by George V that all of the male line would bear the name Windsor.
To quote the cited website - a cache of the original -
It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.
My edit was reverted with the comment that "the practical effect of the above is for all descendants of the Queen to carry the name Mountbatten-Windsor".
I would dispute this, as it is direct contradiction to the declaration in Royal Privy Council.
I have not restored my edit, as I don't want to start an edit war, but consider the authoritative basis for my edit to be unequivocal, and the reversion to be in error.
Can anyone else comment either way?
Philculmer ( talk) 08:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, and please forgive me for misquoting: that was an unintentional error, and I apologise. My point, however, is that the declaration in Privy Council explicitly excludes princes and princesses with the Royal Highness title from the use of of the Mountbatten-Windsor surname. The commentary on it, as you point out, contradicts this, giving the source an equivocality which I had missed, but the order itself makes a specific exception. I will see if there is another authoritative source to resolve this discrepancy. Philculmer ( talk) 08:34, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Does Charles really have no post-nominals after his name? His son has four. Martinevans123 ( talk) 09:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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facebook,twitter,amazon,google all punished yesterday for censorship used as a threat to national security. So do yourself a favour now before i report your platform to ag barrs censor report app for not informing the world and more importantly Englands people that we have a new pure bloodline king? 2A02:C7F:7E4C:A00:7CC5:9E67:890B:D584 ( talk) 18:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please remove this:
Two days later, Charles stated in a video that he would continue to practice isolation and social distance.
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Two days later, Charles stated in a video that he would continue to practice isolation and social distancing.
One doesn't "practice social distance". 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:9064:7BC7:9C6A:DB50 ( talk) 01:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I tried to add (Charles, Tywysog Cymru) next to his name, but was reverted due to this reason: "That has very little to do with him personally. It belongs in Prince of Wales." But why not add a Welsh translation?, His title reflects Wales and the native language of Wales is Cymraeg (Welsh), I see no reason why he should reflect that language too?, to revert due to the title having "very little to do with him personally" is the most confusing this Iv'e heard someone say, the title is very much a part of his personal life, the title (in both Welsh and English) is as important as each other, he was made a prince in Caernarfon, North Wales, he learnt to speak the Welsh language and his identity very much reflects his position of being a Welsh prince, if he were not personally affiliated with the Welsh population then I'm pretty sure that the Welsh population would have rebelled against him years ago, he's not the prince of Britain, he's not the prince of England, he is the prince of Wales. Hogyncymru ( talk) 22:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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Change Camilla Parker Bowles to Camilla Shand in Charles' listed spouses at the top right of the page. Lady Diana Spencer is referred to by her maiden name, so to be consistent so should Camilla. 2001:8003:DDDC:BE00:ED34:A344:E300:2D6 ( talk) 09:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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Correct Prince Charles' full name to remove Mountbatten-Windsor. Per the 1960's letters patent issued by The Queen, he does not need to use it as he is styled as a HRH Prince.
Please see a copy of the 1960's Letters Patent here: http://cuhags.soc.srcf.net/info/proclp-w.html Yellowwallpaper3 ( talk) 22:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
While Mountbatten-Windsor is surname that can be used when it is necessary they don’t use that everyday or built career around that name. There was no surname on his birth certificate for example. And I checked other European royal houses in Wikipedia they did not add family name either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu ( talk • contribs) 11:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I was just reading through this article and I noticed that its lead image isn't really very good. His Royal Highness appears to be unusually red in the face (almost as if it has been airbrushed), with an unusual expression on his face (so perhaps not representative, under MOS:LEADIMAGE) and it generally doesn't really seem like a nice, professional-looking picture that befits the future King (although I don't think that there isn't any policy about this and I intend no offence to the photographer, it seems like common sense that we should use nice pictures, so long as they are representative, where possible). HRH is also not really facing the camera. I'm not an expert in this area, but I found this picture on Flickr. It seems like a generally better picture to use, though it is from 2012, but HRH's appearance hasn't really changed since then (I think that there is a policy about this, but I can't seem to find it). What are people's thoughts on this? FollowTheTortoise ( talk) 17:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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The sentence about Charles becoming Duke of Edinburgh should be removed. It is factually incorrect (Prince Edward will inherit the title once Charles is king) and the reference cited doesn’t even support it. 80.5.226.153 ( talk) 16:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
"The Duke of Edinburgh was granted the style and title of Royal Highness on 19 November 1947; on the next day, 20 November, he was created Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich, of Greenwich in the County of London. These peerages are hereditary and on the death of His Royal Highness have passed to his eldest son, HRH The Prince of Wales."
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Please check your information. Charles is not the Duke of Edinburgh. That title goes to his brother Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex. 2001:8004:27D0:3625:3536:6A87:9DB2:B3D6 ( talk) 11:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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Currently this article shows birth name = Prince Charles of Edinburgh. This is incorrect, He was born as just Prince Charles, he has only just recently gained his Edinburgh titles after the death of HRH Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh on April 9th. Therefore, the birth name needs to be change to Prince Charles. "of Edinburgh" needs to be removed. Hngunn ( talk) 22:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
(First off, don't worry! She's still alive.) Okay, here goes: when the Queen dies and Charles (presumably) becomes King of the United Kingdom – what will we rename this page? I know it's not super important right now, but it's good to get ahead of things and have plans in place. Wikipedians are notorious for being quick to update information, so it's near-certain that whenever Elizabeth II passes (whether that's a month, a year, or a decade from now) there'll be an absurd scramble of users trying to figure out what the heck to do, and a wave of editors trying to figure out what on earth the title of this page would be. It's best to discuss and establish a consensus ahead of time so we're not caught in a chaotic frenzy when that date inevitably occurs (I mean, if it ever does, given how long the Queen has survived thus far).
Also, I'm referring to the interim period of time following the Queen's death BUT BEFORE Charles's regnal name is announced. Obviously when his official regnal name is announced, we'd move the page to his official regnal name. (To be fair, he could announce his regnal name within minutes of the Queen's death. Obviously, we haven't dealt with this before, so it's hard to say exactly what will happen and when. No clue — it could honestly be minutes, hours, days, or longer between the Queen's passing and any sort of regnal name announcement, and a second is an eternity for many a Wikipedian.)
It wouldn't be wise to name this page to "Charles III of the United Kingdom" before a regnal name is announced — it's not a given that he'll go by "Charles III". He could very easily go by "George VII" (and, given rumors, there's a solid chance he might end up doing so). I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure he ceases to be Prince of Wales when he becomes King, so it wouldn't make sense to keep this page at "Charles, Prince of Wales" when news breaks of the Queen's death. So when that moment eventually happens, what will we name this page? Would it make sense to name the page " Charles of the United Kingdom" when it happens? It's a term that already redirects here, given that the past ones were Kings before it was "the United Kingdom". Thoughts? Paintspot Infez ( talk) 03:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Charles III (17 September 879 – 7 October 929), called the Simple or the Straightforward (from the Latin Carolus Simplex),[a] was the king of West Francia from 898 until 922 and the king of Lotharingia from 911 until 919–23. He was a member of the Carolingian dynasty. Sampajanna ( talk) 08:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I see that it is being said in the article that Prince Charles will inherit the title Duke of Edinburgh. It should be noted that it is being widely reported that the title will be given to Prince Edward. See, for example, here and here. I think that, while it may be that Charles inherits the title, it is not a foregone conclusion.-- ServeDotty ( talk) 12:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Sources for the title change: the grant of the titles to Phil the Greek, to heirs male; today's College of Arms notice that the titles are hereditary. Marnanel ( talk) 13:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
One of the motivations for suggesting that Prince Edward might become Duke of Edinburgh (which would be a new creation, rather than inheriting his father's title) seems to have been to give the Queen's third son a Scottish title, something which he did not receive at the time of his marriage (unlike, say, Prince Andrew who was made Earl of Inverness as well as Duke of York). The 'need' for such a move is now largely moot, Edward having been granted the title Earl of Forfar as a 55th birthday present in 2019. Forfariano ( talk) 15:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
From The Telegraph just now: "The title of the Duke of Edinburgh will eventually be inherited by Prince Philip's youngest son, Prince Edward. Under plans first announced in 1999, Edward will succeed his father in the Dukedom with the blessing of Prince Philip and the Queen." [1] Sampajanna ( talk) 16:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
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Greetings Wikipedians! The first paragraph in the section Prince of Wales says "Charles accepted the decision, if not without some regret..." The quote given here does not support feelings of regret. That is presumably someone's interpretation. In my humble opinion, it's not our role as editors to interpret what a public figure's feelings are, at least in the case of a living person, where we have to be especially careful to walk the line. I have deleted that phrase, but would be glad to reinstate it if someone can find a public statement to support it. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 21:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, Charles and Diana's 1983 tour of Australia is quite famous and notable, so there should be a separate article covering the tour. Peter Ormond 💬 16:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
If we're having his 'surname' Mountbatten-Windsor put in note-form, in his infobox, just like in the infoboxes of his siblings. Then why aren't we doing the same at his mother's infobox, concerning Windsor? GoodDay ( talk) 20:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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The surname of Camilla is Shand, Parker Bowl was of her first husband.
An an RFC on this matter, is being held. GoodDay ( talk) 02:34, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Charles has been invested as Prince of Wales in 1969, not in 1958. He would have been 10 at that time. Reference [3] is correct. 31.165.152.88 ( talk) 22:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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I'm starting to question whether the information added on Savile to this page should actually be removed or not, as in its current form it appears to be WP:UNDUE (note that it was me who added it to the page originally on 14 March 2021). Per various sources, Charles and many other public figures including Margaret Thatcher had no knowledge on Savile's private life. Not to mention that it was Thatcher who pressed for a knighthood to be bestowed upon him and invited him to spend 11 consecutive New Year's Eves at Chequers with her and her family (see Jimmy Savile#Public image and friendships for more information). Then why is it that none of this is covered in her page or in the page of any other public figures that he befriended but we have it here? And reflecting on it now, I guess it's rather unfair, especially considering the fact that Savile was getting telegrams from and was in contact with other members of the royal family as well. Do we have a similar section on the page of every public figure that he was corresponding with, including Prince Philip and Diana? The answer appears to be a 'no'. I think the original addition by me was unnecessary and the coverage on Savile's own page should be enough. Keivan.f Talk 23:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Only the descendants of Elizabeth II who don’t use HRH have the surname Mountbatten-Windsor, he does not use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.192.18 ( talk) 23:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
I had always assumed that Charles was English. Is this not the case, because his father was Greek? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I think it's important to make a distinction in the intro between historical and native holders of the title "Prince of Wales" and the modern non-native use of the title as part of the British monarchy. As such I would suggest simply including the word "non-native" later in the intro paragraph. Please and kindly state an opinion and form a consensus. Thanks. Titus Gold ( talk) 13:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I changed the picture of him to the one of him giving the speech from the throne as the quasi-regent. It is much better and more recent than the one from 8 years ago.
Another editor said that this picture is unusual. That it is, but then it will be replaced by a formal portrait of him as king when the sad day comes (I'm talking about his mother, of course). it also reflects his change in status. Notwisconsin ( talk) 14:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
When the old Queen dies, we should revert to the famous coronation portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notwisconsin ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Should it be added somewhere that an Australian man of that name has been legally claiming for years that he is the son of Charles and Camilla? Obviously it is 99% false but he is extremely convinced of it and has been swabbing the courts and the royal for years to obtain the DNA. 93.67.196.108 ( talk) 00:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
However, IP, no, because that's not true. It has been disproved, quite simply, rational truth does not sell tabloids and that man clearly has some problems. This is a good summary https://www.reddit.com/user/Itsjustanopinionm8/comments/qn8b6e/the_false_prince_from_down_under/ Sira Aspera ( talk) 19:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Following the car crash in 1997 2600:1004:B005:8670:417A:8A64:8C3A:4D1 ( talk) 08:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Don't know what you mean about this "heir apparent" business 103.93.115.18 ( talk) 03:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a bit of problem, here, now: a king is allowed to choose his regal appellation freely, and Charles, the Prince of Wales hasn't yet divulged his choice. As such, it's premature to call him King Charles III. It's probably going to be his appellation, but for all we know, he might very well, even by custom, choose to go by one of his other names. He might even want to do so, to break the connection with Charles I and II. Especially the latter, given his well-known debauchery.
Although we won't have to wait long (likely tomorrow) to find out, as UK media is reporting it may be premature to call him Charles III today (Sept. 8) as it is his right to choose another name when he ascends on the 9th. He could choose George, Philip or even Arthur. Most likely it'll be Charles III, but I've seen others cases where Wikipedia has paused on naming somebody until it's official. 23skidoo ( talk) 21:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please can you amend King Charles’ “spouse” from Camilla Parker Bowles to “Camilla, Queen Consort”. She has not been “Parker Bowles” in years and it’s not correct. 5.151.76.251 ( talk) 21:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
I don't know what the custom in the UK is or whether Wikipedia has a consensus on this question: What is the proper usage for photographs and the like from before his accession as King? That is, at various times today the infobox photo has shown Charles in 2021 or 2017. Obviously there are probably no public photos (yet) of him since he became King, and I certainly see no problem with continuing to use older images in the future. My concern is not with the images themselves; rather, I'm wondering what the correct way to refer to him in connection with older images is. That is, consider the caption "Charles III in 2021" (last year). He wasn't King yet and I wonder whether the more proper usage there would be simply "Charles in 2021" (or something similar), although of course I also understand the desire to show respect. 1995hoo ( talk) 20:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Charles is not the King of Canada 2600:1700:57AC:2830:612C:FDA2:5F35:E3A3 ( talk) 19:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Yes, he is.
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He most certainly is King of Canada. Our monarchy is considered separate from that of the UK, but when Elizabeth died, it passed to Charles. (Though it is premature to call him Charles III as I believe his ascension isn't offiicial until tomorrow, plus he may choose to use a different name, which is his prerogative.) If the OP is indicating that Canada has now become an American-style republic, this may be in the future, but likely not until a referendum indicates public support for such a thing because it would require millions of dollars in expenses to overhaul our governmental system and also the drafting of a new Constitution and that was a HUGE headache last time around.
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The anon commenting may also be a far right adherent. There is currently a woman touring the country as the self proclaimed Queen of Canada. Her followers, basically Canada's version of QAnon, claim to believe her nonsense. Whatever the case, this matter is moot, the Queen or King of Canada is represented by a local Governor General as head of state, but indeed Charles is now King here. -- Zanimum ( talk) 22:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Do we know for certain that he will be King Charles III, I think I remember hearing somewhere that he may choose King George VII. He can take anyone of his names. Rlt152152 ( talk) 19:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Is Charles the king of 14 commonwealth realms? This article says that some of those countries only recognize the queen as the head of the state (for example Jamaica). Uwsi ( talk) 19:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
At least the article is well curated. Thanks to all those who have contributed and stewarded the article. Very often a figure is suddenly thrust into the limelight and their Wikipedia page is a total mess. All the work is appreciated. Anna ( talk) 19:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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@ Dgreaser: Could you please explain why (1) you made this edit here and (2) why coronation is required for someone to be a monarch? — B. L. I. R. 19:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
King Charles automatically became king under a common law rule
Rex nunquam moritur’, which translates as ‘The King never dies
Source https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1666689/Prince-Charles-King-now-crowned-coronation/amp
The King is dead, long live the king
source https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rKAKXWXIa9gC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=uk+the+king+is+dead,+long+live+the+king+academic&source=bl&ots=lU15D89Xq_&sig=ACfU3U2AK7GqHikvA-ozzVVq4wvkxQXfTA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6qoOSwYf6AhW1SkEAHfwiDUE4MhDoAXoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=uk%20the%20king%20is%20dead%2C%20long%20live%20the%20king%20academic&f=false ChefBear01 ( talk) 10:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
We seem to be getting several hatnotes being added, see here. The one on the engineer I've deleted twice. WP:1HAT tells us to try to stick to one hatnote. I don't think the engineer, who averages nine hits a day, is important enough to disambiguate in this article. Wehwalt ( talk) 19:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Can we change the title from Charles III to King Chares III? Just "Charles III" will cause a bit of confusion. HistoryFanOfItAll1999 ( talk) 19:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
To change name too "King Charles III"???? HistoryFanOfItAll1999 ( talk) 19:12, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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change "prince Charles to king Charles KD burr ( talk) 19:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Do the old "Charles Prince of Wales" links need to be updated to Charles III? Ebbedlila ( talk) 18:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The move to Charles III was already challenged, it should go through a move request at this point, not simply revert-warred back in place. nableezy - 18:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Wow, given the news coverage today. One would've thought this Charles III, would've been the most recognised by that name. GoodDay ( talk) 22:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
He has been referred to as King by Buckingham Palace and The Prime Minister, however it is not officiated until his Coronation which will take place whenever it is planned to do so.
So maybe it was a bit rushed to rename the article so rapidly?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/09/08/when-queen-elizabeth-dies-charles-will-become-king---heres-whos-next-in-line-of-british-succession/ AF1990 ( talk) 18:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Also masses of Wikipedia editing to come, in particular changing "Her Majesty's [e.g. Stationery Office]". I did start to do this many years ago, changing "Her Majesty's Stationery Office" to something like "His/Her Majesty's Stationery Office", but got reverted. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 18:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Edinburgh, Duke of Rothesay, even Prince of Wales: did he automatically cease to hold these titles? The article has been edited putting 8 September 2022 as the end date, but this may be just people making assumptions. And William does not, I believe, automatically become Prince of Wales. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 18:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Aside from the Duke of Edinburgh, every other role is vacant until granted. Ebbedlila ( talk) 18:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The naming consistency is broken as Charles usurps the throne. We shall tweak the name to make consistant. ElusiveTaker ( talk) 18:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
title announced and verified by the British Prime Minister. 50.102.147.20 ( talk) 18:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Support moving the page since the PM has announced as such cookie monster 755 18:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Clarence House has confirmed Charles III, according to the BBC. -- 84.65.68.38 ( talk) 18:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Also announced by the Palace that that is the name he will use.
Is he definitely going to use "Charles III"? 197.87.143.28 ( talk) 18:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
No, no official announcement has been made. The BBC doesn’t have the power to decide. Eccekevin ( talk) 18:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
(ec*lots) Yes, it'd been "pre-announced" by the PM, then officially announced from his own press office, both reported by the BBC. Unless he changes his mind before it's officially-official from the Accession Council, but that's very unlikely, and what edit buttons are for. 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Namely Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu. Mike Rohsopht ( talk) 18:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Since I live in the UK, I should be able to edit. I would like to add, 'Charles also inherited the title of King of the United Kingdom after the death of his mother on 8th September 2022, Elizabeth II.' TheEditor2024 ( talk) 17:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
But Charles inherited other titles as well, such as King of Canada, Australia, Jamaica, etc etc, we canno just write King of UK GucciNuzayer ( talk) 03:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Charles the 3rd should not be on this page. He has not officially chosen his name yet. It's a bit premature. 166.182.250.222 ( talk) 17:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Should wait for official proclamation, and revert to Charles for now. Eccekevin ( talk) 18:20, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Mmm... until the officialization we might not put Charles III a his regal name 18:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The BBC has confirmed he will be known as Charles III.
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Would just like to point out that the new King is not 'of England', as the caption under the thumbnail states 80.43.45.105 ( talk) 18:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
He won't officially be Charles III until he declares his name before the Accession Council in a few days. Until then, he is officially Charles, King of ......
I agree. Some may argue that if Charles is taken as the regnal name it would be Charles iv of Scotland (iii for non-Jacobites) and various others for different factions in Scotland, Ireland.
This page is about to get a lot of action as death of EII confirmed. Reliable sources already using "king" as is custom. Cameron Scott ( talk) Cameron Scott ( talk) 17:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
BBC confirmed he’s Charles III https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59135132 GamerKlim9716 ( talk) 19:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please change name Charles, Prince of Wales to Charles III of United Kingdom. 2A00:23C4:7A88:4C00:50C1:7DC9:9DCA:9C04 ( talk) 22:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
...he took command of the coastal minehunter HMS Bronington for his last ten months of active service in the navy.
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Per the recommendation of the closer of the previous Rfc.
How should Charles be defined in the lead? Here are the final options.
GoodDay ( talk) 13:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Even if how he is most often defined were supported by a reliable source (which it is not), it wouldn't, nor shouldn't, subdue the fact, acknowledged by supporters of options 1 and 2, that he is heir in countries other than the UK. There are different ways to inform readers of Charles' country of origin, if such information is necessary for the lede. -- ₪ MIESIANIACAL 20:47, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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Change Prince Henry of Wales to Prince Harry of Wales, under issue Aîrborne ( talk) 08:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
This article could mention that in April 2018, Queen Elizabeth II said she wanted Prince Charles to succeed her as head of the Commonwealth. Vorbee ( talk) 17:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Re [3], no reliable source says that Antony Armstrong-Jones was a member of the royal family, therefore he was not a member of the royal family. According to Buckingham Palace, he was "a Peer of the Realm and the husband of a member of the Royal Family". [1] Firebrace ( talk) 14:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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My contribution was removed by User:Melcous. After editing and reviewing my edits keep being removed also by User:Absolutelypuremilk and User:Noq. Can we please discuss this? Please approach with good faith as my contributions definitely are. Danainlondon ( talk) 14:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Danainlondon: - your last edit violates the WP:3RR rule - please self-revert and wait for consensus to be reached. You reverted 3 times before coming here and then reverted a fourth time before consensus was reached - this is not following WP:BRD. The current sponsors name is not used in the domain name for the team. Pushing your employers name is not necessary (unless that is your goal).
There appears to be very little coverage about the Welsh team on google. And that is as likely to either omit the sponsors name or use a previous sponsor. noq ( talk) 17:05, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Information to be added or removed: To the Sports section under Hobbies and personal interests please add – Charles currently acts as the Patron for the Centtrip Wales Polo Team.
Explanation of issue: The sentences give the impression that Charles is no longer involved in polo, however this is false.
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the article's lead is too short, i just added important things which he has done over the course of the years, which has been much publicised and its impact, you can't just remove it because you don't like it or better you feel its not important, discuss it first, all i wrote was important, i see no reason why it shouldn't be in the lead, discuss before making your unnecessary edit, i don't want to start another edit conflict with you, as an administrator, you should know better, perhaps we need another one to solve this discussion for us. Monkelese ( talk) 06:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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victi = victims ? 2605:E000:9149:8300:F1FB:D55A:D6E9:F38E ( talk) 13:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Should the lede mention that Charles is the heir apparent to the thrones of all the Commonwealth Realms, not just that of Britain? Compare the lede of Elizabeth_II. Grover cleveland ( talk) 20:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Do any articles, including the ones below, have any merit or are they just a tactic to sell more newspapers?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1210550/prince-charles-title-queen-step-down-18-months-retire-prince-regent-royal-family-latest "The only reason a regency would ever be contemplated is if she became seriously ill, either mentally or physically," Royal Author Phil Dampier .... The Regency Act 1937 made way for a regent to step in should a monarch become incapacitated.
https://nationalpost.com/news/the-shadow-king-royal-conspiracy-theory-that-the-queen-will-hand-reins-to-charles-is-plausible-but-unlikely Royal conspiracy theory that the Queen will hand reins to Charles is plausible, but unlikely
Also see Regency Acts Peter K Burian ( talk) 15:22, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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Change "He has been Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay since 1952, and he is the oldest and longest-serving heir apparent in British history" to "He has been Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay since 1952, and he is the longest-serving heir apparent in British history."
Sophia of Hanover was heir to the English throne from 1702 at the age of 71/72. By her death at the age of 83,in 1714, she was heir to the British throne. Charles might be the oldest Prince of Wales but he is not the oldest heir apparent/presumptive.
Now, if there is some definite difference between heir presumptive and heir apparent, I might be incorrect. 137.191.230.202 ( talk) 12:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I note the deletion of my additions concerning HRH's recent visits to Jerusalem and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem
User;Clive sweeting 7February 2020 and a further deletion re Charles' Newman speech by the same person (User:Clive sweeting 27 February 2020)
Openly supports sport hunting to destroy the environment for fun. Please remove this non-sense lying. That is like defending dumping toxic waste in the ocean as environmentalism. Traditional toxic waste dumping from 300 years ago, to give it emotional appeal to conservatives of course. Just outright lying.
For those with no education: wildlife are part of the environment and cannot be mindlessly destroyed if you are an environmentalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.214.107 ( talk) 18:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Imnotverycreaatiivee: @ Sessefres: @ Netha Hussain: Will someone help with the coronavirus section I started? I don't know if the section is in the right place, I'm almost certain that the number on the tweet citation is wrong (I don't use Twitter), and the citation doesn't look right to me - shouldn't it look like the rest? Could someone please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Souniel Yadav ( talk • contribs) 08:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
DrKay, you reverted my edit here. Please let me know why it is unacceptable.— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 08:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
I edited the listed surname, as the cited page on the Royal Family website specifically states that descendants with the HRH title and Prince or Princess continue to use the surname Windsor rather than Mountbatten-Windsor, in line with the declaration in Royal Council by George V that all of the male line would bear the name Windsor.
To quote the cited website - a cache of the original -
It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, other than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.
My edit was reverted with the comment that "the practical effect of the above is for all descendants of the Queen to carry the name Mountbatten-Windsor".
I would dispute this, as it is direct contradiction to the declaration in Royal Privy Council.
I have not restored my edit, as I don't want to start an edit war, but consider the authoritative basis for my edit to be unequivocal, and the reversion to be in error.
Can anyone else comment either way?
Philculmer ( talk) 08:15, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, and please forgive me for misquoting: that was an unintentional error, and I apologise. My point, however, is that the declaration in Privy Council explicitly excludes princes and princesses with the Royal Highness title from the use of of the Mountbatten-Windsor surname. The commentary on it, as you point out, contradicts this, giving the source an equivocality which I had missed, but the order itself makes a specific exception. I will see if there is another authoritative source to resolve this discrepancy. Philculmer ( talk) 08:34, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Does Charles really have no post-nominals after his name? His son has four. Martinevans123 ( talk) 09:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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facebook,twitter,amazon,google all punished yesterday for censorship used as a threat to national security. So do yourself a favour now before i report your platform to ag barrs censor report app for not informing the world and more importantly Englands people that we have a new pure bloodline king? 2A02:C7F:7E4C:A00:7CC5:9E67:890B:D584 ( talk) 18:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please remove this:
Two days later, Charles stated in a video that he would continue to practice isolation and social distance.
and add this:
Two days later, Charles stated in a video that he would continue to practice isolation and social distancing.
One doesn't "practice social distance". 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:9064:7BC7:9C6A:DB50 ( talk) 01:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I tried to add (Charles, Tywysog Cymru) next to his name, but was reverted due to this reason: "That has very little to do with him personally. It belongs in Prince of Wales." But why not add a Welsh translation?, His title reflects Wales and the native language of Wales is Cymraeg (Welsh), I see no reason why he should reflect that language too?, to revert due to the title having "very little to do with him personally" is the most confusing this Iv'e heard someone say, the title is very much a part of his personal life, the title (in both Welsh and English) is as important as each other, he was made a prince in Caernarfon, North Wales, he learnt to speak the Welsh language and his identity very much reflects his position of being a Welsh prince, if he were not personally affiliated with the Welsh population then I'm pretty sure that the Welsh population would have rebelled against him years ago, he's not the prince of Britain, he's not the prince of England, he is the prince of Wales. Hogyncymru ( talk) 22:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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Change Camilla Parker Bowles to Camilla Shand in Charles' listed spouses at the top right of the page. Lady Diana Spencer is referred to by her maiden name, so to be consistent so should Camilla. 2001:8003:DDDC:BE00:ED34:A344:E300:2D6 ( talk) 09:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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Correct Prince Charles' full name to remove Mountbatten-Windsor. Per the 1960's letters patent issued by The Queen, he does not need to use it as he is styled as a HRH Prince.
Please see a copy of the 1960's Letters Patent here: http://cuhags.soc.srcf.net/info/proclp-w.html Yellowwallpaper3 ( talk) 22:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
While Mountbatten-Windsor is surname that can be used when it is necessary they don’t use that everyday or built career around that name. There was no surname on his birth certificate for example. And I checked other European royal houses in Wikipedia they did not add family name either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu ( talk • contribs) 11:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I was just reading through this article and I noticed that its lead image isn't really very good. His Royal Highness appears to be unusually red in the face (almost as if it has been airbrushed), with an unusual expression on his face (so perhaps not representative, under MOS:LEADIMAGE) and it generally doesn't really seem like a nice, professional-looking picture that befits the future King (although I don't think that there isn't any policy about this and I intend no offence to the photographer, it seems like common sense that we should use nice pictures, so long as they are representative, where possible). HRH is also not really facing the camera. I'm not an expert in this area, but I found this picture on Flickr. It seems like a generally better picture to use, though it is from 2012, but HRH's appearance hasn't really changed since then (I think that there is a policy about this, but I can't seem to find it). What are people's thoughts on this? FollowTheTortoise ( talk) 17:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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The sentence about Charles becoming Duke of Edinburgh should be removed. It is factually incorrect (Prince Edward will inherit the title once Charles is king) and the reference cited doesn’t even support it. 80.5.226.153 ( talk) 16:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
"The Duke of Edinburgh was granted the style and title of Royal Highness on 19 November 1947; on the next day, 20 November, he was created Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich, of Greenwich in the County of London. These peerages are hereditary and on the death of His Royal Highness have passed to his eldest son, HRH The Prince of Wales."
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Please check your information. Charles is not the Duke of Edinburgh. That title goes to his brother Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex. 2001:8004:27D0:3625:3536:6A87:9DB2:B3D6 ( talk) 11:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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Currently this article shows birth name = Prince Charles of Edinburgh. This is incorrect, He was born as just Prince Charles, he has only just recently gained his Edinburgh titles after the death of HRH Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh on April 9th. Therefore, the birth name needs to be change to Prince Charles. "of Edinburgh" needs to be removed. Hngunn ( talk) 22:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
(First off, don't worry! She's still alive.) Okay, here goes: when the Queen dies and Charles (presumably) becomes King of the United Kingdom – what will we rename this page? I know it's not super important right now, but it's good to get ahead of things and have plans in place. Wikipedians are notorious for being quick to update information, so it's near-certain that whenever Elizabeth II passes (whether that's a month, a year, or a decade from now) there'll be an absurd scramble of users trying to figure out what the heck to do, and a wave of editors trying to figure out what on earth the title of this page would be. It's best to discuss and establish a consensus ahead of time so we're not caught in a chaotic frenzy when that date inevitably occurs (I mean, if it ever does, given how long the Queen has survived thus far).
Also, I'm referring to the interim period of time following the Queen's death BUT BEFORE Charles's regnal name is announced. Obviously when his official regnal name is announced, we'd move the page to his official regnal name. (To be fair, he could announce his regnal name within minutes of the Queen's death. Obviously, we haven't dealt with this before, so it's hard to say exactly what will happen and when. No clue — it could honestly be minutes, hours, days, or longer between the Queen's passing and any sort of regnal name announcement, and a second is an eternity for many a Wikipedian.)
It wouldn't be wise to name this page to "Charles III of the United Kingdom" before a regnal name is announced — it's not a given that he'll go by "Charles III". He could very easily go by "George VII" (and, given rumors, there's a solid chance he might end up doing so). I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure he ceases to be Prince of Wales when he becomes King, so it wouldn't make sense to keep this page at "Charles, Prince of Wales" when news breaks of the Queen's death. So when that moment eventually happens, what will we name this page? Would it make sense to name the page " Charles of the United Kingdom" when it happens? It's a term that already redirects here, given that the past ones were Kings before it was "the United Kingdom". Thoughts? Paintspot Infez ( talk) 03:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Charles III (17 September 879 – 7 October 929), called the Simple or the Straightforward (from the Latin Carolus Simplex),[a] was the king of West Francia from 898 until 922 and the king of Lotharingia from 911 until 919–23. He was a member of the Carolingian dynasty. Sampajanna ( talk) 08:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I see that it is being said in the article that Prince Charles will inherit the title Duke of Edinburgh. It should be noted that it is being widely reported that the title will be given to Prince Edward. See, for example, here and here. I think that, while it may be that Charles inherits the title, it is not a foregone conclusion.-- ServeDotty ( talk) 12:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Sources for the title change: the grant of the titles to Phil the Greek, to heirs male; today's College of Arms notice that the titles are hereditary. Marnanel ( talk) 13:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
One of the motivations for suggesting that Prince Edward might become Duke of Edinburgh (which would be a new creation, rather than inheriting his father's title) seems to have been to give the Queen's third son a Scottish title, something which he did not receive at the time of his marriage (unlike, say, Prince Andrew who was made Earl of Inverness as well as Duke of York). The 'need' for such a move is now largely moot, Edward having been granted the title Earl of Forfar as a 55th birthday present in 2019. Forfariano ( talk) 15:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
From The Telegraph just now: "The title of the Duke of Edinburgh will eventually be inherited by Prince Philip's youngest son, Prince Edward. Under plans first announced in 1999, Edward will succeed his father in the Dukedom with the blessing of Prince Philip and the Queen." [1] Sampajanna ( talk) 16:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
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Greetings Wikipedians! The first paragraph in the section Prince of Wales says "Charles accepted the decision, if not without some regret..." The quote given here does not support feelings of regret. That is presumably someone's interpretation. In my humble opinion, it's not our role as editors to interpret what a public figure's feelings are, at least in the case of a living person, where we have to be especially careful to walk the line. I have deleted that phrase, but would be glad to reinstate it if someone can find a public statement to support it. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 ( talk) 21:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion, Charles and Diana's 1983 tour of Australia is quite famous and notable, so there should be a separate article covering the tour. Peter Ormond 💬 16:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
If we're having his 'surname' Mountbatten-Windsor put in note-form, in his infobox, just like in the infoboxes of his siblings. Then why aren't we doing the same at his mother's infobox, concerning Windsor? GoodDay ( talk) 20:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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The surname of Camilla is Shand, Parker Bowl was of her first husband.
An an RFC on this matter, is being held. GoodDay ( talk) 02:34, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Charles has been invested as Prince of Wales in 1969, not in 1958. He would have been 10 at that time. Reference [3] is correct. 31.165.152.88 ( talk) 22:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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I'm starting to question whether the information added on Savile to this page should actually be removed or not, as in its current form it appears to be WP:UNDUE (note that it was me who added it to the page originally on 14 March 2021). Per various sources, Charles and many other public figures including Margaret Thatcher had no knowledge on Savile's private life. Not to mention that it was Thatcher who pressed for a knighthood to be bestowed upon him and invited him to spend 11 consecutive New Year's Eves at Chequers with her and her family (see Jimmy Savile#Public image and friendships for more information). Then why is it that none of this is covered in her page or in the page of any other public figures that he befriended but we have it here? And reflecting on it now, I guess it's rather unfair, especially considering the fact that Savile was getting telegrams from and was in contact with other members of the royal family as well. Do we have a similar section on the page of every public figure that he was corresponding with, including Prince Philip and Diana? The answer appears to be a 'no'. I think the original addition by me was unnecessary and the coverage on Savile's own page should be enough. Keivan.f Talk 23:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Only the descendants of Elizabeth II who don’t use HRH have the surname Mountbatten-Windsor, he does not use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.192.18 ( talk) 23:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
I had always assumed that Charles was English. Is this not the case, because his father was Greek? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I think it's important to make a distinction in the intro between historical and native holders of the title "Prince of Wales" and the modern non-native use of the title as part of the British monarchy. As such I would suggest simply including the word "non-native" later in the intro paragraph. Please and kindly state an opinion and form a consensus. Thanks. Titus Gold ( talk) 13:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I changed the picture of him to the one of him giving the speech from the throne as the quasi-regent. It is much better and more recent than the one from 8 years ago.
Another editor said that this picture is unusual. That it is, but then it will be replaced by a formal portrait of him as king when the sad day comes (I'm talking about his mother, of course). it also reflects his change in status. Notwisconsin ( talk) 14:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
When the old Queen dies, we should revert to the famous coronation portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notwisconsin ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Should it be added somewhere that an Australian man of that name has been legally claiming for years that he is the son of Charles and Camilla? Obviously it is 99% false but he is extremely convinced of it and has been swabbing the courts and the royal for years to obtain the DNA. 93.67.196.108 ( talk) 00:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
However, IP, no, because that's not true. It has been disproved, quite simply, rational truth does not sell tabloids and that man clearly has some problems. This is a good summary https://www.reddit.com/user/Itsjustanopinionm8/comments/qn8b6e/the_false_prince_from_down_under/ Sira Aspera ( talk) 19:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Following the car crash in 1997 2600:1004:B005:8670:417A:8A64:8C3A:4D1 ( talk) 08:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Don't know what you mean about this "heir apparent" business 103.93.115.18 ( talk) 03:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a bit of problem, here, now: a king is allowed to choose his regal appellation freely, and Charles, the Prince of Wales hasn't yet divulged his choice. As such, it's premature to call him King Charles III. It's probably going to be his appellation, but for all we know, he might very well, even by custom, choose to go by one of his other names. He might even want to do so, to break the connection with Charles I and II. Especially the latter, given his well-known debauchery.
Although we won't have to wait long (likely tomorrow) to find out, as UK media is reporting it may be premature to call him Charles III today (Sept. 8) as it is his right to choose another name when he ascends on the 9th. He could choose George, Philip or even Arthur. Most likely it'll be Charles III, but I've seen others cases where Wikipedia has paused on naming somebody until it's official. 23skidoo ( talk) 21:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please can you amend King Charles’ “spouse” from Camilla Parker Bowles to “Camilla, Queen Consort”. She has not been “Parker Bowles” in years and it’s not correct. 5.151.76.251 ( talk) 21:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
I don't know what the custom in the UK is or whether Wikipedia has a consensus on this question: What is the proper usage for photographs and the like from before his accession as King? That is, at various times today the infobox photo has shown Charles in 2021 or 2017. Obviously there are probably no public photos (yet) of him since he became King, and I certainly see no problem with continuing to use older images in the future. My concern is not with the images themselves; rather, I'm wondering what the correct way to refer to him in connection with older images is. That is, consider the caption "Charles III in 2021" (last year). He wasn't King yet and I wonder whether the more proper usage there would be simply "Charles in 2021" (or something similar), although of course I also understand the desire to show respect. 1995hoo ( talk) 20:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Charles is not the King of Canada 2600:1700:57AC:2830:612C:FDA2:5F35:E3A3 ( talk) 19:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Yes, he is.
Vince1073 (
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He most certainly is King of Canada. Our monarchy is considered separate from that of the UK, but when Elizabeth died, it passed to Charles. (Though it is premature to call him Charles III as I believe his ascension isn't offiicial until tomorrow, plus he may choose to use a different name, which is his prerogative.) If the OP is indicating that Canada has now become an American-style republic, this may be in the future, but likely not until a referendum indicates public support for such a thing because it would require millions of dollars in expenses to overhaul our governmental system and also the drafting of a new Constitution and that was a HUGE headache last time around.
23skidoo (
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21:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The anon commenting may also be a far right adherent. There is currently a woman touring the country as the self proclaimed Queen of Canada. Her followers, basically Canada's version of QAnon, claim to believe her nonsense. Whatever the case, this matter is moot, the Queen or King of Canada is represented by a local Governor General as head of state, but indeed Charles is now King here. -- Zanimum ( talk) 22:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Do we know for certain that he will be King Charles III, I think I remember hearing somewhere that he may choose King George VII. He can take anyone of his names. Rlt152152 ( talk) 19:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Is Charles the king of 14 commonwealth realms? This article says that some of those countries only recognize the queen as the head of the state (for example Jamaica). Uwsi ( talk) 19:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
At least the article is well curated. Thanks to all those who have contributed and stewarded the article. Very often a figure is suddenly thrust into the limelight and their Wikipedia page is a total mess. All the work is appreciated. Anna ( talk) 19:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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@ Dgreaser: Could you please explain why (1) you made this edit here and (2) why coronation is required for someone to be a monarch? — B. L. I. R. 19:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
King Charles automatically became king under a common law rule
Rex nunquam moritur’, which translates as ‘The King never dies
Source https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1666689/Prince-Charles-King-now-crowned-coronation/amp
The King is dead, long live the king
source https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rKAKXWXIa9gC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=uk+the+king+is+dead,+long+live+the+king+academic&source=bl&ots=lU15D89Xq_&sig=ACfU3U2AK7GqHikvA-ozzVVq4wvkxQXfTA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6qoOSwYf6AhW1SkEAHfwiDUE4MhDoAXoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=uk%20the%20king%20is%20dead%2C%20long%20live%20the%20king%20academic&f=false ChefBear01 ( talk) 10:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
We seem to be getting several hatnotes being added, see here. The one on the engineer I've deleted twice. WP:1HAT tells us to try to stick to one hatnote. I don't think the engineer, who averages nine hits a day, is important enough to disambiguate in this article. Wehwalt ( talk) 19:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Can we change the title from Charles III to King Chares III? Just "Charles III" will cause a bit of confusion. HistoryFanOfItAll1999 ( talk) 19:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
To change name too "King Charles III"???? HistoryFanOfItAll1999 ( talk) 19:12, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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change "prince Charles to king Charles KD burr ( talk) 19:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Do the old "Charles Prince of Wales" links need to be updated to Charles III? Ebbedlila ( talk) 18:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The move to Charles III was already challenged, it should go through a move request at this point, not simply revert-warred back in place. nableezy - 18:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Wow, given the news coverage today. One would've thought this Charles III, would've been the most recognised by that name. GoodDay ( talk) 22:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
He has been referred to as King by Buckingham Palace and The Prime Minister, however it is not officiated until his Coronation which will take place whenever it is planned to do so.
So maybe it was a bit rushed to rename the article so rapidly?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/09/08/when-queen-elizabeth-dies-charles-will-become-king---heres-whos-next-in-line-of-british-succession/ AF1990 ( talk) 18:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Also masses of Wikipedia editing to come, in particular changing "Her Majesty's [e.g. Stationery Office]". I did start to do this many years ago, changing "Her Majesty's Stationery Office" to something like "His/Her Majesty's Stationery Office", but got reverted. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 18:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Edinburgh, Duke of Rothesay, even Prince of Wales: did he automatically cease to hold these titles? The article has been edited putting 8 September 2022 as the end date, but this may be just people making assumptions. And William does not, I believe, automatically become Prince of Wales. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 18:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Aside from the Duke of Edinburgh, every other role is vacant until granted. Ebbedlila ( talk) 18:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The naming consistency is broken as Charles usurps the throne. We shall tweak the name to make consistant. ElusiveTaker ( talk) 18:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
title announced and verified by the British Prime Minister. 50.102.147.20 ( talk) 18:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Support moving the page since the PM has announced as such cookie monster 755 18:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Clarence House has confirmed Charles III, according to the BBC. -- 84.65.68.38 ( talk) 18:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Also announced by the Palace that that is the name he will use.
Is he definitely going to use "Charles III"? 197.87.143.28 ( talk) 18:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
No, no official announcement has been made. The BBC doesn’t have the power to decide. Eccekevin ( talk) 18:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
(ec*lots) Yes, it'd been "pre-announced" by the PM, then officially announced from his own press office, both reported by the BBC. Unless he changes his mind before it's officially-official from the Accession Council, but that's very unlikely, and what edit buttons are for. 109.255.211.6 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Namely Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu. Mike Rohsopht ( talk) 18:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Since I live in the UK, I should be able to edit. I would like to add, 'Charles also inherited the title of King of the United Kingdom after the death of his mother on 8th September 2022, Elizabeth II.' TheEditor2024 ( talk) 17:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
But Charles inherited other titles as well, such as King of Canada, Australia, Jamaica, etc etc, we canno just write King of UK GucciNuzayer ( talk) 03:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Charles the 3rd should not be on this page. He has not officially chosen his name yet. It's a bit premature. 166.182.250.222 ( talk) 17:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Should wait for official proclamation, and revert to Charles for now. Eccekevin ( talk) 18:20, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Mmm... until the officialization we might not put Charles III a his regal name 18:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The BBC has confirmed he will be known as Charles III.
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Would just like to point out that the new King is not 'of England', as the caption under the thumbnail states 80.43.45.105 ( talk) 18:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
He won't officially be Charles III until he declares his name before the Accession Council in a few days. Until then, he is officially Charles, King of ......
I agree. Some may argue that if Charles is taken as the regnal name it would be Charles iv of Scotland (iii for non-Jacobites) and various others for different factions in Scotland, Ireland.
This page is about to get a lot of action as death of EII confirmed. Reliable sources already using "king" as is custom. Cameron Scott ( talk) Cameron Scott ( talk) 17:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
BBC confirmed he’s Charles III https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59135132 GamerKlim9716 ( talk) 19:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)