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The Section under music refers only to songs released post 2010, whereas Madonna released the ground-breaking S&M-themed song 'Erotica' in 1992. The video contains nudity, Madonna dressed as a dominatrix and S&M imagery. While the lyrics refer to S&M, pain as pleasure, infantilism and the female as the dominant partner. /info/en/?search=Erotica_(song) As well as this, she released the photograph book 'Sex' which is full of imagery of S&M & domination (female on female, female on male, male on female). /info/en/?search=Sex_(book) This was incredibly shocking in 1992, by the time Rihanna and Aguilera released their S&M-themed songs, the subject was already somewhat tame. Please give Madonna the credit she deserves for bringing the topic to the mainstream. 2A02:8309:2183:7800:BDFA:D66C:2D23:B424 ( talk) 07:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Furthermore, Madonna's 1990 single "Hanky Panky" is all about BDSM, with lyrics about spanking, bondage, domination. /info/en/?search=Hanky_Panky_(Madonna_song) The video for her 1995 single "Human Nature" also contained BDSM elements, with Madonna dressed in a rubber bodysuit, chained to a chair and also dominating bound male and female dancers and wielding a riding crop. /info/en/?search=Human_Nature_(Madonna_song) 86.49.231.136 ( talk) 09:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
The section on sadomasochism that describes it as an addiction was added by someone with an axe to grind and no sources to back them up. One citation suffers from every imaginable bias (a "phenomenological study" of 9 criminals in prison is hardly a scientific endeavor), and the other isn't even relevant (it's about gambling, and the supposed link is not apparent in the data). 50.47.99.220 ( talk) 15:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Just a full set of titties and a vulva right on here. Stopchewingyourcuticles ( talk) 10:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
This reference and it's associated URL(s) redirect to "uea.su", an old domain on the UEA Students' Union which is no longer valid. The reference should be either removed entirely, or the URL(s) updated to reflect the domain change circa February 2022 ( https://www.ueasu.org); as an aside, the associated student society no longer exists, so deletion may be recommended. Union Communications ( talk) 13:38, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Done Reference has been updated. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 01:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Why is this article considred an LGBT studies article. BDSM is not inherently LGBT. DarknessGoth777 ( talk) 02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Under Psychology, 3rd paragraph, it states: "The prevalence of sadomasochism within the general population is unknown."
Suggest removing the above sentence and adding a new paragraph stating:
In the U.S., a 2017 prevalence survey found that in their lifetime, 32% of adults have engaged in spanking, 23% have engaged in role-playing, 21% in tying/being tied up, and 15% in playful whipping. Attending a BDSM party was much lower, at less than 4% of the U.S. population. (Herbenick, 2017) In Canada, nearly half of the people who responded to a prevalence survey said they were interested in at least one kind of unusual sexual interest: voyeurism, fetishism, frotteurism or masochism. Men and women both expressed similar levels of interest in masochism, and masochism was significantly linked with higher satisfaction in their sexual life. (Joyal, 2016)
Citations:
Herbenick, D., Bowling, J., Fu, T. J., Dodge, B., Guerra-Reyes, L., & Sanders, S. (2017). Sexual Diversity in the United States: Results from a nationally representative probability sample of adult women and men. PloS one, 12(7), e0181198. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0181198
Christian C. Joyal & Julie Carpentier (2016): The Prevalence of Paraphilic Interests and Behaviors in the General Population: A Provincial Survey, The Journal of Sex Research, DOI: 10.1080/00224499.2016.1139034 SusanWrightAZ ( talk) 23:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Contract (BDSM) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 06 November 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into BDSM. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Branding (BDSM) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 20 May 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into BDSM. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Scene (BDSM) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 14 May 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into BDSM. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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The Section under music refers only to songs released post 2010, whereas Madonna released the ground-breaking S&M-themed song 'Erotica' in 1992. The video contains nudity, Madonna dressed as a dominatrix and S&M imagery. While the lyrics refer to S&M, pain as pleasure, infantilism and the female as the dominant partner. /info/en/?search=Erotica_(song) As well as this, she released the photograph book 'Sex' which is full of imagery of S&M & domination (female on female, female on male, male on female). /info/en/?search=Sex_(book) This was incredibly shocking in 1992, by the time Rihanna and Aguilera released their S&M-themed songs, the subject was already somewhat tame. Please give Madonna the credit she deserves for bringing the topic to the mainstream. 2A02:8309:2183:7800:BDFA:D66C:2D23:B424 ( talk) 07:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Furthermore, Madonna's 1990 single "Hanky Panky" is all about BDSM, with lyrics about spanking, bondage, domination. /info/en/?search=Hanky_Panky_(Madonna_song) The video for her 1995 single "Human Nature" also contained BDSM elements, with Madonna dressed in a rubber bodysuit, chained to a chair and also dominating bound male and female dancers and wielding a riding crop. /info/en/?search=Human_Nature_(Madonna_song) 86.49.231.136 ( talk) 09:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
The section on sadomasochism that describes it as an addiction was added by someone with an axe to grind and no sources to back them up. One citation suffers from every imaginable bias (a "phenomenological study" of 9 criminals in prison is hardly a scientific endeavor), and the other isn't even relevant (it's about gambling, and the supposed link is not apparent in the data). 50.47.99.220 ( talk) 15:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Just a full set of titties and a vulva right on here. Stopchewingyourcuticles ( talk) 10:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
This reference and it's associated URL(s) redirect to "uea.su", an old domain on the UEA Students' Union which is no longer valid. The reference should be either removed entirely, or the URL(s) updated to reflect the domain change circa February 2022 ( https://www.ueasu.org); as an aside, the associated student society no longer exists, so deletion may be recommended. Union Communications ( talk) 13:38, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Done Reference has been updated. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 01:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Why is this article considred an LGBT studies article. BDSM is not inherently LGBT. DarknessGoth777 ( talk) 02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Under Psychology, 3rd paragraph, it states: "The prevalence of sadomasochism within the general population is unknown."
Suggest removing the above sentence and adding a new paragraph stating:
In the U.S., a 2017 prevalence survey found that in their lifetime, 32% of adults have engaged in spanking, 23% have engaged in role-playing, 21% in tying/being tied up, and 15% in playful whipping. Attending a BDSM party was much lower, at less than 4% of the U.S. population. (Herbenick, 2017) In Canada, nearly half of the people who responded to a prevalence survey said they were interested in at least one kind of unusual sexual interest: voyeurism, fetishism, frotteurism or masochism. Men and women both expressed similar levels of interest in masochism, and masochism was significantly linked with higher satisfaction in their sexual life. (Joyal, 2016)
Citations:
Herbenick, D., Bowling, J., Fu, T. J., Dodge, B., Guerra-Reyes, L., & Sanders, S. (2017). Sexual Diversity in the United States: Results from a nationally representative probability sample of adult women and men. PloS one, 12(7), e0181198. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0181198
Christian C. Joyal & Julie Carpentier (2016): The Prevalence of Paraphilic Interests and Behaviors in the General Population: A Provincial Survey, The Journal of Sex Research, DOI: 10.1080/00224499.2016.1139034 SusanWrightAZ ( talk) 23:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)