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User:Димитрий Улянов Иванов, ScienceDirect topics is a random collection of excerpts that an algorithm thinks may be relevant to the subject. Its content changes all the time so claims based on it are nor verifiable, the quotes on it are out of context which limits their utility, and the authors that wrote the excerpts are not credited when only Topics is cited. That's why its use is deprecated on Wikipedia according to
WP:RSP. I'll be removing the citation again but if you can find the paper you were talking about in your edit, I don't have any problem with you adding it in place of the Topics citation.
HansVonStuttgart (
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14:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
No problem, sorry for the misplaced citation. My contention was just that it is identified by the International Consensus Statement on ADHD as a reputable source. I will reference that instead.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
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21:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Evaluating the evidence for the efficacy of exercise
Although the article cites a series of studies suggesting exercise is efficacious for reducing the symptoms of ADHD, the International Consensus Statement on ADHD concluded that exercise has no statistically significant effects due to the results of two comprehensive meta-analyses and systematic reviews.
1
Since that is the global scientific consensus, it seems to me that it may need to take priority as a replacement of the statements entirely, as I've seen elsewhere. But would the best course of action be to reference both lines of evidence?
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
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18:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Typo/Outdated Name for Autism in Sidebar
This is a very simple edit, but the hyperlink to Autism in the "differential diagnosis" section in the sidebar is outdated, being listed as "autism spectrum disorder." If this could be changed ASAP, that would be wonderful. Thank you.
Smartestpuppy (
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22:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but Autism Spectrum Disorder is not an outdated name; for it is currently established by standardised diagnostic criteria (i.e., DSM-5, ICD-11) and the developers of evidence-based international guidelines (e.g. WHO, NICE).
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
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17:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Infobox Image; discussion
I agree with @Omphalographer that the current image is unnecessary, considering it hardly represents the disorder. While academic performance is a common domain of impairment for those with ADHD, the implication that it is primarily a school-based issue trivialises the seriousness of ADHD and the main domains in life it impacts, especially when the image fails to capture symptomatic expressions.
It may be prudent to find a replacement image but some candidates could be showcasing the underlying neurology of ADHD or the relationship of the executive functions to its behavioural and cognitive expressions (see Barkley et al. for figures). That would convey ADHD much more comprehensively.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
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11:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)reply
You can barely read anything with the image you added. The text should at least be readable as a thumbnail. There's also a similar existing image in the article. –
The Grid (
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16:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)reply
The text is readable viewing from both my laptop and mobile. Plenty of infobox images use images with text around this size (e.g. Bulgarian or russian alphabet) and I'm not aware of a guideline prohibiting this, especially when its evidently readable. Even then, the image can always be made to appear larger. And there is no comparable image already in the article; this is the only image in the article which displays both the neuroanatomy and neuropsychology of ADHD and their relationship with each other, with description.
ADHD is, at it's core, a disorder of executive functioning and self-regulation. Depicting that in the infobox in a summatory way is important, rather than an arbitrary picture of a school environment, which does not represent ADHD or its symptoms, and trivialises the disorder for the reasons we discussed.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
17:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)reply
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User:Димитрий Улянов Иванов, ScienceDirect topics is a random collection of excerpts that an algorithm thinks may be relevant to the subject. Its content changes all the time so claims based on it are nor verifiable, the quotes on it are out of context which limits their utility, and the authors that wrote the excerpts are not credited when only Topics is cited. That's why its use is deprecated on Wikipedia according to
WP:RSP. I'll be removing the citation again but if you can find the paper you were talking about in your edit, I don't have any problem with you adding it in place of the Topics citation.
HansVonStuttgart (
talk)
14:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
No problem, sorry for the misplaced citation. My contention was just that it is identified by the International Consensus Statement on ADHD as a reputable source. I will reference that instead.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
21:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Evaluating the evidence for the efficacy of exercise
Although the article cites a series of studies suggesting exercise is efficacious for reducing the symptoms of ADHD, the International Consensus Statement on ADHD concluded that exercise has no statistically significant effects due to the results of two comprehensive meta-analyses and systematic reviews.
1
Since that is the global scientific consensus, it seems to me that it may need to take priority as a replacement of the statements entirely, as I've seen elsewhere. But would the best course of action be to reference both lines of evidence?
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
18:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Typo/Outdated Name for Autism in Sidebar
This is a very simple edit, but the hyperlink to Autism in the "differential diagnosis" section in the sidebar is outdated, being listed as "autism spectrum disorder." If this could be changed ASAP, that would be wonderful. Thank you.
Smartestpuppy (
talk)
22:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but Autism Spectrum Disorder is not an outdated name; for it is currently established by standardised diagnostic criteria (i.e., DSM-5, ICD-11) and the developers of evidence-based international guidelines (e.g. WHO, NICE).
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
17:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Infobox Image; discussion
I agree with @Omphalographer that the current image is unnecessary, considering it hardly represents the disorder. While academic performance is a common domain of impairment for those with ADHD, the implication that it is primarily a school-based issue trivialises the seriousness of ADHD and the main domains in life it impacts, especially when the image fails to capture symptomatic expressions.
It may be prudent to find a replacement image but some candidates could be showcasing the underlying neurology of ADHD or the relationship of the executive functions to its behavioural and cognitive expressions (see Barkley et al. for figures). That would convey ADHD much more comprehensively.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
11:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)reply
You can barely read anything with the image you added. The text should at least be readable as a thumbnail. There's also a similar existing image in the article. –
The Grid (
talk)
16:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)reply
The text is readable viewing from both my laptop and mobile. Plenty of infobox images use images with text around this size (e.g. Bulgarian or russian alphabet) and I'm not aware of a guideline prohibiting this, especially when its evidently readable. Even then, the image can always be made to appear larger. And there is no comparable image already in the article; this is the only image in the article which displays both the neuroanatomy and neuropsychology of ADHD and their relationship with each other, with description.
ADHD is, at it's core, a disorder of executive functioning and self-regulation. Depicting that in the infobox in a summatory way is important, rather than an arbitrary picture of a school environment, which does not represent ADHD or its symptoms, and trivialises the disorder for the reasons we discussed.
Димитрий Улянов Иванов (
talk)
17:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)reply