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Despite the overwhelming viewpoint among philosophers ( such as Edward Feser), news reports, and more being that the 2021 document is not overruled, several editors are claiming that even mentioning this perception violates Wikipedia guidelines. Certainly this deserves mention in some form. The current version of the article comes across as an argumentative essay attempting to convince someone that nothing significant has changed. An idea that would be widely disputed at best. StardustToStardust ( talk) 15:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Talk:Pope Francis and LGBT topics regarding a reorganisation of the article. The thread is Article reorganisation proposal. Thank you.
I am seeking consensus for a significant reorganisation of the article. I would be grateful for your comments. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 14:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I have requested that two additional parameters be created for Template:Infobox church: sui_iuris_church and former_sui_iuris_church. Modeled on sui_iuris_church parameter of Template:Infobox diocese, the sui_iuris_church parameter would be located below the denomination parameter, the former_sui_iuris_church parameter below the former_denomination parameter. This would be broadly useful for current or former Eastern Catholic church buildings, as well as church buildings in countries where the Latin Church can not be assumed as the operator of a Catholic building. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 20:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Does WikiProject Catholicism cover Catholic schools and Catholic colleges/universities? I have two local Catholic universities that aren't yet included in this project. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 03:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
We need an expert at Fiducia Supplicans, good editors and reliable sources are disagreeing and the article and talk pages have been filled with persistent dispute. If anyone very knowledgeable in the subject would be willing to look at the recent edits and the talk page, they will see how messy this has become. Any help from those who specialize in this area would be greatly appreciated by all of us trying to maintain the article as objectively as possible. Ysys9 ( talk) 15:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Infobox Christian leader}} regarding a proposal to add an |eparchy=
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Sometimes on talk pages, the Catholicism Wikiproject is given as a subproject of Wikiproject Christianity (as in Talk:Augustine of Hippo), other times it is a separate banner (as in Talk:Jerome). Someone asked about this several years ago on the banner template talk page, and got the answer that they are functionally the same. But is there a preference between the two, or does it really not matter at all? Thanks! Smdjcl ( talk) 20:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Santa Cueva de Montserrat#Requested move 18 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
An editor has requested that Shrovetide be moved to Pre-Lent, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Graham ( talk) 01:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Clement of Rome#Requested move 3 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 13:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
+ To whom it may concern:
Good afternoon! I am new to trying to create an article for Wikipedia and have been having a hard time trying to do it on my own. A friend told that I should reach out to a Wikipedian and then another friend mentioned your WikiProject Catholicism section.
I am hoping that one of you would be so kind to write an article for the movie that I wrote and produced entitled Trinity's Triumph. I have added all the pertinent information in this section:
Please let me know if you need more information.
I pray that one of you will be able to help me.
SJJPF ( talk) 18:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC) Father Stephen Fichter
Hello all. User:GeralfD has been adding interminable lists of individual houses of worship to the articles relating to Malaysian dioceses; see Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Kota Kinabalu and Roman Catholic Diocese of Keningau for example. I removed some of these lists but I realize I do not know what the Project Catholicism's stance would be. I leave it to you, thanks. Mr.choppers | ✎ 01:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Having exhausted conversation at Talk:Syro-Malabar Church, I wanted to raise the question here: is the Catholic Church one denomination or 24 denominations (the sui iuris Latin Church and 23 Eastern Catholic Churches)? While some sources related to Syriac Christianity describe some individual ECCs (the Maronite, Syro-Malabar, and Syro-Malankara) as denominations in that context, guiding sources like the Handbook of Denominations, Encyclopædia Britannica, and the Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches refers to the Catholic Church as a single denomination and the first two both explicitly identify the sui iuris churches as components of the one denomination. This aligns with most Catholic sources, which identify all 24 churches as part of one church. Historically, on Wikipedia, denomination has not been synonymous with sui iuris, noting standards extant beyond this WikiProject like Template:Infobox diocese's separation of the terms into two parameters. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 13:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Christianity can be taxonomically divided into six main groups: the Church of the East, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, and Restorationism. Within these six main traditions are various Christian denominations (for example, the Coptic Orthodox Church is an Oriental Orthodox denomination).The Catholic Church is a denominational family and each of the sui juris churches are distinct denominations with distinct liturgical rites, doctrines, culture, organisation and history. All the Eastern Catholic Church articles currently employ the infobox Template:Infobox Christian denomination. For example see List of Christian denominations, wherein the Syro-Malabar Church is listed along with the Roman/Latin and other Eastern Catholic Churches as denominations under the subheading 'Catholic Church' (denominational family). Logosx127 ( talk) 14:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church is one of the 23 Eastern (Oriental) Catholic Churches in full communion with Rome. It is the largest Eastern Catholic Church after the Ukrainian Church and the largest of the Saint Thomas Christian (Nazrani) denominations with 5 million believers.
Among the denominations in the Christian community, the Syro-. Malabar Catholics are the most dispersed denomination(Religious Denominations of Kerala). Meanwhile most of the online sources define the SMC, and also the other Sui juris Churches are individual denominations united under the leadership of the Pope.
Cardinal Mar George Alencherry, the head of Kerala's prominent Christian denomination, the Syro Malabar Catholic Church..
Telangana, Bishop Raphael Thattil has been elected as major archbishop of the powerful Syro-Malabar Church. The church is the largest denomination of Catholics in India and prominent among the 22 oriental Catholic churches that are in full communion with Rome.
Though the Syro-Malabar Church has more than 3.6 million members, more than half a million of them are scattered outside Kerala state, where the church remains the largest Christian denomination.
A day after the Syro-Malabar Church's Public Affairs Commission rallied behind Bishop Mar Joseph Kallarangatt in the 'narcotic jihad' row, the denomination 's largest religious publication, Sathyadeepam, has struck a contradictory not
One church of the Syro-Malabar denomination in Kerala's Wayanad district has offered 10,000 rupeela's 00) for a couple's fifth child.
the holy communion of two souls in the traditional way of this denomination of Christianity.
The Syro-Malabar Church, the largest Christian denomination in Kerala, on Wednesday
Kerala’s Syro-Malabar Church To date, the denomination owns 22 churches in the US.Logosx127 ( talk) 14:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Divisions between one group and another are defined by authority and doctrine. The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church differs neither in authority nor in doctrine from the Latin Catholic Church, so it's not a separate denomination. Some do seem to use the term in a looser sense to mean something generic like "group", but that seems to be mostly by secular news sources that wouldn't understand the technical details of Christianity rather than academic sources. Smdjcl ( talk) 15:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Now since Pbritti has accepted to reword the title of the discussion in a more neutral manner from the previous misleading version, the discussion can be expected to have taken proper turn. Logosx127 ( talk) 16:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
a Christian denomination is a distinct religious body within Christianity that comprises all church congregations of the same kind, identifiable by traits such as a name, particular history, organization, leadership, theological doctrine, worship style and, sometimes, a founder.
The status quo can remain only if they are considered denominations.Why? The infobox Christian denomination at e.g. Syro-Malabar Church doesn't claim that it is a denomination. For readers, the word "denomination" appears neither in the infobox nor in the article text. The only people who could possibly be misled to think it is a denomination are people reading the source code, and that's us editors who know the difference. This question seems like a timesink for editors; there are better ways of spending our precious wikiediting time than duplicating an infobox which will have the same parameters and content. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
should be some care given to the fact they do not self-identify as denominations.
The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church is one of the 23 Eastern (Oriental) Catholic Churches in full communion with Rome. It is the largest Eastern Catholic Church after the Ukrainian Church and the largest of the Saint Thomas Christian (Nazrani) denominations with 5 million believers.1 I would like to advice you to read the debate fully.
Using the same infobox for a denomination and something that's not creates confusion.→ Here's a fix: a wikicomment in the source code, visible only to editors reading the source code, clarifying that we're using this infobox for convenience even though it's a sui iuris church. That way, no editors will be confused. I personally think it's overkill for a confusion that doesn't exist, but what do you think? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
The denomination articles don't really need to change because, as TheLionHasSeen said, there are other denominations that fall under "Catholicism" like the Liberal Catholic Church and other independent/liberal Catholic traditions. Additionally, the transfers of large proportions of other denominations' populations/jurisdictions to Rome as Eastern Catholic Churches is worth noting in those articles, even if the ECCs don't themselves constitute independent denominations. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 14:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
the transfers of large proportions of other denominations' populations/jurisdictions to Rome as Eastern Catholic Churches is worth noting in those articles, even if the ECCs don't themselves constitute independent denominations→ If we added a sentence (perhaps in a footnote) to that effect (reworded to avoid "worth noting"), would that satisfy you, Logosx127? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
In alignment with Logosx127, they can be referred to by the ambiguous denominational terminology.Now that you don't want the discussion here, its totally okay if you are leaving. The other users, me and Pbritti, as seen here
Ok, if you'd like them not listed individually on List of Christian denominations, that can be done, had already agreed to a consensus and it was only you who disagreed. Now you are putting all the blame on me! Logosx127 ( talk) 14:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Isabella I of Castile#Requested move 29 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел ( talk) 13:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
i found a concerning post from may 2023 in the talk section about the ratlines claiming that the work of one author cited, a man named John Loftus, was dodgy and the author was a conspiracy theorist. one book by this man was cited by a historian called Michael Phayer, who is also cited in the article. are questionable i then found this post in the reliable sources noticeboard that concluded the source was extremely unreliable: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 404 - Wikipedia
yet the article parts in question have not been removed, which is strange considering the page is on this wikiprojects watchlist of articles people have tried to tamper with in the past
Bird244 ( talk) 23:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion concerning the question of religion and whether or not it is an appropriate subject for the Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Experienced editors are encouraged to join the conversation. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 19:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
I've made a GA nomination for Catholic Church in Sichuan. This is my first GA process. If anyone has time to review this that would be great. Many thanks. Uriel1022 ( talk) 17:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
This page is in quite a state. Unreliable/non-independent sources, skewed interpretations, odd omissions. Currently, Hell in Christianity's Catholic section has a more robust and balanced approach to the topic. I'd like to make this page a more useful resource. Is there anyone who would like to work on improving the article with me?
Ideally, I'd like to split the article's work into sections. I think the current section breakdown is... fine, but could probably be improved. If anyone wants to work on getting this, at least to B status with me, please ping me and we can work out a plan! ThaesOfereode ( talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Despite the overwhelming viewpoint among philosophers ( such as Edward Feser), news reports, and more being that the 2021 document is not overruled, several editors are claiming that even mentioning this perception violates Wikipedia guidelines. Certainly this deserves mention in some form. The current version of the article comes across as an argumentative essay attempting to convince someone that nothing significant has changed. An idea that would be widely disputed at best. StardustToStardust ( talk) 15:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Talk:Pope Francis and LGBT topics regarding a reorganisation of the article. The thread is Article reorganisation proposal. Thank you.
I am seeking consensus for a significant reorganisation of the article. I would be grateful for your comments. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 14:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I have requested that two additional parameters be created for Template:Infobox church: sui_iuris_church and former_sui_iuris_church. Modeled on sui_iuris_church parameter of Template:Infobox diocese, the sui_iuris_church parameter would be located below the denomination parameter, the former_sui_iuris_church parameter below the former_denomination parameter. This would be broadly useful for current or former Eastern Catholic church buildings, as well as church buildings in countries where the Latin Church can not be assumed as the operator of a Catholic building. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 20:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Does WikiProject Catholicism cover Catholic schools and Catholic colleges/universities? I have two local Catholic universities that aren't yet included in this project. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 03:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
We need an expert at Fiducia Supplicans, good editors and reliable sources are disagreeing and the article and talk pages have been filled with persistent dispute. If anyone very knowledgeable in the subject would be willing to look at the recent edits and the talk page, they will see how messy this has become. Any help from those who specialize in this area would be greatly appreciated by all of us trying to maintain the article as objectively as possible. Ysys9 ( talk) 15:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at the
talk page for the template {{
Infobox Christian leader}} regarding a proposal to add an |eparchy=
parameter to the template. You are invited to review and join the discussion. Thank you. —
Archer1234 (
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c) 17:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Sometimes on talk pages, the Catholicism Wikiproject is given as a subproject of Wikiproject Christianity (as in Talk:Augustine of Hippo), other times it is a separate banner (as in Talk:Jerome). Someone asked about this several years ago on the banner template talk page, and got the answer that they are functionally the same. But is there a preference between the two, or does it really not matter at all? Thanks! Smdjcl ( talk) 20:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Santa Cueva de Montserrat#Requested move 18 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
An editor has requested that Shrovetide be moved to Pre-Lent, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Graham ( talk) 01:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Clement of Rome#Requested move 3 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 13:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
+ To whom it may concern:
Good afternoon! I am new to trying to create an article for Wikipedia and have been having a hard time trying to do it on my own. A friend told that I should reach out to a Wikipedian and then another friend mentioned your WikiProject Catholicism section.
I am hoping that one of you would be so kind to write an article for the movie that I wrote and produced entitled Trinity's Triumph. I have added all the pertinent information in this section:
Please let me know if you need more information.
I pray that one of you will be able to help me.
SJJPF ( talk) 18:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC) Father Stephen Fichter
Hello all. User:GeralfD has been adding interminable lists of individual houses of worship to the articles relating to Malaysian dioceses; see Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Kota Kinabalu and Roman Catholic Diocese of Keningau for example. I removed some of these lists but I realize I do not know what the Project Catholicism's stance would be. I leave it to you, thanks. Mr.choppers | ✎ 01:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Having exhausted conversation at Talk:Syro-Malabar Church, I wanted to raise the question here: is the Catholic Church one denomination or 24 denominations (the sui iuris Latin Church and 23 Eastern Catholic Churches)? While some sources related to Syriac Christianity describe some individual ECCs (the Maronite, Syro-Malabar, and Syro-Malankara) as denominations in that context, guiding sources like the Handbook of Denominations, Encyclopædia Britannica, and the Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches refers to the Catholic Church as a single denomination and the first two both explicitly identify the sui iuris churches as components of the one denomination. This aligns with most Catholic sources, which identify all 24 churches as part of one church. Historically, on Wikipedia, denomination has not been synonymous with sui iuris, noting standards extant beyond this WikiProject like Template:Infobox diocese's separation of the terms into two parameters. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 13:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Christianity can be taxonomically divided into six main groups: the Church of the East, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, and Restorationism. Within these six main traditions are various Christian denominations (for example, the Coptic Orthodox Church is an Oriental Orthodox denomination).The Catholic Church is a denominational family and each of the sui juris churches are distinct denominations with distinct liturgical rites, doctrines, culture, organisation and history. All the Eastern Catholic Church articles currently employ the infobox Template:Infobox Christian denomination. For example see List of Christian denominations, wherein the Syro-Malabar Church is listed along with the Roman/Latin and other Eastern Catholic Churches as denominations under the subheading 'Catholic Church' (denominational family). Logosx127 ( talk) 14:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church is one of the 23 Eastern (Oriental) Catholic Churches in full communion with Rome. It is the largest Eastern Catholic Church after the Ukrainian Church and the largest of the Saint Thomas Christian (Nazrani) denominations with 5 million believers.
Among the denominations in the Christian community, the Syro-. Malabar Catholics are the most dispersed denomination(Religious Denominations of Kerala). Meanwhile most of the online sources define the SMC, and also the other Sui juris Churches are individual denominations united under the leadership of the Pope.
Cardinal Mar George Alencherry, the head of Kerala's prominent Christian denomination, the Syro Malabar Catholic Church..
Telangana, Bishop Raphael Thattil has been elected as major archbishop of the powerful Syro-Malabar Church. The church is the largest denomination of Catholics in India and prominent among the 22 oriental Catholic churches that are in full communion with Rome.
Though the Syro-Malabar Church has more than 3.6 million members, more than half a million of them are scattered outside Kerala state, where the church remains the largest Christian denomination.
A day after the Syro-Malabar Church's Public Affairs Commission rallied behind Bishop Mar Joseph Kallarangatt in the 'narcotic jihad' row, the denomination 's largest religious publication, Sathyadeepam, has struck a contradictory not
One church of the Syro-Malabar denomination in Kerala's Wayanad district has offered 10,000 rupeela's 00) for a couple's fifth child.
the holy communion of two souls in the traditional way of this denomination of Christianity.
The Syro-Malabar Church, the largest Christian denomination in Kerala, on Wednesday
Kerala’s Syro-Malabar Church To date, the denomination owns 22 churches in the US.Logosx127 ( talk) 14:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Divisions between one group and another are defined by authority and doctrine. The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church differs neither in authority nor in doctrine from the Latin Catholic Church, so it's not a separate denomination. Some do seem to use the term in a looser sense to mean something generic like "group", but that seems to be mostly by secular news sources that wouldn't understand the technical details of Christianity rather than academic sources. Smdjcl ( talk) 15:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Now since Pbritti has accepted to reword the title of the discussion in a more neutral manner from the previous misleading version, the discussion can be expected to have taken proper turn. Logosx127 ( talk) 16:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
a Christian denomination is a distinct religious body within Christianity that comprises all church congregations of the same kind, identifiable by traits such as a name, particular history, organization, leadership, theological doctrine, worship style and, sometimes, a founder.
The status quo can remain only if they are considered denominations.Why? The infobox Christian denomination at e.g. Syro-Malabar Church doesn't claim that it is a denomination. For readers, the word "denomination" appears neither in the infobox nor in the article text. The only people who could possibly be misled to think it is a denomination are people reading the source code, and that's us editors who know the difference. This question seems like a timesink for editors; there are better ways of spending our precious wikiediting time than duplicating an infobox which will have the same parameters and content. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
should be some care given to the fact they do not self-identify as denominations.
The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church is one of the 23 Eastern (Oriental) Catholic Churches in full communion with Rome. It is the largest Eastern Catholic Church after the Ukrainian Church and the largest of the Saint Thomas Christian (Nazrani) denominations with 5 million believers.1 I would like to advice you to read the debate fully.
Using the same infobox for a denomination and something that's not creates confusion.→ Here's a fix: a wikicomment in the source code, visible only to editors reading the source code, clarifying that we're using this infobox for convenience even though it's a sui iuris church. That way, no editors will be confused. I personally think it's overkill for a confusion that doesn't exist, but what do you think? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
The denomination articles don't really need to change because, as TheLionHasSeen said, there are other denominations that fall under "Catholicism" like the Liberal Catholic Church and other independent/liberal Catholic traditions. Additionally, the transfers of large proportions of other denominations' populations/jurisdictions to Rome as Eastern Catholic Churches is worth noting in those articles, even if the ECCs don't themselves constitute independent denominations. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 14:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
the transfers of large proportions of other denominations' populations/jurisdictions to Rome as Eastern Catholic Churches is worth noting in those articles, even if the ECCs don't themselves constitute independent denominations→ If we added a sentence (perhaps in a footnote) to that effect (reworded to avoid "worth noting"), would that satisfy you, Logosx127? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
In alignment with Logosx127, they can be referred to by the ambiguous denominational terminology.Now that you don't want the discussion here, its totally okay if you are leaving. The other users, me and Pbritti, as seen here
Ok, if you'd like them not listed individually on List of Christian denominations, that can be done, had already agreed to a consensus and it was only you who disagreed. Now you are putting all the blame on me! Logosx127 ( talk) 14:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Isabella I of Castile#Requested move 29 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел ( talk) 13:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
i found a concerning post from may 2023 in the talk section about the ratlines claiming that the work of one author cited, a man named John Loftus, was dodgy and the author was a conspiracy theorist. one book by this man was cited by a historian called Michael Phayer, who is also cited in the article. are questionable i then found this post in the reliable sources noticeboard that concluded the source was extremely unreliable: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 404 - Wikipedia
yet the article parts in question have not been removed, which is strange considering the page is on this wikiprojects watchlist of articles people have tried to tamper with in the past
Bird244 ( talk) 23:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion concerning the question of religion and whether or not it is an appropriate subject for the Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Experienced editors are encouraged to join the conversation. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 19:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
I've made a GA nomination for Catholic Church in Sichuan. This is my first GA process. If anyone has time to review this that would be great. Many thanks. Uriel1022 ( talk) 17:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
This page is in quite a state. Unreliable/non-independent sources, skewed interpretations, odd omissions. Currently, Hell in Christianity's Catholic section has a more robust and balanced approach to the topic. I'd like to make this page a more useful resource. Is there anyone who would like to work on improving the article with me?
Ideally, I'd like to split the article's work into sections. I think the current section breakdown is... fine, but could probably be improved. If anyone wants to work on getting this, at least to B status with me, please ping me and we can work out a plan! ThaesOfereode ( talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)