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Hi! Meghmollar2017 has told me on my talk page that they are starting a group structured like ours at the Bangla wiki. I thought it was cool to learn that and wanted to share it with the group! I see that there is only one other interwiki link to our home page, to what seems to be a very dormant page on the Welsh wiki. Does anyone know if any other languages have groups dedicated to copy editing? Cheers, Tdslk ( talk) 05:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. My request on the article Draft:Asif Tariq was declined because of lack of sources. Unfortunately this is very difficult to find many sources as i am from very small town. The said subject is a renowned Kashmiri poet i worked hard on this article. Please help me by approving this article. I did my best. Hope in your help. Majid Saleem78 ( talk) 22:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
They suggested me to be here for the cause Majid Saleem78 ( talk) 22:04, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of the "in use" tagging of articles for any extended period of time. For example, Censorship by Google has had that message for almost two days, pre-empting any other activity on it. What is the Guild's policy on how long they should last? @ Csgir: courtesy ping. -- Fuzheado | Talk 10:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello all. I'm working on my first copy edit with the guild, over at Dungeons & Dragons controversies. [1] How heavy do you copy edit? Of course, spelling, grammar, MOS, and changing a couple of words for clarity here and there are definitely implied. But do you also do some of the following?
I found myself doing all of these things. In fact, I felt the headings/structural changes were a prerequisite before doing prose-level copy editing. The people at my article don't seem to mind. But I wonder if I'm doing more of a peer review or some other article editing, rather than a copy edit. Thoughts from experienced guild copy editors? Thank you. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 05:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Emphasis in original. I don't mind doing some of these things (like interpretations or POV balances) because they sometimes rub me the wrong way if I leave them be, but they're not expected of you. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[...] because they enjoy copy-editing, which means editing copy; fixing typos, correcting grammar, making text clearer, improving style, flow and structure, etc. Copy-editors aren't expected to hunt for missing citations, deal with big copyvios, balance POVs, interpret poorly translated material, or make articles perfect (but they can do all of these things if they wish).
I've been doing a lot of work copy editing Deepa Sashindran these past few days. I'm new to copy-editing for Wikipedia, and if anyone would enjoy giving some brief mentorship, any feedback on how I did and whether it's time to remove the tag or if more work is needed would be very helpful. In particular, I removed a number of sections from the article because they didn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia, but I'm not positive I made the right decision. Benevolent human ( talk) 19:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Several articles listed in Category:All articles needing copy edit have been "the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment". I have begun to look for information regarding that program's goals and directives. It seems that students are editing articles as an assignment. Does it appear that this motivation affects those users' approach to editing? azwaldo ( talk) 00:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
Just thought I'd let you know that I wrote a user script that adds a link to the guild onto the sidebar. I am aware that bookmark and similar scripts exist, but this can be placed in either Navigation or Contribute and may be of some use for those who frequent this wonderful community. You can check it out here! (Not entirely sure if this is the appropriate place to put this, but I would appreciate any feedback and criticism!)
Cheers, ritenerek talk :) 09:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm confused if the word count counted is the word count of the article, or if it's the number of words you changed? I want to know because I want to participate in whenever the next drive or blitz is, but I want to know how to count the words to make sure I get a score counted perfectly. Also, when is the next drive or blitz? 4D4850 ( talk) 18:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
No worries, 4D4850! Hope you're enjoying Ubuntu, ritenerek talk :) 19:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to ask another question, but is it possible to find the sections with copy edit tags automatically? It would be helpful for copy-editing long articles in the backlog. 4D4850 ( talk) 16:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
I do a Lot of copyediting and have already tried many copyediting tools On wikipedia. However, I did not get any great results from them. and when I tried using Grammarly, it did not work at or respond at all in any way while on Wikipedia. i tried Grammarly with MS word and it gave me accurate results. according to "How to do copyediting", Grammarly should be compatible with Wikipedia. Can anyone help me with this?
Regards,
Wikiedit01995
Hello, I just fixed a bunch of MOS:& violations to use "and". I did not think much of the resulting wording, since it stayed the same in principle, just without an abbreviation. It appears, however, that the initial (apparently bot-generated) phrasing was not ideal; specifically, there are a couple dozen instances of Special:Search/insource:/and Northern Asia \(excluding China\), and/ and even more of Special:Search/insource:/and Northern Asia \(excluding China\) and/. Since English is not my native language, at this point I would like someone else to comment on this and take action if necessary. This could probably also be done in a semi-automated fashion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi, FollowTheTortoise has started a discussion over at the MOS talk page proposing an exception to MOS:JOBTITLES for UK political offices. You can find the discussion here if you are interested.
Thanks, Wallnot ( talk) 17:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Dropping a line on the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects that a new article improvement newsletter has opened for sign-ups and is sending out its first issue in the next couple of days. Discontent Content focuses on both the improvement of substandard articles and the maintenance of quality ones, and can be subscribed to at Wikipedia:Discontent Content/mailing list. Vaticidal prophet 05:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Looking at the introductory text, I was wondering if anyone else might feel like it needs rephrasing?
"This WikiProject is dedicated to improving the quality of writing in articles on the English Wikipedia. The Guild welcomes new and experienced editors alike to join our project, participate in its activities, and copy edit Wikipedia articles to make them clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent; to make them say what they mean and mean what they say."
The portion that's been bolded is the area of concern. A semicolon is meant to separate two closely related independent clauses, but the second one doesn't fit the bill. The other function for cleanly separating list-groupings doesn't look to be the intended implementation either due to the structure. The portion after the semicolon seems like it's meant to rephrase/elaborate on the text immediately prior, which is something that'd work if a colon was used instead and the text beyond it was an independent clause. Alternatively, using a dash also seems like it'd do the trick.
Does anyone else agree with my observation? I'd have run an edit, but it's been this way for a decade and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something.
Thanks for your time. Fact Scanner ( talk) 17:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The Guild welcomes new and experienced editors alike to join our project; participate in its activities; and copy edit Wikipedia articles to make them clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent, to make them say what they mean and mean what they say.
I have noticed on several pages with infoboxes that the coordinate listings that are normally on top of the infoboxes seem to be overlapping the top of the infoboxes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renewableandalternativeenergy ( talk • contribs)
Hello GOCE editors. The GOCE template has been nominated for deletion here. Discussion welcome. -- Kbabej ( talk) 15:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
The TfD has been closed as keep (but possibly trim). Shall we discuss a possible rephrasing (and reduction of the icon size)? If there's a better talk page for such discussion, please link to it here so that interested parties can find it. Thanks – Reidgreg ( talk) 21:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
WP:PACE currently redirects to this project. It appears that the redirect is a product of this page move when the project changed names 12 years ago. Today I published an essay I wrote almost that long ago: " WP:Edit at your own pace." I'd really like to have WP:PACE redirect to that essay. I almost boldly performed the change myself, but since this project is decidedly NOT inactive, I thought it best to ask. Is there any objection here? BusterD ( talk) 20:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello GOCE -- I'm Marshall Miller; I'm the product manager for the Wikimedia Foundation's Growth team, which works on features meant to increase the retention of new editors. The features give newcomers clear tasks to do to get started, and connect them with an experienced mentor to answer their questions.
In the past year, we have found evidence that the Growth features have a positive impact on newcomer engagement, and this has led us to deploy the features to a total of 33 wikis, including some large ones like French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, and Japanese Wikipedias. So far, so good! Because we've seen the features lead to good outcomes, we started the conversation around what it would be like to try them on English Wikipedia, and they are actually available to test out now.
I'm posting here because you all have lots of experience working on the many small tasks that add up to make Wikipedia better. The most important part of the Growth features is the "newcomer tasks" module, which points out articles that need easy edits, such as copyedits or adding wikilinks. The tasks are sourced from maintenance templates that already exist on the articles in the wiki (templates like Template:Copy edit). Because you all have been doing an amazing job shrinking the backlog with that template (there are now only about 500 articles with that template), we're planning to bring in more tasks for newcomers using other templates (specifically: Template:Awkward, Template:Copy edit inline, Template:Copy edit section, Template: Inappropriate person, Template:In-universe, Template:Tone, Template:Advert, Template:Peacock).
-- MMiller (WMF) ( talk) 02:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone -- in the past weeks, lots of English community members have tried out the features, and we've heard largely positive reactions and ideas. We also have 16 mentors signed up (we don't need more for this test, but we will need more in the future!) After discussing it with the most involved community members, we set a date to begin testing the features on this wiki. Our plan is to start giving the Growth features to 2% of newcomers starting tomorrow, June 8. This means that for all new accounts created starting tomorrow, 2% of them will have the Growth features and the rest will not. Because English Wikipedia gets about 130,000 new accounts per month, we expect this will amount to 2,600 newcomers having the features over the course of the month.
I'm glad several of you helped me understand the nuance of what happens at GOCE and how you use templates. Though with the 2% test, we won't expect to see a ton of activity from newcomers, we will be suggesting that they work on articles that have copyedit templates (and similar types of templates) on them. It will be important to hear from you all about whether the work they're doing seems to be a net positive or net negative on the world on copyediting. Edits from newcomers with the Growth features will be visible in Recent Changes and watchlists with the tag #Newcomer task.
While the test is running, the Growth team will monitor newcomer activity to identify if anything negative is occurring (like an increase in vandalism) -- if something goes wrong, we'll be able to quickly make changes. At the end of about four weeks, we'll reflect on the data and ask mentors about their experiences to decide how to proceed, in terms of whether to increase the number of newcomers who receive the features. I'll also check back in here to see if anyone has noticed anything in particular about newcomers' copyedits coming from the feature.
I hope this sounds good to everyone here -- we think we've planned this carefully with community input, but I definitely want to hear if anyone has questions or concerns. I'll plan to post again tomorrow to confirm that the test has started. -- MMiller (WMF) ( talk) 19:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry that I haven't been able to edit lately; real life keeps getting in the way. Just thought I'd let you guys know that it's nothing against GOCE or any of its members... i hope to be able to do some copyedit work, but no promises ;) -- sithjarjar ( talk | contribs | email) 23:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I recently discovered two copyediting-related backlogs. One is Category:Wikipedia articles with incorrect tenses, produced by {{ cleanup tense}} - essentially a specific kind of grammar problem which presumably anyone could tackle. The other is a bunch of articles tagged {{ MOS}}, which in some way violate the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. These might require some figuring out of what's wrong, and some familiarity with or willingness to read the manual. Would Guild members be interested in tackling one or both of these backlogs? It looks like there's only a few hundred in each, and I can't imagine they are added to nearly as quickly as the main {{ copyedit}} backlog. -- Beland ( talk) 03:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
( ←) Good idea, Jonesey95. All the best, Mini apolis 12:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
User:Tenryuu has an inventive template at User:Tenryuu/GOCE talk for asking questions during a copyedit on the talk page. But it links to their own copyediting process, and mentions things only specific to them. I made a more neutral one at User:Mcguy15/sandbox/1. Do you guys think this would be useful, and do you think I could move it to the Template space? Thanks! — Mcguy15 ( talk, contribs) 16:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I have a couple drafts I'm trying to finish about humorous poems that went viral in the mid-1990s (" A Grandchild's Guide to Using Grandpa's Computer" a.k.a. "If Dr. Seuss Were a Technical Writer" and " Candidate for a Pullet Surprise" a.k.a. "Owed to a Spell Chequer" – give them a read for a little nostalgia and feel free to improve them if interested). I was hoping to submit a DYK about them being (probably) the most-plagiarized poems in the English language, due to the vast number of websites which hosted them with improper attribution. I've been looking for a high-quality source for that... the poems are apparently discussed in books on (internet) publishing ethics, but I've yet to find anything. I've asked at the language reference desk and thought I might also ask here, if one of you fine wordsmiths might have an idea? Thanks, and I hope you're at least rewarded with a chuckle for your time. – Reidgreg ( talk) 22:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks! I wanted to jump in with some copyediting after a bit of an absence, but thought it would be good to check in here. Any major changes that might be helpful for me to know? Last time I was active was in late 2016. Hope you all are well! Pax Verbum 05:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi friends: I am currently working on the Yahoo! Japan copy-edit for the September drive. As you can see, it is all sorts of a mess. Someone on the talk page suggested removing the services section. At the very least, I think a good restructure is in order as it is quite unwieldy and hard on the eyes. I have worked on one possible restructure of the section in my sandbox. Can someone kindly take a look and tell me what they think? Thank you so much! - Pax Verbum 20:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Good afternoon everyone. I just did some copyediting on SEAT Ibiza. Can anyone please review it, and let me know if they find anything else, before I take the copyedit tag off, and put it on my drive list as completed? Thanks. Prairie Astronomer Contributions 20:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I believe the article Coat of arms of Moravia is correct, but can anyone review it for me? I never even edited it, but I read over it while trying to find something for the elimination drive. Thanks. Prairie Astronomer Contributions 00:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Requesting some copy edit support @ newly added article section #2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault.
Thanks for the support
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm CactiStaccingCrane ( talk), and I'm the main editor of the article. I noticed that a lot of reviewers in the article's FAC has mentioned that the article need a lot of copy editing, and thus a copyedit maybe needed. Here's the peer review page: Wikipedia:Peer review/SpaceX Starship/archive1; failed FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SpaceX Starship/archive1. Date: 02:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of screw drives § Images in Section Headings. — Marchjuly ( talk) 08:29, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Right folks, we're running this competition again after 5 long years - see Wikipedia:Take the lead! Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Template:GOCE pending has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page.
I didn't nominate it. This is a courtesy posting. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 16:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Please see User talk:Twofingered Typist#Obituary. He was a highly productive member of the GOCE, and a member of the Hall of Fame. He will be missed. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 15:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Would it be possible at all to put a memorial box or the HOF box transcluded on the main GOCE page? I think it would be nice for their memory to be a little more noticeable for their contributions, Two Fingered Typist but also Corinne and others. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 12:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
This page is an archive. Do not edit the contents of this page. Please direct any additional comments to the current talk page. |
Hi! Meghmollar2017 has told me on my talk page that they are starting a group structured like ours at the Bangla wiki. I thought it was cool to learn that and wanted to share it with the group! I see that there is only one other interwiki link to our home page, to what seems to be a very dormant page on the Welsh wiki. Does anyone know if any other languages have groups dedicated to copy editing? Cheers, Tdslk ( talk) 05:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. My request on the article Draft:Asif Tariq was declined because of lack of sources. Unfortunately this is very difficult to find many sources as i am from very small town. The said subject is a renowned Kashmiri poet i worked hard on this article. Please help me by approving this article. I did my best. Hope in your help. Majid Saleem78 ( talk) 22:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
They suggested me to be here for the cause Majid Saleem78 ( talk) 22:04, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of the "in use" tagging of articles for any extended period of time. For example, Censorship by Google has had that message for almost two days, pre-empting any other activity on it. What is the Guild's policy on how long they should last? @ Csgir: courtesy ping. -- Fuzheado | Talk 10:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello all. I'm working on my first copy edit with the guild, over at Dungeons & Dragons controversies. [1] How heavy do you copy edit? Of course, spelling, grammar, MOS, and changing a couple of words for clarity here and there are definitely implied. But do you also do some of the following?
I found myself doing all of these things. In fact, I felt the headings/structural changes were a prerequisite before doing prose-level copy editing. The people at my article don't seem to mind. But I wonder if I'm doing more of a peer review or some other article editing, rather than a copy edit. Thoughts from experienced guild copy editors? Thank you. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 05:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Emphasis in original. I don't mind doing some of these things (like interpretations or POV balances) because they sometimes rub me the wrong way if I leave them be, but they're not expected of you. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[...] because they enjoy copy-editing, which means editing copy; fixing typos, correcting grammar, making text clearer, improving style, flow and structure, etc. Copy-editors aren't expected to hunt for missing citations, deal with big copyvios, balance POVs, interpret poorly translated material, or make articles perfect (but they can do all of these things if they wish).
I've been doing a lot of work copy editing Deepa Sashindran these past few days. I'm new to copy-editing for Wikipedia, and if anyone would enjoy giving some brief mentorship, any feedback on how I did and whether it's time to remove the tag or if more work is needed would be very helpful. In particular, I removed a number of sections from the article because they didn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia, but I'm not positive I made the right decision. Benevolent human ( talk) 19:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Several articles listed in Category:All articles needing copy edit have been "the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment". I have begun to look for information regarding that program's goals and directives. It seems that students are editing articles as an assignment. Does it appear that this motivation affects those users' approach to editing? azwaldo ( talk) 00:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
Just thought I'd let you know that I wrote a user script that adds a link to the guild onto the sidebar. I am aware that bookmark and similar scripts exist, but this can be placed in either Navigation or Contribute and may be of some use for those who frequent this wonderful community. You can check it out here! (Not entirely sure if this is the appropriate place to put this, but I would appreciate any feedback and criticism!)
Cheers, ritenerek talk :) 09:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm confused if the word count counted is the word count of the article, or if it's the number of words you changed? I want to know because I want to participate in whenever the next drive or blitz is, but I want to know how to count the words to make sure I get a score counted perfectly. Also, when is the next drive or blitz? 4D4850 ( talk) 18:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
No worries, 4D4850! Hope you're enjoying Ubuntu, ritenerek talk :) 19:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to ask another question, but is it possible to find the sections with copy edit tags automatically? It would be helpful for copy-editing long articles in the backlog. 4D4850 ( talk) 16:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
I do a Lot of copyediting and have already tried many copyediting tools On wikipedia. However, I did not get any great results from them. and when I tried using Grammarly, it did not work at or respond at all in any way while on Wikipedia. i tried Grammarly with MS word and it gave me accurate results. according to "How to do copyediting", Grammarly should be compatible with Wikipedia. Can anyone help me with this?
Regards,
Wikiedit01995
Hello, I just fixed a bunch of MOS:& violations to use "and". I did not think much of the resulting wording, since it stayed the same in principle, just without an abbreviation. It appears, however, that the initial (apparently bot-generated) phrasing was not ideal; specifically, there are a couple dozen instances of Special:Search/insource:/and Northern Asia \(excluding China\), and/ and even more of Special:Search/insource:/and Northern Asia \(excluding China\) and/. Since English is not my native language, at this point I would like someone else to comment on this and take action if necessary. This could probably also be done in a semi-automated fashion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi, FollowTheTortoise has started a discussion over at the MOS talk page proposing an exception to MOS:JOBTITLES for UK political offices. You can find the discussion here if you are interested.
Thanks, Wallnot ( talk) 17:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Dropping a line on the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects that a new article improvement newsletter has opened for sign-ups and is sending out its first issue in the next couple of days. Discontent Content focuses on both the improvement of substandard articles and the maintenance of quality ones, and can be subscribed to at Wikipedia:Discontent Content/mailing list. Vaticidal prophet 05:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Looking at the introductory text, I was wondering if anyone else might feel like it needs rephrasing?
"This WikiProject is dedicated to improving the quality of writing in articles on the English Wikipedia. The Guild welcomes new and experienced editors alike to join our project, participate in its activities, and copy edit Wikipedia articles to make them clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent; to make them say what they mean and mean what they say."
The portion that's been bolded is the area of concern. A semicolon is meant to separate two closely related independent clauses, but the second one doesn't fit the bill. The other function for cleanly separating list-groupings doesn't look to be the intended implementation either due to the structure. The portion after the semicolon seems like it's meant to rephrase/elaborate on the text immediately prior, which is something that'd work if a colon was used instead and the text beyond it was an independent clause. Alternatively, using a dash also seems like it'd do the trick.
Does anyone else agree with my observation? I'd have run an edit, but it's been this way for a decade and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something.
Thanks for your time. Fact Scanner ( talk) 17:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The Guild welcomes new and experienced editors alike to join our project; participate in its activities; and copy edit Wikipedia articles to make them clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent, to make them say what they mean and mean what they say.
I have noticed on several pages with infoboxes that the coordinate listings that are normally on top of the infoboxes seem to be overlapping the top of the infoboxes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renewableandalternativeenergy ( talk • contribs)
Hello GOCE editors. The GOCE template has been nominated for deletion here. Discussion welcome. -- Kbabej ( talk) 15:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
The TfD has been closed as keep (but possibly trim). Shall we discuss a possible rephrasing (and reduction of the icon size)? If there's a better talk page for such discussion, please link to it here so that interested parties can find it. Thanks – Reidgreg ( talk) 21:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
WP:PACE currently redirects to this project. It appears that the redirect is a product of this page move when the project changed names 12 years ago. Today I published an essay I wrote almost that long ago: " WP:Edit at your own pace." I'd really like to have WP:PACE redirect to that essay. I almost boldly performed the change myself, but since this project is decidedly NOT inactive, I thought it best to ask. Is there any objection here? BusterD ( talk) 20:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello GOCE -- I'm Marshall Miller; I'm the product manager for the Wikimedia Foundation's Growth team, which works on features meant to increase the retention of new editors. The features give newcomers clear tasks to do to get started, and connect them with an experienced mentor to answer their questions.
In the past year, we have found evidence that the Growth features have a positive impact on newcomer engagement, and this has led us to deploy the features to a total of 33 wikis, including some large ones like French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, and Japanese Wikipedias. So far, so good! Because we've seen the features lead to good outcomes, we started the conversation around what it would be like to try them on English Wikipedia, and they are actually available to test out now.
I'm posting here because you all have lots of experience working on the many small tasks that add up to make Wikipedia better. The most important part of the Growth features is the "newcomer tasks" module, which points out articles that need easy edits, such as copyedits or adding wikilinks. The tasks are sourced from maintenance templates that already exist on the articles in the wiki (templates like Template:Copy edit). Because you all have been doing an amazing job shrinking the backlog with that template (there are now only about 500 articles with that template), we're planning to bring in more tasks for newcomers using other templates (specifically: Template:Awkward, Template:Copy edit inline, Template:Copy edit section, Template: Inappropriate person, Template:In-universe, Template:Tone, Template:Advert, Template:Peacock).
-- MMiller (WMF) ( talk) 02:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone -- in the past weeks, lots of English community members have tried out the features, and we've heard largely positive reactions and ideas. We also have 16 mentors signed up (we don't need more for this test, but we will need more in the future!) After discussing it with the most involved community members, we set a date to begin testing the features on this wiki. Our plan is to start giving the Growth features to 2% of newcomers starting tomorrow, June 8. This means that for all new accounts created starting tomorrow, 2% of them will have the Growth features and the rest will not. Because English Wikipedia gets about 130,000 new accounts per month, we expect this will amount to 2,600 newcomers having the features over the course of the month.
I'm glad several of you helped me understand the nuance of what happens at GOCE and how you use templates. Though with the 2% test, we won't expect to see a ton of activity from newcomers, we will be suggesting that they work on articles that have copyedit templates (and similar types of templates) on them. It will be important to hear from you all about whether the work they're doing seems to be a net positive or net negative on the world on copyediting. Edits from newcomers with the Growth features will be visible in Recent Changes and watchlists with the tag #Newcomer task.
While the test is running, the Growth team will monitor newcomer activity to identify if anything negative is occurring (like an increase in vandalism) -- if something goes wrong, we'll be able to quickly make changes. At the end of about four weeks, we'll reflect on the data and ask mentors about their experiences to decide how to proceed, in terms of whether to increase the number of newcomers who receive the features. I'll also check back in here to see if anyone has noticed anything in particular about newcomers' copyedits coming from the feature.
I hope this sounds good to everyone here -- we think we've planned this carefully with community input, but I definitely want to hear if anyone has questions or concerns. I'll plan to post again tomorrow to confirm that the test has started. -- MMiller (WMF) ( talk) 19:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry that I haven't been able to edit lately; real life keeps getting in the way. Just thought I'd let you guys know that it's nothing against GOCE or any of its members... i hope to be able to do some copyedit work, but no promises ;) -- sithjarjar ( talk | contribs | email) 23:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I recently discovered two copyediting-related backlogs. One is Category:Wikipedia articles with incorrect tenses, produced by {{ cleanup tense}} - essentially a specific kind of grammar problem which presumably anyone could tackle. The other is a bunch of articles tagged {{ MOS}}, which in some way violate the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. These might require some figuring out of what's wrong, and some familiarity with or willingness to read the manual. Would Guild members be interested in tackling one or both of these backlogs? It looks like there's only a few hundred in each, and I can't imagine they are added to nearly as quickly as the main {{ copyedit}} backlog. -- Beland ( talk) 03:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
( ←) Good idea, Jonesey95. All the best, Mini apolis 12:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
User:Tenryuu has an inventive template at User:Tenryuu/GOCE talk for asking questions during a copyedit on the talk page. But it links to their own copyediting process, and mentions things only specific to them. I made a more neutral one at User:Mcguy15/sandbox/1. Do you guys think this would be useful, and do you think I could move it to the Template space? Thanks! — Mcguy15 ( talk, contribs) 16:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I have a couple drafts I'm trying to finish about humorous poems that went viral in the mid-1990s (" A Grandchild's Guide to Using Grandpa's Computer" a.k.a. "If Dr. Seuss Were a Technical Writer" and " Candidate for a Pullet Surprise" a.k.a. "Owed to a Spell Chequer" – give them a read for a little nostalgia and feel free to improve them if interested). I was hoping to submit a DYK about them being (probably) the most-plagiarized poems in the English language, due to the vast number of websites which hosted them with improper attribution. I've been looking for a high-quality source for that... the poems are apparently discussed in books on (internet) publishing ethics, but I've yet to find anything. I've asked at the language reference desk and thought I might also ask here, if one of you fine wordsmiths might have an idea? Thanks, and I hope you're at least rewarded with a chuckle for your time. – Reidgreg ( talk) 22:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi folks! I wanted to jump in with some copyediting after a bit of an absence, but thought it would be good to check in here. Any major changes that might be helpful for me to know? Last time I was active was in late 2016. Hope you all are well! Pax Verbum 05:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi friends: I am currently working on the Yahoo! Japan copy-edit for the September drive. As you can see, it is all sorts of a mess. Someone on the talk page suggested removing the services section. At the very least, I think a good restructure is in order as it is quite unwieldy and hard on the eyes. I have worked on one possible restructure of the section in my sandbox. Can someone kindly take a look and tell me what they think? Thank you so much! - Pax Verbum 20:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Good afternoon everyone. I just did some copyediting on SEAT Ibiza. Can anyone please review it, and let me know if they find anything else, before I take the copyedit tag off, and put it on my drive list as completed? Thanks. Prairie Astronomer Contributions 20:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I believe the article Coat of arms of Moravia is correct, but can anyone review it for me? I never even edited it, but I read over it while trying to find something for the elimination drive. Thanks. Prairie Astronomer Contributions 00:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Requesting some copy edit support @ newly added article section #2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault.
Thanks for the support
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm CactiStaccingCrane ( talk), and I'm the main editor of the article. I noticed that a lot of reviewers in the article's FAC has mentioned that the article need a lot of copy editing, and thus a copyedit maybe needed. Here's the peer review page: Wikipedia:Peer review/SpaceX Starship/archive1; failed FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SpaceX Starship/archive1. Date: 02:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of screw drives § Images in Section Headings. — Marchjuly ( talk) 08:29, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Right folks, we're running this competition again after 5 long years - see Wikipedia:Take the lead! Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Template:GOCE pending has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page.
I didn't nominate it. This is a courtesy posting. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 16:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Please see User talk:Twofingered Typist#Obituary. He was a highly productive member of the GOCE, and a member of the Hall of Fame. He will be missed. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 15:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Would it be possible at all to put a memorial box or the HOF box transcluded on the main GOCE page? I think it would be nice for their memory to be a little more noticeable for their contributions, Two Fingered Typist but also Corinne and others. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 12:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)