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A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.5 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. -- Pres N 04:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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Aw yeah, time for another "list of <type of video game>" to be unearthed! This time we get List of vaporware, which, from the 5 seconds I spent looking at it, includes a game (Commander Keen: The Universe Is Toast!) that the developer literally never developed past coming up with a name and spending a couple days noodling around ideas before deciding that Wolfenstein 3D was a way cooler idea, so. Maybe not the best inclusion criteria here. -- Pres N 04:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a user mostly active nowadays over at Wikisource, and I recently started a WikiProject over there with the same name as this one concerning video game transcriptions, and identifying video games that happen to be in the public domain or otherwise freely licensed. I noted on that page that "[no video games] have expired copyrights, and PD-not-renewed or no-notice don't apply". Oh how wrong I think I was when I wrote that...
I recently discovered a very important legal fact, that applies in the United States, that might mean that there may be some handful of video games out there after all that fell into the public domain due to failure to comply to formalities. That legal fact is that "[works first published in the US, that were published from] 1978 through 28 February 1989 [that were] published without a copyright notice, but without subsequent registration at the copyright office within 5 years [are] in the public domain due to failure to comply with required formalities." (Source: Commons:Hirtle chart) But if this is the case, then it appears to be that my post here on this very discussion page is the first time that anyone has called any attention to this legal loophole in terms of 1970s-1980s video games.
To sum all that up, if a game was released in the US before the specific date of February 28, 1989, without a copyright notice, and was never registered with the US Copyright Office, then it should be in the public domain and free of all copyright restrictions.
So why is this important? Well, if there are any video games that happen to be in the public domain, usage of their data (i.e. screenshots of the game etc.) on wikis such as Wikipedia and Wikisource will be easier. Specifically for Wikipedia, since we won't have to comply with the fair use rules, this will allow for more complete and better quality supplements to articles.
I wanted to appeal to you guys to help me find some possible candidate games for me, so I can add them to a list of public domain video games. To reiterate, the requirements I ask for are:
If you know of or can find any games that meet these requirements, please let me know here and I can do the rest of the research (if you hadn't already done that yourself).
But if you want to do the last part of the research for the final confirmation, a few simple searches at the Copyright Office online should usually suffice, since all their post-1978 records are located there. Here is an example (for reference) of a copyright office record for a video game that was released during the requested timespan.
Thanks! PseudoSkull ( talk) 07:50, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Currently working on Animal Crossing: New Horizons. How should I organize the "Updates" section? A list? A paragraph of "this update had this"? Simply mention "The game is updated" in a paragraph or so? Should it even be here at all? P anini 🥪 12:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
As we have a unique situation in this console generation that games from the Xbox One / PS4 can be played on the Xbox Series X/S / PS5 without patching, but later receive unique performance patch upgrade to these newer consoles, I'm trying to wrap my head around how to handle platforms and release dates in the infobox here. Specific case is Overwatch, which has been playable on the Xbox Series X/S from the Xbox One version since the console launch but got yesterday a patch specific to that version to take advantage of the newer console hardware (higher FPS for example). But as best I can tell, there's no new special release or anything, it's just a patch.
Now, it makes sense that we do not automatically add "Xbox Series X/S" to all Xbox One games as a platform (same with "PS5" to all PS4 games) due to the nature of backwards compatibility on these consoles. But as I think this practice may start being more common, a patch to create the new console version rather than a discrete wholly new release, should we consider that when such a patch is available as to be the date of release for the game on that platform, and thus by extension, inclusion of that platform, for infobox purposes? All this should be clearly explained in the body, of course. -- Masem ( t) 14:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey all. Namco has passed its GAN review today, so I've decided to file a second peer review for it as part of my plan to make it an FAC by the end of the year. The GAN was conducted by an experienced editor, so hopefully there's no glaring issues with the page. Feel free to provide any comments. Namcokid 47 20:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Matthew and am an employee of Unity Software. I've disclosed this on my profile and at Talk:Unity (game engine), where I have proposed some article updates. Most recently, I've posted a question about adding some of the different ways Unity's engine has been used. I’m hoping another editor will take a look, and make the changes on my behalf given my COI. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Matthewpruitt ( talk) 19:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Would anyone here mind if i change this article from roguelike to roguelite? -- Trade ( talk) 22:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.5 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. -- Pres N 14:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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As a part of the move to improve the quality of the WikiProject's high and top-importance articles, some editors have been translating the featured article Satoru Iwata into Chinese.
Most of the translation is done by me, and there are some people actively checking the sources, correcting my translation and creating relevant articles. During translation I encountered some disturbing issues with the article from English Wikipedia. Looks like there is little to no activity in the article's talk page, so I put them here.
Iwata purchased an HP-65, the first programmable calculator, in 1974.As most of the sources claim that it is an HP-65, this particular source from 4Gamer, a reliable source, claims HP-67. Japanese Wikipedia adopts this and says HP-67. I personally believe that 4Gamer made a mistake, but I am not 100 percent sure. I checked against the original source (book by Inoue, translated into Chinese), and I see failed verification everywhere.
The several simple number games Iwata produced, such as Volleyball and Missile Attack, made use of an electronic calculator he shared with his schoolmates.This sentence cited two sources, and looks like the second one, from news.com.au, have nothing to do with this claim.
Volleyball and Missile Attackpart.
Tomohiko Uematsu, an engineering professor, noted Iwata's proficiency with software programming and remarked that Iwata could write programs faster and more accurately than any of his other students.I checked on the original source in Japanese. It looks like that Tomohiko Uematsu is Mr. Iwata's classmate who later became a professor. Also, he compared Iwata's programming ability against other classmates, not his students.
Nintendo initially contacted several other developers to produce Open Tournament Golf; however, all of them declined as they did not believe the large amount of data could be stored within an NES cartridge.I checked the source. It actually refers to Golf, not Open Tournament Golf. The source says that "...After that, we made F-1 Race, ...", it implies that the golf game is released before F-1 Race (1984), thus ruling out the possibility of NES Open Tournament Golf.
Iwata also promoted Miyamoto, Genyo Takeda, Yoshihiro Mori, and Shinji Hatano to representative directors on the company's board of directors, equaling his own position.Neither of the two sources support this sentence. This report from Nintendo partly supports this claim, but it showed that Iwata's becoming president and Miyamoto etc.'s becoming directors happened at the same time, so I couldn't verify that Miyamoto, etc. were promoted by Iwata.
Due to his success, Barron's included Iwata on their list of the 30 top CEOs worldwide from 2007 to 2009.This sentence cites two sources, one in 2007 and one in 2009. I couldn't verify that he is also included on the list in year 2008. Maybe that Barron's source also includes this information, but it requires subscription.
The fiscal year is represented by the calendar year in which the period begins, found in fiscal year#Japan. I'm pretty sure Nintendo follows this rule. Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 01:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Although he acknowledged the practice as a viable means of promoting games in the short-term, he considered the model outdated and not a sound direction for core development.Completely failed verification. The cited Engadget source have nothing to do with "free-to-start". The Time source mentioned nothing about
promoting games in the short term. Also, according to the source, Mr. Iwata did not see "free-to-start" as
outdatedand "a bad direction for core development". What he said was that some people believe that traditional packaging model was outdated, but he did not think so. He believed that both "free-to-start" and traditional models have their suitable scenarios. Correct me if I am wrong.
Following Iwata's death, general directors Shigeru Miyamoto and Genyo Takeda temporarily managed the company together.Miyamoto and Takeda are not general directors. They are representative directors. The CNNMoney source didn't say that they were general directors, either.
Buddhist funeral services for Iwata were held in Kyoto on July 16 and 17. Despite stormy weather produced by Typhoon Nangka, an estimated 4,100 people attended to pay their respectsI checked the three sources in this sentence. Excluding the WSJ source which requires a subscription, the remaining two sources made no mention to
Buddhist. One of them mentioned "Japanese custom", and I didn't really understand what's the link between buddist and custom. Also to mention, the
Typhoon Nangkapart is not direct enough. Sources mentioned that there was a typhoon, without saying its name. I think that there was only one typhoon in Japan at that time so I believe that might be fine.
and his ashes were buried at an undisclosed place in KyotoSource did not claim that. It only claimed that his remains were cremated, but made no mention of its burying place.
As the source checking is still ongoing, there might be more problems throwing out by our community. Please help us by clarifying the facts from the article.
With gratitude, the sincere one representing the Chinese Wikipedia WikiProject Video games community: Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 15:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@ GamerPro64, Masem, Cyclonebiskit, and PresN: Looks like not many people is caring about this thread. Is it a good idea that I put it into a Featured Article Review? Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 16:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
The article about Accolade is under review. I've been working on this one a while, with a lot of painstaking reference fixes and edits. But it might end up being archived (default fail) due to a lack of general reviewers. There's already been a thorough review of the references, and at least one general review, so it really just needs one or two more pairs of eyes on it. I don't mind doing some QPQ to review anyone else's work, if that's acceptable. Shooterwalker ( talk) 00:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Super Mario 64 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. HumanxAnthro ( talk) 18:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I've come across a new editor who claims to be professionally connected to the subject of the good article The Nomad Soul. They wanted to add their name to the infobox before contacting me on my talk page. What should we do in this situation? I would like to get your opinions. ภץאคгöร 15:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to make of these two categories. They might be non-defining, especially when the functionality is baked into the commercial engine the game uses, but could be few enough to be considered non-ubiquitous like Category:Unity (game engine) games, which was deleted a few weeks ago. IceWelder [ ✉] 16:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
This is something that caught my eye during the review process of Kirby's Dream Course that The Rambling Man brought up: Was there ever a discussion here on Wikipedia that citing video games directly to list the development staff was valid or not? Just curious to know. (P.S: The closest things i could find were these three discussions specifically: Video game manual citations: Include uncredited, but verified authors?, Using game manuals as a source, Sourcing the games, official sources, and Kotaku.) Roberth Martinez ( talk) 00:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.5 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. -- Pres N 15:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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As experienced editors, you all have, of course, at least skimmed through WP:ACCESS to learn about providing accessibility to readers using screen-reading software, which includes both blind and partially-sighted readers and people who find reading glowing text exhausting, because you want your articles to be read by as many people as possible. And you therefore, of course, know that whenever you make a table, you should define the column headers with !scope="col" and the first cell of each row with !scope="row", so that screen reader software can parse the nonsensical soup that is the modern wikitable, and allow readers using it to understand your table just like sighted readers instead of getting mangled garbage.
You probably don't know, but maybe you did, that you're also supposed to add captions to your tables with |+ Caption Text so that screen readers, which need clear guidance to allow the reader to "scroll to a table", can do so. And that if such a caption would be the same as a section header you can "hide" it with the {{ sronly}} template like |+ {{sronly|Invisible Caption Text}}
But I guarantee that you didn't know that, just like the "|+" thing works for regular wikitables, that our video game table templates like {{ Video game titles}} and {{ Video game table}} also support table captions, using the handy |caption= parameter! Mainly because I added it to those templates like 30 minutes ago. But now you know, so do your non-visual readers a favor. -- Pres N 03:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not a gamer. Would RuPaul's Drag Race: The Mobile Game be considered part of WikiProject Video games and would Template:Infobox video game be the most appropriate infobox for this article? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I've been spending last several days editing the History of video games article to de-emphasize its focus around console generations (though it is hard to hide that there are key points in VG history that happen on console generation end points like the crash of 83. This is by no means complete or fully sourced, but this was a key step. A second step I need to do is to deemphasize similarly on History of video game consoles (focusing more on the larger trends of the industry and technology and again, not on the hard lines of generations outside of where there is clear delination). This is not to say I'm fully removing generations: my plan is to move that to this page that I've drafted User:Masem/drafts/Home video game console generations that presented the console breakdown from that viewpoint, and the generations will still be called out where appropriate in the console history article.
Does this look like a sensible plan moving forward? -- Masem ( t) 20:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Pinging this group at the wonderful suggestion of Irisdescent. I took on an attempt to rescue Draft:Melbourne_Queer_Games_Festival which was speedied, as I think it's an important topic. Alas, my knowledge of video games is minimal. Is anyone available to see what else could be done with this? Thanks StarM 21:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey guys, I wanted to translate List of Ubisoft games to Czech, but I was confused by a "new" system, which I've never seen before in the English Wikipedia. It wouldn't go through the rules there (in the Czech Wikipedia), it's not standard and overcomplicated (some games are even mentioned numerous times). I know it's common to add all release dates in the infobox, but in the list? So I wanted to ask, if this kind of list is normal practice here. Thank you RiniX ( talk) 16:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
A longtime target for cleanup for me has been Characters of Halo, which has a long and rather torturous history of different names and going from being treated as a 'list' to an 'article'. ( List of Halo characters, List of Halo series characters, Characters in the Halo series, List of Halo characters again before its present naming.) At this point, though, working on cleanup, I'm wondering if it's better off back as a list.
Even with the high inclusion threshold of "this is only for major recurring characters", there's 30+ novels and more than a dozen games. That's a ton of characters, and a lot of them don't actually have the sources for meaningful commentary (Major supporting characters like Linda and Kelly, palling around with Master Chief, I won't be able to find a non-primary source for basic info beyond "this character appears here", which makes me think a shorter list structure is a better format.) There's also not much I can write to make a cohesive reception or even development section at this point because the franchise has two major developers and we're talking about 20 years of development; I also don't have sources that talk about the characters of Halo in aggregate, so any reception section is going to boil down to "they liked these characters/they didn't like these ones" (and unnamed will be the characters who don't have any reception info about them.) My current line of thinking is to gut it down, stripping out plot details beyond simple lists of appearances and voice acting/portrayal credits for characters who don't have real coverage, and maybe stick the faction organizations into tables versus prose. Thoughts? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi all; I was hoping for advice on making a new article on the topic of Minecraft Anarchy Servers. I recently saw that there wasn't very much information on Minecraft anarchy servers here on Wikipedia. There's a page for Minecraft servers as a whole; and on that page they do have a list of notable servers, including one anarchy server, 2b2t. Side note: The 2b2t article is excellent; it does a really great job of covering the 2b2t server in detail. However there are other notable anarchy servers, and semi-anarchy servers, and I think having a page on the genre as a whole might be helpful.
I do have a draft article submitted for review currently, here-> Draft:Minecraft_Anarchy_Servers, but I'd like to improve it while it's pending review. Previous advice from the Teahouse forum I posted a question in indicated the sources for this draft probably wouldn't be sufficient for an article. I've since edited it with their advice in mind, adding a RockPaperShotgun article citation, and a Gamepur article citation and I removed wiki/unreliable website citations.
Overall though I think the article is still lacking good sources. If anybody has any suggestions or ideas for better sources on this topic or just suggestions in general, I'd really appreciate your input! Like I said before I originally I posted a question about this topic in the Teahouse Forum, but I was redirected to this community by another user(shoutout to User:Panini!), since that discussion page is more for general questions about being an editor. Since this forum is specific to video game topics they thought it might be better suited to this topic. This was the original post if anyone wanted to check it out: original Wikipedia-Teahouse Post Thanks for reading! Its choosday innit ( talk) 18:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.5 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. -- Pres N 04:04, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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A discussion on whether villains should be categorized by gender or lumped together, if anyone has an opinion. This would cover categories for video game characters. Liz Read! Talk! 20:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
See Mario, Princess Peach, Waluigi and other Mario character pages - was there consensus to add colours to the character infoboxes or was it done unilaterally? I haven't been too active on Wikipedia recently but I think I remember previous consensus being that such colours are inappropriate as they are an unnecessary distraction. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 03:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
On a related note, I have nominated Template:Pokémon color, Template:Mario color, Template:Donkey Kong color, Template:The Legend of Zelda color and Template:Animal Crossing color for deletion as their sole purpose was to add the color of their respective franchises into infoboxes. Any input is appreciated here. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 05:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I have started a merge/redirect discussion for List of Dragon Age: Inquisition downloadable content here. All opinions are welcome. OceanHok ( talk) 13:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Currently we have the template {{ History of video games}}. We also, separately, have {{ Video games by country}} which appears duplicative of this, though as I noted when this latter template was nominated for deletion, most of the country articles are more than just history or omit it all together.
That said, I'd like to suggest making the History template a containerized navbox, to include three sub navboxes:
For everyone, they would not have to do anything, but I'd want to make sure this makes sense before doing it, or if there are other possible "history" series that could be added. -- Masem ( t) 20:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I have made this change, I do not expect it to impact any pages but just making sure people are aware it has happened. -- Masem ( t) 19:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
After a couple of reverts (one by me and another by anonymous editor), by TheJoebro64 and Popcornfud both believe the fan remake AM2R should be included in Metroid as part of the series' history. The MOS doesn't cover how fan remakes should be covered or where they belong, but based on my experience fan remakes or fan content that is notable falls under the legacy section.
AM2R is noteworthy and definitely does deserve mention, but it's influence or impact on the series itself isn't confirmed, its more legacy content. According to the creators of Metroid, AM2R did not influence the creation of the official remake [3]. I however do think that certain fan remakes should be included in the history if confirmed that they influenced the main series. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 21:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Please see: Talk:Resident Evil 4#Updates needed: platforms, and remake. Short version: The infobox is wrong; and we need a Resident Evil 4 (2014 video game) to go along with other such remake articles in this franchise. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
It's high time we had an actual article at
Virtual-reality game. It used to redirect to
Virtual reality#Video games but there is no such section (I've fixed it for now to just go to the top of that article). But it shouldn't redirect there anyway. I've tagged that redir with {{
R with possibilities}}
. We have an entire
Category:Virtual reality games but not {{
Catmain}}
article for it. We should have that separate article on the game type/genre/style/platform, whatever you want to call it, since it is not the same topic as the hardware, and we have other articles on every other type of video game, and VR game design is significantly different from traditional 2D, 2.5D, and 3D game dev, both technologically and as to game mechanics. However, I don't have a background in this (I don't have a system capable of doing modern VR, and I don't have a headset), so someone who knows what they're writing about should take this on. PS: Other redirects should point to the eventual final article (or section, if it starts as a section again):
Virtual-reality games,
Virtual-reality gaming,
Virtual reality game,
Virtual reality games,
Virtual reality gaming,
VR game,
VR games,
VR gaming, maybe also "... development" redirs too, if there's eventually a section specifically about that. —
SMcCandlish
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¢ 😼 09:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Anyway, that's a fantastic off-the-cuff new article, already twice as good I would have expected so soon! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I added a little bit in there and might do more in the future. After Paper Mario was promoted to GT I've been having an identity crisis and have been jumping from project to project. P anini 🥪 02:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I found that the PC mod of a Yakuza game revealed that the player could use the face of Takayuki Yagami from Judgment (video game) in Yakuza 2 Kiwami but I couldn't find anything about Sega's staff commenting on the news in response. Tintor2 ( talk) 14:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I've notified at the Devil May Cry template talk, but I wasn't sure if it'll get noticed. Per the uploader's description of in File:DMC-logo.png used as the logo in the info box, it's a fan creation, not an official one from Capcom. Recommending that it should be replaced with namely this version. - 23.241.11.196 ( talk) 04:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I am questioning the need for the Category:Single-platform video games tree. It is poorly defined, does the Virtual Console or other similar services count as grounds for the category's removal? Does a game getting remade count? What is the purpose of Category:Wii and Wii U-only games? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 18:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
According to @ Dgpop, "Basic gameplay descriptions don't need citations, per project VG". [4] I reckon that a lack of sources is only excusable for plot sections as the information is easily obtained in the game while being rarely covered in-depth by secondary sources (as opposed to gameplay). However, neither that nor Dgpop's claim appear to be written down anywhere (as far as I can tell). Seeking some clarity/consensus and a definite, citable guideline for this. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:47, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Despite me juggling three different projects, I've considered doing a cleanup on Mario. One of the issues brought up on the talk page mentioned that it needs to be cut of prose about the series he stars in. So, to what extent should I bring up his series? P anini 🥪 15:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Mario has a lot different appearances and has a variety of different looks throughout. I added an image of Paper Mario in there and looking at the Mickey Mouse article there are a lot of fair use images showing his different roles there. Would it be fine if I did something similar at this article, just a set of images showing Mario in his notable appearances? P anini 🥪 10:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I might come up with a lot of questions about this kinda messy article, so if you don't mind I'll post them here in bulleted form. I know this getting kinda lengthy but Mario is one of our only top-rated articles and is considered a level 4 vital article.
I saw this over at the MOS talk pages WT:MOS#Use of "Gameography" vs "Ludography" in headings for biographies which our project likely has interest in helping to address. -- Masem ( t) 18:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
It seems like Square Enix has revised their name to "Life is Strange" (the grammatically correct) to the previous "Life Is Strange" according to their website. I'm wondering if we should revise all the titles back. The Majority of sources address the series and games with the lower case "is". What do you think? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 20:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Always capitalized: (...) Every verb, including forms of to be (Be, Am, Is, Are, Being, Was, Were, Been)
Hello, I'm Matthew. I'm here on behalf of my employer, Unity Software. I've disclosed my conflict of interest on my profile and at Talk:Unity (game engine), where I am proposing updates to the article. My most recent request suggests adding information about the game engine's usage statistics and efforts to expand the game engine's use beyond gaming. Because of my COI, I don't make direct edits. I did add my request to the edit request queue, and because it's quite backlogged, I thought I'd post here as well. Thanks! Matthewpruitt ( talk) 22:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I took a lengthy break in January from working my way through Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Reference library/Computer Gaming World, going through the first several years of the run from 1981 and finishing up through 1988. While on this break, I used the time that I would normally have set aside for going through the magazines to instead go back through the articles that I created to find more reviews for them. I found quite a few more sources that way, and I figured I would share my findings here. I will start adding content from these sources as I find the time, but for now I added links to them in the "External links" section. If you would like to also help me work on them, that would of course be appreciated. I would like to thank some of the users who have already worked on some of these, including such users as Archrogue, Bilby, Dgpop, DocFreeman24, FOARP, Griggorio2, JimmyBlackwing, and users like Waxworker and Ylee who have helped out in the past on similar articles from this era.
While going through that magazine from last summer up through earlier this year, I started (or restored, in a few cases) many articles which have at least three or four WP:RS sources, and may well have more:
Along with those, I was also able to start articles for a number of games which exceed the minimums of the WP:GNG, and have lots of potential for improvement, including: The Battle of Shiloh, Star Blazer, Guadalcanal Campaign, Galactic Gladiators, Seafox, Protector II, Time Runner, Millionaire: The Stock Market Simulation, Microbe: The Anatomical Adventure, Battle for Normandy, Computer Ambush, Chess 7.0, Old Ironsides, The Blade of Blackpoole, Combat Leader, Operation Whirlwind, Geopolitique 1990, Starbowl Football, Carrier Force, Tycoon: The Commodity Market Simulation, Baron: The Real Estate Simulation, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Fighter Command: The Battle of Britain, Spare Change, Rails West!, Lordlings of Yore, Panzer-Jagd, Gulf Strike, Imperium Galactum, Reforger '88, Squire: The Financial Planning Simulation, Six-Gun Shootout, Crusade in Europe, Decision in the Desert, Golden Oldies: Volume 1 - Computer Software Classics, U.S.A.A.F. - United States Army Air Force, Battle of Antietam, Paul Whitehead Teaches Chess, Transylvania, Nam, Mech Brigade, Oribter, Grand Slam: World Class Tennis, Major Motion, Pure-Stat Baseball, World Class Leader Board, Hoops, Rebel Charge at Chickamauga, Street Sports Baseball, GFL Championship Football, Gridiron!, Super Bowl Sunday, Computer Quarterback, BlackJack Academy, Infiltrator II, Tomahawk, Thunderchopper, Super Huey UH-IX, Apollo 18: Mission to the Moon, Magnetron, Super Cycle, Superbike Challenge, Shirley Muldowney's Top Fuel Challenge, Sons of Liberty, Echelon, Ports of Call, Return to Atlantis, Twilight's Ransom, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Knight Games, Paladin, Steel Thunder, Stealth Mission.
Also up through January, I had spent quite a bit of time building up parts of the Reference Library, in particular adding game reviews from several different computing magazines, mostly from the 1980s. While searching for additional sources on my creations on my lengthy break from CGW, I also spent my time building a list of retro game articles for which I had found at least three reviews from my work on the Reference Library. I may eventually start articles for some of these at some point, but for the foreseeable future I have no intentions on doing so in case anyone may wish to have a go at starting any of them. I included links to the Mobygames page (anything without a Mobygames page is marked with an asterisk instead), as well as a link to each review that I found (there are undoubtedly additional reviews out there for most of these):
Hopefully something you see here inspires you! BOZ ( talk) 03:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject Video games editors are welcome to review this request to update the History section of Jam City. I have a financial conflict of interest, as I offer these updates on behalf of Jam City as part of my work with Beutler Ink, so I'm looking for other editors to review. Thanks for considering, Danilo Two ( talk) 13:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Update: An editor is reviewing this request. Danilo Two ( talk) 13:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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Most of that long list of categories is years old, but tagged this week in a big spree by Thibbs. -- Pres N 03:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
RTGame was recreated after the an AfD delete result from December 2020. I'll let others decide if it needs to renominating for deletion. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 21:40, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm talking about WP:SHORTDESCRIPTION.
Do we have, or can we create, standards on how short is defined in these things? Articles on my watchlist are constantly in a state of flux between "video game" to "2021 video game" to "2021 Nintendo video game" to "2021 Nintendo platforming video game" to "2021 Nintendo action adventure platforming video game" and I never quite know where to interject. Sergecross73 msg me 15:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
I wanted to revive this discussion, as I feel that it didn't receive enough attention at the time, and those who opposed it don't appear to have read it correctly. Basically, the proposal was that we add OpenCritic's percentage recommended score to Reception sections alongside Metacritic's weighted average, similar to how film articles list the Rotten Tomatoes approval rating alongside Metacritic's score (see here and here for some film examples). An example of this change would be:
Of course, this all depends on whether or not OpenCritic can be considered reliable. Previous discussions—though ultimately inconclusive—appear (at least to me) to lean towards yes or maybe, with most concerns stemming instead from the redundancy of using both Metacritic and OpenCritic scores. However, with this proposal, redundancy should not be a concern; we can use Metacritic for scores, and OpenCritic for percentages. This also reduces the risk of relying too heavily on Metacritic.
Personally, I support this proposal, though I mostly just wanted to revive it to give it the proper discussion it deserves. I'd love to hear your thoughts. – Rhain ☔ 02:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
The PC release of Cyberpunk 2077 received "generally favorable" reviews from critics, according to Metacritic. The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of the game received "mixed or average reviews".We could just add: On review aggregator OpenCritic, the game received a critical recommendation score of 62%, with a banner stating that the developer "intentionally sought to hide the true state of the game on Xbox One and PS4". A percentage of critics who recommend the site is an absolutely valid addition to what MC offers. Using one (basically unprecedented) edge-case doesn't even seem like an exception to that. It only takes a sentence to give the additional information, and (I think) contextualises it better than MC's three percentages. — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 00:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
For numeric reviews written by top critics, publications may elect to set their own threshhold for what is and isn't recommended.OpenCritic can also assess written articles based on whether the critic outright recommends the game:
A critic specified they would recommend the game to general gamers over other games releasing at a similar time when uploading their review metadata to OpenCritic's content management system.The more I think about this system, the more I like it. Their transparency really works for me; their %Rec is so much improved over Metacritic's numbers (which still, I think, don't really mean anything to readers other than either 1) comparing it to other games they like, or 2) "how close to 100 is it/far away from 50 is it? — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 05:12, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't like that they don't differentiate between platformsThis argument has been made a few times and I'm not sure I understand. Most sources don't score games differently per platform anymore, so it makes sense that review aggregators don't either. The only sources that give platform independent scores are platform-specific sources in the first place. I'm actually surprised that MC still splits scores by platform. TarkusAB talk/ contrib 15:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
so it makes sense that review aggregators don't eitherExcept.... MC does and GR did. And often times there's quite a difference in the scores, especially with dealing with ports to handhelds or last generation systems. In particular we still see quite a bit of swing between PC and consoles (even "current gen"), depending on whether the consoles are suffering extra issues or the console port to PC was handled poorly. -- ferret ( talk) 15:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Why was this restored from the archives and the closing comment deleted? Sergecross73 msg me 10:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! A while back I created a page for the indie company Soma Games. Red Phoenix suggested that I should bring the article up here on the Project to have people look at it and give feedback so that it's not all written by one person and to ensure we clean up any traces of inccorect tone or Peacock words. I highly recommend reading through the article's Talk page before reading the article so you can get an understanding for the context that the article was written in and not accidentally assume bad faith :)
About eight months have passed without anyone organically finding the article to read it over (nor responding to my previous request to review it), so that is why I'm bringing attention to it here on the Project page again to make sure the article can be totally shaped up to align with all of Wikipedia's standards! I just want to emphasize one more time not to mistake accidental ignorance for intentional promotion or to interpret it as intentional disregard for article rules but rather to assume good faith about everything that was written.
Thanks so much everyone! Emitewiki2 ( talk) 17:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The two other founding members of Soma Games, Rande Bruhn and John Bergquist, began mentoring and helping Skaggs in 2005 after meeting him at a Christian retreat event called Bootcamp NW. It was during this time that Soma developed the ideas for its first games, GRoG, Dark Glass, and The Race.
From Fusion Retro Books. -- Masem ( t) 01:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Aw yeah, time for another "list of <type of video game>" to be unearthed! This time we get List of vaporware, which, from the 5 seconds I spent looking at it, includes a game (Commander Keen: The Universe Is Toast!) that the developer literally never developed past coming up with a name and spending a couple days noodling around ideas before deciding that Wolfenstein 3D was a way cooler idea, so. Maybe not the best inclusion criteria here. -- Pres N 04:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a user mostly active nowadays over at Wikisource, and I recently started a WikiProject over there with the same name as this one concerning video game transcriptions, and identifying video games that happen to be in the public domain or otherwise freely licensed. I noted on that page that "[no video games] have expired copyrights, and PD-not-renewed or no-notice don't apply". Oh how wrong I think I was when I wrote that...
I recently discovered a very important legal fact, that applies in the United States, that might mean that there may be some handful of video games out there after all that fell into the public domain due to failure to comply to formalities. That legal fact is that "[works first published in the US, that were published from] 1978 through 28 February 1989 [that were] published without a copyright notice, but without subsequent registration at the copyright office within 5 years [are] in the public domain due to failure to comply with required formalities." (Source: Commons:Hirtle chart) But if this is the case, then it appears to be that my post here on this very discussion page is the first time that anyone has called any attention to this legal loophole in terms of 1970s-1980s video games.
To sum all that up, if a game was released in the US before the specific date of February 28, 1989, without a copyright notice, and was never registered with the US Copyright Office, then it should be in the public domain and free of all copyright restrictions.
So why is this important? Well, if there are any video games that happen to be in the public domain, usage of their data (i.e. screenshots of the game etc.) on wikis such as Wikipedia and Wikisource will be easier. Specifically for Wikipedia, since we won't have to comply with the fair use rules, this will allow for more complete and better quality supplements to articles.
I wanted to appeal to you guys to help me find some possible candidate games for me, so I can add them to a list of public domain video games. To reiterate, the requirements I ask for are:
If you know of or can find any games that meet these requirements, please let me know here and I can do the rest of the research (if you hadn't already done that yourself).
But if you want to do the last part of the research for the final confirmation, a few simple searches at the Copyright Office online should usually suffice, since all their post-1978 records are located there. Here is an example (for reference) of a copyright office record for a video game that was released during the requested timespan.
Thanks! PseudoSkull ( talk) 07:50, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Currently working on Animal Crossing: New Horizons. How should I organize the "Updates" section? A list? A paragraph of "this update had this"? Simply mention "The game is updated" in a paragraph or so? Should it even be here at all? P anini 🥪 12:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
As we have a unique situation in this console generation that games from the Xbox One / PS4 can be played on the Xbox Series X/S / PS5 without patching, but later receive unique performance patch upgrade to these newer consoles, I'm trying to wrap my head around how to handle platforms and release dates in the infobox here. Specific case is Overwatch, which has been playable on the Xbox Series X/S from the Xbox One version since the console launch but got yesterday a patch specific to that version to take advantage of the newer console hardware (higher FPS for example). But as best I can tell, there's no new special release or anything, it's just a patch.
Now, it makes sense that we do not automatically add "Xbox Series X/S" to all Xbox One games as a platform (same with "PS5" to all PS4 games) due to the nature of backwards compatibility on these consoles. But as I think this practice may start being more common, a patch to create the new console version rather than a discrete wholly new release, should we consider that when such a patch is available as to be the date of release for the game on that platform, and thus by extension, inclusion of that platform, for infobox purposes? All this should be clearly explained in the body, of course. -- Masem ( t) 14:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey all. Namco has passed its GAN review today, so I've decided to file a second peer review for it as part of my plan to make it an FAC by the end of the year. The GAN was conducted by an experienced editor, so hopefully there's no glaring issues with the page. Feel free to provide any comments. Namcokid 47 20:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Matthew and am an employee of Unity Software. I've disclosed this on my profile and at Talk:Unity (game engine), where I have proposed some article updates. Most recently, I've posted a question about adding some of the different ways Unity's engine has been used. I’m hoping another editor will take a look, and make the changes on my behalf given my COI. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Matthewpruitt ( talk) 19:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Would anyone here mind if i change this article from roguelike to roguelite? -- Trade ( talk) 22:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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As a part of the move to improve the quality of the WikiProject's high and top-importance articles, some editors have been translating the featured article Satoru Iwata into Chinese.
Most of the translation is done by me, and there are some people actively checking the sources, correcting my translation and creating relevant articles. During translation I encountered some disturbing issues with the article from English Wikipedia. Looks like there is little to no activity in the article's talk page, so I put them here.
Iwata purchased an HP-65, the first programmable calculator, in 1974.As most of the sources claim that it is an HP-65, this particular source from 4Gamer, a reliable source, claims HP-67. Japanese Wikipedia adopts this and says HP-67. I personally believe that 4Gamer made a mistake, but I am not 100 percent sure. I checked against the original source (book by Inoue, translated into Chinese), and I see failed verification everywhere.
The several simple number games Iwata produced, such as Volleyball and Missile Attack, made use of an electronic calculator he shared with his schoolmates.This sentence cited two sources, and looks like the second one, from news.com.au, have nothing to do with this claim.
Volleyball and Missile Attackpart.
Tomohiko Uematsu, an engineering professor, noted Iwata's proficiency with software programming and remarked that Iwata could write programs faster and more accurately than any of his other students.I checked on the original source in Japanese. It looks like that Tomohiko Uematsu is Mr. Iwata's classmate who later became a professor. Also, he compared Iwata's programming ability against other classmates, not his students.
Nintendo initially contacted several other developers to produce Open Tournament Golf; however, all of them declined as they did not believe the large amount of data could be stored within an NES cartridge.I checked the source. It actually refers to Golf, not Open Tournament Golf. The source says that "...After that, we made F-1 Race, ...", it implies that the golf game is released before F-1 Race (1984), thus ruling out the possibility of NES Open Tournament Golf.
Iwata also promoted Miyamoto, Genyo Takeda, Yoshihiro Mori, and Shinji Hatano to representative directors on the company's board of directors, equaling his own position.Neither of the two sources support this sentence. This report from Nintendo partly supports this claim, but it showed that Iwata's becoming president and Miyamoto etc.'s becoming directors happened at the same time, so I couldn't verify that Miyamoto, etc. were promoted by Iwata.
Due to his success, Barron's included Iwata on their list of the 30 top CEOs worldwide from 2007 to 2009.This sentence cites two sources, one in 2007 and one in 2009. I couldn't verify that he is also included on the list in year 2008. Maybe that Barron's source also includes this information, but it requires subscription.
The fiscal year is represented by the calendar year in which the period begins, found in fiscal year#Japan. I'm pretty sure Nintendo follows this rule. Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 01:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Although he acknowledged the practice as a viable means of promoting games in the short-term, he considered the model outdated and not a sound direction for core development.Completely failed verification. The cited Engadget source have nothing to do with "free-to-start". The Time source mentioned nothing about
promoting games in the short term. Also, according to the source, Mr. Iwata did not see "free-to-start" as
outdatedand "a bad direction for core development". What he said was that some people believe that traditional packaging model was outdated, but he did not think so. He believed that both "free-to-start" and traditional models have their suitable scenarios. Correct me if I am wrong.
Following Iwata's death, general directors Shigeru Miyamoto and Genyo Takeda temporarily managed the company together.Miyamoto and Takeda are not general directors. They are representative directors. The CNNMoney source didn't say that they were general directors, either.
Buddhist funeral services for Iwata were held in Kyoto on July 16 and 17. Despite stormy weather produced by Typhoon Nangka, an estimated 4,100 people attended to pay their respectsI checked the three sources in this sentence. Excluding the WSJ source which requires a subscription, the remaining two sources made no mention to
Buddhist. One of them mentioned "Japanese custom", and I didn't really understand what's the link between buddist and custom. Also to mention, the
Typhoon Nangkapart is not direct enough. Sources mentioned that there was a typhoon, without saying its name. I think that there was only one typhoon in Japan at that time so I believe that might be fine.
and his ashes were buried at an undisclosed place in KyotoSource did not claim that. It only claimed that his remains were cremated, but made no mention of its burying place.
As the source checking is still ongoing, there might be more problems throwing out by our community. Please help us by clarifying the facts from the article.
With gratitude, the sincere one representing the Chinese Wikipedia WikiProject Video games community: Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 15:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@ GamerPro64, Masem, Cyclonebiskit, and PresN: Looks like not many people is caring about this thread. Is it a good idea that I put it into a Featured Article Review? Milky· Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 16:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
The article about Accolade is under review. I've been working on this one a while, with a lot of painstaking reference fixes and edits. But it might end up being archived (default fail) due to a lack of general reviewers. There's already been a thorough review of the references, and at least one general review, so it really just needs one or two more pairs of eyes on it. I don't mind doing some QPQ to review anyone else's work, if that's acceptable. Shooterwalker ( talk) 00:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Super Mario 64 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. HumanxAnthro ( talk) 18:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I've come across a new editor who claims to be professionally connected to the subject of the good article The Nomad Soul. They wanted to add their name to the infobox before contacting me on my talk page. What should we do in this situation? I would like to get your opinions. ภץאคгöร 15:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to make of these two categories. They might be non-defining, especially when the functionality is baked into the commercial engine the game uses, but could be few enough to be considered non-ubiquitous like Category:Unity (game engine) games, which was deleted a few weeks ago. IceWelder [ ✉] 16:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
This is something that caught my eye during the review process of Kirby's Dream Course that The Rambling Man brought up: Was there ever a discussion here on Wikipedia that citing video games directly to list the development staff was valid or not? Just curious to know. (P.S: The closest things i could find were these three discussions specifically: Video game manual citations: Include uncredited, but verified authors?, Using game manuals as a source, Sourcing the games, official sources, and Kotaku.) Roberth Martinez ( talk) 00:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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As experienced editors, you all have, of course, at least skimmed through WP:ACCESS to learn about providing accessibility to readers using screen-reading software, which includes both blind and partially-sighted readers and people who find reading glowing text exhausting, because you want your articles to be read by as many people as possible. And you therefore, of course, know that whenever you make a table, you should define the column headers with !scope="col" and the first cell of each row with !scope="row", so that screen reader software can parse the nonsensical soup that is the modern wikitable, and allow readers using it to understand your table just like sighted readers instead of getting mangled garbage.
You probably don't know, but maybe you did, that you're also supposed to add captions to your tables with |+ Caption Text so that screen readers, which need clear guidance to allow the reader to "scroll to a table", can do so. And that if such a caption would be the same as a section header you can "hide" it with the {{ sronly}} template like |+ {{sronly|Invisible Caption Text}}
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Sorry, I'm not a gamer. Would RuPaul's Drag Race: The Mobile Game be considered part of WikiProject Video games and would Template:Infobox video game be the most appropriate infobox for this article? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I've been spending last several days editing the History of video games article to de-emphasize its focus around console generations (though it is hard to hide that there are key points in VG history that happen on console generation end points like the crash of 83. This is by no means complete or fully sourced, but this was a key step. A second step I need to do is to deemphasize similarly on History of video game consoles (focusing more on the larger trends of the industry and technology and again, not on the hard lines of generations outside of where there is clear delination). This is not to say I'm fully removing generations: my plan is to move that to this page that I've drafted User:Masem/drafts/Home video game console generations that presented the console breakdown from that viewpoint, and the generations will still be called out where appropriate in the console history article.
Does this look like a sensible plan moving forward? -- Masem ( t) 20:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Pinging this group at the wonderful suggestion of Irisdescent. I took on an attempt to rescue Draft:Melbourne_Queer_Games_Festival which was speedied, as I think it's an important topic. Alas, my knowledge of video games is minimal. Is anyone available to see what else could be done with this? Thanks StarM 21:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey guys, I wanted to translate List of Ubisoft games to Czech, but I was confused by a "new" system, which I've never seen before in the English Wikipedia. It wouldn't go through the rules there (in the Czech Wikipedia), it's not standard and overcomplicated (some games are even mentioned numerous times). I know it's common to add all release dates in the infobox, but in the list? So I wanted to ask, if this kind of list is normal practice here. Thank you RiniX ( talk) 16:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
A longtime target for cleanup for me has been Characters of Halo, which has a long and rather torturous history of different names and going from being treated as a 'list' to an 'article'. ( List of Halo characters, List of Halo series characters, Characters in the Halo series, List of Halo characters again before its present naming.) At this point, though, working on cleanup, I'm wondering if it's better off back as a list.
Even with the high inclusion threshold of "this is only for major recurring characters", there's 30+ novels and more than a dozen games. That's a ton of characters, and a lot of them don't actually have the sources for meaningful commentary (Major supporting characters like Linda and Kelly, palling around with Master Chief, I won't be able to find a non-primary source for basic info beyond "this character appears here", which makes me think a shorter list structure is a better format.) There's also not much I can write to make a cohesive reception or even development section at this point because the franchise has two major developers and we're talking about 20 years of development; I also don't have sources that talk about the characters of Halo in aggregate, so any reception section is going to boil down to "they liked these characters/they didn't like these ones" (and unnamed will be the characters who don't have any reception info about them.) My current line of thinking is to gut it down, stripping out plot details beyond simple lists of appearances and voice acting/portrayal credits for characters who don't have real coverage, and maybe stick the faction organizations into tables versus prose. Thoughts? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi all; I was hoping for advice on making a new article on the topic of Minecraft Anarchy Servers. I recently saw that there wasn't very much information on Minecraft anarchy servers here on Wikipedia. There's a page for Minecraft servers as a whole; and on that page they do have a list of notable servers, including one anarchy server, 2b2t. Side note: The 2b2t article is excellent; it does a really great job of covering the 2b2t server in detail. However there are other notable anarchy servers, and semi-anarchy servers, and I think having a page on the genre as a whole might be helpful.
I do have a draft article submitted for review currently, here-> Draft:Minecraft_Anarchy_Servers, but I'd like to improve it while it's pending review. Previous advice from the Teahouse forum I posted a question in indicated the sources for this draft probably wouldn't be sufficient for an article. I've since edited it with their advice in mind, adding a RockPaperShotgun article citation, and a Gamepur article citation and I removed wiki/unreliable website citations.
Overall though I think the article is still lacking good sources. If anybody has any suggestions or ideas for better sources on this topic or just suggestions in general, I'd really appreciate your input! Like I said before I originally I posted a question about this topic in the Teahouse Forum, but I was redirected to this community by another user(shoutout to User:Panini!), since that discussion page is more for general questions about being an editor. Since this forum is specific to video game topics they thought it might be better suited to this topic. This was the original post if anyone wanted to check it out: original Wikipedia-Teahouse Post Thanks for reading! Its choosday innit ( talk) 18:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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A discussion on whether villains should be categorized by gender or lumped together, if anyone has an opinion. This would cover categories for video game characters. Liz Read! Talk! 20:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
See Mario, Princess Peach, Waluigi and other Mario character pages - was there consensus to add colours to the character infoboxes or was it done unilaterally? I haven't been too active on Wikipedia recently but I think I remember previous consensus being that such colours are inappropriate as they are an unnecessary distraction. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 03:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
On a related note, I have nominated Template:Pokémon color, Template:Mario color, Template:Donkey Kong color, Template:The Legend of Zelda color and Template:Animal Crossing color for deletion as their sole purpose was to add the color of their respective franchises into infoboxes. Any input is appreciated here. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 05:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I have started a merge/redirect discussion for List of Dragon Age: Inquisition downloadable content here. All opinions are welcome. OceanHok ( talk) 13:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Currently we have the template {{ History of video games}}. We also, separately, have {{ Video games by country}} which appears duplicative of this, though as I noted when this latter template was nominated for deletion, most of the country articles are more than just history or omit it all together.
That said, I'd like to suggest making the History template a containerized navbox, to include three sub navboxes:
For everyone, they would not have to do anything, but I'd want to make sure this makes sense before doing it, or if there are other possible "history" series that could be added. -- Masem ( t) 20:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I have made this change, I do not expect it to impact any pages but just making sure people are aware it has happened. -- Masem ( t) 19:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
After a couple of reverts (one by me and another by anonymous editor), by TheJoebro64 and Popcornfud both believe the fan remake AM2R should be included in Metroid as part of the series' history. The MOS doesn't cover how fan remakes should be covered or where they belong, but based on my experience fan remakes or fan content that is notable falls under the legacy section.
AM2R is noteworthy and definitely does deserve mention, but it's influence or impact on the series itself isn't confirmed, its more legacy content. According to the creators of Metroid, AM2R did not influence the creation of the official remake [3]. I however do think that certain fan remakes should be included in the history if confirmed that they influenced the main series. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 21:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Please see: Talk:Resident Evil 4#Updates needed: platforms, and remake. Short version: The infobox is wrong; and we need a Resident Evil 4 (2014 video game) to go along with other such remake articles in this franchise. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
It's high time we had an actual article at
Virtual-reality game. It used to redirect to
Virtual reality#Video games but there is no such section (I've fixed it for now to just go to the top of that article). But it shouldn't redirect there anyway. I've tagged that redir with {{
R with possibilities}}
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article for it. We should have that separate article on the game type/genre/style/platform, whatever you want to call it, since it is not the same topic as the hardware, and we have other articles on every other type of video game, and VR game design is significantly different from traditional 2D, 2.5D, and 3D game dev, both technologically and as to game mechanics. However, I don't have a background in this (I don't have a system capable of doing modern VR, and I don't have a headset), so someone who knows what they're writing about should take this on. PS: Other redirects should point to the eventual final article (or section, if it starts as a section again):
Virtual-reality games,
Virtual-reality gaming,
Virtual reality game,
Virtual reality games,
Virtual reality gaming,
VR game,
VR games,
VR gaming, maybe also "... development" redirs too, if there's eventually a section specifically about that. —
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Anyway, that's a fantastic off-the-cuff new article, already twice as good I would have expected so soon! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I added a little bit in there and might do more in the future. After Paper Mario was promoted to GT I've been having an identity crisis and have been jumping from project to project. P anini 🥪 02:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I found that the PC mod of a Yakuza game revealed that the player could use the face of Takayuki Yagami from Judgment (video game) in Yakuza 2 Kiwami but I couldn't find anything about Sega's staff commenting on the news in response. Tintor2 ( talk) 14:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I've notified at the Devil May Cry template talk, but I wasn't sure if it'll get noticed. Per the uploader's description of in File:DMC-logo.png used as the logo in the info box, it's a fan creation, not an official one from Capcom. Recommending that it should be replaced with namely this version. - 23.241.11.196 ( talk) 04:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I am questioning the need for the Category:Single-platform video games tree. It is poorly defined, does the Virtual Console or other similar services count as grounds for the category's removal? Does a game getting remade count? What is the purpose of Category:Wii and Wii U-only games? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 18:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
According to @ Dgpop, "Basic gameplay descriptions don't need citations, per project VG". [4] I reckon that a lack of sources is only excusable for plot sections as the information is easily obtained in the game while being rarely covered in-depth by secondary sources (as opposed to gameplay). However, neither that nor Dgpop's claim appear to be written down anywhere (as far as I can tell). Seeking some clarity/consensus and a definite, citable guideline for this. IceWelder [ ✉] 15:47, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Despite me juggling three different projects, I've considered doing a cleanup on Mario. One of the issues brought up on the talk page mentioned that it needs to be cut of prose about the series he stars in. So, to what extent should I bring up his series? P anini 🥪 15:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Mario has a lot different appearances and has a variety of different looks throughout. I added an image of Paper Mario in there and looking at the Mickey Mouse article there are a lot of fair use images showing his different roles there. Would it be fine if I did something similar at this article, just a set of images showing Mario in his notable appearances? P anini 🥪 10:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I might come up with a lot of questions about this kinda messy article, so if you don't mind I'll post them here in bulleted form. I know this getting kinda lengthy but Mario is one of our only top-rated articles and is considered a level 4 vital article.
I saw this over at the MOS talk pages WT:MOS#Use of "Gameography" vs "Ludography" in headings for biographies which our project likely has interest in helping to address. -- Masem ( t) 18:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
It seems like Square Enix has revised their name to "Life is Strange" (the grammatically correct) to the previous "Life Is Strange" according to their website. I'm wondering if we should revise all the titles back. The Majority of sources address the series and games with the lower case "is". What do you think? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 20:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Always capitalized: (...) Every verb, including forms of to be (Be, Am, Is, Are, Being, Was, Were, Been)
Hello, I'm Matthew. I'm here on behalf of my employer, Unity Software. I've disclosed my conflict of interest on my profile and at Talk:Unity (game engine), where I am proposing updates to the article. My most recent request suggests adding information about the game engine's usage statistics and efforts to expand the game engine's use beyond gaming. Because of my COI, I don't make direct edits. I did add my request to the edit request queue, and because it's quite backlogged, I thought I'd post here as well. Thanks! Matthewpruitt ( talk) 22:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I took a lengthy break in January from working my way through Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Reference library/Computer Gaming World, going through the first several years of the run from 1981 and finishing up through 1988. While on this break, I used the time that I would normally have set aside for going through the magazines to instead go back through the articles that I created to find more reviews for them. I found quite a few more sources that way, and I figured I would share my findings here. I will start adding content from these sources as I find the time, but for now I added links to them in the "External links" section. If you would like to also help me work on them, that would of course be appreciated. I would like to thank some of the users who have already worked on some of these, including such users as Archrogue, Bilby, Dgpop, DocFreeman24, FOARP, Griggorio2, JimmyBlackwing, and users like Waxworker and Ylee who have helped out in the past on similar articles from this era.
While going through that magazine from last summer up through earlier this year, I started (or restored, in a few cases) many articles which have at least three or four WP:RS sources, and may well have more:
Along with those, I was also able to start articles for a number of games which exceed the minimums of the WP:GNG, and have lots of potential for improvement, including: The Battle of Shiloh, Star Blazer, Guadalcanal Campaign, Galactic Gladiators, Seafox, Protector II, Time Runner, Millionaire: The Stock Market Simulation, Microbe: The Anatomical Adventure, Battle for Normandy, Computer Ambush, Chess 7.0, Old Ironsides, The Blade of Blackpoole, Combat Leader, Operation Whirlwind, Geopolitique 1990, Starbowl Football, Carrier Force, Tycoon: The Commodity Market Simulation, Baron: The Real Estate Simulation, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Fighter Command: The Battle of Britain, Spare Change, Rails West!, Lordlings of Yore, Panzer-Jagd, Gulf Strike, Imperium Galactum, Reforger '88, Squire: The Financial Planning Simulation, Six-Gun Shootout, Crusade in Europe, Decision in the Desert, Golden Oldies: Volume 1 - Computer Software Classics, U.S.A.A.F. - United States Army Air Force, Battle of Antietam, Paul Whitehead Teaches Chess, Transylvania, Nam, Mech Brigade, Oribter, Grand Slam: World Class Tennis, Major Motion, Pure-Stat Baseball, World Class Leader Board, Hoops, Rebel Charge at Chickamauga, Street Sports Baseball, GFL Championship Football, Gridiron!, Super Bowl Sunday, Computer Quarterback, BlackJack Academy, Infiltrator II, Tomahawk, Thunderchopper, Super Huey UH-IX, Apollo 18: Mission to the Moon, Magnetron, Super Cycle, Superbike Challenge, Shirley Muldowney's Top Fuel Challenge, Sons of Liberty, Echelon, Ports of Call, Return to Atlantis, Twilight's Ransom, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Knight Games, Paladin, Steel Thunder, Stealth Mission.
Also up through January, I had spent quite a bit of time building up parts of the Reference Library, in particular adding game reviews from several different computing magazines, mostly from the 1980s. While searching for additional sources on my creations on my lengthy break from CGW, I also spent my time building a list of retro game articles for which I had found at least three reviews from my work on the Reference Library. I may eventually start articles for some of these at some point, but for the foreseeable future I have no intentions on doing so in case anyone may wish to have a go at starting any of them. I included links to the Mobygames page (anything without a Mobygames page is marked with an asterisk instead), as well as a link to each review that I found (there are undoubtedly additional reviews out there for most of these):
Hopefully something you see here inspires you! BOZ ( talk) 03:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, WikiProject Video games editors are welcome to review this request to update the History section of Jam City. I have a financial conflict of interest, as I offer these updates on behalf of Jam City as part of my work with Beutler Ink, so I'm looking for other editors to review. Thanks for considering, Danilo Two ( talk) 13:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Update: An editor is reviewing this request. Danilo Two ( talk) 13:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.6 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. -- Pres N 03:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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Most of that long list of categories is years old, but tagged this week in a big spree by Thibbs. -- Pres N 03:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
RTGame was recreated after the an AfD delete result from December 2020. I'll let others decide if it needs to renominating for deletion. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 21:40, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm talking about WP:SHORTDESCRIPTION.
Do we have, or can we create, standards on how short is defined in these things? Articles on my watchlist are constantly in a state of flux between "video game" to "2021 video game" to "2021 Nintendo video game" to "2021 Nintendo platforming video game" to "2021 Nintendo action adventure platforming video game" and I never quite know where to interject. Sergecross73 msg me 15:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
I wanted to revive this discussion, as I feel that it didn't receive enough attention at the time, and those who opposed it don't appear to have read it correctly. Basically, the proposal was that we add OpenCritic's percentage recommended score to Reception sections alongside Metacritic's weighted average, similar to how film articles list the Rotten Tomatoes approval rating alongside Metacritic's score (see here and here for some film examples). An example of this change would be:
Of course, this all depends on whether or not OpenCritic can be considered reliable. Previous discussions—though ultimately inconclusive—appear (at least to me) to lean towards yes or maybe, with most concerns stemming instead from the redundancy of using both Metacritic and OpenCritic scores. However, with this proposal, redundancy should not be a concern; we can use Metacritic for scores, and OpenCritic for percentages. This also reduces the risk of relying too heavily on Metacritic.
Personally, I support this proposal, though I mostly just wanted to revive it to give it the proper discussion it deserves. I'd love to hear your thoughts. – Rhain ☔ 02:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
The PC release of Cyberpunk 2077 received "generally favorable" reviews from critics, according to Metacritic. The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of the game received "mixed or average reviews".We could just add: On review aggregator OpenCritic, the game received a critical recommendation score of 62%, with a banner stating that the developer "intentionally sought to hide the true state of the game on Xbox One and PS4". A percentage of critics who recommend the site is an absolutely valid addition to what MC offers. Using one (basically unprecedented) edge-case doesn't even seem like an exception to that. It only takes a sentence to give the additional information, and (I think) contextualises it better than MC's three percentages. — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 00:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
For numeric reviews written by top critics, publications may elect to set their own threshhold for what is and isn't recommended.OpenCritic can also assess written articles based on whether the critic outright recommends the game:
A critic specified they would recommend the game to general gamers over other games releasing at a similar time when uploading their review metadata to OpenCritic's content management system.The more I think about this system, the more I like it. Their transparency really works for me; their %Rec is so much improved over Metacritic's numbers (which still, I think, don't really mean anything to readers other than either 1) comparing it to other games they like, or 2) "how close to 100 is it/far away from 50 is it? — ImaginesTigers ( talk) 05:12, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't like that they don't differentiate between platformsThis argument has been made a few times and I'm not sure I understand. Most sources don't score games differently per platform anymore, so it makes sense that review aggregators don't either. The only sources that give platform independent scores are platform-specific sources in the first place. I'm actually surprised that MC still splits scores by platform. TarkusAB talk/ contrib 15:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
so it makes sense that review aggregators don't eitherExcept.... MC does and GR did. And often times there's quite a difference in the scores, especially with dealing with ports to handhelds or last generation systems. In particular we still see quite a bit of swing between PC and consoles (even "current gen"), depending on whether the consoles are suffering extra issues or the console port to PC was handled poorly. -- ferret ( talk) 15:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Why was this restored from the archives and the closing comment deleted? Sergecross73 msg me 10:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! A while back I created a page for the indie company Soma Games. Red Phoenix suggested that I should bring the article up here on the Project to have people look at it and give feedback so that it's not all written by one person and to ensure we clean up any traces of inccorect tone or Peacock words. I highly recommend reading through the article's Talk page before reading the article so you can get an understanding for the context that the article was written in and not accidentally assume bad faith :)
About eight months have passed without anyone organically finding the article to read it over (nor responding to my previous request to review it), so that is why I'm bringing attention to it here on the Project page again to make sure the article can be totally shaped up to align with all of Wikipedia's standards! I just want to emphasize one more time not to mistake accidental ignorance for intentional promotion or to interpret it as intentional disregard for article rules but rather to assume good faith about everything that was written.
Thanks so much everyone! Emitewiki2 ( talk) 17:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The two other founding members of Soma Games, Rande Bruhn and John Bergquist, began mentoring and helping Skaggs in 2005 after meeting him at a Christian retreat event called Bootcamp NW. It was during this time that Soma developed the ideas for its first games, GRoG, Dark Glass, and The Race.
From Fusion Retro Books. -- Masem ( t) 01:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)