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Please fit that Afghanistan is not in South Asia but both Central and South Asia with MOST of it in Central Asia. Also, the man from Pakistan who declared himself president cannot officially change the flag. Please put the original red, black, and green flag.
Thank you
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The current official flag is still the black, red and green one. The terrorists have not been legitimised nor acknowledged by any country. Puting up the terrorist flag as the country’s legitimate flag is spreading false information. Also the majority of the ethnic tribes living in this land are central asian tribes. Afghanistan has always been a central asian country. This needs to be corrected in this page as well. Also the offical language of afghanistan is FARSI. The term dari is a political term made up in the 60’s by a pashtun politican to seperate people. That doesn’t change the fact that the language spoken is FARSI/ PERSIAN. Again, spreading false information. EsmaFaqeeri ( talk) 21:52, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Leader of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan#Requested move 1 May 2022. ― Tartan357 Talk 02:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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The first bit needs to be changed. Afghanistan has always been considered to be a crossroad between the Middle east, Central asia and South asia. Only south asians themselves consider afghanistan to be south asian. Afghans consider themselves to either be middle eastern or Central Asian. Afg.7777 ( talk) 19:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Mullah Abdul Ghani Brader Baheer Pathaan ( talk) 22:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Based on population and the percentage people speak specified language, Persian (Dari) must be first and then followed by pashto and other languages. This is a rule and does not relate to favourism. Zaki Frahmand, 13 May 2022, 22:22 UTC
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I request for a change in the flag of Afghanistan. This is Afghanistans flag🇦🇫 and it should be respected, thus it should be put in the picture for Afghanistan and it's inhabitants. 2A01:C23:7587:3C00:A528:CEF8:4D39:C9C1 ( talk) 18:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
WatanWatan2020, who previously
inaccurately stated that
"Afghanistan has been described as one of the most wealthiest countries in the world," is now insisting (
[2],
[3],
[4]) that "The nation has raised and had maintained one of the most powerful militaries in the world throughout its history, at one point, having the Royal Afghan Air Force infamous for being as large and as capable of its time"
(whatever that is supposed to mean), citing
Small Wars Journal. Unfortunately,
Small Wars Journal does not support a statement even remotely resembling WatanWatan2020's proposed addition.
For starters, the cited article only addresses the
Afghan Air Force (formed in the early twentieth century), not any other branches of the
Military of Afghanistan, as one might have expected given its title ("The Afghan Air Force: A Harsh Lesson in the Expensive Game of Airpower Reconstruction"). Furthermore, the cited article makes clear that the Afghan Air Force was not a significant regional power during the reign of the
Kingdom of Afghanistan—directly contradicting WatanWatan2020's proposed addition—has been historically dependent on foreign assistance, and was reduced to a "feeble"
shell of its former self by the
Afghan Civil War (1992–1996) following an unprecedented expansion during the era of the
Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (subsidized by the
Soviet Union). To wit:
First formed in 1924 by King Amanullah Khan with British and Soviet assistance, the Afghan Air Force would not reach the height of its power until the 1979 Soviet invasion. At one point, the AAF consisted of 400 aircraft and 7,000 active personnel, making it one of the largest air forces in Asia. After the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, the AAF, still heavily dependent on foreign support, lost its leading supplier of parts and maintenance personnel. During the ensuing civil conflict, the warring factions scavenged most AAF assets. By the time the Taliban took over in 1996, many of the remaining aircraft were useless, lacking spare parts and people with the skills to maintain them. In the early days of Operation Enduring Freedom, American airstrikes destroyed what was left of the feeble air force.
Notably, the rest of the cited article is devoted to chronicling a huge litany of problems with the Afghan Air Force under the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The author concludes that the U.S. totally failed to rebuild and modernize the Afghan Air Force:
Between 2008 and 2021, the United States spent approximately $8 billion to train and equip the Afghan Air Force. Unlike Iraq, where the U.S.-trained Iraqi Air Force is on a slow rise back to regional prominence, the U.S. has little to show for its investment in Afghanistan, even before the Taliban takeover. ... The United States should consider Afghanistan a case study for what not to do in any future attempts to rebuild or modernize partner nation air forces.
Having examined the cited article in context, it is clear that WatanWatan2020's assertion that "[Afghanistan] has raised and had maintained one of the most powerful militaries in the world throughout its history"
is inaccurate if not utterly surreal. This user's continued edit warring over such a clear-cut violation of
WP:V in a
topic area subject to discretionary sanctions is alarming, and calls into question the user's
competence and
fidelity to Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission.
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Hello, with the amount of complaining that is taking place, especially by @TheTimesAreChanging, you can put that effort into using your time to deal with a specific matter that you take issue you with in the paragraph, instead of deleting an entire paragraph with links and sources. I have seen your edit history, and it seems that you go around undoing mass edits because you do not put in the effort to deal with one specific matter. You do not reserve that right, nor the other editor, @LaundryPizza03 of doing such a thing. This is violation of multiple wikipedia rules for you to remove cited information, with links. It is outrageous and uncalled for that you remove cited information, but more than that, an entire paragraph, because you take issue with one sentence in it. That cannot fly. The citation is in there. You can propose how it is to be reworded. The Afghan Air force was indeed one of the largest and most capable air forces of its time, as the source mentions. and by extension the military overall was one of the most equipped and capable, in other words, most powerful. To point out again, one does not have that right to remove an entire paragraph because of an issue with a sentence within it. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 03:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
I have re-worded that sentence, although it was fine previously as well. This should come as a lesson to the @TheTimesAreChanging that you may not go around and undo mass paragraphs and edits because you are not capable of dealing with one specific sentence. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 03:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
"The Afghan Air force was indeed one of the largest and most capable air forces of its time, as the source mentions. and by extension the military overall was one of the most equipped and capable, in other words, most powerful."Again, we've literally gone through the source that you provided, paragraph-by-paragraph, and demonstrated that it does not say anything of the kind. You have not provided a quote from that source (or any other source) to substantiate your claim that
"The nation has raised and had maintained one of the most equipped militaries in the world throughout its history,"probably because no sources exist for such a ludicrous assertion. Continuing to reinstate this inaccurate content in violation of Wikipedia's sourcing policies in a topic area subject to discretionary sanctions will almost certainly result in a block or ban. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 06:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Your ego is quite out of control. Did you go ahead and address the idea that you do not reserve the right to delete an entire paragraph because you take issue with one sentence within it? It is actually a better time to start enforcing your edits, that you take pleasure in of undoing across a mass of pages throughout wikipedia. Do not undo edits with links and citations. You have been doing that across multiple pages that includes sources and citations, just because it seems to you that you do not like it. All other information within the paragraph is accurate also. Why delete all of that as well? It will not go unchecked. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 06:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
@TheTimesAreChanging, you will be taken to the administrative board the next time you disrupt this article, undoing citations and links. I see that you are trying to push for an excuse to try and place me into violation by deleting edits, then opening a discussion and then reporting to the board. A formula and tactic that is very obvious. You are in violation of WP rules by deleting such information, and even went and deleted cited information in the etymology section as well. You are avoiding responding to this discussion as well. A report may be in order against you for disruptive and uncalled for edits. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 07:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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Change "The country is currently under the control of the Taliban," to "The country is currently suffering under the tyrannical iron fist of the Taliban regime," Lobx10 ( talk) 00:43, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pashto and Dari are the official languages. CharIieBrownFan ( talk) 04:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Dari and Pashto are the official languages of Afghanistan; bilingualism is very common.ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 11:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I am not sure why this change was rendered. The current terrorist regime of Taliban forced upon Afghans cannot and should not be able to make changes to the Afghan nation that they hold hostage. 198.84.166.52 ( talk) 17:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi, random comment here, currently in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and I must say that I am not being held hostage so.. Noorullah21 ( talk) 19:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
the white and black flag is NOT the afghan flag it’s the taliban flag. it is a flag used by the taliban in both afghanistan and pakistan. the flag of afghanistan is the black red and green flag 🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫
please change the flag back to the flag of afghanistan not the flag of the taliban.
this article is about afghanistan not talibanistan.🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫 2601:280:C77E:6800:528:C1FE:577E:2699 ( talk) 08:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Under 'Development of the Taliban government'
The last sentence of paragraph 1 of this section states that "[the Taliban's] objections to the former government were religious, and not political", however, the source attached to this states the inverse, that "the Taliban objections to the current state and its laws are political, rather than religious."
This sentence should be changed to be consistent with the source, and should read something along these lines: "Many figures within the Taliban generally agreed that continuation of the 2004 Constitution of Afghanistan may, potentially, be workable as the basis for the new state as they emphasized that the Islamic legitimacy of the constitution was linked to its fair and consistent application, and that it relates to freedom from foreign influence. The Taliban objections to the former government were, therefore, political, rather than religious." GenericUsername4 ( talk) 15:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Priban10 ( talk) 16:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
India has a disputed border with Afghanistan as well but Pakistan and China claim it as well.
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At the end of the third paragraph, it is stated "the country fares much worse in terms of per-capita GDP (PPP), ranking 169th out of 186 countriesas of 2018."
"countriesas" appears to be a typo of "countries as" Binzy Boi ( talk) 07:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
The population is not confirmed as there has not been a census data collection for decades. Therefore the percentage of ethnicities are also very political and artificial. 2A02:C7D:EC57:AB00:15A:2A6:48B9:B357 ( talk) 20:45, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Article states Afghanistan is a founding member of the UN ("Afghanistan is prominently rich in natural resources. Those resources include lithium, iron, zinc, and copper, amongst many others. It is also the largest producer of opium.[36] The country is a founding member of the United Nations...") without a source. The UN website does not mention Afghanistan as a founding member, and the UN wikipedia page does not include Afghanistan on its list of founding members. 82.13.149.182 ( talk) 16:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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The practice of Bach’s bazi is barely practiced at the moment and is one relict of the past and it originated in the northern regions of Afghanistan, hence the name bacha bazi يعقوب ځدران ( talk) 21:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
I believe that the practice of bacha bazi is not explained well and correctly, therefore I would say it is necessary to correct it يعقوب ځدران ( talk) 21:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
which is indeed unsourced and out of date. The Taliban have cracked down hard on this practice. I will update it later. ― Tartan357 Talk 21:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)However an ancient tradition involving male homosexual acts between youngsters and older men (typically wealthy or elite people) called bacha bazi persists.
Under section 3.2.1, "Barakzai dynasty and British wars", the second sentence:
"Afghanistan was divided, including the Emirate of Herat centered in the east."
So this sentence's structure and relevance is already questionable but if we want to at least make it less contradictory and confusing, I suggest an edit to:
"Afghanistan was divided, including the Emirate of Herat centered in the west."
Given that Herat is located in the western region of Afghanistan. Probably a simple mistake. BulldogPunch ( talk) 18:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Fakescientist8000: The capital, according to both the Taliban and the Islamic Republic, is Kabul. The Taliban administration is located in Kabul; the cabinet, supreme court, prime minister, and all ministries are located there. I'm assuming you meant to label Kandahar as de facto and Kabul as de jure (you did the opposite, which makes absolutely no sense), because the Leadership Council is located in Kandahar. Without sources calling Kandahar the capital, that is original research. No sources for this already exist in the article, and you did not add any. Also, please take note of MOS:SMALL; small text is not allowed in infoboxes. ― Tartan357 Talk 00:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Afghanistan is located in Central Asia 2600:1700:4A30:B330:D55D:CED3:3F2:8D ( talk) 11:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Afghanistan be listed as Central Asia to specify as its region when searched up. Due to many wrongfully sourcing South Asia for the region of the nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.37.155.47 ( talk) 00:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Tartan357: Hi there,
Tartan357, I hope all has been well recently. I've seen that you have undone my edits on a header for the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (IROA) as shown in
Special:Diff/1107974601. I believe that the header can help anyone who is searching for something about "Afghanistan". Now since Afghanistan directs to this page, and since there was no mentioning of the IROA in this article, I decided to add a link to the IROA. Please let me know if you have questions. Thanks,
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39.40.116.255 ( talk) 23:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Dari change to Persian. Official Language is not a dialect but a primary langauge hence it is requested to be changed/updated. Various articles and sources and historically but also by majority of native population have referred to as Persian, Afghan Persian or Farsi. The usage of referring Persian by its dialect form of name creates confusion towards the public and would make it harder to understand the fact that Persian is an official language of Afghanistan.
References: - [5] - [6] Unidentified7 ( talk) 23:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
this flag can not represent Afghan flag! It should be removed. 84.211.62.190 ( talk) 17:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Wardak 180.222.141.3 ( talk) 07:14, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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HDI data needs to be updated Ly.n0m ( talk) 11:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Why is the HDI 0,681 medium when it’s 0,478, is it bugged? 2001:4644:3D49:0:5C7A:AAFA:622D:AF72 ( talk) 17:52, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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OnlyJustARandomPerson ( talk) 18:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Do I Have Permision To Put An Old Flag Of Afganistan 🇦🇫
consensus in this RfC is to identify the current flag of Afghanistan as that of the Taliban. A new RfC ( Request for Comment) will be required to change this." ~~ lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 18:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC); edited 18:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
When searching on Google 'Afghanistan' no flag shows, instead just the map shows where the flag image is supposed to be. I am not sure why you have not fixed this error yet because when you click on the Wikipedia link it shows the flag there. Please fix this otherwise the country will be Flagless!! Unidentified7 ( talk) 08:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
The second paragraph in the "2021–present Taliban Rule" section of the article is a duplicate of the first paragraph. As I cannot edit the article because of its current protection, could someone else delete that duplicate bit? - ColovianHastur ( talk) 00:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change: On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[214] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[215][216] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[217] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[218] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[220][221] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[222][223] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[225] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[226][227][224]
On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[228] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[229][230] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[231] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[232] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[233][234] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[235][236] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[237] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[238][239][224]
TO: On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[228] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[229][230] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[231] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[232] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[233][234] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[235][236] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[237] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[238][239][224]
WHY: block of text is repeated 129.19.163.254 ( talk) 14:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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This flag doesn’t belong to Afghanistan. The United Nations and all countries of the world use the real flag of Afghanistan, which is black, red, green. This flag belongs to a group called Taliban and cannot cover all of Afghanistan. Afghan army australia ( talk) 05:17, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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The flag in this article is Taliban flag and not Afghanistan flag. the Afghanistan flag colours are black-red-green (from left to right): https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp4056547.jpg Also the name is not correct. "Islamic Emirat of Afghanistan" is the name of Taliban Government. "Islamic republic of Afghanistan" is the correct name as Taliban are not recognised by any other country. 130.180.79.158 ( talk) 11:19, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Q: The flag is wrong!
- A: Since the sole current government of Afghanistan is that of the Taliban, consensus in this RfC is to identify the current flag of Afghanistan as that of the Taliban. A new RfC ( Request for Comment) will be required to change this.
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Afghanistan -> Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Hasan9AgeraR ( talk) 08:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Is Afghanistan in South Asia or in Central Asia (or possibly in the Middle East)? This silly little question has attracted a surprising amount of wiki controversy over the years. I think the current, stable, version of the Afghanistan article gets things right: in the very first sentence it says the country is located at the crossroads of the two regions, and then never comes back to this question again. The other two linked articles devote some more screen space to the issue, and at least one of the two does an alright job of it.
I'm not interested in pursuing any changes here. I've just combed through the talk archives of Afghanistan, South Asia, Cental Asia and the Indian subcontinent articles, and compiled a catalogue of all relevant discussions I've been able to find. The list is as follows (I've excluded the numerous short unanswered edit-request threads, though I've left a few of those for flavour; bld indicates the thread was either particularly extensive or featured a lot of sources):
Notes
I can draw three conclusions from all the stuff above:
I really hope we don't expend any more time and energy on this question. If we do, then I hope the above may serve as a starting point. – Uanfala ( talk) 21:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Given that the Taleban is a Sunni sect, it seems most unlikely that the Iranian (Shia) Solar Hijri calendar is still in use. Surely they have required that the Sunni Lunar Hijri calendar be used. A google search for today's date in Afghanistan returns the Lunar calendar date. Does anybody have an RS citation for the facts on the ground? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 19:47, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the Taliban flag and replace it by the real afghan flag. 142.127.50.39 ( talk) 03:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone! I'd like to bring up the status of Kandahar since the Taliban took over. Because Kandahar is the historical base of the Taliban, many of the institutions of Taliban power are in the city (crucially the Leadership Council and the Supreme Leader himself). Given this, shouldn't Kandahar's position as the locus of real political power in Afghanistan be recognized somewhere, such as in the infobox? Obviously Kabul is the official capital, but it sure seems like the real political power is concentrated in Kandahar. Inspector Semenych ( talk) 01:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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I want to add a main article Geography of Afghanistan#Climate to the Climate section. IntegerSequences ( talk | contribs) 00:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
In the lead section of this article it says that Afghanistan is part of both Central Asia and South Asia, and is commonly included within Central Asia. However, it is only listed on the South Asia article instead of the Central Asia article. If Afghanistan is not included within Central Asia, then should it be removed from the lead? -- Magnatyrannus ( talk | contribs) 20:10, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
As a global platform, Wikipedia must not show the flag of a Terrorist faction as Afghanistan official flag. The official and unanonemously accepted flag is black, red and green 🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫. We kindly request wikipedia's team to be just and official-like. 23.88.196.153 ( talk) 15:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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The reason why I wanted to edit this protected article is to just fix some mistakes written before. I saw few websites say Afghanistan is a Central Asian country. Well, culturally yes but geographically Afghanistan is absolutely located at South Asia and I want to fix that issue. Also the majority of this country are Sunni Muslims. It's not completely Sunni. There are Shia Afghans exist too [1] DTDeniz ( talk) 15:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Well, there is a mistake about geography of Afghanistan. Afghanistan is culturally close to Central Asia and it shares border with three Central Asian countries but geographically, Afghanistan is a South Asian country like Pakistan, India and like others. Sometimes Afghanistan included at Indian Subcontinent so I want to fix that as a South Asian before. [2] [3] [4] DTDeniz ( talk) 04:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
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The flag of Afghanistan needs to be changed 🇦🇫 75.114.201.25 ( talk) 04:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
A terrorist group takes power and imposes its flag and national anthem. There is not a single country in the world that has recognized the regime. So Wikipedia is the first to recognize the flag and the national anthem. It is an insult to the country and its people. If a terrorist group takes power elsewhere in the world, the country's flag and national anthem are changed. If al Shabab takes power in Somalia? 78.71.125.8 ( talk) 22:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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192.181.215.45 ( talk) 14:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
add "Second Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan"
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Put the new flag of Afghanistan on Google. Currently, it is just a picture of the country, not the flag. Other countries have their flags posted. But not Afghanistan. 68.171.177.170 ( talk) 23:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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If you take a look at Pakistan’s Wikipedia page, it states the Middle East and Western Asia. Pakistan is a country that is more further from West Asia or the Middle East. I would suggest to add what it says for Pakistan, regarding the Middle East and Western Asia when Afghanistan has more of historical ties with these regions compared to Pakistan. I would suggest removing it from Pakistan’s Wikipedia to not cause any confusion or disruption, or adding this information to Afghanistan as well. Inaquout ( talk) 15:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Remove this from the introduction as these historical details should be under the country's "history" and not in the introduction of a country's Wikipedia page discussing war outcomes.
Referring to: "British attempted to subjugate Afghanistan but were repelled in the First Anglo-Afghan War. However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence over Afghanistan." 120.150.118.212 ( talk) 10:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
"Following the Third Anglo-Afghan War in 1919, Afghanistan became free of foreign political hegemony, and emerged as the independent Kingdom of Afghanistan in June 1926 under Amanullah Khan."
I said to remove both wars if you read correctly firstly so it doesn’t imply a positive light or negative light. Secondly, I said this can be put under “history” below the page and not in the introduction as it is too big for an introduction. Thirdly, if it is absolutely necessary, it can be condensed into the “Anglo-Afghans Wars” and discuss the end result in one sentence.
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The current symbol in parentheses next to Afghani in the currency section of the infobox just says "Afghani" in Dari. Shouldn't the symbol be used there instead? Either Af or ؋ but not the entire word, no? Wkpdsrnm2023 ( talk) 10:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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I am an Afghan. I cannot accept the current so-called government. Please help me edit "Afghanistan" article and remove the current so-called government name I mean, "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan" to " So-called Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan". We all hate this bad so-called government.It is a fake government. It has invaded our poor country!
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To the Admin Please review the meaning of 'La ilaha illallah' It should be 'There is no God but Allah'
The way you put it doesn't make any sense so please reconsider and add the real meaning of the 'Kalima' 157.32.69.2 ( talk) 04:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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You need to change the flag of the country. The current flag is not the correct flag. You have added the flag of a regime instead of the national flag. Your act is similar to adding the flag of a party instead of the US flag. The country is Afghanistan and just that. Islamic Emirate is the name of the regime (a terrorist one), not the country. You have to correct these mistakes and much more. You have to understand that even small actions like yours strengthen Talibans' hold on power and WIKIPEDIA as a well-known organization should not be a tool for the terrorists. Mak173 ( talk) 14:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Should this be in the infobox as a TLD? There's no source. Wkpdsrnm2023 ( talk) 01:32, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
The capital of the emirate is de jure Kabul but de facto Kandaharː
"Currently, Kandahar enjoys a high status due to the presence of our beloved Mullah Hibatullah Akhundzada. He is our beloved leader and we love him very much. He is our leader, he has the power of a King. So it's only natural that he should give orders and advice. He has authority over all ministries. All his orders, all his decrees, emanate from here, from Kandahar. The same applies in Afghanistan. This system of government suits and pleases the Afghans". - Statement by Ayatollah Mubarak (Deputy-Governor of Kandahar) in an Arte interview. Source ː "Afghanistan : le vrai visage des talibans | ARTE Reportage" Tarek lb ( talk) 11:00, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
The list of provinces in alphabetical order at Governance >> Administrative divisions needs to be fixed. Cornelius ( talk) 01:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The United Nations currently recognizes the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan as the government of Afghanistan instead of the de facto ruling government, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Fix this error, as the UN does not recognize the Islamic Emirate as of right not and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is not a member of the UN. DavidMDCXI ( talk) 13:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
I’ve witnessed that in most the census indicates that Hazara ethnic group makeup 10-15% population of Afghanistan. In such authentic census like the ones which is punished in UK Parliament. Reference: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/11165/pdf TalibHassani006 ( talk) 15:45, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
@ 25stargeneral Hey, so per my recent addition about opium production (with source: [7]), it seems it has been slashed quite a lot. This Wikipedia Article still has mentions though that Afghanistan is the world's largest opium producer. Is it best to keep it like so? Noorullah ( talk) 23:42, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Afghanistan supplies about 80% of the world’s opiates, according to UNODC. While the recent decline in poppy production is unlikely to immediately affect the world’s heroin supply, as farmers and traffickers have stockpiles of both harvested crops and manufactured drugs, a prolonged ban could hit global supply and push prices up.
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change "Afghans are divided into several ethnolinguistic groups. Off of sociological research data by The Asia Foundation in 2019, the Pashtuns are the largest ethnic group, comprising 39%, followed by Tajiks, comprising 37%.[296] of the country's population. The other two major ethnic groups are the Hazaras and Uzbeks. A further 10 other ethnic groups are recognized and each are represented in the Afghan National Anthem.[297]"
to "Afghans are divided into several ethnolinguistic groups. According to research data by several institutions in 2019, the Pashtuns are the largest ethnic group, comprising 42%, followed by Tajiks, comprising 27% [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] of the country's population. The other two major ethnic groups are the Hazaras and Uzbeks, each at 9%. A further 10 other ethnic groups are recognized and each are represented in the Afghan National Anthem."
The polls from The Asia Foundation tend to overestimate the number of Tajiks in comparison to impartial or unbiased estimations from other institutions (as high as 37%, while most other estimations place their number around 20 [9]-27% [10], most recently in 2023 along with the Hazara, Aimak and other native Dari speakers at 32.1% [11]. Also the number of Pashtuns in The Asia Foundation polls gets underestimated thoroughly, with the other institution's most pessimistic estimates being at around 40% in 1996 [12] and the most optimistic around 52.4% in 2023 [13]. So the middle ground should be the 2019 unofficial estimate which is also to be found in the infobox under "Ethnic groups". }} SdHb ( talk) 12:50, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the geography section where borders with other countries are discussed change "....China to northeast" to "....China to far northeast" it will give a better insight of the border system as northeast part is designated to Tajikistan. Thank You. KSCeltic ( talk) 06:12, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Kandahar is the de facto Taliban capital, now as well as in 1996-'01 (both articles are wrong) 2402:8100:3973:AFCC:BC15:A429:CC53:CA98 ( talk) 15:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Afghanistan is in Central Asia 2baran ( talk) 17:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Why is the Taliban flag put there? Is it Wikipedia's policy to always have de facto information ratjer than de iure because not a single nation recognizes that flag. 2A05:4F44:20B:1D00:7833:8606:C489:5EDE ( talk) 00:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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The Motto translation in the infobox should be "There is no god but Allah, ..." as the meaning of لا إله إلا الله، محمد رسول الله. The word Allah even can be found in notable online dictionaries such as here and here. Could you please consider the notable sources I have provided? Myacc748239 ( talk) 13:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
We can not get bogged down in debating the meanings of individual words or come to our own conclusions as to how the words in the motto should be translated. The only thing that matters is how the whole phrase is translated into English by Reliable Sources. I've had a quick look and, while it seems that both phrases are used, "There is no god but God" is the more common one. As such, there is no compelling argument to change it in the article. The linking of "God" in the translation is more than sufficient to clarify the meaning for any readers who might be confused. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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The population in the lead needs clarification. Why is there a 7 million discrepancy? Why is one value an "official" estimate (one source is in a foreign language, so I can't edit this myself). – Zfish118⋉ talk 09:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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Taliban are not officially recognized by any country 83.171.171.85 ( talk) 01:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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I think you made a mistake because the flag you using is for a terrorist group named Taliban, not Afghanistan. (🇦🇫)This is the Afghanistan flag and I see that using the Taliban flag is totally wrong since the original flag has a lot of history behind it and it represents the country unlike the Taliban flag which only bring painful memory To those who were forced to leave their beloved country because of these terrorist. 37.104.134.136 ( talk) 22:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
@ Cortador None of the other sources you cited are supporting what you appear to have said, only the guardian which states "The data suggests Afghanistan has become one of very few countries worldwide where more women than men die by suicide."
Which also says that the figures are partial. All in all, it would not be appropriate to add this in until it can be properly attributed to. This also would not be relevant on this page either I believe. Instead, it would make better sense to add this to the page Treatment of women by the Taliban if any updates occur. Noorullah ( talk) 00:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Source 42 is a site that references a better citation, https://www.unodc.org/doc/wdr2016/WDR_2016_Chapter_1_Cannabis.pdf
but it says that Afghanistan is the second largest producer of cannabis *resin*, not cannabis in general. The information should be updated and the better source used. Froggerxxx ( talk) 19:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did you change the color of the flag when ours has 🇦🇫 three colors and this white 🏳️flag is associated with a movement or political party rather than a nation? I request you, as an Afghan-American, to raise the authentic three-color flag over here. 2601:204:D180:A940:42D:6EF2:6432:D1B8 ( talk) 03:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Some infidel replaced the flag with some Arabic scribbles. 199.7.156.236 ( talk) 22:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Change “ However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence over Afghanistan” to political stalemate as the result as the British failed their objective to maintain a British resident in Kabul. Source provided - https://branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=zarena-aslami-the-second-anglo-afghan-war-or-the-return-of-the-uninvited and https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/1443. Napolean33 ( talk) 16:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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I would suggest to add in the section of "Geography" on Afghanistan the 6.3 magnitude earthquake that occured October 8, 2023 that killed more than 2,000 people. The epicenter of the earthquake is on Herat. 2405:8D40:4066:55EC:178B:F9BD:C402:5864 ( talk) 10:04, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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The population numbers in the summary are confusing. I propose the following change for clarity:
− | + | According to the World Population review, as of 2021 Afghanistan's population is 40.2 million. The National Statistics Information Authority of Afghanistan estimated the population to be 32.9 million as of 2020. |
Mark20044 ( talk) 18:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
With the significant changes made in the education sector of Afghanistan, much of this section is outdated. I'd be happy to begin updating this section if given the permissions.
For example, it says "Over 174,000 students are enrolled in different universities around the country. About 21% of these are females." The reference it gives for the 21% is from 2017, long before women were banned.
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@ 25stargeneral Wanted to bring this up again. If you recall I did a similar post here a while back, and it seems an official U.N report has given data for opium production now. [15]
"According to the Afghanistan Opium Survey 2023, released by the agency on Sunday, the supply of opium declined by an estimated 95 per cent, falling from 6,200 tons in 2022 to 333 tons in 2023, corresponding to a fall in the area under cultivation, from 233,000 hectares to just 10,800 hectares over the same period."
This would drop it from its position as the first opium producer in the world, putting Myanmar at first. (per these showing what Myanmar produced) [16] [17]
"In 2022, the area under opium poppy cultivation in Myanmar was estimated at 40,100 hectares. This estimate is 33 per cent – about 10,000 hectares – more than in 2021, reversing the downward trend that started in 2014." [18]
National potential opium production in 2022 was estimated to be about 790 metric tonnes. Though this estimate is still below a recent peak in 2013 of 870 metric tonnes, it is nearly double the estimates for 2020 of around 400 metric tonnes, which represented the nadir of a recent historic downward trend. [19] Noorullah ( talk) 06:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Borrowed from Classical Persian افغان (afğān, “Afghan”), from Bactrian αβαγανο (abagano), first attested in the fourth century CE, most likely a compound of *apāka- (“distant, faraway”), from Proto-Iranian *Hapá, from Proto-Indo-Iranian *Hapá (“away”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂epó + *-āna (“ethnic group”), from Proto-Indo-European *-nós, thus: "people from a distant land". Various scholars have proposed Sanskrit etymologies since the nineteenth century (especially prior to the 2007 publication of earlier Bactrian attestations for the word), but linguist Johnny Cheung notes that these are "extremely difficult to reconcile" with recent evidence pointing to a Bactrian source.
Johnny Cheung (2017), “On the Origin of the Terms "Afghan" & "Pashtun" (Again)”, in Enrico Morano, Elio Provasi & Adriano V. Rossi, editors, , Rome, Italy: Scienze e Lettere, →ISBN, pages 31—51 37.65.8.47 ( talk) 23:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change لا إله إلا الله، محمد رسول الله to لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ، مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ: Adding tashkeel (diacritical marks) to make the motto more clear and concise Mododge16 ( talk) 01:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
De facto Afghanistan got many links to the Middle East both historically, culturally and geographically. I think it's fair to say Afghanistan is at the crossroads of West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. All three, not just Central Asia and South Asia. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:F0D7:5A73:115E:BA24 ( talk) 15:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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104.171.248.240 ( talk) 15:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Please correct the Afghan Flag on this page. Wikipedia supposed to be a reliable source of information, not fake news. That shown flag does not represent 45+ million Afghans. It represent only %1 of the people living on the land.
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In the infobox section, more specifically government, add “one party state”, seeing as the Taliban (the ruling party of Afghanistan) has banned all political parties leaving only it the legal party of Afghanistan.
Source to support my claim: [21] TheLibyanGuy ( talk) 22:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
China sent an ambassador in Sept, not yet formal recognition. -- Voidvector ( talk) 05:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Which Wiki-terrorist changed Afghanistan's real flag to Taliban's flag? No country in this world acknowledges the Taliban as Afghanistan's government. So why does Wikipedia legitimize the Taliban by changing Afghanistan's flag to theirs? The wikipedia page must CHANGE to the ORIGINAL flag. If people want to search for a quick look on information about Afghanistan, they should not be MISINFORMED, thinking the national flag is the Taliban's shahada flag. Caxapn ( talk) 00:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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The population counts are wrong, as of Macro Trends, Afghanistan's population is 43 million(2024) Awesomeboy122 ( talk) 13:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
In the intro, please change “However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence.” to “However, the second Anglo-Afghan War” ended with the Treat of Gandamak which allowed British to control Afghanistan’s foreign affairs.”
sources stating a “political stalemate” of a sort did occur:
https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/1443
https://branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=zarena-aslami-the-second-anglo-afghan-war-or-the-return-of-the-uninvited Dunki2024 ( talk) 18:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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I want to edit this article to explain about how the country has been worsened since the takeover of the Taliban. Akaganhamilton1 ( talk) 00:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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the afghanistan flag is wrong 2A02:C7C:98FB:2E00:6DFB:C9AD:3343:77F8 ( talk) 16:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, there is a red link in the passage of the afghanistan article. I was wondering if you guys could fix it, here is the part of the article: According to the World Bank, 98% of the rural population have access to electricity in 2018, up from 28% in 2008.[422] Overall the figure stands at 98.7%.[423] As of 2016, Afghanistan produces 1,400 megawatts of power, but still imports the majority of electricity via transmission lines from Iran and the Central Asian states.[424] The majority of electricity production is via hydropower, helped by the amount of rivers and streams that flow from the mountains.[425] However electricity is not always reliable and blackouts happen, including in Kabul.[426] In recent years an increasing number of solar, biomass and wind power plants have been constructed.[427] Currently under development are the CASA-1000 project which will transmit electricity from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, and the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline.[426] Power is managed by the Da Afghanistan Breshna Sherkat (DABS, Afghanistan Electricity Company).
Important dams include the Kajaki Dam, Dahla Dam, and the Sardeh Band Dam.[264]
I would love it if you guys could change the misleading link. Please and thank you. Awesomeboy122 ( talk) 13:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Redlinks are used for topics which are sufficiently notable that an article SHOULD be written about them, but that article does not yet exist. Leaving them in place is Wikipedia policy. See:
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Under the section regarding the Barakzai dynasty and British wars, Abdur Rahman Khan, the "Iron Amir" is quoted as saying: "How can a small power like Afghanistan, which is like a goat between these lions [Britain and Russia] or a grain of wheat between two strong millstones of the grinding mill, [could] stand in the midway of the stones without being ground to dust?. The insertion of "[could]" is unnecessary and grammatically incorrect, as the sentence already begins with "how can". Additionally, conjugating the verb to "could" does not match the structure of the sentence, making it incorrect even without the inclusion of "how can". KingDeadCo ( talk) 18:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the infobox list of ethnic groups, "other" is not capitalized whilst every other group in the list is. Please capitalize for coherence. EmpressArtemis ( talk) 21:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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Population: 43,372,950 (2024) based on this website https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/afghanistan-population/ Rank: 36 ZakiFrahmnd1 ( talk) 03:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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Location of error to correct: Section: Development of Taliban government; 3rd paragraph; 4th sentence. Change "... over an executive body known Supreme Council..." to "... over an executive body known as the Supreme Council..." by adding "known as" after "body". Goman1 ( talk) 22:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Pashtuns are 65% not 42. Please change! 2607:FEA8:4D60:590:6CE7:A786:1188:5BD5 ( talk) 05:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I read the discussions about the flag, and the shallow counter comments. However this is the point where we need to differentiate at least on a website between forced government and chosen one. This is case is still so fresh and the wounds of hundreds and thousands of afghans are still bleeding. I could count many other examples where articles on this platform were adjusted rightfully by morals and basic human senses. When we write about murders we write MURDERS even though the murder might state that he/she isn‘t one because we cannot accept whatever someone claims. We judge by their actions. Therefore the editors and creators of this post should not acknowledge a flag that stands for an organization that killed, r*ped and tortured so many people. While the people within Afghanistan cannot wish for their old flag we can at least represent them rightfully in a god damn article. The taliban are a terrorizing Organisation…please change immediately, I will not stop . Saly161616 ( talk) 17:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a separate Wikipedia page about the HDI of regions in Afghanistan including the average HDI. This data is as of this year. Perhaps the HDI for Afghanistan should be updated. 84.49.127.81 ( talk) 06:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Looking at the Goegraphy->Biodiversity section, there is a claim that Siberian Tigers are present in Afghanistan. This conflicts with the Siberian Tiger Wikipedia page that lists the present range as nowhere near Afghanistan. The single source used for this paragraph says, "The snow leopard, perhaps a rare Siberian Tiger, and brown bears occur…" I think it's a stretch to list Siberian Tigers without additional sources and/or substantial caveats. Alex.c.beveridge ( talk) 20:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Why is Wikipedia using this flag as the official flag of Afghanistan? Not a single country recognize this flag as the flag of Afghanistan. Why is Wikipedia different on these issues when it comes to Crimea. More countries recognize Crimea as part of Russia than recognize the current Afghan government. Yasarhossain07 ( talk) 20:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Taraki death has incorrect month. He was assassinated in October 1979, not September (the Afghanistan article says September): Nur Muhammad Taraki Uráli001 ( talk) 14:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Please fit that Afghanistan is not in South Asia but both Central and South Asia with MOST of it in Central Asia. Also, the man from Pakistan who declared himself president cannot officially change the flag. Please put the original red, black, and green flag.
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The current official flag is still the black, red and green one. The terrorists have not been legitimised nor acknowledged by any country. Puting up the terrorist flag as the country’s legitimate flag is spreading false information. Also the majority of the ethnic tribes living in this land are central asian tribes. Afghanistan has always been a central asian country. This needs to be corrected in this page as well. Also the offical language of afghanistan is FARSI. The term dari is a political term made up in the 60’s by a pashtun politican to seperate people. That doesn’t change the fact that the language spoken is FARSI/ PERSIAN. Again, spreading false information. EsmaFaqeeri ( talk) 21:52, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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The first bit needs to be changed. Afghanistan has always been considered to be a crossroad between the Middle east, Central asia and South asia. Only south asians themselves consider afghanistan to be south asian. Afghans consider themselves to either be middle eastern or Central Asian. Afg.7777 ( talk) 19:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Mullah Abdul Ghani Brader Baheer Pathaan ( talk) 22:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Based on population and the percentage people speak specified language, Persian (Dari) must be first and then followed by pashto and other languages. This is a rule and does not relate to favourism. Zaki Frahmand, 13 May 2022, 22:22 UTC
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I request for a change in the flag of Afghanistan. This is Afghanistans flag🇦🇫 and it should be respected, thus it should be put in the picture for Afghanistan and it's inhabitants. 2A01:C23:7587:3C00:A528:CEF8:4D39:C9C1 ( talk) 18:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
WatanWatan2020, who previously
inaccurately stated that
"Afghanistan has been described as one of the most wealthiest countries in the world," is now insisting (
[2],
[3],
[4]) that "The nation has raised and had maintained one of the most powerful militaries in the world throughout its history, at one point, having the Royal Afghan Air Force infamous for being as large and as capable of its time"
(whatever that is supposed to mean), citing
Small Wars Journal. Unfortunately,
Small Wars Journal does not support a statement even remotely resembling WatanWatan2020's proposed addition.
For starters, the cited article only addresses the
Afghan Air Force (formed in the early twentieth century), not any other branches of the
Military of Afghanistan, as one might have expected given its title ("The Afghan Air Force: A Harsh Lesson in the Expensive Game of Airpower Reconstruction"). Furthermore, the cited article makes clear that the Afghan Air Force was not a significant regional power during the reign of the
Kingdom of Afghanistan—directly contradicting WatanWatan2020's proposed addition—has been historically dependent on foreign assistance, and was reduced to a "feeble"
shell of its former self by the
Afghan Civil War (1992–1996) following an unprecedented expansion during the era of the
Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (subsidized by the
Soviet Union). To wit:
First formed in 1924 by King Amanullah Khan with British and Soviet assistance, the Afghan Air Force would not reach the height of its power until the 1979 Soviet invasion. At one point, the AAF consisted of 400 aircraft and 7,000 active personnel, making it one of the largest air forces in Asia. After the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, the AAF, still heavily dependent on foreign support, lost its leading supplier of parts and maintenance personnel. During the ensuing civil conflict, the warring factions scavenged most AAF assets. By the time the Taliban took over in 1996, many of the remaining aircraft were useless, lacking spare parts and people with the skills to maintain them. In the early days of Operation Enduring Freedom, American airstrikes destroyed what was left of the feeble air force.
Notably, the rest of the cited article is devoted to chronicling a huge litany of problems with the Afghan Air Force under the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The author concludes that the U.S. totally failed to rebuild and modernize the Afghan Air Force:
Between 2008 and 2021, the United States spent approximately $8 billion to train and equip the Afghan Air Force. Unlike Iraq, where the U.S.-trained Iraqi Air Force is on a slow rise back to regional prominence, the U.S. has little to show for its investment in Afghanistan, even before the Taliban takeover. ... The United States should consider Afghanistan a case study for what not to do in any future attempts to rebuild or modernize partner nation air forces.
Having examined the cited article in context, it is clear that WatanWatan2020's assertion that "[Afghanistan] has raised and had maintained one of the most powerful militaries in the world throughout its history"
is inaccurate if not utterly surreal. This user's continued edit warring over such a clear-cut violation of
WP:V in a
topic area subject to discretionary sanctions is alarming, and calls into question the user's
competence and
fidelity to Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission.
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Hello, with the amount of complaining that is taking place, especially by @TheTimesAreChanging, you can put that effort into using your time to deal with a specific matter that you take issue you with in the paragraph, instead of deleting an entire paragraph with links and sources. I have seen your edit history, and it seems that you go around undoing mass edits because you do not put in the effort to deal with one specific matter. You do not reserve that right, nor the other editor, @LaundryPizza03 of doing such a thing. This is violation of multiple wikipedia rules for you to remove cited information, with links. It is outrageous and uncalled for that you remove cited information, but more than that, an entire paragraph, because you take issue with one sentence in it. That cannot fly. The citation is in there. You can propose how it is to be reworded. The Afghan Air force was indeed one of the largest and most capable air forces of its time, as the source mentions. and by extension the military overall was one of the most equipped and capable, in other words, most powerful. To point out again, one does not have that right to remove an entire paragraph because of an issue with a sentence within it. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 03:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
I have re-worded that sentence, although it was fine previously as well. This should come as a lesson to the @TheTimesAreChanging that you may not go around and undo mass paragraphs and edits because you are not capable of dealing with one specific sentence. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 03:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
"The Afghan Air force was indeed one of the largest and most capable air forces of its time, as the source mentions. and by extension the military overall was one of the most equipped and capable, in other words, most powerful."Again, we've literally gone through the source that you provided, paragraph-by-paragraph, and demonstrated that it does not say anything of the kind. You have not provided a quote from that source (or any other source) to substantiate your claim that
"The nation has raised and had maintained one of the most equipped militaries in the world throughout its history,"probably because no sources exist for such a ludicrous assertion. Continuing to reinstate this inaccurate content in violation of Wikipedia's sourcing policies in a topic area subject to discretionary sanctions will almost certainly result in a block or ban. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 06:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Your ego is quite out of control. Did you go ahead and address the idea that you do not reserve the right to delete an entire paragraph because you take issue with one sentence within it? It is actually a better time to start enforcing your edits, that you take pleasure in of undoing across a mass of pages throughout wikipedia. Do not undo edits with links and citations. You have been doing that across multiple pages that includes sources and citations, just because it seems to you that you do not like it. All other information within the paragraph is accurate also. Why delete all of that as well? It will not go unchecked. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 06:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
@TheTimesAreChanging, you will be taken to the administrative board the next time you disrupt this article, undoing citations and links. I see that you are trying to push for an excuse to try and place me into violation by deleting edits, then opening a discussion and then reporting to the board. A formula and tactic that is very obvious. You are in violation of WP rules by deleting such information, and even went and deleted cited information in the etymology section as well. You are avoiding responding to this discussion as well. A report may be in order against you for disruptive and uncalled for edits. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 07:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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Change "The country is currently under the control of the Taliban," to "The country is currently suffering under the tyrannical iron fist of the Taliban regime," Lobx10 ( talk) 00:43, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Pashto and Dari are the official languages. CharIieBrownFan ( talk) 04:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Dari and Pashto are the official languages of Afghanistan; bilingualism is very common.ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 11:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I am not sure why this change was rendered. The current terrorist regime of Taliban forced upon Afghans cannot and should not be able to make changes to the Afghan nation that they hold hostage. 198.84.166.52 ( talk) 17:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi, random comment here, currently in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and I must say that I am not being held hostage so.. Noorullah21 ( talk) 19:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
the white and black flag is NOT the afghan flag it’s the taliban flag. it is a flag used by the taliban in both afghanistan and pakistan. the flag of afghanistan is the black red and green flag 🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫
please change the flag back to the flag of afghanistan not the flag of the taliban.
this article is about afghanistan not talibanistan.🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫 2601:280:C77E:6800:528:C1FE:577E:2699 ( talk) 08:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Under 'Development of the Taliban government'
The last sentence of paragraph 1 of this section states that "[the Taliban's] objections to the former government were religious, and not political", however, the source attached to this states the inverse, that "the Taliban objections to the current state and its laws are political, rather than religious."
This sentence should be changed to be consistent with the source, and should read something along these lines: "Many figures within the Taliban generally agreed that continuation of the 2004 Constitution of Afghanistan may, potentially, be workable as the basis for the new state as they emphasized that the Islamic legitimacy of the constitution was linked to its fair and consistent application, and that it relates to freedom from foreign influence. The Taliban objections to the former government were, therefore, political, rather than religious." GenericUsername4 ( talk) 15:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Priban10 ( talk) 16:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
India has a disputed border with Afghanistan as well but Pakistan and China claim it as well.
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At the end of the third paragraph, it is stated "the country fares much worse in terms of per-capita GDP (PPP), ranking 169th out of 186 countriesas of 2018."
"countriesas" appears to be a typo of "countries as" Binzy Boi ( talk) 07:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
The population is not confirmed as there has not been a census data collection for decades. Therefore the percentage of ethnicities are also very political and artificial. 2A02:C7D:EC57:AB00:15A:2A6:48B9:B357 ( talk) 20:45, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Article states Afghanistan is a founding member of the UN ("Afghanistan is prominently rich in natural resources. Those resources include lithium, iron, zinc, and copper, amongst many others. It is also the largest producer of opium.[36] The country is a founding member of the United Nations...") without a source. The UN website does not mention Afghanistan as a founding member, and the UN wikipedia page does not include Afghanistan on its list of founding members. 82.13.149.182 ( talk) 16:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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The practice of Bach’s bazi is barely practiced at the moment and is one relict of the past and it originated in the northern regions of Afghanistan, hence the name bacha bazi يعقوب ځدران ( talk) 21:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
I believe that the practice of bacha bazi is not explained well and correctly, therefore I would say it is necessary to correct it يعقوب ځدران ( talk) 21:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
which is indeed unsourced and out of date. The Taliban have cracked down hard on this practice. I will update it later. ― Tartan357 Talk 21:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)However an ancient tradition involving male homosexual acts between youngsters and older men (typically wealthy or elite people) called bacha bazi persists.
Under section 3.2.1, "Barakzai dynasty and British wars", the second sentence:
"Afghanistan was divided, including the Emirate of Herat centered in the east."
So this sentence's structure and relevance is already questionable but if we want to at least make it less contradictory and confusing, I suggest an edit to:
"Afghanistan was divided, including the Emirate of Herat centered in the west."
Given that Herat is located in the western region of Afghanistan. Probably a simple mistake. BulldogPunch ( talk) 18:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Fakescientist8000: The capital, according to both the Taliban and the Islamic Republic, is Kabul. The Taliban administration is located in Kabul; the cabinet, supreme court, prime minister, and all ministries are located there. I'm assuming you meant to label Kandahar as de facto and Kabul as de jure (you did the opposite, which makes absolutely no sense), because the Leadership Council is located in Kandahar. Without sources calling Kandahar the capital, that is original research. No sources for this already exist in the article, and you did not add any. Also, please take note of MOS:SMALL; small text is not allowed in infoboxes. ― Tartan357 Talk 00:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Afghanistan is located in Central Asia 2600:1700:4A30:B330:D55D:CED3:3F2:8D ( talk) 11:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Afghanistan be listed as Central Asia to specify as its region when searched up. Due to many wrongfully sourcing South Asia for the region of the nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.37.155.47 ( talk) 00:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Tartan357, I hope all has been well recently. I've seen that you have undone my edits on a header for the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (IROA) as shown in
Special:Diff/1107974601. I believe that the header can help anyone who is searching for something about "Afghanistan". Now since Afghanistan directs to this page, and since there was no mentioning of the IROA in this article, I decided to add a link to the IROA. Please let me know if you have questions. Thanks,
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39.40.116.255 ( talk) 23:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Dari change to Persian. Official Language is not a dialect but a primary langauge hence it is requested to be changed/updated. Various articles and sources and historically but also by majority of native population have referred to as Persian, Afghan Persian or Farsi. The usage of referring Persian by its dialect form of name creates confusion towards the public and would make it harder to understand the fact that Persian is an official language of Afghanistan.
References: - [5] - [6] Unidentified7 ( talk) 23:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
this flag can not represent Afghan flag! It should be removed. 84.211.62.190 ( talk) 17:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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HDI data needs to be updated Ly.n0m ( talk) 11:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Why is the HDI 0,681 medium when it’s 0,478, is it bugged? 2001:4644:3D49:0:5C7A:AAFA:622D:AF72 ( talk) 17:52, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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OnlyJustARandomPerson ( talk) 18:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Do I Have Permision To Put An Old Flag Of Afganistan 🇦🇫
consensus in this RfC is to identify the current flag of Afghanistan as that of the Taliban. A new RfC ( Request for Comment) will be required to change this." ~~ lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 18:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC); edited 18:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
When searching on Google 'Afghanistan' no flag shows, instead just the map shows where the flag image is supposed to be. I am not sure why you have not fixed this error yet because when you click on the Wikipedia link it shows the flag there. Please fix this otherwise the country will be Flagless!! Unidentified7 ( talk) 08:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
The second paragraph in the "2021–present Taliban Rule" section of the article is a duplicate of the first paragraph. As I cannot edit the article because of its current protection, could someone else delete that duplicate bit? - ColovianHastur ( talk) 00:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change: On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[214] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[215][216] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[217] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[218] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[220][221] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[222][223] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[225] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[226][227][224]
On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[228] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[229][230] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[231] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[232] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[233][234] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[235][236] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[237] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[238][239][224]
TO: On 14 April 2021, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had agreed to start withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan by 1 May.[228] Soon after the withdrawal of NATO troops started, the Taliban launched an offensive against the Afghan government, quickly advancing in front of collapsing Afghan government forces.[229][230] On 15 August 2021, as the Taliban once again controlled a vast majority of Afghan territory, they re-captured the capital city of Kabul, and many civilians, government officials and foreign diplomats were evacuated.[231] President Ghani fled Afghanistan that day.[232] As of 16 August 2021, an unofficial Coordination Council led by senior statesmen was in the process of coordinating the transfer of the state institutions of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to the Taliban.[219] On 17 August, the First Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Amrullah Saleh, proclaimed himself the caretaker President of Afghanistan and announced the formation of an anti-Taliban front with a reported 6,000+ troops[233][234] in the Panjshir Valley, along with Ahmad Massoud.[235][236] However, on 6 September, the Taliban took control of most of the Panjshir province, with resistance fighters retreating to the mountains to continue fighting within the province.[224] Fights in the valley ceased mid-September,[237] while resistance leaders Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud fled to neighboring Tajikistan.[238][239][224]
WHY: block of text is repeated 129.19.163.254 ( talk) 14:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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This flag doesn’t belong to Afghanistan. The United Nations and all countries of the world use the real flag of Afghanistan, which is black, red, green. This flag belongs to a group called Taliban and cannot cover all of Afghanistan. Afghan army australia ( talk) 05:17, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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The flag in this article is Taliban flag and not Afghanistan flag. the Afghanistan flag colours are black-red-green (from left to right): https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp4056547.jpg Also the name is not correct. "Islamic Emirat of Afghanistan" is the name of Taliban Government. "Islamic republic of Afghanistan" is the correct name as Taliban are not recognised by any other country. 130.180.79.158 ( talk) 11:19, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Q: The flag is wrong!
- A: Since the sole current government of Afghanistan is that of the Taliban, consensus in this RfC is to identify the current flag of Afghanistan as that of the Taliban. A new RfC ( Request for Comment) will be required to change this.
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Afghanistan -> Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Hasan9AgeraR ( talk) 08:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Is Afghanistan in South Asia or in Central Asia (or possibly in the Middle East)? This silly little question has attracted a surprising amount of wiki controversy over the years. I think the current, stable, version of the Afghanistan article gets things right: in the very first sentence it says the country is located at the crossroads of the two regions, and then never comes back to this question again. The other two linked articles devote some more screen space to the issue, and at least one of the two does an alright job of it.
I'm not interested in pursuing any changes here. I've just combed through the talk archives of Afghanistan, South Asia, Cental Asia and the Indian subcontinent articles, and compiled a catalogue of all relevant discussions I've been able to find. The list is as follows (I've excluded the numerous short unanswered edit-request threads, though I've left a few of those for flavour; bld indicates the thread was either particularly extensive or featured a lot of sources):
Notes
I can draw three conclusions from all the stuff above:
I really hope we don't expend any more time and energy on this question. If we do, then I hope the above may serve as a starting point. – Uanfala ( talk) 21:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Given that the Taleban is a Sunni sect, it seems most unlikely that the Iranian (Shia) Solar Hijri calendar is still in use. Surely they have required that the Sunni Lunar Hijri calendar be used. A google search for today's date in Afghanistan returns the Lunar calendar date. Does anybody have an RS citation for the facts on the ground? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 19:47, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Remove the Taliban flag and replace it by the real afghan flag. 142.127.50.39 ( talk) 03:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone! I'd like to bring up the status of Kandahar since the Taliban took over. Because Kandahar is the historical base of the Taliban, many of the institutions of Taliban power are in the city (crucially the Leadership Council and the Supreme Leader himself). Given this, shouldn't Kandahar's position as the locus of real political power in Afghanistan be recognized somewhere, such as in the infobox? Obviously Kabul is the official capital, but it sure seems like the real political power is concentrated in Kandahar. Inspector Semenych ( talk) 01:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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I want to add a main article Geography of Afghanistan#Climate to the Climate section. IntegerSequences ( talk | contribs) 00:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
In the lead section of this article it says that Afghanistan is part of both Central Asia and South Asia, and is commonly included within Central Asia. However, it is only listed on the South Asia article instead of the Central Asia article. If Afghanistan is not included within Central Asia, then should it be removed from the lead? -- Magnatyrannus ( talk | contribs) 20:10, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
As a global platform, Wikipedia must not show the flag of a Terrorist faction as Afghanistan official flag. The official and unanonemously accepted flag is black, red and green 🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫. We kindly request wikipedia's team to be just and official-like. 23.88.196.153 ( talk) 15:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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The reason why I wanted to edit this protected article is to just fix some mistakes written before. I saw few websites say Afghanistan is a Central Asian country. Well, culturally yes but geographically Afghanistan is absolutely located at South Asia and I want to fix that issue. Also the majority of this country are Sunni Muslims. It's not completely Sunni. There are Shia Afghans exist too [1] DTDeniz ( talk) 15:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Well, there is a mistake about geography of Afghanistan. Afghanistan is culturally close to Central Asia and it shares border with three Central Asian countries but geographically, Afghanistan is a South Asian country like Pakistan, India and like others. Sometimes Afghanistan included at Indian Subcontinent so I want to fix that as a South Asian before. [2] [3] [4] DTDeniz ( talk) 04:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
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The flag of Afghanistan needs to be changed 🇦🇫 75.114.201.25 ( talk) 04:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
A terrorist group takes power and imposes its flag and national anthem. There is not a single country in the world that has recognized the regime. So Wikipedia is the first to recognize the flag and the national anthem. It is an insult to the country and its people. If a terrorist group takes power elsewhere in the world, the country's flag and national anthem are changed. If al Shabab takes power in Somalia? 78.71.125.8 ( talk) 22:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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192.181.215.45 ( talk) 14:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
add "Second Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan"
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Put the new flag of Afghanistan on Google. Currently, it is just a picture of the country, not the flag. Other countries have their flags posted. But not Afghanistan. 68.171.177.170 ( talk) 23:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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If you take a look at Pakistan’s Wikipedia page, it states the Middle East and Western Asia. Pakistan is a country that is more further from West Asia or the Middle East. I would suggest to add what it says for Pakistan, regarding the Middle East and Western Asia when Afghanistan has more of historical ties with these regions compared to Pakistan. I would suggest removing it from Pakistan’s Wikipedia to not cause any confusion or disruption, or adding this information to Afghanistan as well. Inaquout ( talk) 15:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Remove this from the introduction as these historical details should be under the country's "history" and not in the introduction of a country's Wikipedia page discussing war outcomes.
Referring to: "British attempted to subjugate Afghanistan but were repelled in the First Anglo-Afghan War. However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence over Afghanistan." 120.150.118.212 ( talk) 10:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
"Following the Third Anglo-Afghan War in 1919, Afghanistan became free of foreign political hegemony, and emerged as the independent Kingdom of Afghanistan in June 1926 under Amanullah Khan."
I said to remove both wars if you read correctly firstly so it doesn’t imply a positive light or negative light. Secondly, I said this can be put under “history” below the page and not in the introduction as it is too big for an introduction. Thirdly, if it is absolutely necessary, it can be condensed into the “Anglo-Afghans Wars” and discuss the end result in one sentence.
Regards.
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The current symbol in parentheses next to Afghani in the currency section of the infobox just says "Afghani" in Dari. Shouldn't the symbol be used there instead? Either Af or ؋ but not the entire word, no? Wkpdsrnm2023 ( talk) 10:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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I am an Afghan. I cannot accept the current so-called government. Please help me edit "Afghanistan" article and remove the current so-called government name I mean, "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan" to " So-called Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan". We all hate this bad so-called government.It is a fake government. It has invaded our poor country!
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To the Admin Please review the meaning of 'La ilaha illallah' It should be 'There is no God but Allah'
The way you put it doesn't make any sense so please reconsider and add the real meaning of the 'Kalima' 157.32.69.2 ( talk) 04:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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You need to change the flag of the country. The current flag is not the correct flag. You have added the flag of a regime instead of the national flag. Your act is similar to adding the flag of a party instead of the US flag. The country is Afghanistan and just that. Islamic Emirate is the name of the regime (a terrorist one), not the country. You have to correct these mistakes and much more. You have to understand that even small actions like yours strengthen Talibans' hold on power and WIKIPEDIA as a well-known organization should not be a tool for the terrorists. Mak173 ( talk) 14:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Should this be in the infobox as a TLD? There's no source. Wkpdsrnm2023 ( talk) 01:32, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
The capital of the emirate is de jure Kabul but de facto Kandaharː
"Currently, Kandahar enjoys a high status due to the presence of our beloved Mullah Hibatullah Akhundzada. He is our beloved leader and we love him very much. He is our leader, he has the power of a King. So it's only natural that he should give orders and advice. He has authority over all ministries. All his orders, all his decrees, emanate from here, from Kandahar. The same applies in Afghanistan. This system of government suits and pleases the Afghans". - Statement by Ayatollah Mubarak (Deputy-Governor of Kandahar) in an Arte interview. Source ː "Afghanistan : le vrai visage des talibans | ARTE Reportage" Tarek lb ( talk) 11:00, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
The list of provinces in alphabetical order at Governance >> Administrative divisions needs to be fixed. Cornelius ( talk) 01:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The United Nations currently recognizes the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan as the government of Afghanistan instead of the de facto ruling government, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Fix this error, as the UN does not recognize the Islamic Emirate as of right not and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is not a member of the UN. DavidMDCXI ( talk) 13:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
I’ve witnessed that in most the census indicates that Hazara ethnic group makeup 10-15% population of Afghanistan. In such authentic census like the ones which is punished in UK Parliament. Reference: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/11165/pdf TalibHassani006 ( talk) 15:45, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
@ 25stargeneral Hey, so per my recent addition about opium production (with source: [7]), it seems it has been slashed quite a lot. This Wikipedia Article still has mentions though that Afghanistan is the world's largest opium producer. Is it best to keep it like so? Noorullah ( talk) 23:42, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Afghanistan supplies about 80% of the world’s opiates, according to UNODC. While the recent decline in poppy production is unlikely to immediately affect the world’s heroin supply, as farmers and traffickers have stockpiles of both harvested crops and manufactured drugs, a prolonged ban could hit global supply and push prices up.
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change "Afghans are divided into several ethnolinguistic groups. Off of sociological research data by The Asia Foundation in 2019, the Pashtuns are the largest ethnic group, comprising 39%, followed by Tajiks, comprising 37%.[296] of the country's population. The other two major ethnic groups are the Hazaras and Uzbeks. A further 10 other ethnic groups are recognized and each are represented in the Afghan National Anthem.[297]"
to "Afghans are divided into several ethnolinguistic groups. According to research data by several institutions in 2019, the Pashtuns are the largest ethnic group, comprising 42%, followed by Tajiks, comprising 27% [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] of the country's population. The other two major ethnic groups are the Hazaras and Uzbeks, each at 9%. A further 10 other ethnic groups are recognized and each are represented in the Afghan National Anthem."
The polls from The Asia Foundation tend to overestimate the number of Tajiks in comparison to impartial or unbiased estimations from other institutions (as high as 37%, while most other estimations place their number around 20 [9]-27% [10], most recently in 2023 along with the Hazara, Aimak and other native Dari speakers at 32.1% [11]. Also the number of Pashtuns in The Asia Foundation polls gets underestimated thoroughly, with the other institution's most pessimistic estimates being at around 40% in 1996 [12] and the most optimistic around 52.4% in 2023 [13]. So the middle ground should be the 2019 unofficial estimate which is also to be found in the infobox under "Ethnic groups". }} SdHb ( talk) 12:50, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the geography section where borders with other countries are discussed change "....China to northeast" to "....China to far northeast" it will give a better insight of the border system as northeast part is designated to Tajikistan. Thank You. KSCeltic ( talk) 06:12, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Kandahar is the de facto Taliban capital, now as well as in 1996-'01 (both articles are wrong) 2402:8100:3973:AFCC:BC15:A429:CC53:CA98 ( talk) 15:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Afghanistan is in Central Asia 2baran ( talk) 17:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Why is the Taliban flag put there? Is it Wikipedia's policy to always have de facto information ratjer than de iure because not a single nation recognizes that flag. 2A05:4F44:20B:1D00:7833:8606:C489:5EDE ( talk) 00:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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The Motto translation in the infobox should be "There is no god but Allah, ..." as the meaning of لا إله إلا الله، محمد رسول الله. The word Allah even can be found in notable online dictionaries such as here and here. Could you please consider the notable sources I have provided? Myacc748239 ( talk) 13:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
We can not get bogged down in debating the meanings of individual words or come to our own conclusions as to how the words in the motto should be translated. The only thing that matters is how the whole phrase is translated into English by Reliable Sources. I've had a quick look and, while it seems that both phrases are used, "There is no god but God" is the more common one. As such, there is no compelling argument to change it in the article. The linking of "God" in the translation is more than sufficient to clarify the meaning for any readers who might be confused. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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The population in the lead needs clarification. Why is there a 7 million discrepancy? Why is one value an "official" estimate (one source is in a foreign language, so I can't edit this myself). – Zfish118⋉ talk 09:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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Taliban are not officially recognized by any country 83.171.171.85 ( talk) 01:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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I think you made a mistake because the flag you using is for a terrorist group named Taliban, not Afghanistan. (🇦🇫)This is the Afghanistan flag and I see that using the Taliban flag is totally wrong since the original flag has a lot of history behind it and it represents the country unlike the Taliban flag which only bring painful memory To those who were forced to leave their beloved country because of these terrorist. 37.104.134.136 ( talk) 22:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
@ Cortador None of the other sources you cited are supporting what you appear to have said, only the guardian which states "The data suggests Afghanistan has become one of very few countries worldwide where more women than men die by suicide."
Which also says that the figures are partial. All in all, it would not be appropriate to add this in until it can be properly attributed to. This also would not be relevant on this page either I believe. Instead, it would make better sense to add this to the page Treatment of women by the Taliban if any updates occur. Noorullah ( talk) 00:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Source 42 is a site that references a better citation, https://www.unodc.org/doc/wdr2016/WDR_2016_Chapter_1_Cannabis.pdf
but it says that Afghanistan is the second largest producer of cannabis *resin*, not cannabis in general. The information should be updated and the better source used. Froggerxxx ( talk) 19:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did you change the color of the flag when ours has 🇦🇫 three colors and this white 🏳️flag is associated with a movement or political party rather than a nation? I request you, as an Afghan-American, to raise the authentic three-color flag over here. 2601:204:D180:A940:42D:6EF2:6432:D1B8 ( talk) 03:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Some infidel replaced the flag with some Arabic scribbles. 199.7.156.236 ( talk) 22:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Change “ However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence over Afghanistan” to political stalemate as the result as the British failed their objective to maintain a British resident in Kabul. Source provided - https://branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=zarena-aslami-the-second-anglo-afghan-war-or-the-return-of-the-uninvited and https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/1443. Napolean33 ( talk) 16:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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I would suggest to add in the section of "Geography" on Afghanistan the 6.3 magnitude earthquake that occured October 8, 2023 that killed more than 2,000 people. The epicenter of the earthquake is on Herat. 2405:8D40:4066:55EC:178B:F9BD:C402:5864 ( talk) 10:04, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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The population numbers in the summary are confusing. I propose the following change for clarity:
− | + | According to the World Population review, as of 2021 Afghanistan's population is 40.2 million. The National Statistics Information Authority of Afghanistan estimated the population to be 32.9 million as of 2020. |
Mark20044 ( talk) 18:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
With the significant changes made in the education sector of Afghanistan, much of this section is outdated. I'd be happy to begin updating this section if given the permissions.
For example, it says "Over 174,000 students are enrolled in different universities around the country. About 21% of these are females." The reference it gives for the 21% is from 2017, long before women were banned.
FropFrop ( talk) 06:12, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
@ 25stargeneral Wanted to bring this up again. If you recall I did a similar post here a while back, and it seems an official U.N report has given data for opium production now. [15]
"According to the Afghanistan Opium Survey 2023, released by the agency on Sunday, the supply of opium declined by an estimated 95 per cent, falling from 6,200 tons in 2022 to 333 tons in 2023, corresponding to a fall in the area under cultivation, from 233,000 hectares to just 10,800 hectares over the same period."
This would drop it from its position as the first opium producer in the world, putting Myanmar at first. (per these showing what Myanmar produced) [16] [17]
"In 2022, the area under opium poppy cultivation in Myanmar was estimated at 40,100 hectares. This estimate is 33 per cent – about 10,000 hectares – more than in 2021, reversing the downward trend that started in 2014." [18]
National potential opium production in 2022 was estimated to be about 790 metric tonnes. Though this estimate is still below a recent peak in 2013 of 870 metric tonnes, it is nearly double the estimates for 2020 of around 400 metric tonnes, which represented the nadir of a recent historic downward trend. [19] Noorullah ( talk) 06:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Borrowed from Classical Persian افغان (afğān, “Afghan”), from Bactrian αβαγανο (abagano), first attested in the fourth century CE, most likely a compound of *apāka- (“distant, faraway”), from Proto-Iranian *Hapá, from Proto-Indo-Iranian *Hapá (“away”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂epó + *-āna (“ethnic group”), from Proto-Indo-European *-nós, thus: "people from a distant land". Various scholars have proposed Sanskrit etymologies since the nineteenth century (especially prior to the 2007 publication of earlier Bactrian attestations for the word), but linguist Johnny Cheung notes that these are "extremely difficult to reconcile" with recent evidence pointing to a Bactrian source.
Johnny Cheung (2017), “On the Origin of the Terms "Afghan" & "Pashtun" (Again)”, in Enrico Morano, Elio Provasi & Adriano V. Rossi, editors, , Rome, Italy: Scienze e Lettere, →ISBN, pages 31—51 37.65.8.47 ( talk) 23:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change لا إله إلا الله، محمد رسول الله to لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ، مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ: Adding tashkeel (diacritical marks) to make the motto more clear and concise Mododge16 ( talk) 01:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
De facto Afghanistan got many links to the Middle East both historically, culturally and geographically. I think it's fair to say Afghanistan is at the crossroads of West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. All three, not just Central Asia and South Asia. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:F0D7:5A73:115E:BA24 ( talk) 15:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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104.171.248.240 ( talk) 15:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Please correct the Afghan Flag on this page. Wikipedia supposed to be a reliable source of information, not fake news. That shown flag does not represent 45+ million Afghans. It represent only %1 of the people living on the land.
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In the infobox section, more specifically government, add “one party state”, seeing as the Taliban (the ruling party of Afghanistan) has banned all political parties leaving only it the legal party of Afghanistan.
Source to support my claim: [21] TheLibyanGuy ( talk) 22:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
China sent an ambassador in Sept, not yet formal recognition. -- Voidvector ( talk) 05:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Which Wiki-terrorist changed Afghanistan's real flag to Taliban's flag? No country in this world acknowledges the Taliban as Afghanistan's government. So why does Wikipedia legitimize the Taliban by changing Afghanistan's flag to theirs? The wikipedia page must CHANGE to the ORIGINAL flag. If people want to search for a quick look on information about Afghanistan, they should not be MISINFORMED, thinking the national flag is the Taliban's shahada flag. Caxapn ( talk) 00:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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The population counts are wrong, as of Macro Trends, Afghanistan's population is 43 million(2024) Awesomeboy122 ( talk) 13:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
In the intro, please change “However, the Second Anglo-Afghan War saw a British victory and the successful establishment of British political influence.” to “However, the second Anglo-Afghan War” ended with the Treat of Gandamak which allowed British to control Afghanistan’s foreign affairs.”
sources stating a “political stalemate” of a sort did occur:
https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/1443
https://branchcollective.org/?ps_articles=zarena-aslami-the-second-anglo-afghan-war-or-the-return-of-the-uninvited Dunki2024 ( talk) 18:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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I want to edit this article to explain about how the country has been worsened since the takeover of the Taliban. Akaganhamilton1 ( talk) 00:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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the afghanistan flag is wrong 2A02:C7C:98FB:2E00:6DFB:C9AD:3343:77F8 ( talk) 16:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, there is a red link in the passage of the afghanistan article. I was wondering if you guys could fix it, here is the part of the article: According to the World Bank, 98% of the rural population have access to electricity in 2018, up from 28% in 2008.[422] Overall the figure stands at 98.7%.[423] As of 2016, Afghanistan produces 1,400 megawatts of power, but still imports the majority of electricity via transmission lines from Iran and the Central Asian states.[424] The majority of electricity production is via hydropower, helped by the amount of rivers and streams that flow from the mountains.[425] However electricity is not always reliable and blackouts happen, including in Kabul.[426] In recent years an increasing number of solar, biomass and wind power plants have been constructed.[427] Currently under development are the CASA-1000 project which will transmit electricity from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, and the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline.[426] Power is managed by the Da Afghanistan Breshna Sherkat (DABS, Afghanistan Electricity Company).
Important dams include the Kajaki Dam, Dahla Dam, and the Sardeh Band Dam.[264]
I would love it if you guys could change the misleading link. Please and thank you. Awesomeboy122 ( talk) 13:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Redlinks are used for topics which are sufficiently notable that an article SHOULD be written about them, but that article does not yet exist. Leaving them in place is Wikipedia policy. See:
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Under the section regarding the Barakzai dynasty and British wars, Abdur Rahman Khan, the "Iron Amir" is quoted as saying: "How can a small power like Afghanistan, which is like a goat between these lions [Britain and Russia] or a grain of wheat between two strong millstones of the grinding mill, [could] stand in the midway of the stones without being ground to dust?. The insertion of "[could]" is unnecessary and grammatically incorrect, as the sentence already begins with "how can". Additionally, conjugating the verb to "could" does not match the structure of the sentence, making it incorrect even without the inclusion of "how can". KingDeadCo ( talk) 18:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the infobox list of ethnic groups, "other" is not capitalized whilst every other group in the list is. Please capitalize for coherence. EmpressArtemis ( talk) 21:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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Population: 43,372,950 (2024) based on this website https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/afghanistan-population/ Rank: 36 ZakiFrahmnd1 ( talk) 03:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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Location of error to correct: Section: Development of Taliban government; 3rd paragraph; 4th sentence. Change "... over an executive body known Supreme Council..." to "... over an executive body known as the Supreme Council..." by adding "known as" after "body". Goman1 ( talk) 22:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Pashtuns are 65% not 42. Please change! 2607:FEA8:4D60:590:6CE7:A786:1188:5BD5 ( talk) 05:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I read the discussions about the flag, and the shallow counter comments. However this is the point where we need to differentiate at least on a website between forced government and chosen one. This is case is still so fresh and the wounds of hundreds and thousands of afghans are still bleeding. I could count many other examples where articles on this platform were adjusted rightfully by morals and basic human senses. When we write about murders we write MURDERS even though the murder might state that he/she isn‘t one because we cannot accept whatever someone claims. We judge by their actions. Therefore the editors and creators of this post should not acknowledge a flag that stands for an organization that killed, r*ped and tortured so many people. While the people within Afghanistan cannot wish for their old flag we can at least represent them rightfully in a god damn article. The taliban are a terrorizing Organisation…please change immediately, I will not stop . Saly161616 ( talk) 17:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a separate Wikipedia page about the HDI of regions in Afghanistan including the average HDI. This data is as of this year. Perhaps the HDI for Afghanistan should be updated. 84.49.127.81 ( talk) 06:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Looking at the Goegraphy->Biodiversity section, there is a claim that Siberian Tigers are present in Afghanistan. This conflicts with the Siberian Tiger Wikipedia page that lists the present range as nowhere near Afghanistan. The single source used for this paragraph says, "The snow leopard, perhaps a rare Siberian Tiger, and brown bears occur…" I think it's a stretch to list Siberian Tigers without additional sources and/or substantial caveats. Alex.c.beveridge ( talk) 20:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Why is Wikipedia using this flag as the official flag of Afghanistan? Not a single country recognize this flag as the flag of Afghanistan. Why is Wikipedia different on these issues when it comes to Crimea. More countries recognize Crimea as part of Russia than recognize the current Afghan government. Yasarhossain07 ( talk) 20:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Taraki death has incorrect month. He was assassinated in October 1979, not September (the Afghanistan article says September): Nur Muhammad Taraki Uráli001 ( talk) 14:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)