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Polish resistance memberAlicja Iwańska became an academic and compared political, religious, and racial persecution in Europe to U.S. segregation restrictions?
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I finished my c/e. One tidbit - I think in her first husband bio I noted she never accepted the official version of her death and argued for the more conspiracy theory-like scenario in her book. This probably should be mentioned here too? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here11:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Piotrus Thank you, you know the nouns always cause me problems ;). It was a difficult writing job, as her career was more compartmentalized than most. Finding reviews on her books given the time frame was pretty difficult, but I'll see what I can find. The book in question is Niezdemobilizowani right?
SusunW (
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13:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
I didn't say she was born in Poland because I said her family were part of the Polish intelligentsia, which seemed redundant. I have flipped it around. DoneSusunW (
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18:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Having never felt at ease in the United States, Iwańska immediately moved to London, - immediately??
She took early retirement so she could leave the US, so yes, immediately. I changed it to say "that year", if that is better? DoneSusunW (
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18:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
"Aware that war was coming, Iwańska went to visit her family and construct a cache for necessities that might be needed during the conflict. She then returned to Warsaw" -dates?
Her hearings, during the era of McCarthyism, dragged on for years before asylum was finally granted. -when?
No idea, sources don't say. Obviously she got it before 1957 because that was one of the reasons she married and became a US citizen.
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"Some of her most important work was written during this period.[1] She began collaborating with Sol Tax, studied the Mazahua people,[11] and was one of the first to publish details of the civic-religious system of duties employed to maintain order in their society.[12][13] Works like The Mexican Indian: Image and Identity and The Truths of Others: An Essay on Nativistic Intellectuals in Mexico questioned the duality of indigenous people's treatment" -Some of her most important work was written during this period.- this would be best before mentioning them rather than going back to Sol and returning, flows better that way
Public rhetoric in Mexico then and now is built upon a mestizo identity for all Mexicans, celebrating the mixing of European and indigenous ideas which are foundational to the culture. The government actually implemented an ideology to promote the idea of racial harmony/homogenization. So the official line is being indigenous adds to our uniqueness as a culture and is positive, but the reality is that indigenous people still experienced the same types of discrimination as they did/do elsewhere. Unsure how
Mestizos in Mexico could be linked. I'll think on it, but will be glad of any suggestions on how to clarify the concept.
SusunW (
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19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
By the way, the source used glorified, which to me, knowing the background was clear, but I see that to someone unfamiliar, it might not explain the odd curiosity. I've given a go at rewording it, "noting that while the
government ideology officially celebrated their culture and artworks as part of the unique Mexican identity, they experienced racism from the public". Does that work? Is there a better/clearer way to convey the idea?
SusunW (
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15:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)reply
she was sent to train in Chile and Paris,- add France, was it in Santiago, Chile?
Her reputation earned her an assistant professorship at the State University of New York at Albany in 1965, where her work over the next two decades focused mostly on immigrants and emigrants in American history. -add comma after decades
In 1968, Iwańska published Świat przetłumaczony (The Translated World), a fictitious account which focused on her work in Mexico. -repitition of the word focused, reword?
" It was taken in oral fashion from the villagers themselves, written down and then read to the community for editing" -maybe reword to "Iwańska interviewed the villagers, wrote down their accounts, then read them back to the community for verification" DoneSusunW (
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19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Did she not do anything in the late 70s? That 70s-80s paragraph could do with beefing up if possible
The problem is that much of the period has not yet been digitized and her academic career in the US was ignored?/unknown? in Poland, where she was mostly remembered as a literary figure. Newspapers were the only source I could find for much of her activity in that period. I actually looked for reviews of her work, but found very little on-line. Only within the last 5 years has her career trajectory been examined as a whole, so of course it is possible that new sources clarifying some of the missing details will be emerging.
SusunW (
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19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
" Experiencing health problems, Iwańska was diagnosed with lung cancer, the same disease which had afflicted her mother." -smoking?
Nope. Per the sources "It surprised her, she never smoked", it was a hereditary type. I added "genetic" before disease to clarify.
SusunW (
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19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Hey
Dr. Blofeld thanks for the review. I've answered most of them, but for some there just aren't answers. The one still on the table that may be a "big deal" is the one about Mexican identity. I'm just not sure how to seamlessly link to it.
SusunW (
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19:09, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
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Polish resistance memberAlicja Iwańska became an academic and compared political, religious, and racial persecution in Europe to U.S. segregation restrictions?
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I finished my c/e. One tidbit - I think in her first husband bio I noted she never accepted the official version of her death and argued for the more conspiracy theory-like scenario in her book. This probably should be mentioned here too? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here11:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Piotrus Thank you, you know the nouns always cause me problems ;). It was a difficult writing job, as her career was more compartmentalized than most. Finding reviews on her books given the time frame was pretty difficult, but I'll see what I can find. The book in question is Niezdemobilizowani right?
SusunW (
talk)
13:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
I didn't say she was born in Poland because I said her family were part of the Polish intelligentsia, which seemed redundant. I have flipped it around. DoneSusunW (
talk)
18:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Having never felt at ease in the United States, Iwańska immediately moved to London, - immediately??
She took early retirement so she could leave the US, so yes, immediately. I changed it to say "that year", if that is better? DoneSusunW (
talk)
18:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
"Aware that war was coming, Iwańska went to visit her family and construct a cache for necessities that might be needed during the conflict. She then returned to Warsaw" -dates?
Her hearings, during the era of McCarthyism, dragged on for years before asylum was finally granted. -when?
No idea, sources don't say. Obviously she got it before 1957 because that was one of the reasons she married and became a US citizen.
SusunW (
talk)
19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
"Some of her most important work was written during this period.[1] She began collaborating with Sol Tax, studied the Mazahua people,[11] and was one of the first to publish details of the civic-religious system of duties employed to maintain order in their society.[12][13] Works like The Mexican Indian: Image and Identity and The Truths of Others: An Essay on Nativistic Intellectuals in Mexico questioned the duality of indigenous people's treatment" -Some of her most important work was written during this period.- this would be best before mentioning them rather than going back to Sol and returning, flows better that way
Public rhetoric in Mexico then and now is built upon a mestizo identity for all Mexicans, celebrating the mixing of European and indigenous ideas which are foundational to the culture. The government actually implemented an ideology to promote the idea of racial harmony/homogenization. So the official line is being indigenous adds to our uniqueness as a culture and is positive, but the reality is that indigenous people still experienced the same types of discrimination as they did/do elsewhere. Unsure how
Mestizos in Mexico could be linked. I'll think on it, but will be glad of any suggestions on how to clarify the concept.
SusunW (
talk)
19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
By the way, the source used glorified, which to me, knowing the background was clear, but I see that to someone unfamiliar, it might not explain the odd curiosity. I've given a go at rewording it, "noting that while the
government ideology officially celebrated their culture and artworks as part of the unique Mexican identity, they experienced racism from the public". Does that work? Is there a better/clearer way to convey the idea?
SusunW (
talk)
15:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)reply
she was sent to train in Chile and Paris,- add France, was it in Santiago, Chile?
Her reputation earned her an assistant professorship at the State University of New York at Albany in 1965, where her work over the next two decades focused mostly on immigrants and emigrants in American history. -add comma after decades
In 1968, Iwańska published Świat przetłumaczony (The Translated World), a fictitious account which focused on her work in Mexico. -repitition of the word focused, reword?
" It was taken in oral fashion from the villagers themselves, written down and then read to the community for editing" -maybe reword to "Iwańska interviewed the villagers, wrote down their accounts, then read them back to the community for verification" DoneSusunW (
talk)
19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Did she not do anything in the late 70s? That 70s-80s paragraph could do with beefing up if possible
The problem is that much of the period has not yet been digitized and her academic career in the US was ignored?/unknown? in Poland, where she was mostly remembered as a literary figure. Newspapers were the only source I could find for much of her activity in that period. I actually looked for reviews of her work, but found very little on-line. Only within the last 5 years has her career trajectory been examined as a whole, so of course it is possible that new sources clarifying some of the missing details will be emerging.
SusunW (
talk)
19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
" Experiencing health problems, Iwańska was diagnosed with lung cancer, the same disease which had afflicted her mother." -smoking?
Nope. Per the sources "It surprised her, she never smoked", it was a hereditary type. I added "genetic" before disease to clarify.
SusunW (
talk)
19:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Hey
Dr. Blofeld thanks for the review. I've answered most of them, but for some there just aren't answers. The one still on the table that may be a "big deal" is the one about Mexican identity. I'm just not sure how to seamlessly link to it.
SusunW (
talk)
19:09, 7 September 2019 (UTC)reply