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A fact from Antonio Crutta appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 May 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the role of Antonio Crutta, the interpreter for Polish king
Stanisław August in the 1787–1792
Russo-Turkish War, was to "melt the suspicions of the Turks without arousing those of the Russians"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
""When war broke out between Russia and Turkey _1787=1792), with Poland anxious to remain neutral, Antonio Crutta was in the employ of King Stanislas-Auguste, his delicate task being to interpret during the negotiations in such a way as to "melt the suspicions of the Turks without arousing the suspicions of the Russians."
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Fa alk: You're part-way there, in the fact that you actually opened a nomination template. Now you have to put a hook up there after "that ...", and add a link to the source that verifies the hook.
— Maile (
talk)
21:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Maile66: If you don't mind, I made a couple of edits and added myself as a nominator to help the DYK process. The hook I suggest if @
Fa alk: is ok with stands at 192 characters just short of the 200-character limit. The writing of this article began on 31 March, but it was complete around April 2, so I think that it is - barely - within the one-week limit. Since this is Fa alk's first DYKN, I don't think that a review is required.--
Maleschreiber (
talk)
00:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Maleschreiber: a formal review by an uninvolved editor is required of all nominations to make sure it meets the requirements for it to appear on the main page. If everything meets those requirements, it passes. If work is still needed, the reviewer will post a message here, and the work can be taken care of. Any issues that come up on the review can be answered and taken care of by anyone, such as yourself. It doesn't have to be @
Fa alk:. Please put this page on your watch list, if you want to keep an eye on it. Once all the requirements are met, the hook is approved by the reviewer.
— Maile (
talk)
00:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Date, size, hook, copyvio, are ok. But there was a partially unreferenced paragraph, and it needs to be referenced. Also, not a DYK issue, but I'll point out that the lead is too long, and contains material (like the quote used in the hook) that should be split and moved down. It would be good to see the lead fixed before this hits the main page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here02:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Piotrus, I have edited the original hook so it isn't a complete run-on, but hooks should not be approved when they're problematic in this way, they should be fixed first. Also, "tasked to" is not ideal—better would be "tasked with", but that would require changing "melt" to "melt[ing]", also not ideal. Perhaps "tasked" could be changed to "supposed" (I like "instructed", but I'm not sure the article adequately supports that). Another way is to use the word "role" as per the article:
I admit I am a bit confused with what the problem was, perhaps the fact I am not a native speaker is an issue. In either way, your revised hook seems totally fine to me, and I trust your judgment it is preferable (as I don't see much of a difference). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here01:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, it doesn't change the content of the hook, but it makes it shorter which is a good thing. So, it can move ahead with that hook.--
Maleschreiber (
talk)
01:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Piotrus: the article was started on March 31 and by the time of the nomination on April 8 was not a 5x expansion. Are you IAR on the 7-day nomination time?
Yoninah (
talk) 16:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah (
talk)
16:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Poland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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A fact from Antonio Crutta appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 May 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the role of Antonio Crutta, the interpreter for Polish king
Stanisław August in the 1787–1792
Russo-Turkish War, was to "melt the suspicions of the Turks without arousing those of the Russians"?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
""When war broke out between Russia and Turkey _1787=1792), with Poland anxious to remain neutral, Antonio Crutta was in the employ of King Stanislas-Auguste, his delicate task being to interpret during the negotiations in such a way as to "melt the suspicions of the Turks without arousing the suspicions of the Russians."
@
Fa alk: You're part-way there, in the fact that you actually opened a nomination template. Now you have to put a hook up there after "that ...", and add a link to the source that verifies the hook.
— Maile (
talk)
21:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Maile66: If you don't mind, I made a couple of edits and added myself as a nominator to help the DYK process. The hook I suggest if @
Fa alk: is ok with stands at 192 characters just short of the 200-character limit. The writing of this article began on 31 March, but it was complete around April 2, so I think that it is - barely - within the one-week limit. Since this is Fa alk's first DYKN, I don't think that a review is required.--
Maleschreiber (
talk)
00:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Maleschreiber: a formal review by an uninvolved editor is required of all nominations to make sure it meets the requirements for it to appear on the main page. If everything meets those requirements, it passes. If work is still needed, the reviewer will post a message here, and the work can be taken care of. Any issues that come up on the review can be answered and taken care of by anyone, such as yourself. It doesn't have to be @
Fa alk:. Please put this page on your watch list, if you want to keep an eye on it. Once all the requirements are met, the hook is approved by the reviewer.
— Maile (
talk)
00:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Date, size, hook, copyvio, are ok. But there was a partially unreferenced paragraph, and it needs to be referenced. Also, not a DYK issue, but I'll point out that the lead is too long, and contains material (like the quote used in the hook) that should be split and moved down. It would be good to see the lead fixed before this hits the main page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here02:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Piotrus, I have edited the original hook so it isn't a complete run-on, but hooks should not be approved when they're problematic in this way, they should be fixed first. Also, "tasked to" is not ideal—better would be "tasked with", but that would require changing "melt" to "melt[ing]", also not ideal. Perhaps "tasked" could be changed to "supposed" (I like "instructed", but I'm not sure the article adequately supports that). Another way is to use the word "role" as per the article:
I admit I am a bit confused with what the problem was, perhaps the fact I am not a native speaker is an issue. In either way, your revised hook seems totally fine to me, and I trust your judgment it is preferable (as I don't see much of a difference). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here01:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, it doesn't change the content of the hook, but it makes it shorter which is a good thing. So, it can move ahead with that hook.--
Maleschreiber (
talk)
01:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Piotrus: the article was started on March 31 and by the time of the nomination on April 8 was not a 5x expansion. Are you IAR on the 7-day nomination time?
Yoninah (
talk) 16:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah (
talk)
16:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)reply