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I am developing an idea of creating notability guideline about televised sports events in WP:Village pump (idea lab)#Notability (television). I could have some assistance if you are willing to help out. -- George Ho ( talk) 15:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
An SPA and an IP editor have added a wall of unsourced text (and a bunch of strange nonexistent categories) to this article, and have removed much of the pre-existing standard formatting in the process. I might be inclined to revert to the last normal-looking version [1] but the added material does seem to include some valid content that probably could be sourced, so I'd appreciate a look by some NFL-experienced editors to see if they think it's worth salvaging and improving. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 01:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi fellows! A user became in active and then this was started. This page was nominated by them and there is no one to fix the issues. I tried but I know nothing about the game and I m having trouble in dealing with it. I will not be able to do any more to it so can anyone from you please try to fix the problems. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks! →TSU tp* 14:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
I think that quarterbacks who at one point or another were the primary, first string, starting quarterback (not due to injury) should be in bold. The box makes it too hard for the reader to indentify which quarterbacks were truly the most important. There will always be gray area (Tom Owens and Norm Snead both started the same number of games in between John Brodie's retirement and the arrival of Jim Plunkett), but at least putting names in bold would make it easier to tell. --
67.180.161.183
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67.180.161.183
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21:00, 11 July 2012 (UTC)The 49ers are relatively an easy one to do compared to other teams. Here are others; the early Broncos quarterbacks (prior to Morton) are very "iffy"-- it's almost as if they have 10 quarterbacks on their roster every year and they rolled dice to see which one would start:
This is all based off of information from
List of Denver Broncos starting quarterbacks and other corresponding articles. --
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This one uses these exact rules: Started more games than any other quarterback on the roster for two seasons or more, or started 13 games or more for at least one season and not due to injury:
I think if the need for specific rules is important, then these rules can be used. And yes, I realize that the other four infoboxes would have to be modified to qualify for said rules. --
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02:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Why aren't there templates for career statistics tables for various positions? I haven't been able to find any. Has this been discussed?-- Batard0 ( talk) 12:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I just nominated the WP:WikiProject National Football League/Denver Broncos subproject for deletion. I was just informed to make you guys aware of this. Besides, the project rarely even took off. (Discussion here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Denver Broncos subproject) Zappa O Mati 16:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Could ya'll check out what I've done to expand it and possibly regrade it? And if you could help me get the years in the infobox to line up with the teams coached I would really appreciate it. Cra sh Underride 05:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
In player infoboxes, how does "Offseason and/or practice squad member only" apply to the preseason? For example, Lee Evans was released by the Jaguars following the first preseason game. Should he have an asterisk for 2012 or not? I would tend to think so seeing as that teams carry a 90-man roster in the preseason. ~ Richmond96 t • c 21:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I recently listed Tom Brady at WP:GAN. If you have any experience with reviewing Good Articles and would like to help out, please don't hesitate to make constructive comments. Achowat ( talk) 19:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi folks, quick question. In the infobox for a player who attended multiple colleges, are all colleges listed or just the last school attended? Russell Wilson played 3 years at NC State, graduated, then played his final eligibility year at Wisconsin. Should it be "Wisconsin, NC State", "NC State, Wisconsin", or just "Wisconsin"? Thanks. SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 11:08, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm getting a "forbidden" error when I click on the links in the Quality/Importance scale grid. It used to show a list of articles that met the chosen criteria (i.e. if you clicked on the number representing stub-class top-importance articles, it would give you a listing). It hasn't been working for a week or so. Anyone know what's up with it?-- Batard0 ( talk) 13:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
On August 28, the Bears redesigned their website, so now any sources from their website before the redesign now redirect to the home page. Because of this, much of the references on pages will need cleanup. Zappa O Mati 02:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Please feel free to read & comment here. Thank you. Marketdiamond ( talk) 18:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The following season pages are still using the {{<team> staff}} and {{<team> roster}} current roster templates:
They should be using {{ NFL final staff}} and {{ NFL final roster}} for the 2011 season instead. Hoof Hearted ( talk) 15:58, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
The redirect No Fun League, which currently points at the main National Football League article, has been nominated for deletion. At the discussion I have raised the possibility of adding a relevant sentence at List of NFL nicknames and retargetting the redirect there. This suggestion, and the discussion in general, would benefit from knowledgeable users such as yourselves. Please comment at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 September 23#No Fun League rather than here. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
I hate 'em too. But that's not a reason to list them by name when they are not notable, or public, people. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 06:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps the NFL WikiProject should make a determination on if the replacement refs are notable enough to merit having their own articles like the regular refs. Automatic Strikeout 03:24, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Could someone please manufacture for us an infobox for NFL referee/official articles? I was looking at Clete Blakeman's article just now, and I thought it could use an infobox just to summarise the content. – Pee Jay 19:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
I think that a worthy goal of the Wiki-Project would be adding "box scores" to the templates already on team's season pages. I have tried to do this for a few teams, but I obviously can't do it alone. I'd appreciate some help, maybe we could have users "adopt a division" or "adopt a few games a week" to monitor. Just a thought. Thanks-- Go Phightins! ( talk) 17:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Several hours ago, I was approached by Electriccatfish2 about creating a refs task force similar to baseball umps task force I helped start earlier this year. Go Phightins! and I have since started work on it, although there is still work to be done. I figured it would probably be a good idea to leave a note here for those who may be interested. Automatic Strikeout 03:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on the following discussion here: Talk:2012 Green Bay Packers–Seattle Seahawks game#Rename the article. Zappa O Mati 00:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
User:99.230.226.161 is going through NFL GM articles and adding win/loss tables like here for Thomas Dimitroff diff. I'm not very familiar with this project but this information does not appear to be necessary or even that relevant since the GM is not directly involved in the outcomes of games like coaches and players are. Is there any existing consensus for this issue or does anyone have any thoughts on the subject? SQGibbon ( talk) 04:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
per some discussion at
Template talk:Infobox NFL player, it was basically decided that listing |highlights=NA
or |highlights=None
or |highlights=No notable achievements
was a bit harsh. if there is nothing to report, than just don't report anything. in the spirit of this concept, I have created
Category:NFL player with NA highlights. you can remove a player from this category by simply removing the "none" or "N/A" from this field. while you are at it, you can remove any <nowiki></nowiki> anywhere in the infobox, since these are no longer necessary to get the bullet markup to work. this is especially helpful when there is nothing being passed to that parameter, since it tricks the template into thinking there is something there. examples of cleanup edits:
[2]
[3]
[4]. if you find any N/A type entries in articles that are not in the tracking category, let me know so I can update the tracking code.
Frietjes (
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Can I get a ruling on the use of "A. P." as a nickname for Adrian Peterson. Some anonymous editor came along a few days ago to remove it because Peterson himself decried the use of that nickname, but surely if people use that name for him, it's still a nickname? A third-party opinion would be very useful. – Pee Jay 09:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I agree with PeeJay. The fact is this, people DO call him A.P. Many, many thousands of people refer to him that way. I think Peterson is the one who is confused about the purpose of this. He says his "true" nickname is AD. Fine, that may be what his friends, loved ones, and teammates call him. But people in the media and in the general public are not his friends, loved ones, or teammates. Those people have another nickname for him, that being "A.P.". That being said, I don't know why his nickname would be used in his wikipedia page. 167.102.150.4 ( talk) 20:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
As the article provided states, people who call him AP have it twisted, some people think AP is his nickname, in reality it is AD. The people who call him AP have it confused or are lazy, that doesn't make it his nickname, that makes those people confused or lazy.
A persons initials hardly qualifies as a nickname anyway.
Fact is the man himself has said no, that isn't my nickname. Fact is he has explained where his actual nickname comes from, fact is he has expressed how those who call him AP have it wrong. Yet for whatever reason you want to continue to have these people persist in being wrong rather than accept and respect the players actual nickname and have people be given the correct information. I provided quotes from him to support my stance, all you have done is stomp around. Clearly you were amongst the "confused" crowd. I remember when his Wiki page did not have AP listed on it, unfortunately someone who has it "twisted" came along and changed that. Now it has been changed back to being correct again. You can see it was only a few months ago that someone even decided to add it on to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 10:18, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
"thousands of reliable sources can be found for the use of "AP" to mean "Adrian Peterson" wow are you serious lol?
If anything most people when seeing AP, Football fan or not, would think Associated Press when they read AP. But as AD himself said, it's easy for people to be lazy and say AP, when they don't understand what his nickname actually is. Furthermore, he didn't choose that nickname, it is what was given to him.
and yet, amazingly enough, a Google search of "What is Adrian Peterson's nickname" shows nothing on the first page of results suggesting that it's AP. Even Purple Jesus gets in on the first page, but no AP. Aside of course from some thread with someone asking whether his nickname is AD or AP and someone explaining to that person that it is actually AD.
and indeed the further through the Google results you go, the same trend continues. Most of the mentions of "AP" are people asking whether his nickname is AP or AD or people explaining that AP is wrong. Funny, with these supposed thousands of reliable sources, you'd think Google would be picking them up somewhere?
Fact is the people who think it is AP are simply confused and have it wrong. It's AD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk • contribs)
It's not really confirmation bias at all, you'd suspect that if it indeed was his nickname and used so often, then a search of "What is Adrian Peterson's nickname" would bring up some support for that. It doesn't. Quite the opposite in fact.
AP is used as a nickname only by confused people who don't realise his real nickname is actually AD. That doesn't make it his nickname, that makes those people confused. Why continue to promote that rather than aid those confused people? You talk about me using a confirmation bias, but talk about using a search with AP in it to support your stance lol? my, completely unbiased search, brings up no support for the suggestion that AP is one of his nicknames, only people dismissing it. Funny huh? Peterson himself says people who call him AP have his nickname confused, searches for what his nickname are offer basically no acknowledgement that AP is one of his nicknames beyond people dismissing it, but we have people who respond with biased searches and "but but but BUT PEOPLE CALL HIM IT!!!1". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 03:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Because people want to see these other confused people helped and given the correct information. What's with the personal attacks? try to maintain a level of civility. Some have it twisted and think it's AP instead of AD, those people need the correct information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 09:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure that some of you are aware of this project which I helped to start up a while back as a focused collaborative effort which highlights specific articles for improvement with one being chosen per week. One of my dreams for this project has been that it would lead to more focused offshoot "TAFI" projects that are a subproject/task force (or something similar) for some different WikiProjects. I would like to suggest creating such an offshoot for this WikiProject. I would be willing to handle the clerical aspects of it. Would there be any interest in this? Automatic Strikeout 20:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I have a non-urgent question regarding Pascal Matla. According to the article, he "attended training camp with the New Orleans Saints in the summer of 2006, but was released before the regular season began". Does that make him a Saints player? He's included in the category, but I have my doubts. 83.80.170.157 ( talk) 19:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi all. The U.S. Army has been undergoing a lot of programs with the NFL concerning traumatic brain injury of late, and so there are a lot of stories on their site of NFL officials and players at various PR events, which fall into public domain and which Wikipedia can use. I noticed a lot of images of players from the Seahawks and west coast teams without a lot of photos on their pages. Might be helpful if someone looked here through the photos to see what's useful to the project. — Ed! (talk) 15:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed the following on all of my Wiki NFL uniform templates:
This other image was
uploaded in a
raster graphics format such as
PNG,
GIF, or
JPEG. However, it contains information that could be stored more efficiently and/or accurately in the
SVG format, as a
vector graphic. If possible, please upload an SVG version of this image. After confirming it is of comparable quality, please replace all instances of the previous version throughout Wikipedia (noted under the " File links" header), tag the old version with {{
Vector version available|NewImage.svg}} , and remove this tag. For more information, see
Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload. For assistance with converting to SVG, please see the
Graphics Lab.Do not re-draw or auto-trace non-free images; instead, seek out vector versions from official sources. |
I have no issue converting my PNG pictures into vector graphics, but I need assistance on how to do so. What's the simplest product to achieve this? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. JohnnySeoul ( talk) 15:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Not completely sure what was going on, but looks like a significant problem. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 07:01, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
We may need plenty of eyes here on the page about the former Chiefs player who committed a murder-suicide. There's been a lot of activity on the article and may be a lot more, even though the page is protected. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 17:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
I left a note at Template talk:Footballstats about NFL.com links for older players not being supported.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Would someone with a bit better understanding of tables look at that article? It may be somewhat broken. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 23:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots (formerly a subproject of WP:NFL), San Francisco 49ers and St. Louis Rams all have separate WikiProjects devoted to them, while the Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, New York Giants, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Redskins are all subprojects of WikiProject National Football League? Surely the former group should be converted to subprojects of WP:NFL? In fact, subproject is probably the wrong term; they should all be task forces. Can anyone enlighten me on this? – Pee Jay 11:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, there is a relatively new user who wants to add something Bill Walsh said about the Giants before Super Bowl XXV to that article. The user apparently is relying on memory, but I was wondering if anyone here can find a source that establishes that Walsh actually said what this user claims he said. I don't necessarily object to his proposal, as long as it gets sourced and edited to remove editorializing. Full discussion is at Talk:Super Bowl XXV. Thanks! — KuyaBriBri Talk 18:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
I ran across 2012 NFL quarterbacks win loss records today. First of all, kudos to Spparky for the time dedicated to this article. While the career all-time list may be notable per WP:LISTN (haven't looked for sources myself), it seems the 2012 specific information—if notable—belongs in 2012 NFL season or the individual team season articles. I'd suggest for next year that time alternatively be spent on line-graphs showing teams records over the weeks for the division title races in 2013 NFL season as opposed to a chart showing #1's for individual quarterbacks. My $.02.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
File:Ron East.JPG has been nominated for speedy deletion -- 76.65.128.43 ( talk) 07:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated American football, for good article status. Additionally, I have nominated List of NFL champions (1920-1969), a very important article to the NFL WikiProject, for featured list status. The latter would be an excellent compliment to the current FL List of Super Bowl champions. If any project members are interested in commenting on either, you are more than welcome to join in the discussion and help improve them even more. Thanks. Toa Nidhiki05 20:02, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Were any other WP:NFL editors aware of this TfD: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 October 30#Template:Infobox NFL coach? Why was no notice posted on this talk page? Why was no notice posted on the template page for Infobox NFL player? This appears to have been a major process error and failure to provide proper notice to WP:NFL. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 21:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
These are well-reasoned points. Just for reference, let's establish some basic facts and try to answer some questions:
Now, here are a couple of statements and questions meant to gauge where we stand on the infobox template issue, independent of the TfD question. They may not appear to be neutral, but I'm merely trying to establish a framework for discussion. I have no established opinion on the matter as yet. Please add statements to prompt further discussion. -- Batard0 ( talk) 09:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Statement 1 Setting aside all practical issues, the project's ultimate goal should be to merge all these templates into a single template (most likely Template:Infobox NFL player). This would allow for a focus on the development and improvement of a single infobox template instead of spreading ourselves thin on multiple templates that accomplish essentially the same task.
Support
Oppose
Discussion
Statement 2 Concerning the Template:Infobox NFL coach template, there are significant attributes that could be merged into the Template:Infobox NFL player, which the Template:Infobox NFL player template does not already cover in any fashion.
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Question 1 If these templates were to be merged (or if just one of them were to be merged into another), in what manner should that merger take place?
Question 2 Should the Template:Infobox NFL player be renamed?
Given that this thread has been open for over a week, I would like to move forward. If there are no objections, I plan to finish creating a merged version of the template in the sandbox. the plan is to create something which will result in (1) zero changes to the visual presentation in articles using template:infobox NFL player, (2) zero changes necessary to the articles using template:infobox NFL player, (3) minor changes (if any) to the visual presentation in articles using template:infobox NFL coach, and (4) minor changes (if any) to the articles using template:infobox NFL coach. both template:infobox NFL player and template:infobox NFL coach would be kept as redirects to the merged template, called template:infobox NFL biography. more redirects could be created if desired, of course. I will also expand the "testcases" page to show the various usage cases, showing that there is indeed "zero impact" on player articles. Frietjes ( talk) 21:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
When I was watching games this year, I kept noticing commercials of a partnership between the NFL and the USAA called "Salute to Service", which is intended to support our troops. Should a page on this partnership be created, or should we wait for the Salute to Service Award to be created, or not create it at all? [5] [6] [7] Zappa O Mati 02:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Gentlemen, Cuchullain and I have filed ANI reports regarding User:DragoLink08's continued disruptive editing and sock-puppetry. I have also requested appropriate range blocks for the University of South Florida IP addresses that have provided him with an escape hatch to continue his sock-puppetry for the past three years. Many of you have had to deal with Drago's disruptive editing of the color schemes for navboxes, infoboxes and tables. Your input at ANI is requested. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 10:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Appears to have 1993 SEASON/1994 Pro Bowl Rosters 67.198.82.87 ( talk) 14:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Template:NFL / NFC Champion coaches has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I just saw that {{ Pro Bowl MVPs}} was created. This fails WP:NAVBOX on multiple points. One rarely would want to go from one Pro Bowl MVP to another, there is not even a standalone article for Pro Bowl MVP like Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award, and nobody would be adding see also's to the other MVPs just because the template did not exist. Guidelines aside, what reliable sources really writes about all Pro Bowl MVPs as a group? Pro Bowl MVP isnt even worthy to mention in the lead of any bio that would be an FA. If this isn't clutter, I dont know what is. Just look at Marshall Faulk as an example of navboxes gone amok. There is even clutter for the Pro Bowl starters for individual years in his articles, and there are all the ones at Category:National Football League Pro Bowl navigational boxes.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:05, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I recently created an RfC to determine the order of awards on National Football League Rookie of the Year Award. Please comment here if you'd like. Thank you! SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 19:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I noticed in my watchlist the past three days, three different professional athletes editing articles about themselves, two former American football players and one former baseball, mostly minor information and corrections, nothing extremely serious. Yes it's technically a WP:COI but I feel like they can become productive members of the community considering their first-hand expertise with the sport and the poor shape of many of our articles in this project. User talk:DMcClover58 is one example who I saw pop up on my watchlist. Yes, like every new editor they need to learn our policies and guidelines, especially with sourcing, but considering the drop of active editors especially with American sports, we should treat them with respect and help them when needed (instead of driving them away with a bunch of warning templates and reversions, which is one of the main cause of new editors not staying in Wikipedia). What do you guys think? Hardly in my history of the project I've seen professional athletes edit articles about themselves, so this is a unique scenario. Thanks Secret account 20:22, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Very small change needed. On the main graphic, the Oakland Raiders are marked as having won the Super Bowl in 2002, when they lost to Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers are correctly starred. Just need to remove the star for the Raiders.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_franchise_timeline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.86.246 ( talk) 19:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
The Carolina Panthers, a topic of significant importance as one of the newest members of the NFL, is up for good article. If you are interested in commenting on or reviewing the article, please feel free to do so. Toa Nidhiki05 02:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a new article, Ideal team, that deals with virtual teams of top players like All-Pro. You are invited to discuss at Talk:Ideal team how best to handle this.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Since Category:Paul Brown coaching tree is of interest to this WikiProject, I am letting you know that its CfD can be found at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 February 7#Category:Paul Brown coaching tree. Thanks. Jrcla2 ( talk) 15:50, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I have proposed that World League of American Football be merged with NFL Europe. As both are under the scope of this WikiProject, any member of this project is invited to comment on the proposal at the NFL Europe talk page. Toa Nidhiki05 23:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
What's going on with the uniform images across the NFL? Lots of them were deleted and others were requested to be but declined. Now that User:JohnnySeoul is gone is there someone else that will be able to maintain and update these images? I could probably help out in some degree if I knew how. ~ Richmond96 T • C 01:24, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
The National Football League article is up for good article status. As a significant article in this WikiProject, any project members are invited to comment on or review the nomination. Toa Nidhiki05 01:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated 2001 NFL Draft for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Albacore ( talk) 17:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Every time there is unofficial news of a trade, signings, waiver, etc, editors rush to add it to an article as if it was official. I've created the essay Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions to capture how to handle this. It's easier to just drop this on a talk page/edit summary than having to explain this every time. Feel free to improve it.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
For the record, I assume there is consensus that players like Jeff Saturday that sign one-day contracts with their favorite team before retiring don't need their infobox updated for that 1-day stint.— Bagumba ( talk)
The description on Template:Infobox NFL player says "Schools names displayed should be consistent with how they are presented at NFL.com", which often uses abbreviations, such as "USC" for the University of Southern California, or "LSU" for Louisiana State University. In my opinion, we should avoid abbreviations to improve readability and to avoid ambiguity, unless the full name would be to long for the infobox (such as "University of California, Los Angeles" instead of "UCLA"). -- bender235 ( talk) 08:48, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I've been editing player pages to reflect their free agency status since the start of free agency. I'm having trouble trying to figure out the best way to structure the lead sentence of the intro. I've been using example: "Justin Deaon Tryon (born May 29, 1984) is an American football cornerback who is currently a free agent in the National Football League." As I read it, it looks superfluous. I've seen different variations of it that omit "currently" and "National Football League". There is also Example: "Adrian Lemar Wilson[1] (born October 12, 1979) is an American football strong safety who last played for the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League (NFL)." I like this one, but I think the free agent status should be included. What is the standard way to write the lead sentence for free agents? I've also been deleting the uniform number which then only shows "Free Agent" at the top of the infobox. I think it just looks better aesthetically to leave out the number, with the exception of when a player recently signs with a team and has not been given a number yet. Edday1051 ( talk) 07:51, 14 March 2013 (UTC)Edday1051
Back at the end of November, User:Ijustreadbooks nominated Bert Bell at GAN. I reviewed it last week and placed the nomination on hold but it appears that they have been pretty much inactive since the start of February. Is anyone here willing to pick up and complete the review on their behalf? Thanks, Reso lute 20:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. The Rambling Man ( talk) 17:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the infobox high school field be formatted like "Name of high school (City, State)" i.e. "Mater Dei (Santa Ana, California)" for a player who went to Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, California. Format like "Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei" don't always reflect the school's actual formal name, as not all schools formally take the city name. And I think city should always be mentioned to be more explicit about where Palestine High School for instance is located; "Palestine (TX)" makes it ambiguous to the casual reader who may not realize there's a city named such in the state. Arbor to SJ ( talk) 02:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
highschool
parameter we should link exclusively to a school, not a town. --
bender235 (
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18:25, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Please be aware of this discussion at MOS: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Years; reverts. This discussion grew out of a feature article review for an NBA basketball player Juwan Howard. Before jumping into the discussion, I suggest that you read the relevant MOS section, MOS:YEAR. As I'm sure you can see, this has the potential to significantly change the currently used year span conventions in the NFL player infoboxes. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 05:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Anyone interested in creating a navbox for NFLPA presidents? Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 19:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Was Drew Brees born in Dallas or Austin? The sources disagree. Our usual authorities for this kind of information, his page at NFL.com [8] and his official bio at the Saints website [9], both say that he was born in Austin. His foundation's official bio page calls him "A native of Austin, TX". [10] But a number of other reliable sources quote Brees as saying that he was born in Dallas and moved to Austin at age 7. [11] An editor has now supplied a link to an NFL Films program about Troy Aikman, in which Brees (the narrator) clearly says just that: he was born in Dallas, moved to Austin at 7. [12] How to handle? Comments are solicited at Talk:Drew Brees#Place of Birth. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 00:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Another editor and I are having a discussion on how the controversial final play should be described. All comments would be appreciated! Mbinebri talk ← 05:08, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The featured list nomination for List of NFL tied games has stalled, greatly hindering chances of it passing. Any and all input from project members at the FLN is welcome, so as to help get discussion and ultimately pass it as a featured list. Toa Nidhiki05 19:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Question: E. J. Manuel or EJ Manuel?
Per WP:INITS, we actually seperate initials with a full stop and a non-breaking space (i.e., "E. J."). Yet, apparently, EJ Manuel himself "uses" his initials w/out the full stop (i.e., "EJ"). What should Wikipedia do? -- bender235 ( talk) 14:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I have reviewed the article 1920 Rock Island Independents season which was nominated as a Good Article candidate back in December 2012. I conducted the review in mid-March, and Michael Jester ( talk · contribs) (who nominated the article) made a good start in addressing most of the comments I'd made. It seems that Michael has not been online since April 1, and there are still a few comments outstanding in the review. The review can be seen here. The main outstanding comments are generally regarding broadness, and I'm hoping that a member of this project may be able to address them without trouble. If anyone wants to pick up the article, it would be great. It's close to passing. Hope someone can help. Thanks. - Shudde talk 10:53, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
How should college names be listed in infoboxes in biographies for athletes associated with college athletics? Options include:
Feel free to add any missing options for discussion.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Am I the only person watching Tai Streets? His page was blanked for over 24 hours.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:52, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I don't know if anyone is watching this page, but I've made a proposal recently on an article listed as being "Top-importance" to this wikiproject: John Mackey (American football). The article contains false information, and I'm interested in finding another editor to review my suggestion ( see here) and make the change if you agree. The reason I ask in the first place: this request is made on behalf of the NFLPA, with whom I am working, so in the interests of following COI rules I'm avoiding direct article edits. Happy to answer any questions if need be. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 18:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
When the Jaguars unveil their new uniforms on Tuesday, and other teams around the league eventually do the same, do we have anyone who will be able to update the uniform images now that Johnny Seoul is gone? ~ Richmond96 T • C 23:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
file:Oorang.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 03:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to screw anything up, so can someone change the Jaguars primary color to black and the secondary color to gold (#d3a205) in order to reflect the changes in the team and player infoboxes? ~ Richmond96 T • C 03:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
When do you add a player to the active roster templates? After they are drafted? After minicamp? After they sign?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping an editor here can review an update I recently proposed for the Domonique Foxworth article. My request is on behalf of the NFLPA, like with the John Mackey article upthread, and I am avoiding direct edits due to my financial COI. (In the past I edited NFL-related articles for fun, but I'm refraining from that for now.) My request here is fairly simple. Though Foxworth is the current president of the NFLPA, his article currently implies that he is a former president. I would like to clarify this and add in a short section on his work with the NFLPA. If you are interested in helping with this, the full request is on the article's Talk page. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 22:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Any editor familiar with handling stadium article titles following a naming rights sale is welcome to provide input at Talk:Cleveland Browns Stadium#Requested move 2. Any editor unfamiliar with this type of situation is welcome, too. Thanks. Levdr1lostpassword / talk 06:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
An editor or editors using the IP addresses 74.79.23.210 and 96.47.126.196 have been changing player positions without sources, usually going against the positions listed on NFL.com and/or the team websites. May be a careless error or a WP:SOCK trying to vandalize pages, not sure. But I do think it is the same editor, the edits are too similar and at different times. Just wanted to bring this to your attention. Luchuslu ( talk) 16:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Do we only use official team or nfl.com profiles for height/weight, or can we use other sources? Russell Wilson just said in an official press conference that he now weighs 214 lbs, even though his official profiles list him as 206 lbs. SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 12:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I brought this up on the 2014 Draft talk page and I don't think anyone saw it— does anyone know why all the recent draft articles have a separate reference group for trades? I don't see any benefit to splitting up the references: you can always just click the number to find the one you're looking for. It makes the prose look really cluttery to have links that say "source 1" and "source 2" instead of just the numbers. – Thatotherperson ( talk/ contribs) 02:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
I've mentioned here previously that I'm working with the NFLPA to improve some articles on Wikipedia, and because of my financial COI, I'm asking volunteer editors to help with these improvements.
Most recently, I've proposed some updates and changes in wording for 2012 NFL referee lockout on the article's Talk page. One small change was made from it, but it doesn't look like anyone has yet considered the other suggestions. Would anyone else here mind taking a look? I'm happy to answer any questions over there. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 20:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, I'm hoping to get an editor or two to take a look at some additional suggestions that I recently posted on the Talk page for the 2012 NFL referee lockout article. Since I have a financial COI with regard to the article, as I'm currently working with the NFLPA, I'd appreciate it if someone here has a moment to pop over to take a look and, if appropriate, move the changes over into the article. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 15:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I have nominated the article 2,000-yard club for featured list status. There has no been much input, however, and it would be much appreciated if members of this WikiProject could provide sound and objective comments and analysis on whether the article meets the featured list criteria. Thanks! Toa Nidhiki05 21:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I've previously made a few requests here asking for volunteer editor assistance on articles related to the NFLPA, as I've been working on their behalf to help update articles of interest (by proposing changes, not by direct editing, I hasten to note).
The NFLPA has now asked me to take a look at the article titled NFLPA Game, and boy, it's quite a mess. The article seems to be covering three different games, but treating them all as if they were the same thing. The issues with the article have actually been raised previously on Talk:NFLPA Game, but it doesn't look like any kind of conclusion was reached.
Based on the research I've done, and input from the NFLPA themselves about the situation, here's what seems to have happened around the idea of an "NFLPA Game" (note that the following leans heavily on primary sources; although I'm well aware that press releases are not the most desirous sources, they are currently among the most complete):
It seems like untangling this, and deciding what to do about creating new articles, setting up redirects, etc., is going to be a bit complicated. Rather than just propose a solution to this, I'd like to get people's input and build consensus about how best to handle this situation.
So, what do people think? What's the best way to deal this mess? Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 15:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
National Football League is up for GA review. It looks close to passing once some small fixes are made, but before I sign off, I wanted to solicit opinions about whether the article sufficiently covers the "main aspects" of its topic. Is there anything you feel needs to be added? Comments welcome at Talk:National Football League/GA2 under the "Outside Comments" section. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 13:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Gcveintee ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Gcveintee has been changing/adding numbers for NFL players for months now, with incorrectly formatted refs. He hit an article on my watchlist so I verified his changes. They were incorrect. I spot checked four random edits - all incorrect.
Given that these were the first four edits I spot checked, it's a good bet most of edits are wrong. -- NeilN talk to me 13:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a heads up, User:Dicklyon has recently been moving every NBA Draft article from (example) "2013 NBA Draft" to "2013 NBA draft" citing MOS capitalization norms. Not sure if anyone wants discussion of this before he continues to move NFL Draft pages (he has already started) but if you don't agree you may want to address it now. If you all agree with the moves, then obviously no issue. Rikster2 ( talk) 02:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Thought I would get some feedback from you all regarding the list of Pats players article. I feel the article (as are many NFL Football teams player rosters) is unworkable now. If all past players are added, then all the awards info will make the article way too long. I thought I would keep it simple and sortable. Example is found below. Thoughts????
Also, sports teams have article names listed as (Team) all-time roster, others are list of (Team) players....should we standardize??????..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 13:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello; I have nominated the article Carolina Panthers, a top-importance article on this project, for featured article. If passed, this would be the first article on an NFL club to become a featured article. All editors of this project are invited to comment on the featured article candidacy. Toa Nidhiki05 19:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
John_Mangum_(American_football) - John Mangum - Richfife ( talk) 16:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
for example, William Powell was just cut by the Arizona Cardinals, in his career history, should we list their last year with the cardinals as 2012 or 2013? I believe the new league year starts in March at the start of free agency, so any player that is released from the team after that date, should they be considered on the team for the 2013 season? Edday1051 ( talk) 00:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
It strikes me that the articles on football rules and positions (and types of plays and so on) generally aren't very good. This seems like something worthy of trying to improve, but I'm finding it somewhat difficult to locate sources that discuss the history/evolution of rules and positions, which would be pretty essential to make these articles comprehensive. Anybody have ideas or tips on this? -- Batard0 ( talk) 16:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples can be found at WP:NCSP. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCSP. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
There is a bit of an edit war going on at Denard Robinson. IP's keep trying to change his position in the infobox to Offensive Weapon. This is the term that the team website uses to identify him, but it is obviously not suited for a Wikipedia infobox. It's too vague, many readers will not understand what it means, plus it is not used by NFL.com, ESPN, or Pro Football Reference. It should be changed back to running back/wide receiver/return specialist. ~ Richmond96 T • C 22:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
In May I posted here asking for help untangling the situation with the article currently titled NFLPA Game. The problem, as I explained then, is that the article has two separate games confused. Having discussed the issue on the article's Talk page with User:Arxiloxos and User:Dale_Arnett, I've developed separate drafts for a standalone article about each game. (Once that's done, NFLPA Game itself should either redirect to the game with current sponsorship, or disambig the two; after some consideration, I prefer the former option). My drafts for each are as follows:
As of two weeks ago, it seemed that we had arrived at consensus on the two replacement drafts, however since then Arxiloxos and Dale have either been away from Wikipedia or busy on other projects. I would move these live myself but for the fact that I am a consultant to the NFLPA and do not wish to run afoul of COI guidelines nor Jimbo's stated opinion that "paid advocates" should never edit articles directly. Would an editor here be willing to review the articles and take them live, if they agree they are in good shape to do so? Best, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 14:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Lee Bodden is not listed as one of the defensive backs for the Patriots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.42.219 ( talk) 08:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello again! The Carolina Panthers FAC has been up for well over a month now, and has received several reviews. Unfortunately, it has not received enough reviews - although consensus is leaning towards promotion, there is not enough reviews to do so. If you have time and are willing to do an impartial review of the article, please feel free to do so - for reference, no American football team article is a FA and this would be the first article to have achieved such status. Toa Nidhiki05 00:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
The article for Tim Jenkins needs to be cleaned up. I would do it, but this is not my specialty. I focus on taking players of pictures. And speaking of this, I bought a new camera because of all the new restrictions about bringing things into the stadiums. It has 30x zoom but I am not happy with it because we had our first home game last night and the pictures came out crummy. I used to bring in a Canon DSLR with a big lens. I think I will try to figure out a way to bring it back in. Any suggestions? Can anyone recommend a good camera that they will let me bring in that also has a good zoom for shooting moving players? Thanks, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 00:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC).
Hello NFL WikiProject, I know we don't do much organized collaboration here, unfortunately, but I did want to throw this out there as a way to get some articles to be useful for readers. Every 2013 season page has navboxes for all the games that, after they occur, need updating. While a bot would be the best way to do this admittedly tedious task, that would probably be too complex, though if someone wanted to try to figure out how, more power to them. Anyway, I thought maybe each week, some volunteers could do the boxes for a few teams, which would actually be double season pages, as you can simply copy over the information from one team's box to its opponent, with a few minor changes. These articles can really be useful for readers, but often they do not get updated in a timely fashion, if at all. If there is interest in this, let me know, and I can setup a "signup page" of sorts. Thanks! Go Phightins ! 01:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The page of Jaguars rookie safety Johnathan Cyprien was moved to John Cyprien a few weeks ago. Ever since he was drafted, I don't recall ever hearing him referred to as John. Isn't an article title supposed to reflect the person's most common name? ~ Richmond96 T • C 22:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I just created Namath: From Beaver Falls to Broadway, but I also noticed that some refs said Namath: Beaver Falls to Broadway, while others said the film title was just Namath. Which one should be the title then? Zappa O Mati 03:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
If a player is released prior to the 2013 regular season beginning, their infobox should read "20XX–2012", correct? Been seeing a lot lately that list "20XX–2013" for players who were cut over the weekend. ~ Richmond96 T • C 23:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Would anybody support the idea of only including the teams the players played in games for like the MLB ones do?-- Yankees10 01:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
No one is commenting at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randall Cunningham II. Since his father is a four-time Pro Bowl, I thought some people here might care to take a look.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I am relatively new to this WikiProject. There is a user, Frobishero, that is going around to a lot of different starting quarterbacks, particularly ones in the NFC and changing the format of the stats in the main infobox, like Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler for example. I have reverted him a few times. He claims to be starting a new standardization in the summary of his edits without even going to the talk page first and he is marking them all as minor. I am not sure how to handle this. Rlchambliss ( talk) 04:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Earlier today. an inexperienced user moved the AT&T Stadium article back to Cowboys Stadium, and attempted to post the resulting redirect on WP:RFD. There is now a discussion at Talk:Cowboys Stadium#Requested move to move the article back to AT&T Stadium (because a small edit history that now exists there due to the inexperienced user's edits). Feel free to join the discussion. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 05:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
The article about Pierre Thomas has recently undergone a large scale deletion of material copied from another website. While that removal was necessary, it leaves the article in pretty bad shape, especially for the biography of an important player who has been a significant part of a Super Bowl winning franchise. I will try to find some time to get into this later, but if anyone else would like to have a shot at bringing this up to standard, it's there for the taking. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 17:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello all, as I mentioned previously on this page, I'm currently working on behalf of the NFLPA, aiming to improve a number of football-related articles here on Wikipedia. I've recently written a new draft of the article for NFLPA president Domonique Foxworth, as it currently suffers from a number of issues, described at Talk:Domonique Foxworth. You can view my proposed draft in my userspace.
I've reached out to a couple of editors who'd previously indicated that they might be willing to help out here, but haven't heard back from either of them. I'm thus hoping that someone from here might be able to take a look and, if everything looks OK, move the article over into the mainspace, reenabling categories when they do. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 16:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Here's the discussion. Arbor to SJ ( talk) 04:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed recently because of recent edits made by User:757 Sports Historian that some team championship navboxes seem to be sorted by players' numbers, while others are sorted alphabetically. For example, the Template:1950 Cleveland Browns currently sorts players by number, while Template:1954 Cleveland Browns sorts them by name, which is reasonable enough given that there are no numbers in the latter template. It seems whichever way we go, we ought to have a consensus around which way we do it for the sake of consistency. I think the argument for sorting by jersey numbers is that it gives a semblance of order to what otherwise appear as a jumble of numbers in the navbox. The argument for sorting alphabetically, on the other hand, is that it makes it easier for readers to locate specific players by name in the navbox; it also would allow us to be consistent with navboxes where we don't have players' jersey numbers, for whatever reason. Anybody have views on this? I think it's fine either way, the important point being that the style is consistent across navboxes. -- Batard0 ( talk) 06:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I created the page Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history which as the title suggests, tells you the history of current head coaches Super Bowl history, wins and loses, at any coaching position or as a player. The page was accepted and is now an active article. I added some categories to it but I was wondering if there is anything else I can do to advertise this page or have the link put somewhere where people will know it exists. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Thanks. Zdawg1029 ( talk) 21:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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I am developing an idea of creating notability guideline about televised sports events in WP:Village pump (idea lab)#Notability (television). I could have some assistance if you are willing to help out. -- George Ho ( talk) 15:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
An SPA and an IP editor have added a wall of unsourced text (and a bunch of strange nonexistent categories) to this article, and have removed much of the pre-existing standard formatting in the process. I might be inclined to revert to the last normal-looking version [1] but the added material does seem to include some valid content that probably could be sourced, so I'd appreciate a look by some NFL-experienced editors to see if they think it's worth salvaging and improving. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 01:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi fellows! A user became in active and then this was started. This page was nominated by them and there is no one to fix the issues. I tried but I know nothing about the game and I m having trouble in dealing with it. I will not be able to do any more to it so can anyone from you please try to fix the problems. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks! →TSU tp* 14:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
I think that quarterbacks who at one point or another were the primary, first string, starting quarterback (not due to injury) should be in bold. The box makes it too hard for the reader to indentify which quarterbacks were truly the most important. There will always be gray area (Tom Owens and Norm Snead both started the same number of games in between John Brodie's retirement and the arrival of Jim Plunkett), but at least putting names in bold would make it easier to tell. --
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21:00, 11 July 2012 (UTC)The 49ers are relatively an easy one to do compared to other teams. Here are others; the early Broncos quarterbacks (prior to Morton) are very "iffy"-- it's almost as if they have 10 quarterbacks on their roster every year and they rolled dice to see which one would start:
This is all based off of information from
List of Denver Broncos starting quarterbacks and other corresponding articles. --
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This one uses these exact rules: Started more games than any other quarterback on the roster for two seasons or more, or started 13 games or more for at least one season and not due to injury:
I think if the need for specific rules is important, then these rules can be used. And yes, I realize that the other four infoboxes would have to be modified to qualify for said rules. --
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Why aren't there templates for career statistics tables for various positions? I haven't been able to find any. Has this been discussed?-- Batard0 ( talk) 12:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I just nominated the WP:WikiProject National Football League/Denver Broncos subproject for deletion. I was just informed to make you guys aware of this. Besides, the project rarely even took off. (Discussion here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Denver Broncos subproject) Zappa O Mati 16:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Could ya'll check out what I've done to expand it and possibly regrade it? And if you could help me get the years in the infobox to line up with the teams coached I would really appreciate it. Cra sh Underride 05:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
In player infoboxes, how does "Offseason and/or practice squad member only" apply to the preseason? For example, Lee Evans was released by the Jaguars following the first preseason game. Should he have an asterisk for 2012 or not? I would tend to think so seeing as that teams carry a 90-man roster in the preseason. ~ Richmond96 t • c 21:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I recently listed Tom Brady at WP:GAN. If you have any experience with reviewing Good Articles and would like to help out, please don't hesitate to make constructive comments. Achowat ( talk) 19:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi folks, quick question. In the infobox for a player who attended multiple colleges, are all colleges listed or just the last school attended? Russell Wilson played 3 years at NC State, graduated, then played his final eligibility year at Wisconsin. Should it be "Wisconsin, NC State", "NC State, Wisconsin", or just "Wisconsin"? Thanks. SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 11:08, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm getting a "forbidden" error when I click on the links in the Quality/Importance scale grid. It used to show a list of articles that met the chosen criteria (i.e. if you clicked on the number representing stub-class top-importance articles, it would give you a listing). It hasn't been working for a week or so. Anyone know what's up with it?-- Batard0 ( talk) 13:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
On August 28, the Bears redesigned their website, so now any sources from their website before the redesign now redirect to the home page. Because of this, much of the references on pages will need cleanup. Zappa O Mati 02:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Please feel free to read & comment here. Thank you. Marketdiamond ( talk) 18:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The following season pages are still using the {{<team> staff}} and {{<team> roster}} current roster templates:
They should be using {{ NFL final staff}} and {{ NFL final roster}} for the 2011 season instead. Hoof Hearted ( talk) 15:58, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
The redirect No Fun League, which currently points at the main National Football League article, has been nominated for deletion. At the discussion I have raised the possibility of adding a relevant sentence at List of NFL nicknames and retargetting the redirect there. This suggestion, and the discussion in general, would benefit from knowledgeable users such as yourselves. Please comment at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 September 23#No Fun League rather than here. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
I hate 'em too. But that's not a reason to list them by name when they are not notable, or public, people. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 06:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps the NFL WikiProject should make a determination on if the replacement refs are notable enough to merit having their own articles like the regular refs. Automatic Strikeout 03:24, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Could someone please manufacture for us an infobox for NFL referee/official articles? I was looking at Clete Blakeman's article just now, and I thought it could use an infobox just to summarise the content. – Pee Jay 19:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
I think that a worthy goal of the Wiki-Project would be adding "box scores" to the templates already on team's season pages. I have tried to do this for a few teams, but I obviously can't do it alone. I'd appreciate some help, maybe we could have users "adopt a division" or "adopt a few games a week" to monitor. Just a thought. Thanks-- Go Phightins! ( talk) 17:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Several hours ago, I was approached by Electriccatfish2 about creating a refs task force similar to baseball umps task force I helped start earlier this year. Go Phightins! and I have since started work on it, although there is still work to be done. I figured it would probably be a good idea to leave a note here for those who may be interested. Automatic Strikeout 03:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on the following discussion here: Talk:2012 Green Bay Packers–Seattle Seahawks game#Rename the article. Zappa O Mati 00:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
User:99.230.226.161 is going through NFL GM articles and adding win/loss tables like here for Thomas Dimitroff diff. I'm not very familiar with this project but this information does not appear to be necessary or even that relevant since the GM is not directly involved in the outcomes of games like coaches and players are. Is there any existing consensus for this issue or does anyone have any thoughts on the subject? SQGibbon ( talk) 04:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
per some discussion at
Template talk:Infobox NFL player, it was basically decided that listing |highlights=NA
or |highlights=None
or |highlights=No notable achievements
was a bit harsh. if there is nothing to report, than just don't report anything. in the spirit of this concept, I have created
Category:NFL player with NA highlights. you can remove a player from this category by simply removing the "none" or "N/A" from this field. while you are at it, you can remove any <nowiki></nowiki> anywhere in the infobox, since these are no longer necessary to get the bullet markup to work. this is especially helpful when there is nothing being passed to that parameter, since it tricks the template into thinking there is something there. examples of cleanup edits:
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[4]. if you find any N/A type entries in articles that are not in the tracking category, let me know so I can update the tracking code.
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Can I get a ruling on the use of "A. P." as a nickname for Adrian Peterson. Some anonymous editor came along a few days ago to remove it because Peterson himself decried the use of that nickname, but surely if people use that name for him, it's still a nickname? A third-party opinion would be very useful. – Pee Jay 09:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I agree with PeeJay. The fact is this, people DO call him A.P. Many, many thousands of people refer to him that way. I think Peterson is the one who is confused about the purpose of this. He says his "true" nickname is AD. Fine, that may be what his friends, loved ones, and teammates call him. But people in the media and in the general public are not his friends, loved ones, or teammates. Those people have another nickname for him, that being "A.P.". That being said, I don't know why his nickname would be used in his wikipedia page. 167.102.150.4 ( talk) 20:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
As the article provided states, people who call him AP have it twisted, some people think AP is his nickname, in reality it is AD. The people who call him AP have it confused or are lazy, that doesn't make it his nickname, that makes those people confused or lazy.
A persons initials hardly qualifies as a nickname anyway.
Fact is the man himself has said no, that isn't my nickname. Fact is he has explained where his actual nickname comes from, fact is he has expressed how those who call him AP have it wrong. Yet for whatever reason you want to continue to have these people persist in being wrong rather than accept and respect the players actual nickname and have people be given the correct information. I provided quotes from him to support my stance, all you have done is stomp around. Clearly you were amongst the "confused" crowd. I remember when his Wiki page did not have AP listed on it, unfortunately someone who has it "twisted" came along and changed that. Now it has been changed back to being correct again. You can see it was only a few months ago that someone even decided to add it on to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 10:18, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
"thousands of reliable sources can be found for the use of "AP" to mean "Adrian Peterson" wow are you serious lol?
If anything most people when seeing AP, Football fan or not, would think Associated Press when they read AP. But as AD himself said, it's easy for people to be lazy and say AP, when they don't understand what his nickname actually is. Furthermore, he didn't choose that nickname, it is what was given to him.
and yet, amazingly enough, a Google search of "What is Adrian Peterson's nickname" shows nothing on the first page of results suggesting that it's AP. Even Purple Jesus gets in on the first page, but no AP. Aside of course from some thread with someone asking whether his nickname is AD or AP and someone explaining to that person that it is actually AD.
and indeed the further through the Google results you go, the same trend continues. Most of the mentions of "AP" are people asking whether his nickname is AP or AD or people explaining that AP is wrong. Funny, with these supposed thousands of reliable sources, you'd think Google would be picking them up somewhere?
Fact is the people who think it is AP are simply confused and have it wrong. It's AD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk • contribs)
It's not really confirmation bias at all, you'd suspect that if it indeed was his nickname and used so often, then a search of "What is Adrian Peterson's nickname" would bring up some support for that. It doesn't. Quite the opposite in fact.
AP is used as a nickname only by confused people who don't realise his real nickname is actually AD. That doesn't make it his nickname, that makes those people confused. Why continue to promote that rather than aid those confused people? You talk about me using a confirmation bias, but talk about using a search with AP in it to support your stance lol? my, completely unbiased search, brings up no support for the suggestion that AP is one of his nicknames, only people dismissing it. Funny huh? Peterson himself says people who call him AP have his nickname confused, searches for what his nickname are offer basically no acknowledgement that AP is one of his nicknames beyond people dismissing it, but we have people who respond with biased searches and "but but but BUT PEOPLE CALL HIM IT!!!1". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 03:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Because people want to see these other confused people helped and given the correct information. What's with the personal attacks? try to maintain a level of civility. Some have it twisted and think it's AP instead of AD, those people need the correct information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.123.71 ( talk) 09:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure that some of you are aware of this project which I helped to start up a while back as a focused collaborative effort which highlights specific articles for improvement with one being chosen per week. One of my dreams for this project has been that it would lead to more focused offshoot "TAFI" projects that are a subproject/task force (or something similar) for some different WikiProjects. I would like to suggest creating such an offshoot for this WikiProject. I would be willing to handle the clerical aspects of it. Would there be any interest in this? Automatic Strikeout 20:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I have a non-urgent question regarding Pascal Matla. According to the article, he "attended training camp with the New Orleans Saints in the summer of 2006, but was released before the regular season began". Does that make him a Saints player? He's included in the category, but I have my doubts. 83.80.170.157 ( talk) 19:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi all. The U.S. Army has been undergoing a lot of programs with the NFL concerning traumatic brain injury of late, and so there are a lot of stories on their site of NFL officials and players at various PR events, which fall into public domain and which Wikipedia can use. I noticed a lot of images of players from the Seahawks and west coast teams without a lot of photos on their pages. Might be helpful if someone looked here through the photos to see what's useful to the project. — Ed! (talk) 15:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed the following on all of my Wiki NFL uniform templates:
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I have no issue converting my PNG pictures into vector graphics, but I need assistance on how to do so. What's the simplest product to achieve this? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. JohnnySeoul ( talk) 15:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Not completely sure what was going on, but looks like a significant problem. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 07:01, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
We may need plenty of eyes here on the page about the former Chiefs player who committed a murder-suicide. There's been a lot of activity on the article and may be a lot more, even though the page is protected. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 17:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
I left a note at Template talk:Footballstats about NFL.com links for older players not being supported.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Would someone with a bit better understanding of tables look at that article? It may be somewhat broken. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 23:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian ( talk) 02:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why the Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots (formerly a subproject of WP:NFL), San Francisco 49ers and St. Louis Rams all have separate WikiProjects devoted to them, while the Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Minnesota Vikings, New York Giants, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Redskins are all subprojects of WikiProject National Football League? Surely the former group should be converted to subprojects of WP:NFL? In fact, subproject is probably the wrong term; they should all be task forces. Can anyone enlighten me on this? – Pee Jay 11:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, there is a relatively new user who wants to add something Bill Walsh said about the Giants before Super Bowl XXV to that article. The user apparently is relying on memory, but I was wondering if anyone here can find a source that establishes that Walsh actually said what this user claims he said. I don't necessarily object to his proposal, as long as it gets sourced and edited to remove editorializing. Full discussion is at Talk:Super Bowl XXV. Thanks! — KuyaBriBri Talk 18:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
I ran across 2012 NFL quarterbacks win loss records today. First of all, kudos to Spparky for the time dedicated to this article. While the career all-time list may be notable per WP:LISTN (haven't looked for sources myself), it seems the 2012 specific information—if notable—belongs in 2012 NFL season or the individual team season articles. I'd suggest for next year that time alternatively be spent on line-graphs showing teams records over the weeks for the division title races in 2013 NFL season as opposed to a chart showing #1's for individual quarterbacks. My $.02.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
File:Ron East.JPG has been nominated for speedy deletion -- 76.65.128.43 ( talk) 07:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated American football, for good article status. Additionally, I have nominated List of NFL champions (1920-1969), a very important article to the NFL WikiProject, for featured list status. The latter would be an excellent compliment to the current FL List of Super Bowl champions. If any project members are interested in commenting on either, you are more than welcome to join in the discussion and help improve them even more. Thanks. Toa Nidhiki05 20:02, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Were any other WP:NFL editors aware of this TfD: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 October 30#Template:Infobox NFL coach? Why was no notice posted on this talk page? Why was no notice posted on the template page for Infobox NFL player? This appears to have been a major process error and failure to provide proper notice to WP:NFL. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 21:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
These are well-reasoned points. Just for reference, let's establish some basic facts and try to answer some questions:
Now, here are a couple of statements and questions meant to gauge where we stand on the infobox template issue, independent of the TfD question. They may not appear to be neutral, but I'm merely trying to establish a framework for discussion. I have no established opinion on the matter as yet. Please add statements to prompt further discussion. -- Batard0 ( talk) 09:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Statement 1 Setting aside all practical issues, the project's ultimate goal should be to merge all these templates into a single template (most likely Template:Infobox NFL player). This would allow for a focus on the development and improvement of a single infobox template instead of spreading ourselves thin on multiple templates that accomplish essentially the same task.
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Statement 2 Concerning the Template:Infobox NFL coach template, there are significant attributes that could be merged into the Template:Infobox NFL player, which the Template:Infobox NFL player template does not already cover in any fashion.
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Question 1 If these templates were to be merged (or if just one of them were to be merged into another), in what manner should that merger take place?
Question 2 Should the Template:Infobox NFL player be renamed?
Given that this thread has been open for over a week, I would like to move forward. If there are no objections, I plan to finish creating a merged version of the template in the sandbox. the plan is to create something which will result in (1) zero changes to the visual presentation in articles using template:infobox NFL player, (2) zero changes necessary to the articles using template:infobox NFL player, (3) minor changes (if any) to the visual presentation in articles using template:infobox NFL coach, and (4) minor changes (if any) to the articles using template:infobox NFL coach. both template:infobox NFL player and template:infobox NFL coach would be kept as redirects to the merged template, called template:infobox NFL biography. more redirects could be created if desired, of course. I will also expand the "testcases" page to show the various usage cases, showing that there is indeed "zero impact" on player articles. Frietjes ( talk) 21:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
When I was watching games this year, I kept noticing commercials of a partnership between the NFL and the USAA called "Salute to Service", which is intended to support our troops. Should a page on this partnership be created, or should we wait for the Salute to Service Award to be created, or not create it at all? [5] [6] [7] Zappa O Mati 02:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Gentlemen, Cuchullain and I have filed ANI reports regarding User:DragoLink08's continued disruptive editing and sock-puppetry. I have also requested appropriate range blocks for the University of South Florida IP addresses that have provided him with an escape hatch to continue his sock-puppetry for the past three years. Many of you have had to deal with Drago's disruptive editing of the color schemes for navboxes, infoboxes and tables. Your input at ANI is requested. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 10:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Appears to have 1993 SEASON/1994 Pro Bowl Rosters 67.198.82.87 ( talk) 14:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Template:NFL / NFC Champion coaches has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jrcla2 ( talk) 16:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I just saw that {{ Pro Bowl MVPs}} was created. This fails WP:NAVBOX on multiple points. One rarely would want to go from one Pro Bowl MVP to another, there is not even a standalone article for Pro Bowl MVP like Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award, and nobody would be adding see also's to the other MVPs just because the template did not exist. Guidelines aside, what reliable sources really writes about all Pro Bowl MVPs as a group? Pro Bowl MVP isnt even worthy to mention in the lead of any bio that would be an FA. If this isn't clutter, I dont know what is. Just look at Marshall Faulk as an example of navboxes gone amok. There is even clutter for the Pro Bowl starters for individual years in his articles, and there are all the ones at Category:National Football League Pro Bowl navigational boxes.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:05, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I recently created an RfC to determine the order of awards on National Football League Rookie of the Year Award. Please comment here if you'd like. Thank you! SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 19:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I noticed in my watchlist the past three days, three different professional athletes editing articles about themselves, two former American football players and one former baseball, mostly minor information and corrections, nothing extremely serious. Yes it's technically a WP:COI but I feel like they can become productive members of the community considering their first-hand expertise with the sport and the poor shape of many of our articles in this project. User talk:DMcClover58 is one example who I saw pop up on my watchlist. Yes, like every new editor they need to learn our policies and guidelines, especially with sourcing, but considering the drop of active editors especially with American sports, we should treat them with respect and help them when needed (instead of driving them away with a bunch of warning templates and reversions, which is one of the main cause of new editors not staying in Wikipedia). What do you guys think? Hardly in my history of the project I've seen professional athletes edit articles about themselves, so this is a unique scenario. Thanks Secret account 20:22, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Very small change needed. On the main graphic, the Oakland Raiders are marked as having won the Super Bowl in 2002, when they lost to Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers are correctly starred. Just need to remove the star for the Raiders.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_franchise_timeline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.86.246 ( talk) 19:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
The Carolina Panthers, a topic of significant importance as one of the newest members of the NFL, is up for good article. If you are interested in commenting on or reviewing the article, please feel free to do so. Toa Nidhiki05 02:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
There is a new article, Ideal team, that deals with virtual teams of top players like All-Pro. You are invited to discuss at Talk:Ideal team how best to handle this.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Since Category:Paul Brown coaching tree is of interest to this WikiProject, I am letting you know that its CfD can be found at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 February 7#Category:Paul Brown coaching tree. Thanks. Jrcla2 ( talk) 15:50, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I have proposed that World League of American Football be merged with NFL Europe. As both are under the scope of this WikiProject, any member of this project is invited to comment on the proposal at the NFL Europe talk page. Toa Nidhiki05 23:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
What's going on with the uniform images across the NFL? Lots of them were deleted and others were requested to be but declined. Now that User:JohnnySeoul is gone is there someone else that will be able to maintain and update these images? I could probably help out in some degree if I knew how. ~ Richmond96 T • C 01:24, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
The National Football League article is up for good article status. As a significant article in this WikiProject, any project members are invited to comment on or review the nomination. Toa Nidhiki05 01:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated 2001 NFL Draft for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Albacore ( talk) 17:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy message to inform the members of this project that I have nominated Portal:Sports for featured portal status. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Sports. The featured portal criteria are at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Please feel free to weigh in. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Every time there is unofficial news of a trade, signings, waiver, etc, editors rush to add it to an article as if it was official. I've created the essay Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions to capture how to handle this. It's easier to just drop this on a talk page/edit summary than having to explain this every time. Feel free to improve it.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
For the record, I assume there is consensus that players like Jeff Saturday that sign one-day contracts with their favorite team before retiring don't need their infobox updated for that 1-day stint.— Bagumba ( talk)
The description on Template:Infobox NFL player says "Schools names displayed should be consistent with how they are presented at NFL.com", which often uses abbreviations, such as "USC" for the University of Southern California, or "LSU" for Louisiana State University. In my opinion, we should avoid abbreviations to improve readability and to avoid ambiguity, unless the full name would be to long for the infobox (such as "University of California, Los Angeles" instead of "UCLA"). -- bender235 ( talk) 08:48, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
I've been editing player pages to reflect their free agency status since the start of free agency. I'm having trouble trying to figure out the best way to structure the lead sentence of the intro. I've been using example: "Justin Deaon Tryon (born May 29, 1984) is an American football cornerback who is currently a free agent in the National Football League." As I read it, it looks superfluous. I've seen different variations of it that omit "currently" and "National Football League". There is also Example: "Adrian Lemar Wilson[1] (born October 12, 1979) is an American football strong safety who last played for the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League (NFL)." I like this one, but I think the free agent status should be included. What is the standard way to write the lead sentence for free agents? I've also been deleting the uniform number which then only shows "Free Agent" at the top of the infobox. I think it just looks better aesthetically to leave out the number, with the exception of when a player recently signs with a team and has not been given a number yet. Edday1051 ( talk) 07:51, 14 March 2013 (UTC)Edday1051
Back at the end of November, User:Ijustreadbooks nominated Bert Bell at GAN. I reviewed it last week and placed the nomination on hold but it appears that they have been pretty much inactive since the start of February. Is anyone here willing to pick up and complete the review on their behalf? Thanks, Reso lute 20:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. The Rambling Man ( talk) 17:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the infobox high school field be formatted like "Name of high school (City, State)" i.e. "Mater Dei (Santa Ana, California)" for a player who went to Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, California. Format like "Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei" don't always reflect the school's actual formal name, as not all schools formally take the city name. And I think city should always be mentioned to be more explicit about where Palestine High School for instance is located; "Palestine (TX)" makes it ambiguous to the casual reader who may not realize there's a city named such in the state. Arbor to SJ ( talk) 02:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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Please be aware of this discussion at MOS: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Years; reverts. This discussion grew out of a feature article review for an NBA basketball player Juwan Howard. Before jumping into the discussion, I suggest that you read the relevant MOS section, MOS:YEAR. As I'm sure you can see, this has the potential to significantly change the currently used year span conventions in the NFL player infoboxes. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 05:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Anyone interested in creating a navbox for NFLPA presidents? Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 19:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Was Drew Brees born in Dallas or Austin? The sources disagree. Our usual authorities for this kind of information, his page at NFL.com [8] and his official bio at the Saints website [9], both say that he was born in Austin. His foundation's official bio page calls him "A native of Austin, TX". [10] But a number of other reliable sources quote Brees as saying that he was born in Dallas and moved to Austin at age 7. [11] An editor has now supplied a link to an NFL Films program about Troy Aikman, in which Brees (the narrator) clearly says just that: he was born in Dallas, moved to Austin at 7. [12] How to handle? Comments are solicited at Talk:Drew Brees#Place of Birth. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 00:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, everyone. Another editor and I are having a discussion on how the controversial final play should be described. All comments would be appreciated! Mbinebri talk ← 05:08, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The featured list nomination for List of NFL tied games has stalled, greatly hindering chances of it passing. Any and all input from project members at the FLN is welcome, so as to help get discussion and ultimately pass it as a featured list. Toa Nidhiki05 19:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Question: E. J. Manuel or EJ Manuel?
Per WP:INITS, we actually seperate initials with a full stop and a non-breaking space (i.e., "E. J."). Yet, apparently, EJ Manuel himself "uses" his initials w/out the full stop (i.e., "EJ"). What should Wikipedia do? -- bender235 ( talk) 14:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I have reviewed the article 1920 Rock Island Independents season which was nominated as a Good Article candidate back in December 2012. I conducted the review in mid-March, and Michael Jester ( talk · contribs) (who nominated the article) made a good start in addressing most of the comments I'd made. It seems that Michael has not been online since April 1, and there are still a few comments outstanding in the review. The review can be seen here. The main outstanding comments are generally regarding broadness, and I'm hoping that a member of this project may be able to address them without trouble. If anyone wants to pick up the article, it would be great. It's close to passing. Hope someone can help. Thanks. - Shudde talk 10:53, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
How should college names be listed in infoboxes in biographies for athletes associated with college athletics? Options include:
Feel free to add any missing options for discussion.— Bagumba ( talk) 17:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Am I the only person watching Tai Streets? His page was blanked for over 24 hours.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:52, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I don't know if anyone is watching this page, but I've made a proposal recently on an article listed as being "Top-importance" to this wikiproject: John Mackey (American football). The article contains false information, and I'm interested in finding another editor to review my suggestion ( see here) and make the change if you agree. The reason I ask in the first place: this request is made on behalf of the NFLPA, with whom I am working, so in the interests of following COI rules I'm avoiding direct article edits. Happy to answer any questions if need be. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 18:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
When the Jaguars unveil their new uniforms on Tuesday, and other teams around the league eventually do the same, do we have anyone who will be able to update the uniform images now that Johnny Seoul is gone? ~ Richmond96 T • C 23:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
file:Oorang.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 ( talk) 03:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to screw anything up, so can someone change the Jaguars primary color to black and the secondary color to gold (#d3a205) in order to reflect the changes in the team and player infoboxes? ~ Richmond96 T • C 03:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
When do you add a player to the active roster templates? After they are drafted? After minicamp? After they sign?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
There is now an WP:IRC channel for collaboration between editors in various sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Thanks Secret account 03:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm hoping an editor here can review an update I recently proposed for the Domonique Foxworth article. My request is on behalf of the NFLPA, like with the John Mackey article upthread, and I am avoiding direct edits due to my financial COI. (In the past I edited NFL-related articles for fun, but I'm refraining from that for now.) My request here is fairly simple. Though Foxworth is the current president of the NFLPA, his article currently implies that he is a former president. I would like to clarify this and add in a short section on his work with the NFLPA. If you are interested in helping with this, the full request is on the article's Talk page. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 22:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Any editor familiar with handling stadium article titles following a naming rights sale is welcome to provide input at Talk:Cleveland Browns Stadium#Requested move 2. Any editor unfamiliar with this type of situation is welcome, too. Thanks. Levdr1lostpassword / talk 06:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
An editor or editors using the IP addresses 74.79.23.210 and 96.47.126.196 have been changing player positions without sources, usually going against the positions listed on NFL.com and/or the team websites. May be a careless error or a WP:SOCK trying to vandalize pages, not sure. But I do think it is the same editor, the edits are too similar and at different times. Just wanted to bring this to your attention. Luchuslu ( talk) 16:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Do we only use official team or nfl.com profiles for height/weight, or can we use other sources? Russell Wilson just said in an official press conference that he now weighs 214 lbs, even though his official profiles list him as 206 lbs. SGMD1 Talk/ Contribs 12:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I brought this up on the 2014 Draft talk page and I don't think anyone saw it— does anyone know why all the recent draft articles have a separate reference group for trades? I don't see any benefit to splitting up the references: you can always just click the number to find the one you're looking for. It makes the prose look really cluttery to have links that say "source 1" and "source 2" instead of just the numbers. – Thatotherperson ( talk/ contribs) 02:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
I've mentioned here previously that I'm working with the NFLPA to improve some articles on Wikipedia, and because of my financial COI, I'm asking volunteer editors to help with these improvements.
Most recently, I've proposed some updates and changes in wording for 2012 NFL referee lockout on the article's Talk page. One small change was made from it, but it doesn't look like anyone has yet considered the other suggestions. Would anyone else here mind taking a look? I'm happy to answer any questions over there. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 20:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello again, I'm hoping to get an editor or two to take a look at some additional suggestions that I recently posted on the Talk page for the 2012 NFL referee lockout article. Since I have a financial COI with regard to the article, as I'm currently working with the NFLPA, I'd appreciate it if someone here has a moment to pop over to take a look and, if appropriate, move the changes over into the article. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 15:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I have nominated the article 2,000-yard club for featured list status. There has no been much input, however, and it would be much appreciated if members of this WikiProject could provide sound and objective comments and analysis on whether the article meets the featured list criteria. Thanks! Toa Nidhiki05 21:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I've previously made a few requests here asking for volunteer editor assistance on articles related to the NFLPA, as I've been working on their behalf to help update articles of interest (by proposing changes, not by direct editing, I hasten to note).
The NFLPA has now asked me to take a look at the article titled NFLPA Game, and boy, it's quite a mess. The article seems to be covering three different games, but treating them all as if they were the same thing. The issues with the article have actually been raised previously on Talk:NFLPA Game, but it doesn't look like any kind of conclusion was reached.
Based on the research I've done, and input from the NFLPA themselves about the situation, here's what seems to have happened around the idea of an "NFLPA Game" (note that the following leans heavily on primary sources; although I'm well aware that press releases are not the most desirous sources, they are currently among the most complete):
It seems like untangling this, and deciding what to do about creating new articles, setting up redirects, etc., is going to be a bit complicated. Rather than just propose a solution to this, I'd like to get people's input and build consensus about how best to handle this situation.
So, what do people think? What's the best way to deal this mess? Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 15:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
National Football League is up for GA review. It looks close to passing once some small fixes are made, but before I sign off, I wanted to solicit opinions about whether the article sufficiently covers the "main aspects" of its topic. Is there anything you feel needs to be added? Comments welcome at Talk:National Football League/GA2 under the "Outside Comments" section. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 13:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Gcveintee ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Gcveintee has been changing/adding numbers for NFL players for months now, with incorrectly formatted refs. He hit an article on my watchlist so I verified his changes. They were incorrect. I spot checked four random edits - all incorrect.
Given that these were the first four edits I spot checked, it's a good bet most of edits are wrong. -- NeilN talk to me 13:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a heads up, User:Dicklyon has recently been moving every NBA Draft article from (example) "2013 NBA Draft" to "2013 NBA draft" citing MOS capitalization norms. Not sure if anyone wants discussion of this before he continues to move NFL Draft pages (he has already started) but if you don't agree you may want to address it now. If you all agree with the moves, then obviously no issue. Rikster2 ( talk) 02:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Thought I would get some feedback from you all regarding the list of Pats players article. I feel the article (as are many NFL Football teams player rosters) is unworkable now. If all past players are added, then all the awards info will make the article way too long. I thought I would keep it simple and sortable. Example is found below. Thoughts????
Also, sports teams have article names listed as (Team) all-time roster, others are list of (Team) players....should we standardize??????..... Pvmoutside ( talk) 13:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello; I have nominated the article Carolina Panthers, a top-importance article on this project, for featured article. If passed, this would be the first article on an NFL club to become a featured article. All editors of this project are invited to comment on the featured article candidacy. Toa Nidhiki05 19:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
John_Mangum_(American_football) - John Mangum - Richfife ( talk) 16:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
for example, William Powell was just cut by the Arizona Cardinals, in his career history, should we list their last year with the cardinals as 2012 or 2013? I believe the new league year starts in March at the start of free agency, so any player that is released from the team after that date, should they be considered on the team for the 2013 season? Edday1051 ( talk) 00:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
It strikes me that the articles on football rules and positions (and types of plays and so on) generally aren't very good. This seems like something worthy of trying to improve, but I'm finding it somewhat difficult to locate sources that discuss the history/evolution of rules and positions, which would be pretty essential to make these articles comprehensive. Anybody have ideas or tips on this? -- Batard0 ( talk) 16:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples can be found at WP:NCSP. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCSP. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
There is a bit of an edit war going on at Denard Robinson. IP's keep trying to change his position in the infobox to Offensive Weapon. This is the term that the team website uses to identify him, but it is obviously not suited for a Wikipedia infobox. It's too vague, many readers will not understand what it means, plus it is not used by NFL.com, ESPN, or Pro Football Reference. It should be changed back to running back/wide receiver/return specialist. ~ Richmond96 T • C 22:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
In May I posted here asking for help untangling the situation with the article currently titled NFLPA Game. The problem, as I explained then, is that the article has two separate games confused. Having discussed the issue on the article's Talk page with User:Arxiloxos and User:Dale_Arnett, I've developed separate drafts for a standalone article about each game. (Once that's done, NFLPA Game itself should either redirect to the game with current sponsorship, or disambig the two; after some consideration, I prefer the former option). My drafts for each are as follows:
As of two weeks ago, it seemed that we had arrived at consensus on the two replacement drafts, however since then Arxiloxos and Dale have either been away from Wikipedia or busy on other projects. I would move these live myself but for the fact that I am a consultant to the NFLPA and do not wish to run afoul of COI guidelines nor Jimbo's stated opinion that "paid advocates" should never edit articles directly. Would an editor here be willing to review the articles and take them live, if they agree they are in good shape to do so? Best, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 14:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Lee Bodden is not listed as one of the defensive backs for the Patriots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.42.219 ( talk) 08:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello again! The Carolina Panthers FAC has been up for well over a month now, and has received several reviews. Unfortunately, it has not received enough reviews - although consensus is leaning towards promotion, there is not enough reviews to do so. If you have time and are willing to do an impartial review of the article, please feel free to do so - for reference, no American football team article is a FA and this would be the first article to have achieved such status. Toa Nidhiki05 00:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
The article for Tim Jenkins needs to be cleaned up. I would do it, but this is not my specialty. I focus on taking players of pictures. And speaking of this, I bought a new camera because of all the new restrictions about bringing things into the stadiums. It has 30x zoom but I am not happy with it because we had our first home game last night and the pictures came out crummy. I used to bring in a Canon DSLR with a big lens. I think I will try to figure out a way to bring it back in. Any suggestions? Can anyone recommend a good camera that they will let me bring in that also has a good zoom for shooting moving players? Thanks, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 00:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC).
Hello NFL WikiProject, I know we don't do much organized collaboration here, unfortunately, but I did want to throw this out there as a way to get some articles to be useful for readers. Every 2013 season page has navboxes for all the games that, after they occur, need updating. While a bot would be the best way to do this admittedly tedious task, that would probably be too complex, though if someone wanted to try to figure out how, more power to them. Anyway, I thought maybe each week, some volunteers could do the boxes for a few teams, which would actually be double season pages, as you can simply copy over the information from one team's box to its opponent, with a few minor changes. These articles can really be useful for readers, but often they do not get updated in a timely fashion, if at all. If there is interest in this, let me know, and I can setup a "signup page" of sorts. Thanks! Go Phightins ! 01:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The page of Jaguars rookie safety Johnathan Cyprien was moved to John Cyprien a few weeks ago. Ever since he was drafted, I don't recall ever hearing him referred to as John. Isn't an article title supposed to reflect the person's most common name? ~ Richmond96 T • C 22:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I just created Namath: From Beaver Falls to Broadway, but I also noticed that some refs said Namath: Beaver Falls to Broadway, while others said the film title was just Namath. Which one should be the title then? Zappa O Mati 03:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
If a player is released prior to the 2013 regular season beginning, their infobox should read "20XX–2012", correct? Been seeing a lot lately that list "20XX–2013" for players who were cut over the weekend. ~ Richmond96 T • C 23:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Would anybody support the idea of only including the teams the players played in games for like the MLB ones do?-- Yankees10 01:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
No one is commenting at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randall Cunningham II. Since his father is a four-time Pro Bowl, I thought some people here might care to take a look.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:30, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I am relatively new to this WikiProject. There is a user, Frobishero, that is going around to a lot of different starting quarterbacks, particularly ones in the NFC and changing the format of the stats in the main infobox, like Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler for example. I have reverted him a few times. He claims to be starting a new standardization in the summary of his edits without even going to the talk page first and he is marking them all as minor. I am not sure how to handle this. Rlchambliss ( talk) 04:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Earlier today. an inexperienced user moved the AT&T Stadium article back to Cowboys Stadium, and attempted to post the resulting redirect on WP:RFD. There is now a discussion at Talk:Cowboys Stadium#Requested move to move the article back to AT&T Stadium (because a small edit history that now exists there due to the inexperienced user's edits). Feel free to join the discussion. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 05:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
The article about Pierre Thomas has recently undergone a large scale deletion of material copied from another website. While that removal was necessary, it leaves the article in pretty bad shape, especially for the biography of an important player who has been a significant part of a Super Bowl winning franchise. I will try to find some time to get into this later, but if anyone else would like to have a shot at bringing this up to standard, it's there for the taking. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 17:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello all, as I mentioned previously on this page, I'm currently working on behalf of the NFLPA, aiming to improve a number of football-related articles here on Wikipedia. I've recently written a new draft of the article for NFLPA president Domonique Foxworth, as it currently suffers from a number of issues, described at Talk:Domonique Foxworth. You can view my proposed draft in my userspace.
I've reached out to a couple of editors who'd previously indicated that they might be willing to help out here, but haven't heard back from either of them. I'm thus hoping that someone from here might be able to take a look and, if everything looks OK, move the article over into the mainspace, reenabling categories when they do. Cheers, WWB Too ( Talk · COI) 16:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Here's the discussion. Arbor to SJ ( talk) 04:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed recently because of recent edits made by User:757 Sports Historian that some team championship navboxes seem to be sorted by players' numbers, while others are sorted alphabetically. For example, the Template:1950 Cleveland Browns currently sorts players by number, while Template:1954 Cleveland Browns sorts them by name, which is reasonable enough given that there are no numbers in the latter template. It seems whichever way we go, we ought to have a consensus around which way we do it for the sake of consistency. I think the argument for sorting by jersey numbers is that it gives a semblance of order to what otherwise appear as a jumble of numbers in the navbox. The argument for sorting alphabetically, on the other hand, is that it makes it easier for readers to locate specific players by name in the navbox; it also would allow us to be consistent with navboxes where we don't have players' jersey numbers, for whatever reason. Anybody have views on this? I think it's fine either way, the important point being that the style is consistent across navboxes. -- Batard0 ( talk) 06:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I created the page Active NFL head coach career Super Bowl history which as the title suggests, tells you the history of current head coaches Super Bowl history, wins and loses, at any coaching position or as a player. The page was accepted and is now an active article. I added some categories to it but I was wondering if there is anything else I can do to advertise this page or have the link put somewhere where people will know it exists. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Thanks. Zdawg1029 ( talk) 21:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)