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Does anyone here know the correct formatting of a Pakistani name? Specifically, I wrote a stub for Rabiah Jamil Beg. When I went to add her to the List of Pakistani journalists I realized that the names there were listed in a variety of ways (alphabetically). The List of Pakistani actresses seems to be alphabetical by what a westerner would consider first name. I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 19:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
I was reading the page about Louise Varèse and I found this notice: Collection: Louise Varèse papers | Smith College Finding Aids". findingaids.smith.edu. Retrieved 2020-07-14. This article incorporates text available under the CC BY 3.0 license. Out of curiosity, something changed in the last months? since what I was told when I was using the same sources (the Biographical content of the Finding Aids of Papers at university website) was that CC 3.0 wasn't allow on Wikipedia (only Public Domain was allowed, that I think is CC0). -- Elisa.rolle ( talk) 09:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, she should be notable. Anyone up for writing at least something quick about her? She has plenty of coverage (50K ghits in English alone; I didn't check in Welsh), holds a Guiness World Record, has been awarded an OBE, etc. Right now, Dilys Price is a redirect to Fireman Sam#Townspeople and I think that's a shame. (I'd do the article myself, but I have 30 days left to turn in my thesis ":D") - Yupik ( talk) 05:43, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm really not much of an article creator anymore, but, frankly, the creator of the title role of a notable opera lacked an article? Well, that cannot stand! Any improvements would be appreciated. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 00:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Is https://www.denelezh.org/ not working? I am using Google Chrome and for a few days it keeps saying ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED. Hanif Al Husaini ( talk) 02:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC) @ Envlh:-- Ipigott ( talk) 07:56, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, can anyone help out here? I had to delete this unsourced BLP, but I won't object if anyone re-writes it. Dennis Brown has helpfully found a few sources. See here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to introduce a new user to this WikiProject and also ask if someone could mentor her since she's newer to editing. The user is Iacornflake and she's working on the draft Draft:Carolyn Lawrence-Dill. Full disclosure, there is a conflict of interest here but Iacornflake is going about this the right way. She just needs some guidance when it comes to editing science biographies. She's very interested in editing science related articles and about women in science in particular, so I honestly couldn't post here fast enough to try and woo her to our awesome WikiProject!
Welcome Iacornflake! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 05:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Woohoo! Thanks for the help and encouragement, folks! I'll do what I can to fix up that first submission, then get better engaged here. Yay! Iacornflake ( talk) 00:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
When searching Wikidata to link Jane Powell (stage actress) to the relevant QID, I discovered that an English Wikipedia article already exists in the name of Mrs Powell. The content of the new article needs to be incorporated in the 2015 article and then a redirect created. Oronsay ( talk) 22:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Maria Bakalova, currently a redirect.
Have not been able to find her on other-language Wikipedias using a Cyrillic-characters search, but someone who can read Bulgarian may well find more biographical info in that language. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone lend a hand at Michelle Sagara? She's an author, with an article that seems to be heavily edited by someone with a COI. I've removed the most obvious promotional content, but it basically reads like a fanpage or a bookstore page - and I'm not sure if all the book prose should be scrapped or not (since it currently makes up most of the article). - Whisperjanes ( talk) 20:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, anyone willing to have a look at the draft for Yimon Aye before I resubmit it again? Many thanks! Cheers, Quaenuncabibis ( talk) 08:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Those of you who have an hour or so to spare might like to spend it on What We Know And Can Agree On: Wikipedia At 20 by Simon Garfield which appeared on the Esquire site on 20 October. It includes a few interesting titbits from Katherine Maher on the need to expand coverage of women, e.g. "She is proud that women gather frequently for day-long editathons to improve this figure, and flags up the site’s recent focus on improving and expanding articles concerning women’s health and the history of the black diaspora."-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Those who enjoyed reading Garfield's article might also like to take a look at some of the items included in Wikipedia @ 20. Particularly pertinent to the interests of Women in Red is Toward a Wikipedia For and From Us All by Adele Godoy Vrana ( AVrana (WMF)), Anasuya Sengupta ( ASengupta (WMF)), and Siko Bouterse ( Siko (WMF)). And our many librarians might like Wikipedia and Libraires by Phoebe Ayers ( Phoebe) which among other things addresses "systemic bias". There'll probably be many more taking stock of Wikipedia's first 20 years between now and mid-January. Maybe we should start a list of those of interest to Women in Red.-- Ipigott ( talk) 09:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Also well worthwhile reading is Wikipedia Has a Bias Problem by Jackie Koerner ( Jackiekoerner) with lots of creative suggestions, summed up by "If there is any hope for truly achieving the sum of all human knowledge, the next chapter in Wikipedia’s life needs to meaningfully address the inequities perpetuated by bias."-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
There's four new images relevant to us. From Women in Red articles (both passing):
From.... how the hell did her article only appear in 2016, and thus be relevant to our project?
And from "Potentially full of Women in Red" (now an FP):
I suspect Verdi's adopted daughter, Maria Carrara Verdi (sources vary a bit as to her name thanks to marriage and adoption and all) is most likely to be relevant, possibly Giuditta Ricordi (Giulio Ricordi's wife) as well. Verdi's sister-in-law, Barbarina Strepponi doesn't appear to be that encyclopedically significant, but I may well be wrong.
As I haven't done this for a while, I'll remind everyone this is not a voting guide, it's meant to be informative, so that images can be distributed appropriately to help promote unjustly forgotten women. If WP:FPC is your thing, I don't want to block your participation there, but this isn't a canvassing tool, and should not be allowed to become such. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 07:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi All, I've started a draft for the poet Draft:Fatima Al-Socotra and I used google translate and Arabic sources (which I've done before for other women) BUT in this case, I'm a bit confused as to whether I've got her name right, as I've seen her elsewhere referred to as Al-Zahra Al-Socotra. I also have another question, about a specific source, which I put on the talk page Draft talk:Fatima Al-Socotra. I wondered if there was anyone with a better knowledge of Arabic than me who might be able to take a look? Thanks ( Lajmmoore ( talk) 18:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC))
Hi! I was on a wiki-break when the Reducing gender imbalance meetup took place, but I'm glad it was done! I have moved the Gender imbalance per country table to the project and updated it. The meetup was noticeable in the statistics, specially in countries with a low number of articles, for example, Tuvalu female-to-male ratio changed from 5,6% to 7,0%, Togo 10,6% to 11,4%, Portugal, 14,7% to 15,3%, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 12,9% to 14,1%, Tonga 7,9% to 8,6%, Qatar: 2,7% to 2,9%. The gap actually got worse for Pakistan, since biographies about men are created at a far higher rate than women biographies. Good work everyone! :D -- MarioGom ( talk) 18:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Today I learned about merging histories and avoiding copy/paste. If anyone who has privs and knows how to merge histories could they please take a look at [1]? Thanks!
I copy/pasted from the draft, made my edits, and got it through AfC. I didn't know about the whole move/history merge thing and I'll do it better next time! Big thanks to Johano27109 for including so many great reliable sources in the initial draft, this made re-writing much simpler. Still lots more to add to this one over time I bet.
Also, I don't know much about the Talk page banners/flags/etc and which ones to add and how, if anyone wants to point me in the right direction I'd be grateful. TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 20:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
History merged, thanks everyone! TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 21:32, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Today I made a new article on physicist Jill Bonner, but the story of her life as described in the article tails off kind of inconclusively. She was listed as a professor of physics by the University of Rhode Island in their 1998–1999 catalog, and not included in the physics faculty listing (not even as emerita) in their 1999–2000 catalog. That's the last I can find out about her. If anyone has any ideas how to find out what happened to her then or later, I'd appreciate it. — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:59, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I have another page that I'm working on as a rescue from a failed article creation. I've done the basic setup for it and also outlined the subject's notability requirements in the associated draft talk page. I would love any feedback/edits you might have to offer: [2] TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 05:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Somewhere in the list of WiR redlinks I saw that there was a request to get an article up for Pamela Z's (only) solo album A Delay is Better. Since that genre is absolutely my wheelhouse I have taken it on and made a draft [3]and Talk [4] for it.
I'd love any feedback, I especially wasn't certain which wikiprojects beyond WiR to include. I've made a statement about notability on the Talk page which is becoming my habit to help avoid the GNG/not-notable smackdowns. I haven't done a Works before so definitely open to insights there.
TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 23:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I've put Fanny Mendelssohn up for peer review as I think it could be not far off GA quality....all comments welcome.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi All, In case people are interested, Medieval Wiki is running a week-long initiative starting this week, to add more women and improve content. There's crowd-sourced ideas on their project pages. It's run by @ Medievalfran: and @ Bethanymay:! Cheers Lajmmoore ( talk) 15:59, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Not only did MerielGJones write a great article about Dilys Price, it's heading for the front page as a DYK at midnight UTC on November 8! Congratulations MerielGJones! <3 - Yupik ( talk) 05:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Do we have a category (or catgories) for women who are or were entitled to use the title "Lady", by dint of a British honour, such as a knighthood, granted to their husband? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
I started an article on WWII vet and centenarian Millie Bailey. This article, [5], features an image of Bailey at the White House by the official WH photographer David Lienemann. I know all WH images are in the public domain but I do not know where to find the images from this visit. Any help is appreciated! TJMSmith ( talk) 19:48, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
This article is in a bit of a sorry state, and has been tagged {{
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twice, but I think there's a potentially decent article to get out of this with the help of someone with the right sources. Can anyone assist?
Ritchie333
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I check up on a few living women who have articles here just to see if there are any changes or additions that can be made to keep the articles current. I happened to check on Kimberly Teehee today and found a transcript from an npr program from October 7th 2020. Anyone interested in indigenous women and the representation of indigenous people in the US might find it an interesting read. Here is the link to that transcript. Otsalanvlvi (We are all brothers and sisters) -- Tsistunagiska ( talk) 15:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Please help me defend an article about a woman, a vocalist of a popular Russian musical group. The article contains links to reliable, high-profile sources, federal portals and the media. Outright discrimination occurs again. Help! Protect! Николай Назаров ( talk) 17:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Women in Red | November 2020, Volume 6, Issue 11, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 180, 181
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-- Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Sandbox Organiser A place to help you organise your work |
Hi all
I've made something for people like me who have a million half finished sandboxes to help be a bit more organised and play around with the idea of having a wiki page that works a bit like the apps menu on your computer. I'm guessing some of you have quite a few articles in draft space as well :)
/info/en/?search=User:John_Cummings/sandbox
If you'd like your own there's some instructions down the bottom on how to copy it (just find and replace my name in the wikicode with yours) but also feel free to poke around on my one to see how it works.
All feedback very welcome, ideas for making things clearer, new sections, etc, the instructions (at the bottom) need some work so feel free to ask questions there or here or wherever. I'm not sure where to put it yet as a tool people can use, any ideas?
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 17:49, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
{{subst:TEMPLATENAME|USERNAME}}
on the relevant page and have all the links and functionality working without having to manual find/replace "John Cummings" "John+Cummings" and "John_Cummings".
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I've noticed - very belatedly, but better late than never I suppose - that the article on Jazz contains over 20 images of male musicians but only one of a woman. There is a nascent discussion on the article talk page (currently at Talk:Jazz#Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2020, but may need to be moved if the discussion develops). Would editors on this project like to contribute to the discussion? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 15:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Euphemia Vale Blake is the correct spelling; not Euphenia. Though I tried, I don't know how to deal with the necessary merges or redirects. Can someone please help? -- Rosiestep ( talk) 16:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working on a translation of the French Wikipedia article on the French afrofeminist author and poet Kiyémis. There are two words important to her biography that don't translate from the French: afrofeminist and grossophobe. Both words have pages on French Wikipedia that describe the terms and give context for why similar English words do not accurately translate the French word. Afrofeminsm is not the same as black feminism(which is what afro-feminism redirects to), and grossophobe is much broader in meaning and scope than 'social stigma of obesity' or 'fat shaming'. Is it OK to use the untranslated French terms and link to them in my article? IdRatherBeAtTheBeach ( talk) 20:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
...but I just wanted to say that I'm dang proud of the work we do in this project to eradicate these multiple cruddy ways of talking about women via their appearance or without using their actual name. The work we do on this wiki often spreads to other wikis via translation, so at the same time we're having an impact on a lot of other language communities. Perhaps some day it will trickle down to the press too. So takkâ, giitu, späʹsseb, thank you <3 - Yupik ( talk) 05:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Everyone, I started a page for Queens of Industry, which was a phenomenon where different industries elected their own representative beauty queens: Queens of Industry. I've struggled with categories for it, and I also couldn't think of a suitable infobox? I don't generally do these more thematic articles, so help and pointers very gratefully received! I imagine there's a lot more that could be included, but thought this was an OK overview to start. Lajmmoore ( talk) 17:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Credit currently goes to Robert for this couple's photography. There is a draft for Shana. Probably best handled as a merged article covering both together. There's already been some discussion. ~ Kvng ( talk) 15:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Category:Australian women's soccer players bears watching. It is currently under attack by multiple WP:NSPORTS afficianados who usually keep women athletes out of Wikipedia by insisting that only players in the top leagues can have articles, but this time (because the league they play in is the top league in its country) are now insisting that only fully professional leagues (which don't exist) are good enough. I've unprodded a couple dozen of these this evening, but one is still under AfD. — David Eppstein ( talk) 05:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, this is queued for the "On This Day" part of the main page tomorrow (her 60th birthday), but at the moment it's ineligible because the "Filmography" and "Awards and nominations" are unsourced. Can anyone help get the sources done by the end of day today? I'm not sure I've got time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm working with someone who's first language is French to write a Wikipedia article about a French soprano here User:John Cummings/Articles/Claude Giroux. I'm struggling a bit because I'm not familiar with some of the abbreviations they've used that probably need a French person to understand. I don't think its written exactly the right way for Wikipedia. I've started rewriting at the top but I'm getting a bit lost. I'll be able to add references soon from Le Monde etc, which I guess means there can be both an English and French version.
Best
John Cummings ( talk) 18:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@ John Cummings: et al: ORTF is "Office de Radiodiffusion Télévision Française". And Claude is very much a unisex name in France (I seem to recall a female composer of the name, but her name escapes me at the moment). As for sourcing: I've often found online sourcing for singers of this generation to be exceedingly difficult. I'm in the middle of something at the moment, but when I return to the computer later I'll look in a couple of my "usual sources" and see if I can't turn something up. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 19:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your help, I have some sources to add, they're just old French newspaper clippings so trying to work out the best way to format them. I can confirm they are a woman. I'll try and add the references on Monday once I get a few more details. The main thing I'd appreciate help with is correcting the formatting of the French article into Wikipedia style and translation into English. Thanks again John Cummings ( talk) 20:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Everything from last report passed except Mary Jackson, which is kind of alright as it'd be the second FP of her, and its failure to be used in, say, an article about wind tunnels really pushed down the EV as so much of the image is details of the wind tunnel she used.
Current images up for featured picture relevant to the project (well, Sandra Fredman less so because of the age of her article, but given she had no photo until late 2018, it's probably somewhat relevant) are:
As always, this is not a voting guide, and should not be used as such. Each of these need to be evaluated on their merits as images, not the merits of their subjects, but subject is the sole criterion for me mentioning them here. Given it's passed already, though, I can say I'm quite pleased with Pauline Kirby, as the article was a fine example of a collaboration between a university course and this project. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh hey I wrote that Clara McAdow article because I was so smitten with her photo. I think you can't go wrong with any of these really. Jessamyn ( talk) 02:00, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't care what your political stripe is, having a woman VP in the United States is a big deal for us in the states! Kamala Harris has broken a huge barrier. Let's celebrate and keep writing about amazing women every day! Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
As a result of the efforts of Ser Amantio di Nicolao in June and July to include wp:WikiProject Women writers and wp:WikiProject Women in Music tags on all the appropriate talk pages, there is now a considerable backlog of unassessed articles relating to women. Thanks mainly to Rosiestep, a few thousand of the newly tagged Women writers articles have already been assessed (and often significantly improved) but there are still some 4,800 requiring attention. As for Women in Music, as far as I can see, no one has made any concerted effort to carry out missing assessments. As a result, almost two thirds of the articles remain unassessed. Of Women in Music's 33,077 articles, as of today 21,815 are unassessed.
Assessment is an important component of Wikipedia's quality incentives; not only does it provide an overview of improvement in different spheres of interest, it also gives individual editors feedback on how the articles they have created are progressing — sometimes thanks to their own efforts, often as a result of enhancements by other contributors. It seems to me to be particularly important for us to ensure assessment of all the articles in wikiprojects associated with women now that increasing attention is being given to gender bias. I'm happy to report that assessments have indeed been systematically made of virtually all articles in wp:Feminism, wp Jewish Women, wp:Women, wp:Women artists, wp:Women's History and wp:Women scientists. The only other major wikiproject on women requiring attention is wp:Women's sport in which over 7,000 or around 7% of the articles remain to be assessed; see Category:Women's sport articles by quality.
I appreciate that for many of you, assessment is far less attractive than content creation but from time to time, it would help if you could devote some of your editing time to assessment. In particular, if you are working on the improvement of existing articles, check out the talk pages and add any missing assessments. You may also have a chance to upgrade some of the assessments already given. You can find guidance under wp:Content assessment or the Instructions section in wp:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment. Those of you who are interested in devoting special attention to assessment may find it useful to use ORES or Rater, both of which automatically offer reasonable evaluation estimates which you can adopt in most, but certainly not all cases.
Let's see how we progress over the next few months. Happy assessment editing!-- Ipigott ( talk) 11:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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Does anyone here know the correct formatting of a Pakistani name? Specifically, I wrote a stub for Rabiah Jamil Beg. When I went to add her to the List of Pakistani journalists I realized that the names there were listed in a variety of ways (alphabetically). The List of Pakistani actresses seems to be alphabetical by what a westerner would consider first name. I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 19:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
I was reading the page about Louise Varèse and I found this notice: Collection: Louise Varèse papers | Smith College Finding Aids". findingaids.smith.edu. Retrieved 2020-07-14. This article incorporates text available under the CC BY 3.0 license. Out of curiosity, something changed in the last months? since what I was told when I was using the same sources (the Biographical content of the Finding Aids of Papers at university website) was that CC 3.0 wasn't allow on Wikipedia (only Public Domain was allowed, that I think is CC0). -- Elisa.rolle ( talk) 09:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, she should be notable. Anyone up for writing at least something quick about her? She has plenty of coverage (50K ghits in English alone; I didn't check in Welsh), holds a Guiness World Record, has been awarded an OBE, etc. Right now, Dilys Price is a redirect to Fireman Sam#Townspeople and I think that's a shame. (I'd do the article myself, but I have 30 days left to turn in my thesis ":D") - Yupik ( talk) 05:43, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm really not much of an article creator anymore, but, frankly, the creator of the title role of a notable opera lacked an article? Well, that cannot stand! Any improvements would be appreciated. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 00:01, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Is https://www.denelezh.org/ not working? I am using Google Chrome and for a few days it keeps saying ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED. Hanif Al Husaini ( talk) 02:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC) @ Envlh:-- Ipigott ( talk) 07:56, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, can anyone help out here? I had to delete this unsourced BLP, but I won't object if anyone re-writes it. Dennis Brown has helpfully found a few sources. See here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I wanted to introduce a new user to this WikiProject and also ask if someone could mentor her since she's newer to editing. The user is Iacornflake and she's working on the draft Draft:Carolyn Lawrence-Dill. Full disclosure, there is a conflict of interest here but Iacornflake is going about this the right way. She just needs some guidance when it comes to editing science biographies. She's very interested in editing science related articles and about women in science in particular, so I honestly couldn't post here fast enough to try and woo her to our awesome WikiProject!
Welcome Iacornflake! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 05:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Woohoo! Thanks for the help and encouragement, folks! I'll do what I can to fix up that first submission, then get better engaged here. Yay! Iacornflake ( talk) 00:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
When searching Wikidata to link Jane Powell (stage actress) to the relevant QID, I discovered that an English Wikipedia article already exists in the name of Mrs Powell. The content of the new article needs to be incorporated in the 2015 article and then a redirect created. Oronsay ( talk) 22:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Maria Bakalova, currently a redirect.
Have not been able to find her on other-language Wikipedias using a Cyrillic-characters search, but someone who can read Bulgarian may well find more biographical info in that language. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone lend a hand at Michelle Sagara? She's an author, with an article that seems to be heavily edited by someone with a COI. I've removed the most obvious promotional content, but it basically reads like a fanpage or a bookstore page - and I'm not sure if all the book prose should be scrapped or not (since it currently makes up most of the article). - Whisperjanes ( talk) 20:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, anyone willing to have a look at the draft for Yimon Aye before I resubmit it again? Many thanks! Cheers, Quaenuncabibis ( talk) 08:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Those of you who have an hour or so to spare might like to spend it on What We Know And Can Agree On: Wikipedia At 20 by Simon Garfield which appeared on the Esquire site on 20 October. It includes a few interesting titbits from Katherine Maher on the need to expand coverage of women, e.g. "She is proud that women gather frequently for day-long editathons to improve this figure, and flags up the site’s recent focus on improving and expanding articles concerning women’s health and the history of the black diaspora."-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Those who enjoyed reading Garfield's article might also like to take a look at some of the items included in Wikipedia @ 20. Particularly pertinent to the interests of Women in Red is Toward a Wikipedia For and From Us All by Adele Godoy Vrana ( AVrana (WMF)), Anasuya Sengupta ( ASengupta (WMF)), and Siko Bouterse ( Siko (WMF)). And our many librarians might like Wikipedia and Libraires by Phoebe Ayers ( Phoebe) which among other things addresses "systemic bias". There'll probably be many more taking stock of Wikipedia's first 20 years between now and mid-January. Maybe we should start a list of those of interest to Women in Red.-- Ipigott ( talk) 09:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Also well worthwhile reading is Wikipedia Has a Bias Problem by Jackie Koerner ( Jackiekoerner) with lots of creative suggestions, summed up by "If there is any hope for truly achieving the sum of all human knowledge, the next chapter in Wikipedia’s life needs to meaningfully address the inequities perpetuated by bias."-- Ipigott ( talk) 14:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
There's four new images relevant to us. From Women in Red articles (both passing):
From.... how the hell did her article only appear in 2016, and thus be relevant to our project?
And from "Potentially full of Women in Red" (now an FP):
I suspect Verdi's adopted daughter, Maria Carrara Verdi (sources vary a bit as to her name thanks to marriage and adoption and all) is most likely to be relevant, possibly Giuditta Ricordi (Giulio Ricordi's wife) as well. Verdi's sister-in-law, Barbarina Strepponi doesn't appear to be that encyclopedically significant, but I may well be wrong.
As I haven't done this for a while, I'll remind everyone this is not a voting guide, it's meant to be informative, so that images can be distributed appropriately to help promote unjustly forgotten women. If WP:FPC is your thing, I don't want to block your participation there, but this isn't a canvassing tool, and should not be allowed to become such. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 07:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi All, I've started a draft for the poet Draft:Fatima Al-Socotra and I used google translate and Arabic sources (which I've done before for other women) BUT in this case, I'm a bit confused as to whether I've got her name right, as I've seen her elsewhere referred to as Al-Zahra Al-Socotra. I also have another question, about a specific source, which I put on the talk page Draft talk:Fatima Al-Socotra. I wondered if there was anyone with a better knowledge of Arabic than me who might be able to take a look? Thanks ( Lajmmoore ( talk) 18:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC))
Hi! I was on a wiki-break when the Reducing gender imbalance meetup took place, but I'm glad it was done! I have moved the Gender imbalance per country table to the project and updated it. The meetup was noticeable in the statistics, specially in countries with a low number of articles, for example, Tuvalu female-to-male ratio changed from 5,6% to 7,0%, Togo 10,6% to 11,4%, Portugal, 14,7% to 15,3%, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 12,9% to 14,1%, Tonga 7,9% to 8,6%, Qatar: 2,7% to 2,9%. The gap actually got worse for Pakistan, since biographies about men are created at a far higher rate than women biographies. Good work everyone! :D -- MarioGom ( talk) 18:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Today I learned about merging histories and avoiding copy/paste. If anyone who has privs and knows how to merge histories could they please take a look at [1]? Thanks!
I copy/pasted from the draft, made my edits, and got it through AfC. I didn't know about the whole move/history merge thing and I'll do it better next time! Big thanks to Johano27109 for including so many great reliable sources in the initial draft, this made re-writing much simpler. Still lots more to add to this one over time I bet.
Also, I don't know much about the Talk page banners/flags/etc and which ones to add and how, if anyone wants to point me in the right direction I'd be grateful. TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 20:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
History merged, thanks everyone! TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 21:32, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Today I made a new article on physicist Jill Bonner, but the story of her life as described in the article tails off kind of inconclusively. She was listed as a professor of physics by the University of Rhode Island in their 1998–1999 catalog, and not included in the physics faculty listing (not even as emerita) in their 1999–2000 catalog. That's the last I can find out about her. If anyone has any ideas how to find out what happened to her then or later, I'd appreciate it. — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:59, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I have another page that I'm working on as a rescue from a failed article creation. I've done the basic setup for it and also outlined the subject's notability requirements in the associated draft talk page. I would love any feedback/edits you might have to offer: [2] TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 05:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Somewhere in the list of WiR redlinks I saw that there was a request to get an article up for Pamela Z's (only) solo album A Delay is Better. Since that genre is absolutely my wheelhouse I have taken it on and made a draft [3]and Talk [4] for it.
I'd love any feedback, I especially wasn't certain which wikiprojects beyond WiR to include. I've made a statement about notability on the Talk page which is becoming my habit to help avoid the GNG/not-notable smackdowns. I haven't done a Works before so definitely open to insights there.
TheMusicExperimental ( talk) 23:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I've put Fanny Mendelssohn up for peer review as I think it could be not far off GA quality....all comments welcome.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi All, In case people are interested, Medieval Wiki is running a week-long initiative starting this week, to add more women and improve content. There's crowd-sourced ideas on their project pages. It's run by @ Medievalfran: and @ Bethanymay:! Cheers Lajmmoore ( talk) 15:59, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Not only did MerielGJones write a great article about Dilys Price, it's heading for the front page as a DYK at midnight UTC on November 8! Congratulations MerielGJones! <3 - Yupik ( talk) 05:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Do we have a category (or catgories) for women who are or were entitled to use the title "Lady", by dint of a British honour, such as a knighthood, granted to their husband? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
I started an article on WWII vet and centenarian Millie Bailey. This article, [5], features an image of Bailey at the White House by the official WH photographer David Lienemann. I know all WH images are in the public domain but I do not know where to find the images from this visit. Any help is appreciated! TJMSmith ( talk) 19:48, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
This article is in a bit of a sorry state, and has been tagged {{
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twice, but I think there's a potentially decent article to get out of this with the help of someone with the right sources. Can anyone assist?
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I check up on a few living women who have articles here just to see if there are any changes or additions that can be made to keep the articles current. I happened to check on Kimberly Teehee today and found a transcript from an npr program from October 7th 2020. Anyone interested in indigenous women and the representation of indigenous people in the US might find it an interesting read. Here is the link to that transcript. Otsalanvlvi (We are all brothers and sisters) -- Tsistunagiska ( talk) 15:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Please help me defend an article about a woman, a vocalist of a popular Russian musical group. The article contains links to reliable, high-profile sources, federal portals and the media. Outright discrimination occurs again. Help! Protect! Николай Назаров ( talk) 17:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Women in Red | November 2020, Volume 6, Issue 11, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 180, 181
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-- Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Sandbox Organiser A place to help you organise your work |
Hi all
I've made something for people like me who have a million half finished sandboxes to help be a bit more organised and play around with the idea of having a wiki page that works a bit like the apps menu on your computer. I'm guessing some of you have quite a few articles in draft space as well :)
/info/en/?search=User:John_Cummings/sandbox
If you'd like your own there's some instructions down the bottom on how to copy it (just find and replace my name in the wikicode with yours) but also feel free to poke around on my one to see how it works.
All feedback very welcome, ideas for making things clearer, new sections, etc, the instructions (at the bottom) need some work so feel free to ask questions there or here or wherever. I'm not sure where to put it yet as a tool people can use, any ideas?
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 17:49, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
{{subst:TEMPLATENAME|USERNAME}}
on the relevant page and have all the links and functionality working without having to manual find/replace "John Cummings" "John+Cummings" and "John_Cummings".
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I've noticed - very belatedly, but better late than never I suppose - that the article on Jazz contains over 20 images of male musicians but only one of a woman. There is a nascent discussion on the article talk page (currently at Talk:Jazz#Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2020, but may need to be moved if the discussion develops). Would editors on this project like to contribute to the discussion? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 15:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Euphemia Vale Blake is the correct spelling; not Euphenia. Though I tried, I don't know how to deal with the necessary merges or redirects. Can someone please help? -- Rosiestep ( talk) 16:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I am working on a translation of the French Wikipedia article on the French afrofeminist author and poet Kiyémis. There are two words important to her biography that don't translate from the French: afrofeminist and grossophobe. Both words have pages on French Wikipedia that describe the terms and give context for why similar English words do not accurately translate the French word. Afrofeminsm is not the same as black feminism(which is what afro-feminism redirects to), and grossophobe is much broader in meaning and scope than 'social stigma of obesity' or 'fat shaming'. Is it OK to use the untranslated French terms and link to them in my article? IdRatherBeAtTheBeach ( talk) 20:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
...but I just wanted to say that I'm dang proud of the work we do in this project to eradicate these multiple cruddy ways of talking about women via their appearance or without using their actual name. The work we do on this wiki often spreads to other wikis via translation, so at the same time we're having an impact on a lot of other language communities. Perhaps some day it will trickle down to the press too. So takkâ, giitu, späʹsseb, thank you <3 - Yupik ( talk) 05:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Everyone, I started a page for Queens of Industry, which was a phenomenon where different industries elected their own representative beauty queens: Queens of Industry. I've struggled with categories for it, and I also couldn't think of a suitable infobox? I don't generally do these more thematic articles, so help and pointers very gratefully received! I imagine there's a lot more that could be included, but thought this was an OK overview to start. Lajmmoore ( talk) 17:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Credit currently goes to Robert for this couple's photography. There is a draft for Shana. Probably best handled as a merged article covering both together. There's already been some discussion. ~ Kvng ( talk) 15:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Category:Australian women's soccer players bears watching. It is currently under attack by multiple WP:NSPORTS afficianados who usually keep women athletes out of Wikipedia by insisting that only players in the top leagues can have articles, but this time (because the league they play in is the top league in its country) are now insisting that only fully professional leagues (which don't exist) are good enough. I've unprodded a couple dozen of these this evening, but one is still under AfD. — David Eppstein ( talk) 05:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, this is queued for the "On This Day" part of the main page tomorrow (her 60th birthday), but at the moment it's ineligible because the "Filmography" and "Awards and nominations" are unsourced. Can anyone help get the sources done by the end of day today? I'm not sure I've got time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm working with someone who's first language is French to write a Wikipedia article about a French soprano here User:John Cummings/Articles/Claude Giroux. I'm struggling a bit because I'm not familiar with some of the abbreviations they've used that probably need a French person to understand. I don't think its written exactly the right way for Wikipedia. I've started rewriting at the top but I'm getting a bit lost. I'll be able to add references soon from Le Monde etc, which I guess means there can be both an English and French version.
Best
John Cummings ( talk) 18:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@ John Cummings: et al: ORTF is "Office de Radiodiffusion Télévision Française". And Claude is very much a unisex name in France (I seem to recall a female composer of the name, but her name escapes me at the moment). As for sourcing: I've often found online sourcing for singers of this generation to be exceedingly difficult. I'm in the middle of something at the moment, but when I return to the computer later I'll look in a couple of my "usual sources" and see if I can't turn something up. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 19:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your help, I have some sources to add, they're just old French newspaper clippings so trying to work out the best way to format them. I can confirm they are a woman. I'll try and add the references on Monday once I get a few more details. The main thing I'd appreciate help with is correcting the formatting of the French article into Wikipedia style and translation into English. Thanks again John Cummings ( talk) 20:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Everything from last report passed except Mary Jackson, which is kind of alright as it'd be the second FP of her, and its failure to be used in, say, an article about wind tunnels really pushed down the EV as so much of the image is details of the wind tunnel she used.
Current images up for featured picture relevant to the project (well, Sandra Fredman less so because of the age of her article, but given she had no photo until late 2018, it's probably somewhat relevant) are:
As always, this is not a voting guide, and should not be used as such. Each of these need to be evaluated on their merits as images, not the merits of their subjects, but subject is the sole criterion for me mentioning them here. Given it's passed already, though, I can say I'm quite pleased with Pauline Kirby, as the article was a fine example of a collaboration between a university course and this project. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 20:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh hey I wrote that Clara McAdow article because I was so smitten with her photo. I think you can't go wrong with any of these really. Jessamyn ( talk) 02:00, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't care what your political stripe is, having a woman VP in the United States is a big deal for us in the states! Kamala Harris has broken a huge barrier. Let's celebrate and keep writing about amazing women every day! Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 18:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
As a result of the efforts of Ser Amantio di Nicolao in June and July to include wp:WikiProject Women writers and wp:WikiProject Women in Music tags on all the appropriate talk pages, there is now a considerable backlog of unassessed articles relating to women. Thanks mainly to Rosiestep, a few thousand of the newly tagged Women writers articles have already been assessed (and often significantly improved) but there are still some 4,800 requiring attention. As for Women in Music, as far as I can see, no one has made any concerted effort to carry out missing assessments. As a result, almost two thirds of the articles remain unassessed. Of Women in Music's 33,077 articles, as of today 21,815 are unassessed.
Assessment is an important component of Wikipedia's quality incentives; not only does it provide an overview of improvement in different spheres of interest, it also gives individual editors feedback on how the articles they have created are progressing — sometimes thanks to their own efforts, often as a result of enhancements by other contributors. It seems to me to be particularly important for us to ensure assessment of all the articles in wikiprojects associated with women now that increasing attention is being given to gender bias. I'm happy to report that assessments have indeed been systematically made of virtually all articles in wp:Feminism, wp Jewish Women, wp:Women, wp:Women artists, wp:Women's History and wp:Women scientists. The only other major wikiproject on women requiring attention is wp:Women's sport in which over 7,000 or around 7% of the articles remain to be assessed; see Category:Women's sport articles by quality.
I appreciate that for many of you, assessment is far less attractive than content creation but from time to time, it would help if you could devote some of your editing time to assessment. In particular, if you are working on the improvement of existing articles, check out the talk pages and add any missing assessments. You may also have a chance to upgrade some of the assessments already given. You can find guidance under wp:Content assessment or the Instructions section in wp:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment. Those of you who are interested in devoting special attention to assessment may find it useful to use ORES or Rater, both of which automatically offer reasonable evaluation estimates which you can adopt in most, but certainly not all cases.
Let's see how we progress over the next few months. Happy assessment editing!-- Ipigott ( talk) 11:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)