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Good articleAttention deficit hyperactivity disorder has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 16, 2006 Good article nomineeListed
October 8, 2006 Featured article candidateNot promoted
March 13, 2007 Good article reassessmentDelisted
August 16, 2013 Good article nomineeListed
February 17, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

There is no evidence that methylphenidate is actually effective. Remove the claims.

A comprehensive Cochrane review: https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h5203.short found very low certainty that Ritalin is more effective than placebo. Cochrane is the GOLD STANDARD for evidence. So, effectiveness of stimulants is actually unknown, contrary to the edits by Димитрий Улянов Иванов. 2A00:23C8:A821:8D01:95ED:5D0C:6FE:FD84 ( talk) 20:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

While I appreciate your effort to criticise with the scientific literature, the meta-analysis you cited is seriously flawed. For details, see Banaschewski et al. (2016), Cortese et al. (2016) and Hoekstra et al. (2016) Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 21:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

ScienceDirect Topics

User:Димитрий Улянов Иванов, ScienceDirect topics is a random collection of excerpts that an algorithm thinks may be relevant to the subject. Its content changes all the time so claims based on it are nor verifiable, the quotes on it are out of context which limits their utility, and the authors that wrote the excerpts are not credited when only Topics is cited. That's why its use is deprecated on Wikipedia according to WP:RSP. I'll be removing the citation again but if you can find the paper you were talking about in your edit, I don't have any problem with you adding it in place of the Topics citation. HansVonStuttgart ( talk) 14:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

No problem, sorry for the misplaced citation. My contention was just that it is identified by the International Consensus Statement on ADHD as a reputable source. I will reference that instead. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 21:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Evaluating the evidence for the efficacy of exercise

Although the article cites a series of studies suggesting exercise is efficacious for reducing the symptoms of ADHD, the International Consensus Statement on ADHD concluded that exercise has no statistically significant effects due to the results of two comprehensive meta-analyses and systematic reviews. 1

Since that is the global scientific consensus, it seems to me that it may need to take priority as a replacement of the statements entirely, as I've seen elsewhere. But would the best course of action be to reference both lines of evidence? Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 18:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Typo/Outdated Name for Autism in Sidebar

This is a very simple edit, but the hyperlink to Autism in the "differential diagnosis" section in the sidebar is outdated, being listed as "autism spectrum disorder." If this could be changed ASAP, that would be wonderful. Thank you. Smartestpuppy ( talk) 22:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but Autism Spectrum Disorder is not an outdated name; for it is currently established by standardised diagnostic criteria (i.e., DSM-5, ICD-11) and the developers of evidence-based international guidelines (e.g. WHO, NICE). Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 17:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Infobox Image; discussion

I agree with @Omphalographer that the current image is unnecessary, considering it hardly represents the disorder. While academic performance is a common domain of impairment for those with ADHD, the implication that it is primarily a school-based issue trivialises the seriousness of ADHD and the main domains in life it impacts, especially when the image fails to capture symptomatic expressions.

It may be prudent to find a replacement image but some candidates could be showcasing the underlying neurology of ADHD or the relationship of the executive functions to its behavioural and cognitive expressions (see Barkley et al. for figures). That would convey ADHD much more comprehensively. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 11:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply

You can barely read anything with the image you added. The text should at least be readable as a thumbnail. There's also a similar existing image in the article. – The Grid ( talk) 16:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The text is readable viewing from both my laptop and mobile. Plenty of infobox images use images with text around this size (e.g. Bulgarian or russian alphabet) and I'm not aware of a guideline prohibiting this, especially when its evidently readable. Even then, the image can always be made to appear larger. And there is no comparable image already in the article; this is the only image in the article which displays both the neuroanatomy and neuropsychology of ADHD and their relationship with each other, with description.
ADHD is, at it's core, a disorder of executive functioning and self-regulation. Depicting that in the infobox in a summatory way is important, rather than an arbitrary picture of a school environment, which does not represent ADHD or its symptoms, and trivialises the disorder for the reasons we discussed. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 17:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Good articleAttention deficit hyperactivity disorder has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 16, 2006 Good article nomineeListed
October 8, 2006 Featured article candidateNot promoted
March 13, 2007 Good article reassessmentDelisted
August 16, 2013 Good article nomineeListed
February 17, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

There is no evidence that methylphenidate is actually effective. Remove the claims.

A comprehensive Cochrane review: https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h5203.short found very low certainty that Ritalin is more effective than placebo. Cochrane is the GOLD STANDARD for evidence. So, effectiveness of stimulants is actually unknown, contrary to the edits by Димитрий Улянов Иванов. 2A00:23C8:A821:8D01:95ED:5D0C:6FE:FD84 ( talk) 20:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

While I appreciate your effort to criticise with the scientific literature, the meta-analysis you cited is seriously flawed. For details, see Banaschewski et al. (2016), Cortese et al. (2016) and Hoekstra et al. (2016) Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 21:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

ScienceDirect Topics

User:Димитрий Улянов Иванов, ScienceDirect topics is a random collection of excerpts that an algorithm thinks may be relevant to the subject. Its content changes all the time so claims based on it are nor verifiable, the quotes on it are out of context which limits their utility, and the authors that wrote the excerpts are not credited when only Topics is cited. That's why its use is deprecated on Wikipedia according to WP:RSP. I'll be removing the citation again but if you can find the paper you were talking about in your edit, I don't have any problem with you adding it in place of the Topics citation. HansVonStuttgart ( talk) 14:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

No problem, sorry for the misplaced citation. My contention was just that it is identified by the International Consensus Statement on ADHD as a reputable source. I will reference that instead. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 21:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Evaluating the evidence for the efficacy of exercise

Although the article cites a series of studies suggesting exercise is efficacious for reducing the symptoms of ADHD, the International Consensus Statement on ADHD concluded that exercise has no statistically significant effects due to the results of two comprehensive meta-analyses and systematic reviews. 1

Since that is the global scientific consensus, it seems to me that it may need to take priority as a replacement of the statements entirely, as I've seen elsewhere. But would the best course of action be to reference both lines of evidence? Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 18:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Typo/Outdated Name for Autism in Sidebar

This is a very simple edit, but the hyperlink to Autism in the "differential diagnosis" section in the sidebar is outdated, being listed as "autism spectrum disorder." If this could be changed ASAP, that would be wonderful. Thank you. Smartestpuppy ( talk) 22:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but Autism Spectrum Disorder is not an outdated name; for it is currently established by standardised diagnostic criteria (i.e., DSM-5, ICD-11) and the developers of evidence-based international guidelines (e.g. WHO, NICE). Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 17:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Infobox Image; discussion

I agree with @Omphalographer that the current image is unnecessary, considering it hardly represents the disorder. While academic performance is a common domain of impairment for those with ADHD, the implication that it is primarily a school-based issue trivialises the seriousness of ADHD and the main domains in life it impacts, especially when the image fails to capture symptomatic expressions.

It may be prudent to find a replacement image but some candidates could be showcasing the underlying neurology of ADHD or the relationship of the executive functions to its behavioural and cognitive expressions (see Barkley et al. for figures). That would convey ADHD much more comprehensively. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 11:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply

You can barely read anything with the image you added. The text should at least be readable as a thumbnail. There's also a similar existing image in the article. – The Grid ( talk) 16:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The text is readable viewing from both my laptop and mobile. Plenty of infobox images use images with text around this size (e.g. Bulgarian or russian alphabet) and I'm not aware of a guideline prohibiting this, especially when its evidently readable. Even then, the image can always be made to appear larger. And there is no comparable image already in the article; this is the only image in the article which displays both the neuroanatomy and neuropsychology of ADHD and their relationship with each other, with description.
ADHD is, at it's core, a disorder of executive functioning and self-regulation. Depicting that in the infobox in a summatory way is important, rather than an arbitrary picture of a school environment, which does not represent ADHD or its symptoms, and trivialises the disorder for the reasons we discussed. Димитрий Улянов Иванов ( talk) 17:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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