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I did not reinstate disputed material. The disputed material was an unqualified statement that Johnson has seven children (and was tagged as such), despite multiple reliable sources stating that he has "at least" seven children. The disputed material was reinstated by User:DeFacto and User:Czello Cortador ( talk) 17:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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Hello @ MarcoSilvaUK. I'm happy to have a chat. Do you have means to be contacted? I found your Twitter profile, but was unable to DM you as I'm not verified. Cortador ( talk) 14:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi @ Cortador. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Please email me via my personal page ( Special:EmailUser/MarcoSilvaUK) and we'll take it from there. Much appreciated. MarcoSilvaUK ( talk) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
@ MarcoSilvaUK Done. Cortador ( talk) 14:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

"Hi!" - Please: Use the Informations i gave, instead revert all generally, thankyou! I don't have the time & the knowledge to do the things here as you want, "sorry!". Gentle: Hungchaka ( talk) 17:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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This edit summary includes a quite explicit assumption of bad faith. The editor already said their edit was based on a specific and expressed reasoning, but you directly imply that their real reasoning was something else "you not liking them". You are a generally good editor and I do not wish to see you get zucked. Please take this as a friendly but vigorous encouragement to stop those kinds of comments, in ES or on talk, right away. Cambial foliar❧ 12:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Czello has displayed disruptive behaviour in the past e.g. false accusations of three-revert rule breaks. I can only give people so much benefit. Cortador ( talk) 06:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
Are you still on this? It's been months, and you were edit warring, several times, as you continue to do. Let it go. — Czello ( music) 07:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
I see you have moved from a break of the three-edit rule to just "edit warring" to hide the fact that your accusations were fabricated. Also, since you apparently monitor my talk page (as evident by you replying to a comment you weren't even tagged in within minutes), I don't think you should be talking about anyone's inability to move on. Cortador ( talk) 07:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
Your talk page is still on my watchlist after the previous times I've had to warn you about edit warring. I've not had to "fabricate" a reason to do so: you must be aware of the fact you have a habit of edit warring ideologies into infoboxes when you don't have consensus. — Czello ( music) 08:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
And you talk about not being able to let go. Well, have fun with whatever obsession you have with me. Cortador ( talk) 08:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Financial ties to Russian oligarchs

Kia ora @ Cortador. Just want to say thanks again for restoring the edits I made to the page for the Conservative Party (UK). As you can see here, the user Czello left me a message threatening to block me, after I tried reaching out to him to get him to come to the talk page. Bit irritiating. Aubernas ( talk) 10:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC) reply

@ AubernasNo problem. I think it would have been more productive if anyone had actually voiced any specific issues they had with the addition, but none of the other editors did that. Cortador ( talk) 18:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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Note although this is a 3rr warning the page is (in fact) under 1RR, you have reverted more than once. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

@ SlaterstevenThe page states: "You must follow the bold-revert-discuss cycle if your change is reverted. You may not reinstate your edit until you post a talk page message discussing your edit and have waited 24 hours from the time of this talk page message." The BRD page in turn states: "When reverting, be specific about your reasons in the edit summary and use links if needed. Look at the article's history and its talk page to see if a discussion has begun. If not, you may begin one."
Emphasis mine. None of the users who reverted the edit have a given a sufficient reason, and none have bothered to post a reply on the talk page. You are the ones engaging in edit warring by reverting edits while not following what a BRD cycle asks for. Cortador ( talk) 12:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
You only posted that talk page discussion today. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Because nobody had bothered to give a reason for the reverts. I expect a good-faith effort when edits are reverted. Cortador ( talk) 12:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
"This was added yesterday and needs to be discussed if added. Reversion was correct" is a reason. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
No addition requires a discussion just because, not even articles about contentious topics. If you want a discussion, give a reason why you think that information doesn't belong in the first sentence of the lead. Cortador ( talk) 12:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

My last word here, you have been warned, if you revert again I will report you. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I suggest you take a good look at WP:BOOMERANG then. Cortador ( talk) 13:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi Cortador, regarding this talk page discussion that you have started, could you add a proposal for specific wording to be added into the article? Having closed the previous discussion as without consensus, I believe it would lead to a more lasting outcome if specific text was proposed to be included in the article, which can then be approved or rejected by consensus. Thank you. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 21:12, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Onetwothreeip The specific wording should be: "Vivek Ramaswamy is a climate change denier".
That said, I disagree with there being no consensus. Consensus should be formed on arguments made, and the no side has failed to demonstrate why Ramaswamy shouldn't not have this label, and/or didn't bring up sources that deny that he is a climate change denier. Cortador ( talk) 07:11, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Thanks, you can commence a new RfC which includes that suggested wording, along with the paragraph it would be contained in. However, an explicit description as "climate change denier" did not gain consensus, as discussion participants were not convinced that the sources you provided adequately support the proposed description, so you may wish to propose an alternative description to gain consensus. On volume I would have determined that there was consensus against, but I considered there to be roughly equal weight between the arguments. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
RfC aren't decided by majority vote. I didn't see anyone bring up sources that deny that Ramaswamy is a denier, so to be honest, I don't see how you came to the conclusion that there was equal weight between arguments. Cortador ( talk) 08:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
It's not about sources refuting the ones you provided, it's about how editors have interpreted the sources. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 08:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
There's nothing to interpret. The source are clear. Only one editor had an issue with them, stating that two are biased, which isn't sufficient grounds to reject them.
Also, the "No" have provided no sources whatsoever. Cortador ( talk) 13:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply


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  1. ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs blocked bid to sign up to code stopping sexual harassment". The Independent. Retrieved 2023-11-14.
  2. ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs 'resisted' attempt by David Cameron to make them sign code of conduct safeguarding staff against sexual harassment". The Independent.

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Republican party article

I empathize with your positions here, and I see that we agree on certain issues. I think your time will be better served avoiding the back and forth with other editors. I can certainly relate to your frustrations, but sometimes the best thing to do is to disengage if you know it's not likely to have any effect on swaying opinion or increasing consensus. Let's focus on improving the Far right section and try to keep it condensed down to what is DUE, with a few short sentences. We have a good start, we just need to be patient and open minded. Cheers. DN ( talk) 20:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I'll be open-minded if I can see the same from others. All I get with these reverts are a bunch of links and no explanation. Both Springee and Muboshgu have claimed that GOP support for GRCT is a minority viewpoint, and both have failed to back that up with anything. Cortador ( talk) 14:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I really don't see much point in going back and forth with Springee. I think you should both disengage for a bit. I'm happy to work with you, so if you just want to use me as your sounding board I'm happy to act as a buffer until things calm down. Cheers. DN ( talk) 19:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Just a quick suggestion. I would not try to hold any other editor's hands and explain policies or walk them through justifications, at least not more than once. Sometimes it's OK to stop engaging if an editor clearly and simply can't or won't acknowledge things. Constantly going back and forth on tangents tends to distract from where the discussion is supposed to go. Focus on your arguments and which sources say what, and how it affects the article. Avoid discussions that tend to end up in WP:BATTLE and WP:LAWYER territory. Not that you are doing anything wrong, I also struggle with these issues myself, but I wanted to let you know that sort of thing happens, and can create unnecessary stress. I like to remind myself I do not control consensus, I simply abide by it. Cheers. DN ( talk) 23:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The tag isn't appropriate so there's nothing to replace it with. If you disagree, fine, but take it to the talk page and/or bring in an RfC &c. to show me how wrong I am. In any case, if there's an issue with any fact in the article, tag that but it is cited, so "needs cites" is definitely the wrong template for whatever the problem is you see.

(For Mount Qianliyan, btw, yeah, fair enough. There are cites on that article but, yeah, they should be replaced with a higher quality source so the template fits, kinda. For Qianliyan Island, no, they're journalistic and scholarly sources already and there's no actual problem with them as far as I can see. You're welcome to explain the issue on the talk page, ofc.) —  LlywelynII 17:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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Request reason:

I did not reinstate disputed material. The disputed material was an unqualified statement that Johnson has seven children (and was tagged as such), despite multiple reliable sources stating that he has "at least" seven children. The disputed material was reinstated by User:DeFacto and User:Czello Cortador ( talk) 17:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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You were edit warring on that biography. The block is clearly necessary. PhilKnight ( talk) 18:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply


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Hi Cortador. My name is Marco Silva and I am a senior journalist with BBC News in London. I noticed how much you contributed to the article about Sultan Al Jaber. Is there any chance we can chat in private? I have a couple of questions for you about this article and about the editing work you have been doing. To be crystal clear: I am not looking for an interview, just an off-the-record chat. Please let me know your thoughts when you have a moment. Many thanks. MarcoSilvaUK ( talk) 14:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello @ MarcoSilvaUK. I'm happy to have a chat. Do you have means to be contacted? I found your Twitter profile, but was unable to DM you as I'm not verified. Cortador ( talk) 14:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi @ Cortador. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Please email me via my personal page ( Special:EmailUser/MarcoSilvaUK) and we'll take it from there. Much appreciated. MarcoSilvaUK ( talk) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
@ MarcoSilvaUK Done. Cortador ( talk) 14:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

"Hi!" - Please: Use the Informations i gave, instead revert all generally, thankyou! I don't have the time & the knowledge to do the things here as you want, "sorry!". Gentle: Hungchaka ( talk) 17:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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September 2023

This edit summary includes a quite explicit assumption of bad faith. The editor already said their edit was based on a specific and expressed reasoning, but you directly imply that their real reasoning was something else "you not liking them". You are a generally good editor and I do not wish to see you get zucked. Please take this as a friendly but vigorous encouragement to stop those kinds of comments, in ES or on talk, right away. Cambial foliar❧ 12:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Czello has displayed disruptive behaviour in the past e.g. false accusations of three-revert rule breaks. I can only give people so much benefit. Cortador ( talk) 06:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
Are you still on this? It's been months, and you were edit warring, several times, as you continue to do. Let it go. — Czello ( music) 07:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
I see you have moved from a break of the three-edit rule to just "edit warring" to hide the fact that your accusations were fabricated. Also, since you apparently monitor my talk page (as evident by you replying to a comment you weren't even tagged in within minutes), I don't think you should be talking about anyone's inability to move on. Cortador ( talk) 07:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
Your talk page is still on my watchlist after the previous times I've had to warn you about edit warring. I've not had to "fabricate" a reason to do so: you must be aware of the fact you have a habit of edit warring ideologies into infoboxes when you don't have consensus. — Czello ( music) 08:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply
And you talk about not being able to let go. Well, have fun with whatever obsession you have with me. Cortador ( talk) 08:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Financial ties to Russian oligarchs

Kia ora @ Cortador. Just want to say thanks again for restoring the edits I made to the page for the Conservative Party (UK). As you can see here, the user Czello left me a message threatening to block me, after I tried reaching out to him to get him to come to the talk page. Bit irritiating. Aubernas ( talk) 10:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC) reply

@ AubernasNo problem. I think it would have been more productive if anyone had actually voiced any specific issues they had with the addition, but none of the other editors did that. Cortador ( talk) 18:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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Note although this is a 3rr warning the page is (in fact) under 1RR, you have reverted more than once. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

@ SlaterstevenThe page states: "You must follow the bold-revert-discuss cycle if your change is reverted. You may not reinstate your edit until you post a talk page message discussing your edit and have waited 24 hours from the time of this talk page message." The BRD page in turn states: "When reverting, be specific about your reasons in the edit summary and use links if needed. Look at the article's history and its talk page to see if a discussion has begun. If not, you may begin one."
Emphasis mine. None of the users who reverted the edit have a given a sufficient reason, and none have bothered to post a reply on the talk page. You are the ones engaging in edit warring by reverting edits while not following what a BRD cycle asks for. Cortador ( talk) 12:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
You only posted that talk page discussion today. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Because nobody had bothered to give a reason for the reverts. I expect a good-faith effort when edits are reverted. Cortador ( talk) 12:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
"This was added yesterday and needs to be discussed if added. Reversion was correct" is a reason. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
No addition requires a discussion just because, not even articles about contentious topics. If you want a discussion, give a reason why you think that information doesn't belong in the first sentence of the lead. Cortador ( talk) 12:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

My last word here, you have been warned, if you revert again I will report you. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

I suggest you take a good look at WP:BOOMERANG then. Cortador ( talk) 13:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi Cortador, regarding this talk page discussion that you have started, could you add a proposal for specific wording to be added into the article? Having closed the previous discussion as without consensus, I believe it would lead to a more lasting outcome if specific text was proposed to be included in the article, which can then be approved or rejected by consensus. Thank you. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 21:12, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Onetwothreeip The specific wording should be: "Vivek Ramaswamy is a climate change denier".
That said, I disagree with there being no consensus. Consensus should be formed on arguments made, and the no side has failed to demonstrate why Ramaswamy shouldn't not have this label, and/or didn't bring up sources that deny that he is a climate change denier. Cortador ( talk) 07:11, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Thanks, you can commence a new RfC which includes that suggested wording, along with the paragraph it would be contained in. However, an explicit description as "climate change denier" did not gain consensus, as discussion participants were not convinced that the sources you provided adequately support the proposed description, so you may wish to propose an alternative description to gain consensus. On volume I would have determined that there was consensus against, but I considered there to be roughly equal weight between the arguments. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
RfC aren't decided by majority vote. I didn't see anyone bring up sources that deny that Ramaswamy is a denier, so to be honest, I don't see how you came to the conclusion that there was equal weight between arguments. Cortador ( talk) 08:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
It's not about sources refuting the ones you provided, it's about how editors have interpreted the sources. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 08:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply
There's nothing to interpret. The source are clear. Only one editor had an issue with them, stating that two are biased, which isn't sufficient grounds to reject them.
Also, the "No" have provided no sources whatsoever. Cortador ( talk) 13:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC) reply


Source titles

In this edit, you added a source [1] but the title you added in the "title=" parameter does not match the title actually used in the source. [2] Repeatedly doing this could be construed as disruptive. Please take care to accurately reflect the content and titles of sources in the references. Cheers. Cambial foliar❧ 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC) reply


References

  1. ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs blocked bid to sign up to code stopping sexual harassment". The Independent. Retrieved 2023-11-14.
  2. ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs 'resisted' attempt by David Cameron to make them sign code of conduct safeguarding staff against sexual harassment". The Independent.

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Cortador, I know you have been given a contentious topics warning. Please avoid commenting on editors as you have been doing in our recent discussions. When you shift from commenting on my arguments to commenting on my understandings you are no longer WP:FOC. Springee ( talk) 12:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Republican party article

I empathize with your positions here, and I see that we agree on certain issues. I think your time will be better served avoiding the back and forth with other editors. I can certainly relate to your frustrations, but sometimes the best thing to do is to disengage if you know it's not likely to have any effect on swaying opinion or increasing consensus. Let's focus on improving the Far right section and try to keep it condensed down to what is DUE, with a few short sentences. We have a good start, we just need to be patient and open minded. Cheers. DN ( talk) 20:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I'll be open-minded if I can see the same from others. All I get with these reverts are a bunch of links and no explanation. Both Springee and Muboshgu have claimed that GOP support for GRCT is a minority viewpoint, and both have failed to back that up with anything. Cortador ( talk) 14:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I really don't see much point in going back and forth with Springee. I think you should both disengage for a bit. I'm happy to work with you, so if you just want to use me as your sounding board I'm happy to act as a buffer until things calm down. Cheers. DN ( talk) 19:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Just a quick suggestion. I would not try to hold any other editor's hands and explain policies or walk them through justifications, at least not more than once. Sometimes it's OK to stop engaging if an editor clearly and simply can't or won't acknowledge things. Constantly going back and forth on tangents tends to distract from where the discussion is supposed to go. Focus on your arguments and which sources say what, and how it affects the article. Avoid discussions that tend to end up in WP:BATTLE and WP:LAWYER territory. Not that you are doing anything wrong, I also struggle with these issues myself, but I wanted to let you know that sort of thing happens, and can create unnecessary stress. I like to remind myself I do not control consensus, I simply abide by it. Cheers. DN ( talk) 23:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The tag isn't appropriate so there's nothing to replace it with. If you disagree, fine, but take it to the talk page and/or bring in an RfC &c. to show me how wrong I am. In any case, if there's an issue with any fact in the article, tag that but it is cited, so "needs cites" is definitely the wrong template for whatever the problem is you see.

(For Mount Qianliyan, btw, yeah, fair enough. There are cites on that article but, yeah, they should be replaced with a higher quality source so the template fits, kinda. For Qianliyan Island, no, they're journalistic and scholarly sources already and there's no actual problem with them as far as I can see. You're welcome to explain the issue on the talk page, ofc.) —  LlywelynII 17:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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