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I understand that this category is supposed to list stubs related to the Hunter Region of New South Wales, Australia but it's only doing a partial job of that and I'm not sure what the correct solution to the problem is. The category has three current templates; {{ LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{ NewcastleNSW-geo-stub}} and {{ PortStephens-geo-stub}} which correspond to Local Government Areas (LGAs) in the region. This doesn't seem enough as there are eleven LGAs in the region. This means that currently, eight LGAs are being missed, or rather, they are being listed under the general category ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:New South Wales geography stubs. The simple solution would seem to be creation of the eight missing templates but I don't see what the point of having individual stub types is since all that each of these templates does is place the article in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hunter region geography stubs. It would seem more appropriate to create one template, {{ HunterRegion-geo-stub}}, rather than have eleven templates that do the same thing. I see that in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Central Coast, New South Wales geography stubs, ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Riverina geography stubs and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Sydney geography stubs, this is what has been done. It's only in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hunter region geography stubs and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Illawarra region geography stubs that there are individual stubs for each LGA. My question is therefore, how do I start the ball rolling to fix this? -- AussieLegend ( talk) 14:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
When I created Category:Wind farm stubs, Category:Renewable power plant stubs, and Category:Hydroelectric power plant stubs, I just took Category:Renewable energy stubs as a model without questioning its content, which included {{ WPSS-cat}}. Now, thanks to a recent edit to the wind farm stubs which removed this template, I realized that I actually don't understand its purpose. The info about how to create new stub templates and categories is not directly relevant to an existing stub category. This and more should be readily available at Wikipedia:Stub. A link there is already in {{ Stub Category}}, which I assume is on top of every stub cat already. — Sebastian 21:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I am trying to diffuse Category:Art stubs and am running across many stubs about gallery owners and art collectors, like Joseph del Pesco and Javier Peres. I think it would be logical to sort these under Category:Art museums and galleries stubs, but would like other input before I do so. Another frequent type of art stub I'm coming across relates to art awards, honors, and competitions- it may be good to have a stub category for these too. Litho derm 01:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Please edit/improve as desired. Her Pegship (tis herself) 01:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been busy reverting a series of anonymous edits to various Spanish regional geography stubs which have in some cases seen regional stub types turned into redirects to Spain-stub or Spain-geo-stub, and in other removed dedicated categories and replaced them with the Spanish basic ones - in all cases requiring a considerable number of null-edits to get things back to normal. Does anyone know what's going on and whether there's some reason for it? The templates affected have been {{ CanaryIslands-geo-stub}} (both removed from their dedicated categories and upmerged to the Spanish national categories) {{ Plazadesoberanía-stub}} and {{ Plazadesoberanía-geo-stub}} (both turned into redirects to the Spain equivalents). I've just done 50-odd null edits to try to get things back where they belong.
There also seem to have been some un-upmerged templates which should have stayed upmerged (we have an unhealthily small ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Almería province geography stubs, which seems to never have been proposed). Also, at some time during the last year an anon (presumably someone from Spanish Wikipedia) has gone through and changed a lot of the Spanish regional stub templates over to asbox types - quite sloppily at times. I changed about 20 of them back before I gave up in disgust. Just to compound everything, there's a slow-rolling edit war going on at Catalonia-geo-stub. Fun times. Grutness... wha? 08:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I've pinged Grutness about this without any response. As such, I'd appreciate if in future conversions to use {{ asbox}} are not summarily reverted in future; there doesn't appear to be any particular technical problem with the template, and it's a boon for maintenance and standardisation. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
This is funny, first the thing is not flexible enough, and then you end your argument with that it goes out of it's way to make it too flexible... — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 17:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Category:Stubs currently holds just one item - Supta Virasana. It seems to be a yoga position (the creating editor didn't actually bother to tell us so ...), and I can find no appropriate stub type. I think I've hit this problem before - any suggestions? We don't seem to have a useful umbrella like "Exercise" or "Physical training". PamD ( talk) 11:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
This has been noticed twice now...‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hebrew Bible stubs was created to replace ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Tanakh stubs, which was then duly deleted, but apparently there are still hundreds of articles linked to the latter category. I tried some null edits on articles, the template, and even the category, to no avail. I recently renamed several other categories under ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:European organization stubs, but this time did not delete the old ones, for fear the same thing would happen. Does anyone know a trick to get the server to do something to solve this? Or is it something in the category or template code that needs fixing? (Pardon my abysmal ignorance, but dammit, Jim! I'm an editor, not a programmer!). Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 18:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Server lag has been a huge problem with all stub categories since before Christmas. I'm having to do null edits on everything with every new stub type created. It's a right royal pain. Grutness... wha? 07:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a specific reason why the Canadian history stubs have the Red Ensign as the image? (e.g. Rowell-Sirois Commission) I understand that the Red Ensign is Canada's old flag, so I guess it speaks to Canadian history, but it seems more appropriate to have the current Canadian flag, because after all, the articles dealt with are about the history of what we now know as Canada, and contemporary Canada is associated with today's flag. I also recall that when putting flags in articles of famous Canadians born before the contemporary flag was adopted in 1965 it is appropriate to use the contemporary flag anyways. I hope I'm posting this inquiry in the right place, please let me know if I'm not. -- The Fwanksta ( talk) 19:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Any chance this project might take on the standardisation of format of stub messages? An "article" like Midlands Plateau is currently as messy as can be because of the poorly formatted stub messages - different justification, different line spacing. thanks -- Tagishsimon (talk) 01:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
My sandbox is, not surprisingly, at User:Grutness/Sandbox, and has the coding for "Xian footy bio stub" at the top. And the Scottish template doesn't address the other problemI mentioned: it can only link to one category. And as I keep saying, it's impossible to provide a "concrete set of cases", since every time an asbox stub template hasn't seemed to be working properly over the last year or however long it's been since asbox was created, it's simply been replaced with the older form which does work. I'm not sure whether there's anyone who keeps a list of the cases where it hasn't done its work. Given that there was a fairly strong feeling among several stub sorters (myself and Alai included) that the trial run of asbox was just that - a trial run, to see whether it worked and saved effort (it didn't, on either count, to anywhere near the level where it was worth continuing the trial) - and not intended to be permanent, there seemed no need to keep a list of the dozens of asbox-style stub templates which were replaced with the more effective ones. Grutness... wha? 23:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
What is the status of this ? I've been looking at some of this lately, and rediscovered (i discovered it last year as well), that there are some serious issues with the stub templates. Formatting is all over the place, they use class=notice and class=boilerplate, both classes that have been deprecated, they all use the "unique" ID: "stub", which is incorrect, because there can be multiple stubs on a page. In my opinion it is time we start getting serious about standardization here. I understand the argument of the "non-technical" enduser, but seriously, how hard is it to read documentation and specifying some options. In my opinion no more difficult than coming to this place to "propose" your stub. Also, the proliferation and abundance of the *mbox series and infoboxes over the last couple of years have significantly increased editors experience with these kinds of templates. In my opinion a good cleanup run of the stubs is overdue, and my hands are itching to do so. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered User:Ais523/stubtagtab2.js and installed it on my monobook.js page, but it doesn't seem to be having any effect. Before I pester the scriptwriter (he seems to be awfully busy), has anyone else used this script, and with what result? Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 06:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know where to find this number, or if it's easily findable. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether these 4 categories count as "Discoveries" or not: they all have the blue "This category is for..." box, but not the green "This category is maintained by..." box. Category:Environment stubs (282 pages), and 3 of its children: Category:Sustainability stubs (77), Category:Water supply stubs (100) and Category:Wind farm stubs (135). PamD ( talk) 10:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Wagle Comes from Rogaland in Norway and originally written as Vagle.Branches of this family were established in both Denmark and Sweden,the Swedish branch having been ennobled by King Charles XIII. The family is of ducal origin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.44.250 ( talk) 13:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I have created one stub template that incorporates all three of these after some confusion between the DLR and the LU. The London Overground was relatively small as well (not the system, the number of stubs). After what can effectively be called a merger, stubs in all three systems, plus any other topic related if it is added, can be found at Category:London Transport stubs, with the change to new template of Template:London-transport-stub. Simply south ( talk) 11:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I've just stubsorted Judith of Hungary, giving her both {{ Hungary-bio-stub}} and {{ Hungary-hist-stub}}. I'm mystified as to why she hasn't got into Category:Hungarian history stubs. Can anyone explain? Is there something forbidden about being both History and Biography (it seemed reasonable here)? Is the stub template broken in some way? Am I just missing something? Thanks, PamD ( talk) 21:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
On April 4, a whole bunch of {{ sfp bottom}}s on the Feb 2009 SFD page were subst'd by a bot. WP:SUBST says this template should always be subst'd; this is news to me, and I wonder if there's a change we stub sorters should know about. I can't find a discussion on it. I have no problem subst'ing; I'm just looking for information. Thanks - Pegship ( talk) 20:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
These categories have been empty for over a month now. Is anyone working on this?
-- Stepheng3 ( talk) 17:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Has someone been deleting stub redirects lately? I'm trying to sort stubs, but I type things like {{ NewYork-bio-stub}} and {{ Australia-rugby-stub}}, and I get redlinks. I used to get useful pages, where I could go and figure out the more specific template that I needed. Now I'm left guessing.
Or... am I just out of sync today? - GTBacchus( talk) 22:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Howdy all - In an attempt to organize the To do page a bit, I suggest we 1. eliminate the "excess articles" section at the end, since it hasn't been update since October (and isn't likely to be), and 2. rename the "oversized categories to be split" to "categories to be re-sorted or split", which is frequently more accurate. In other news, at least one other WPSSer has noticed the backlog of work without our two main mop-wielders (Grutness and Alai) and I would like to ask everyone, in a seasonally appropriate baseball metaphor, to step up to the plate and do a little grunt work -- populating new categories, assigning new upmerged templates, etc. Thanks for listening. Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 19:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
An editor is putting {{ stub}} tags at the top of articles. I've pointed out that WP:stub says "By convention this is placed at the end of the article, after the External links section, any navigation templates, and the category tags, so that the stub category will appear last." and asked her to do this, but she first ignored me completely, and now says "I am trying to politely agree to disagree with you. You made your point the first time and have no need to repeat it several times. We disagree and that is it. I will continue to not reply in the future because I don't think it will benefit either of us to discuss the issue further.". Any suggestions for how we can encourage her to put the tags at the end? It makes stub-sorting more difficult when you have to hunt the stub tag and then delete it from the top, rather than just editing it at the end. I've asked a couple of earlier editors to put the tags at the end rather than the top and they've happily complied: I'm somewhat taken aback by the attitude I've now encountered! PamD ( talk) 18:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
So I made a wee oopsie and created a new stub type with associated category without going through the process here. Sorry. So er... it's here. Thought you might like to know. I'm currently updating relevant articles with the new one. // roux 21:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi all - it's been pointed out to me that WP:STUB is the nearest we have to a stub manual of style, but that it isn't really in line with other MOS-type documents, and quite a bit which would be on there if it were a MOS document is actually in aa separate area ( WP:WSS/NG). Is it worth revamping the Wikipedia:Stub page, possibly along the lines of this? -
It would make it clear that the naming "guidelines' have been regarded as conventions for some time, and would make them a distinct part of WP:STUB, without lengthening the page. It would also make it easier for it to conform to the other MoS pages. (crossposted at Wikipedia talk:Stub - please make any responses there, not here) Grutness... wha? 06:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to help sort stubs, I find tedious repetitive stuff like this relaxing sometimes (no really...). When adding or replacing a stub-cat, should the change be marked as major or minor? Thanks Sasata ( talk) 02:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
This stub has a promo link to http://invisionindia.com/services.htm {{ India-business-bio-stub}}
How can this be removed?
OK, i'm an outsider, and I just can't wrap my head around what you guys want in a stub. So some questions:
If someone can please answer, then I can get to work on creating a custom tailored template that will suit your needs. I'm really not convinced by Alai's arguments that:
{{subst:MetaPicstub|image=example.jpg|size=40|article=football related article|category=Football}}
is any easier than:
{{asbox|image=example.jpg|article=football related article|category=Football stubs}}
A metatemplate can be protected against vandalism, and templates are many times more efficient than they were 4 years ago (when metatemplates indeed were a potential problem). We make regular changes to high transclusion templates these days, without many people ever noticing it. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 12:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Just my 2¢. Pegship ( talk) 15:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
image = Accepts all types of image specifications [[File:Example.jpg]] or Example.jpg (autosized 40x30px) or [[File:Example|50px]] or [[File:Example.jpg]][[File:Example2.jpg]] article= same as article for metapicstub/picstuc
Humm, I was just coming here to suggest a change to start using {{
ambox}}'s (or {{
asbox}}'s, I guess). Good think that I looked over the talk page first. I almost missed this discussion (which is why I modified the title slightly).
I think that if those of you who are against this proposal would just take a breath, and take a step back, that you would see the merits of what
TheDJ is proposing here. Aside from the technical merits of what
TheDJ is proposing (Which are significant, by the way!), the fact is that the rest of Wikipedia has basically standardized on their look and feel. Personally, I believe that their overused, but since they are used (and the stub "community" is a heavy user) they should all use a standard look and feel.
Ω (
talk)
05:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The proposal is to convert existing hard-coded stubs to use the Template:asbox, where possible.
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I understand that this category is supposed to list stubs related to the Hunter Region of New South Wales, Australia but it's only doing a partial job of that and I'm not sure what the correct solution to the problem is. The category has three current templates; {{ LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{ NewcastleNSW-geo-stub}} and {{ PortStephens-geo-stub}} which correspond to Local Government Areas (LGAs) in the region. This doesn't seem enough as there are eleven LGAs in the region. This means that currently, eight LGAs are being missed, or rather, they are being listed under the general category ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:New South Wales geography stubs. The simple solution would seem to be creation of the eight missing templates but I don't see what the point of having individual stub types is since all that each of these templates does is place the article in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hunter region geography stubs. It would seem more appropriate to create one template, {{ HunterRegion-geo-stub}}, rather than have eleven templates that do the same thing. I see that in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Central Coast, New South Wales geography stubs, ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Riverina geography stubs and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Sydney geography stubs, this is what has been done. It's only in ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hunter region geography stubs and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Illawarra region geography stubs that there are individual stubs for each LGA. My question is therefore, how do I start the ball rolling to fix this? -- AussieLegend ( talk) 14:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
When I created Category:Wind farm stubs, Category:Renewable power plant stubs, and Category:Hydroelectric power plant stubs, I just took Category:Renewable energy stubs as a model without questioning its content, which included {{ WPSS-cat}}. Now, thanks to a recent edit to the wind farm stubs which removed this template, I realized that I actually don't understand its purpose. The info about how to create new stub templates and categories is not directly relevant to an existing stub category. This and more should be readily available at Wikipedia:Stub. A link there is already in {{ Stub Category}}, which I assume is on top of every stub cat already. — Sebastian 21:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I am trying to diffuse Category:Art stubs and am running across many stubs about gallery owners and art collectors, like Joseph del Pesco and Javier Peres. I think it would be logical to sort these under Category:Art museums and galleries stubs, but would like other input before I do so. Another frequent type of art stub I'm coming across relates to art awards, honors, and competitions- it may be good to have a stub category for these too. Litho derm 01:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Please edit/improve as desired. Her Pegship (tis herself) 01:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I've been busy reverting a series of anonymous edits to various Spanish regional geography stubs which have in some cases seen regional stub types turned into redirects to Spain-stub or Spain-geo-stub, and in other removed dedicated categories and replaced them with the Spanish basic ones - in all cases requiring a considerable number of null-edits to get things back to normal. Does anyone know what's going on and whether there's some reason for it? The templates affected have been {{ CanaryIslands-geo-stub}} (both removed from their dedicated categories and upmerged to the Spanish national categories) {{ Plazadesoberanía-stub}} and {{ Plazadesoberanía-geo-stub}} (both turned into redirects to the Spain equivalents). I've just done 50-odd null edits to try to get things back where they belong.
There also seem to have been some un-upmerged templates which should have stayed upmerged (we have an unhealthily small ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Almería province geography stubs, which seems to never have been proposed). Also, at some time during the last year an anon (presumably someone from Spanish Wikipedia) has gone through and changed a lot of the Spanish regional stub templates over to asbox types - quite sloppily at times. I changed about 20 of them back before I gave up in disgust. Just to compound everything, there's a slow-rolling edit war going on at Catalonia-geo-stub. Fun times. Grutness... wha? 08:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I've pinged Grutness about this without any response. As such, I'd appreciate if in future conversions to use {{ asbox}} are not summarily reverted in future; there doesn't appear to be any particular technical problem with the template, and it's a boon for maintenance and standardisation. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
This is funny, first the thing is not flexible enough, and then you end your argument with that it goes out of it's way to make it too flexible... — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 17:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Category:Stubs currently holds just one item - Supta Virasana. It seems to be a yoga position (the creating editor didn't actually bother to tell us so ...), and I can find no appropriate stub type. I think I've hit this problem before - any suggestions? We don't seem to have a useful umbrella like "Exercise" or "Physical training". PamD ( talk) 11:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
This has been noticed twice now...‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Hebrew Bible stubs was created to replace ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Tanakh stubs, which was then duly deleted, but apparently there are still hundreds of articles linked to the latter category. I tried some null edits on articles, the template, and even the category, to no avail. I recently renamed several other categories under ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:European organization stubs, but this time did not delete the old ones, for fear the same thing would happen. Does anyone know a trick to get the server to do something to solve this? Or is it something in the category or template code that needs fixing? (Pardon my abysmal ignorance, but dammit, Jim! I'm an editor, not a programmer!). Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 18:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Server lag has been a huge problem with all stub categories since before Christmas. I'm having to do null edits on everything with every new stub type created. It's a right royal pain. Grutness... wha? 07:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a specific reason why the Canadian history stubs have the Red Ensign as the image? (e.g. Rowell-Sirois Commission) I understand that the Red Ensign is Canada's old flag, so I guess it speaks to Canadian history, but it seems more appropriate to have the current Canadian flag, because after all, the articles dealt with are about the history of what we now know as Canada, and contemporary Canada is associated with today's flag. I also recall that when putting flags in articles of famous Canadians born before the contemporary flag was adopted in 1965 it is appropriate to use the contemporary flag anyways. I hope I'm posting this inquiry in the right place, please let me know if I'm not. -- The Fwanksta ( talk) 19:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Any chance this project might take on the standardisation of format of stub messages? An "article" like Midlands Plateau is currently as messy as can be because of the poorly formatted stub messages - different justification, different line spacing. thanks -- Tagishsimon (talk) 01:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
My sandbox is, not surprisingly, at User:Grutness/Sandbox, and has the coding for "Xian footy bio stub" at the top. And the Scottish template doesn't address the other problemI mentioned: it can only link to one category. And as I keep saying, it's impossible to provide a "concrete set of cases", since every time an asbox stub template hasn't seemed to be working properly over the last year or however long it's been since asbox was created, it's simply been replaced with the older form which does work. I'm not sure whether there's anyone who keeps a list of the cases where it hasn't done its work. Given that there was a fairly strong feeling among several stub sorters (myself and Alai included) that the trial run of asbox was just that - a trial run, to see whether it worked and saved effort (it didn't, on either count, to anywhere near the level where it was worth continuing the trial) - and not intended to be permanent, there seemed no need to keep a list of the dozens of asbox-style stub templates which were replaced with the more effective ones. Grutness... wha? 23:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
What is the status of this ? I've been looking at some of this lately, and rediscovered (i discovered it last year as well), that there are some serious issues with the stub templates. Formatting is all over the place, they use class=notice and class=boilerplate, both classes that have been deprecated, they all use the "unique" ID: "stub", which is incorrect, because there can be multiple stubs on a page. In my opinion it is time we start getting serious about standardization here. I understand the argument of the "non-technical" enduser, but seriously, how hard is it to read documentation and specifying some options. In my opinion no more difficult than coming to this place to "propose" your stub. Also, the proliferation and abundance of the *mbox series and infoboxes over the last couple of years have significantly increased editors experience with these kinds of templates. In my opinion a good cleanup run of the stubs is overdue, and my hands are itching to do so. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered User:Ais523/stubtagtab2.js and installed it on my monobook.js page, but it doesn't seem to be having any effect. Before I pester the scriptwriter (he seems to be awfully busy), has anyone else used this script, and with what result? Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 06:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know where to find this number, or if it's easily findable. - GTBacchus( talk) 00:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether these 4 categories count as "Discoveries" or not: they all have the blue "This category is for..." box, but not the green "This category is maintained by..." box. Category:Environment stubs (282 pages), and 3 of its children: Category:Sustainability stubs (77), Category:Water supply stubs (100) and Category:Wind farm stubs (135). PamD ( talk) 10:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Wagle Comes from Rogaland in Norway and originally written as Vagle.Branches of this family were established in both Denmark and Sweden,the Swedish branch having been ennobled by King Charles XIII. The family is of ducal origin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.44.250 ( talk) 13:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I have created one stub template that incorporates all three of these after some confusion between the DLR and the LU. The London Overground was relatively small as well (not the system, the number of stubs). After what can effectively be called a merger, stubs in all three systems, plus any other topic related if it is added, can be found at Category:London Transport stubs, with the change to new template of Template:London-transport-stub. Simply south ( talk) 11:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I've just stubsorted Judith of Hungary, giving her both {{ Hungary-bio-stub}} and {{ Hungary-hist-stub}}. I'm mystified as to why she hasn't got into Category:Hungarian history stubs. Can anyone explain? Is there something forbidden about being both History and Biography (it seemed reasonable here)? Is the stub template broken in some way? Am I just missing something? Thanks, PamD ( talk) 21:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
On April 4, a whole bunch of {{ sfp bottom}}s on the Feb 2009 SFD page were subst'd by a bot. WP:SUBST says this template should always be subst'd; this is news to me, and I wonder if there's a change we stub sorters should know about. I can't find a discussion on it. I have no problem subst'ing; I'm just looking for information. Thanks - Pegship ( talk) 20:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
These categories have been empty for over a month now. Is anyone working on this?
-- Stepheng3 ( talk) 17:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Has someone been deleting stub redirects lately? I'm trying to sort stubs, but I type things like {{ NewYork-bio-stub}} and {{ Australia-rugby-stub}}, and I get redlinks. I used to get useful pages, where I could go and figure out the more specific template that I needed. Now I'm left guessing.
Or... am I just out of sync today? - GTBacchus( talk) 22:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Howdy all - In an attempt to organize the To do page a bit, I suggest we 1. eliminate the "excess articles" section at the end, since it hasn't been update since October (and isn't likely to be), and 2. rename the "oversized categories to be split" to "categories to be re-sorted or split", which is frequently more accurate. In other news, at least one other WPSSer has noticed the backlog of work without our two main mop-wielders (Grutness and Alai) and I would like to ask everyone, in a seasonally appropriate baseball metaphor, to step up to the plate and do a little grunt work -- populating new categories, assigning new upmerged templates, etc. Thanks for listening. Cheers, Pegship ( talk) 19:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
An editor is putting {{ stub}} tags at the top of articles. I've pointed out that WP:stub says "By convention this is placed at the end of the article, after the External links section, any navigation templates, and the category tags, so that the stub category will appear last." and asked her to do this, but she first ignored me completely, and now says "I am trying to politely agree to disagree with you. You made your point the first time and have no need to repeat it several times. We disagree and that is it. I will continue to not reply in the future because I don't think it will benefit either of us to discuss the issue further.". Any suggestions for how we can encourage her to put the tags at the end? It makes stub-sorting more difficult when you have to hunt the stub tag and then delete it from the top, rather than just editing it at the end. I've asked a couple of earlier editors to put the tags at the end rather than the top and they've happily complied: I'm somewhat taken aback by the attitude I've now encountered! PamD ( talk) 18:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
So I made a wee oopsie and created a new stub type with associated category without going through the process here. Sorry. So er... it's here. Thought you might like to know. I'm currently updating relevant articles with the new one. // roux 21:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi all - it's been pointed out to me that WP:STUB is the nearest we have to a stub manual of style, but that it isn't really in line with other MOS-type documents, and quite a bit which would be on there if it were a MOS document is actually in aa separate area ( WP:WSS/NG). Is it worth revamping the Wikipedia:Stub page, possibly along the lines of this? -
It would make it clear that the naming "guidelines' have been regarded as conventions for some time, and would make them a distinct part of WP:STUB, without lengthening the page. It would also make it easier for it to conform to the other MoS pages. (crossposted at Wikipedia talk:Stub - please make any responses there, not here) Grutness... wha? 06:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to help sort stubs, I find tedious repetitive stuff like this relaxing sometimes (no really...). When adding or replacing a stub-cat, should the change be marked as major or minor? Thanks Sasata ( talk) 02:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
This stub has a promo link to http://invisionindia.com/services.htm {{ India-business-bio-stub}}
How can this be removed?
OK, i'm an outsider, and I just can't wrap my head around what you guys want in a stub. So some questions:
If someone can please answer, then I can get to work on creating a custom tailored template that will suit your needs. I'm really not convinced by Alai's arguments that:
{{subst:MetaPicstub|image=example.jpg|size=40|article=football related article|category=Football}}
is any easier than:
{{asbox|image=example.jpg|article=football related article|category=Football stubs}}
A metatemplate can be protected against vandalism, and templates are many times more efficient than they were 4 years ago (when metatemplates indeed were a potential problem). We make regular changes to high transclusion templates these days, without many people ever noticing it. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 12:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Just my 2¢. Pegship ( talk) 15:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
image = Accepts all types of image specifications [[File:Example.jpg]] or Example.jpg (autosized 40x30px) or [[File:Example|50px]] or [[File:Example.jpg]][[File:Example2.jpg]] article= same as article for metapicstub/picstuc
Humm, I was just coming here to suggest a change to start using {{
ambox}}'s (or {{
asbox}}'s, I guess). Good think that I looked over the talk page first. I almost missed this discussion (which is why I modified the title slightly).
I think that if those of you who are against this proposal would just take a breath, and take a step back, that you would see the merits of what
TheDJ is proposing here. Aside from the technical merits of what
TheDJ is proposing (Which are significant, by the way!), the fact is that the rest of Wikipedia has basically standardized on their look and feel. Personally, I believe that their overused, but since they are used (and the stub "community" is a heavy user) they should all use a standard look and feel.
Ω (
talk)
05:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The proposal is to convert existing hard-coded stubs to use the Template:asbox, where possible.