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When a band has a "List of X band members" subpage (see this discussion), should the timeline go on the band's main article, the members subpage, or both? - RfC relisted by Cunard ( talk) at 00:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC). - FlightTime ( open channel) 14:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Apologies if this causes any mass confusion – I've just moved the RfC here from Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards, as I figured that this would be a more appropriate location to discuss music-related standards. 4TheWynne (talk) (contribs) 14:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Matt Stahl was created in August 2017, but it's currently nothing but a few sentences with citation to IMDb and All Music. The subject's listed as a TV producer/musician, but I'm wondering if anything he's done would help him pass WP:BIO or even WP:MUSICBIO? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:14, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Was wondering if Gawker was a reliable source. TheRealBoognish ( talk) 21:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Lady Gaga. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 00:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Please could a subject expert take a look at Philip Sheppard (musician)? It's essentially two versions of the same article, and I lack the topic knowledge to merge them properly. Thanks, Certes ( talk) 16:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
The band has been reduced to a duo, and they are going by "FF5", and so there is a discussion at Talk:Family Force 5#Requested move 2 March 2018 as to whether to move the article to FF5 (duo) or leave it. Other options could be suggested. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 02:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
A move request regarding Deadline.com / Deadline Hollywood, a website often cited by this Project, is taking place at Talk:Deadline Hollywood#Requested move 11 March 2018. It is scheduled to end in seven days.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:32, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
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I brought up in a previous discussion that I would probably do this down the track – and pretty much made most of my argument there – so I figured there's no better time than the present. I've seen bands that have had large numbers of line-up changes (e.g. Anthrax, Black Sabbath, Megadeth) and have their own members subpages – this is where I believe it is most appropriate to have them. Others have only had minimal changes or disruptions to their respective line-ups (e.g. Foo Fighters, Linkin Park, Pearl Jam), yet still have these subpages where they, in my opinion, aren't necessary.
I will restate my opinion (from the above discussion) that members subpages should only exist if there have been a large number of line-up changes and/or complex circumstances – does anyone agree with this statement? Please answer "Yes" or "No" in the survey below and, if agreed upon, use the discussion to discuss what number of line-up changes should constitute a members subpage – otherwise, feel free to state your opinion in either section. I would define "large number of line-up changes and/or complex circumstances" as about ten or more former members and/or line-up changes (criteria met by the first three bands that I mentioned, and not by the second three). 4TheWynne (talk) (contribs) 04:47, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Seems like an appropriate cutoff point as band lineups can often change over time (particularly touring members who don't record with them), and limiting how many warrant their own pages helps avoid being overly repetitive with listing content. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 04:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't see an arbitrary number is necessary. If the band article is being over-inflated by the member's section, and this relies on common sense, then a separate article could be created. A well-written article on the changes in membership is valuable and informative. That means that if the content is unsourced, remove it. If it's simply based on who played on an album, or there are large tables to represent that, remove it. If there's nothing of encyclopedic value, remove it. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information nor is it a fansite or a repository of info. This information can be created on a fan site somewhere. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 20:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I made a new article called Proper Einstein (musician), and I was wondering if someone could review it for me. There was a "refimprove" tag placed on it but I went back and made the necessary changes. If you can point me in the right direction, it would be great and also encourage me to create even more. Thanks. The Newbie06 ( talk) 22:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC) The Newbie06 ( talk) 22:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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What musician articles should have discographies (or separate discography articles)? And what form should they take? Is there any guidance on this?
We're having a discussion at Fraser T. Smith on the question. Further input would be welcome. You can see my position there with respect to that case. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Why are the Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines only an essay? Does anyone have any objections to changing it to an actual guideline? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 00:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to notify some other WikiProjects of this - a few of the experienced editors and admin of WikiProject Video Games have set up a Wikipedia specific Discord (software) chat up for Wikipedia. Our little sub-community has enjoyed using it to talk about things more tangentially related to direct Wikipedia editing, so we thought we'd spread the word to some other areas and see if they had any interest. Figured I'd start here since music is my other main area of contributions.
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I've been editing St. Chika that was created and apparently owned by another editor. Could a project member or two please take a look to confirm the content? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:04, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Charles Neville died today; sole one of The Neville Brothers without an article
See Talk page on above article. Currently Charles Neville (musician) simply redirects to The Neville Brothers. All the other Neville Brothers -- Aaron, Art, Cyril, and Ivan - have excellent articles; Charles, the horn player as Aaron called him today in a moving post, has not even a stub.
See Neville Brothers infobox as well as Category:The Neville Brothers members for links to 4 good articles to be mined for sources and used as models.
Hope this is done before closing day of Jazz Fest, which the brothers traditionally closed down with a huge show every year. Thank you! -- Paulscrawl ( talk) 02:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Per advice at the Teahouse, I'm adding a link here for any competent music / biography editors to dive in:
Peace -- Paulscrawl ( talk) 04:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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There are a lot of photographs from The Queen's Birthday Party here. All are of suitable license and very high quality. They might be useful in biographies, especially of the lesser known musicians. Sadly, I can only identify the most famous. Surtsicna ( talk) 16:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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Whether or not MusicBrainz authority file numbers should be included in {{ authority control}} is currently discussed at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#MusicBrainz. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please contribute to the discussion at Talk:Mary Hopkin#Mary Hopkin in the Land of..., which concerns whether a detailed list of TV shows should be included in the article about the singer. Verbcatcher ( talk) 19:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Another editor has created Draft:Anna Neale. While based in England, she has performed several times in Canada, as confirmed by articles in reliable sources. I would appreciate it if other editors could look at the draft. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 06:04, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Participation needed at Talk:Sasha_(Welsh_DJ)#Requested_move_5_July_2018. The editor whose username is Z0 13:34, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing that we make an official change to the article guidelines regarding how non-album singles are displayed in discography tables; they are used on musicians' pages when their discography is too small for a separate list. (I will be contacting WP Discographies as well, and, if necessary, moving this proposal there.) Non-album singles are either singles that were intended for an album and were later cancelled/removed from the album, or just released by themselves.
This sprouted from a conflict that VanWinkle92, Walter Görlitz and I were having on NF (rapper). What I would like to change is what we should do when listing them, because as Walter pointed out, there is no guideline on how to typeset it. There is a {{non-album single}} template available for use to emphasize that singles were not on an album, and combing through various featured-list discographies, I see that the form in which they're displayed varies wildly. Some use it, such as Tinashe, The Strokes, Sugababes, Garbage, and Evanescence (though I admit the latter is my own FL, I believe that template was there before I started editing it). Then again, there are some (which are usually older FLs and less popular groups) which don't use this, such as Deftones. Curiously, the example given in the template documentation doesn't even use it.
All I'm looking for is consistency. I support using the template because certainly it must exist for a reason. I'd still be happy if it's decided that we don't use it (I'll start a deletion discussion of it should that be the case). dannymusiceditor oops 21:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
I apologize if the members of this WikiProject were already alerted somehow, but if not, I have proposed the creation of WikiProject/They Might Be Giants~ Yogibeera ( talk) 13:05, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
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New article which needs to be assessed. Not sure if the subject meets WP:BIO or even WP:MUSICBIO. Fair amount of sources cited, but many are just listings so maybe this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. There might also be some COI editing involved. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 21:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#RFC: Regarding genre listings in infobox for music band. Specifically; whether or not to include rock and roll to the list of genres in the infobox for the Led Zeppelin article. Thank you - wolf 08:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians - If an editor has time, kindly examine the article on the noted conductor and composer
Samuel Adler (composer). A request for an "Info Box - person" has been processed and included on the article but appears to be subject to continuous deletion (perhaps because Adler is still alive?) Kindly consider using the "Info Box academic" template {{
Infobox academic}}
to rectify this problem as suggested here
Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Composers, or perhaps assigning an "Infobox -Person" from the WikiProject Musicians Project since Adler was also an active conductor who founded the historic
Seventh Army Symphony Orchestra and was awarded the U. S. Army's highest
Medal of Honor for services to Music, published several academic books on Orchestra, and Choral conducting, was a member of the faculty at several leading music conservatories including the
Eastman School of Music and the
Juilliard School for over 60 years, and was recognized by his academic peers by receiving several Honorary Doctorate of Music degrees as well as membership in
Sigma Alpha Iota and
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Many thanks for your thoughtful consideration and assistance along with my best wishes for your continued success on Wikipedia. With warmest regards
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I came across a case of where the age of a living musician is conflicting. An article from Rolling Stone claims the musician in question ( Adonis) was 19 when he recorded "No Way Back", however, going by his birth date sourced from Encyclopedia of Popular Music (article cites All Music Guide to Electronica for the date, which I don't have access to, but it's the same date), he would've been around 22-23.
There's an comment about the date of birth being incorrect on the talk page for the article. However, at the time of the comments being added, there wasn't a birth date on the article ( old revision).
How should this be handled? Both sources are surely credible, but RS doesn't give an alternate date of birth. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 21:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Buddy Williams (country musician)#RfC on discography format. Thanks! – Reidgreg ( talk) 13:23, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
The RfC could use some additional input! – Reidgreg ( talk) 17:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Talk:Ice Creamusume#Merger discussion to merge Wu Si-hsuan, Chung An-chi, Tseng Te-ping, Chao Kuo-jung, Chiu Tsui-ling, Ku Yun, and 1st Zui Bang! to Ice Creamusume. These people do not have any notability beyond being in Ice Creamusume and do not need to have their own article in my opinion. 1st Zui Bang! also holds no notability with no sales and ranking information. Any input on whether the articles should be merged is appreciated! lullabying ( talk) 21:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Ss112 ( talk · contribs) has reverted my change of singer and songwriter to singer-songwriter in a few articles where I made the change earlier. There have been two discussions about this, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Archive 8#Singer-songwriter vs Singer and songwriter, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Archive 7#Does being a singer and songwriter equate to being a singer-songwriter and an RfC, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Archive 36#RfC: How should music BLPs approach the term "singer-songwriter"? the summary was "to follow the definition of singer-songwriter in the reliable sources available. It is also useful to remember the distinction between singer-songwriter and singer and songwriter." Since no sources were provided, I reverted. Has this agreement changed? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 03:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Please note that there is a new music list, see List of music museums. Please give your opinion too whether this list has been referenced enough. See the talk page for that. Ymnes ( talk) 16:46, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Two question about an upcoming "reunion". Anberlin tweeted that they will play a show December 14, 2018. The questions are:
I'm not sure if this is clear-cut. I did struggle with reverting the anon's edit made at 00:10:16 (UTC). Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
The documentation for the "origin" field of the musical artist infobox seems a little bit unclear when the infobox is about a specific stage-name. It says "where individual performer started their career" -- should that be where the person lived when they started performing music in general, or where they lived when they started using that stage name?
Bsammon ( talk) 03:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia editors: Perhaps if you have some extra time you might assess Alfredo Antonini. It was last assessed in 2008 as a Start-Class article and has been improved to include sections for Discography, Filmography, Awards and External links as well as enhancements to the biographical information and links to orchestra musicians and numerous operatic soloists who collaborated with him. Perhaps an upgrade in the assessment could be considered. Thanks in advance for your outstanding editorial assistance and best wishes for your continued success on Wikipedia! As always- with warmest regards 104.207.219.150 ( talk) 00:24, 25 October 2018 (UTC)PS
Chris Field (composer), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Richard3120 ( talk) 15:24, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
I've seen Billboard and other music publications indicate that a single will "impact" on radio on some date (rather than be released to radio), and hip-hop and urban contemporary artists tend to have albums "drop" (rather than have them released). I understand what they mean, but should we avoid this sort of language when writing articles? Should we use more standard prose, such as what I mentioned in parenthesis. I had one editor revert to "will impact", so it's not just an academic question. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:43, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
I have nominated Connie Talbot, an article in the scope of this project, for featured article review. Feel free to contribute at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Connie Talbot/archive1. Josh Milburn ( talk) 14:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone could take a look at this and assess it for Wikipedia notability. Article was created a few weeks back, but wasn't submitted to AfC. Article states Karlsson helped produce and write Runaway (U & I) which might be enough per WP:MUSICBIO, but I'm not sure if that also applies producers and writers of a hit song. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 07:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this article and assess it per WP:BAND. The article has been around for awhile and there appears to have been some COI editing to it over the years. There's quite a number of sources being cited, but many appear to be WP:PRIMARY or otherwise trivial types of mentions, while most of the albums appear to be self-published. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 06:13, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Some help is needed here. There are about 170 band articles that aren't listed on the relevant disambiguation page, for example the article is "Foo (band)" but the disambiguation page at "Foo" doesn't have an entry for it. All that needs to be done in most cases is to simply add the missing entry to the dab page. Sometimes, however, the fact that an article isn't linked from there might indicate that it hasn't received enough attention: it might not be notable, or it might be undercurated. If you take care of any of these, please strike it through from the list below (or add {{ done}}).
The list contains about half of the articles. If there's interest, I'll post the remainder. Thanks in advance! – Uanfala (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
There is an RFC at Talk:Stéphane_Grappelli#RFC:_Gay regarding whether or not the article should state that the subject was gay. Please provide your perspective! – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 04:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
The article Quinnes Parker has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. The nominator also raised the following concern:
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
I posted this at DGG's talk page and welcome comment here:
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 05:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello fellow Wikipedians - Whenever an Editor has some extra time he or she might take a look at the article about Howard Hanson - the noted American composer and director at the Eastman School of Music. The article was recently upgraded to a B Class and might be enhanced by including an "Infobox person" since it is supported by the Wikiproject Biographies/Musicians. Many thanks in advance for your consideration and assistance 72.69.152.90 ( talk) 00:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)JJ
Hello. I am here to inform this WikiProject about the RfD of Throttle (musician) listed here. Any contribution to the discussion is appreciated. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 02:57, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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When a band has a "List of X band members" subpage (see this discussion), should the timeline go on the band's main article, the members subpage, or both? - RfC relisted by Cunard ( talk) at 00:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC). - FlightTime ( open channel) 14:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Apologies if this causes any mass confusion – I've just moved the RfC here from Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards, as I figured that this would be a more appropriate location to discuss music-related standards. 4TheWynne (talk) (contribs) 14:21, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Matt Stahl was created in August 2017, but it's currently nothing but a few sentences with citation to IMDb and All Music. The subject's listed as a TV producer/musician, but I'm wondering if anything he's done would help him pass WP:BIO or even WP:MUSICBIO? -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:14, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Was wondering if Gawker was a reliable source. TheRealBoognish ( talk) 21:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Lady Gaga. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 00:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Please could a subject expert take a look at Philip Sheppard (musician)? It's essentially two versions of the same article, and I lack the topic knowledge to merge them properly. Thanks, Certes ( talk) 16:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
The band has been reduced to a duo, and they are going by "FF5", and so there is a discussion at Talk:Family Force 5#Requested move 2 March 2018 as to whether to move the article to FF5 (duo) or leave it. Other options could be suggested. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 02:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
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I brought up in a previous discussion that I would probably do this down the track – and pretty much made most of my argument there – so I figured there's no better time than the present. I've seen bands that have had large numbers of line-up changes (e.g. Anthrax, Black Sabbath, Megadeth) and have their own members subpages – this is where I believe it is most appropriate to have them. Others have only had minimal changes or disruptions to their respective line-ups (e.g. Foo Fighters, Linkin Park, Pearl Jam), yet still have these subpages where they, in my opinion, aren't necessary.
I will restate my opinion (from the above discussion) that members subpages should only exist if there have been a large number of line-up changes and/or complex circumstances – does anyone agree with this statement? Please answer "Yes" or "No" in the survey below and, if agreed upon, use the discussion to discuss what number of line-up changes should constitute a members subpage – otherwise, feel free to state your opinion in either section. I would define "large number of line-up changes and/or complex circumstances" as about ten or more former members and/or line-up changes (criteria met by the first three bands that I mentioned, and not by the second three). 4TheWynne (talk) (contribs) 04:47, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Seems like an appropriate cutoff point as band lineups can often change over time (particularly touring members who don't record with them), and limiting how many warrant their own pages helps avoid being overly repetitive with listing content. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 04:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't see an arbitrary number is necessary. If the band article is being over-inflated by the member's section, and this relies on common sense, then a separate article could be created. A well-written article on the changes in membership is valuable and informative. That means that if the content is unsourced, remove it. If it's simply based on who played on an album, or there are large tables to represent that, remove it. If there's nothing of encyclopedic value, remove it. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information nor is it a fansite or a repository of info. This information can be created on a fan site somewhere. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 20:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I made a new article called Proper Einstein (musician), and I was wondering if someone could review it for me. There was a "refimprove" tag placed on it but I went back and made the necessary changes. If you can point me in the right direction, it would be great and also encourage me to create even more. Thanks. The Newbie06 ( talk) 22:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC) The Newbie06 ( talk) 22:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
FAR coordinator User:Casliber has nominated Elvis Presley for a featured article review here. This is a procedural review of its FA status due to the discovery of socking at its original FAC. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. The instructions for the review process are here.
If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
What musician articles should have discographies (or separate discography articles)? And what form should they take? Is there any guidance on this?
We're having a discussion at Fraser T. Smith on the question. Further input would be welcome. You can see my position there with respect to that case. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Why are the Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines only an essay? Does anyone have any objections to changing it to an actual guideline? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 00:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to notify some other WikiProjects of this - a few of the experienced editors and admin of WikiProject Video Games have set up a Wikipedia specific Discord (software) chat up for Wikipedia. Our little sub-community has enjoyed using it to talk about things more tangentially related to direct Wikipedia editing, so we thought we'd spread the word to some other areas and see if they had any interest. Figured I'd start here since music is my other main area of contributions.
Anyways, the invite link is here for a more music-related group, though obviously everyone is welcome everywhere. The "code of conduct" stuff is pretty much like IRC. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
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Down (band), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 04:03, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I've been editing St. Chika that was created and apparently owned by another editor. Could a project member or two please take a look to confirm the content? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:04, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Charles Neville died today; sole one of The Neville Brothers without an article
See Talk page on above article. Currently Charles Neville (musician) simply redirects to The Neville Brothers. All the other Neville Brothers -- Aaron, Art, Cyril, and Ivan - have excellent articles; Charles, the horn player as Aaron called him today in a moving post, has not even a stub.
See Neville Brothers infobox as well as Category:The Neville Brothers members for links to 4 good articles to be mined for sources and used as models.
Hope this is done before closing day of Jazz Fest, which the brothers traditionally closed down with a huge show every year. Thank you! -- Paulscrawl ( talk) 02:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Per advice at the Teahouse, I'm adding a link here for any competent music / biography editors to dive in:
Peace -- Paulscrawl ( talk) 04:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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There are a lot of photographs from The Queen's Birthday Party here. All are of suitable license and very high quality. They might be useful in biographies, especially of the lesser known musicians. Sadly, I can only identify the most famous. Surtsicna ( talk) 16:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Project members may be interested in this discussion re: whether or not we should categorize all songs by an artist by specific genre(s). Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Whether or not MusicBrainz authority file numbers should be included in {{ authority control}} is currently discussed at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#MusicBrainz. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please contribute to the discussion at Talk:Mary Hopkin#Mary Hopkin in the Land of..., which concerns whether a detailed list of TV shows should be included in the article about the singer. Verbcatcher ( talk) 19:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Another editor has created Draft:Anna Neale. While based in England, she has performed several times in Canada, as confirmed by articles in reliable sources. I would appreciate it if other editors could look at the draft. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 06:04, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Participation needed at Talk:Sasha_(Welsh_DJ)#Requested_move_5_July_2018. The editor whose username is Z0 13:34, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing that we make an official change to the article guidelines regarding how non-album singles are displayed in discography tables; they are used on musicians' pages when their discography is too small for a separate list. (I will be contacting WP Discographies as well, and, if necessary, moving this proposal there.) Non-album singles are either singles that were intended for an album and were later cancelled/removed from the album, or just released by themselves.
This sprouted from a conflict that VanWinkle92, Walter Görlitz and I were having on NF (rapper). What I would like to change is what we should do when listing them, because as Walter pointed out, there is no guideline on how to typeset it. There is a {{non-album single}} template available for use to emphasize that singles were not on an album, and combing through various featured-list discographies, I see that the form in which they're displayed varies wildly. Some use it, such as Tinashe, The Strokes, Sugababes, Garbage, and Evanescence (though I admit the latter is my own FL, I believe that template was there before I started editing it). Then again, there are some (which are usually older FLs and less popular groups) which don't use this, such as Deftones. Curiously, the example given in the template documentation doesn't even use it.
All I'm looking for is consistency. I support using the template because certainly it must exist for a reason. I'd still be happy if it's decided that we don't use it (I'll start a deletion discussion of it should that be the case). dannymusiceditor oops 21:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
I apologize if the members of this WikiProject were already alerted somehow, but if not, I have proposed the creation of WikiProject/They Might Be Giants~ Yogibeera ( talk) 13:05, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
I nominated Exo (band) as a Good Article Nominee two months ago and am seeking anyone interested to review the article. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets Good Article criteria. If you are interested, you can find instructions on how to review Good Article Nominees here. I would appreciate anyone's time to review this article, being the #2 most viewed article on Wikipedia. NicklausAU 03:44, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I have nominated Elaine Paige for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
New article which needs to be assessed. Not sure if the subject meets WP:BIO or even WP:MUSICBIO. Fair amount of sources cited, but many are just listings so maybe this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. There might also be some COI editing involved. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 21:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#RFC: Regarding genre listings in infobox for music band. Specifically; whether or not to include rock and roll to the list of genres in the infobox for the Led Zeppelin article. Thank you - wolf 08:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians - If an editor has time, kindly examine the article on the noted conductor and composer
Samuel Adler (composer). A request for an "Info Box - person" has been processed and included on the article but appears to be subject to continuous deletion (perhaps because Adler is still alive?) Kindly consider using the "Info Box academic" template {{
Infobox academic}}
to rectify this problem as suggested here
Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Composers, or perhaps assigning an "Infobox -Person" from the WikiProject Musicians Project since Adler was also an active conductor who founded the historic
Seventh Army Symphony Orchestra and was awarded the U. S. Army's highest
Medal of Honor for services to Music, published several academic books on Orchestra, and Choral conducting, was a member of the faculty at several leading music conservatories including the
Eastman School of Music and the
Juilliard School for over 60 years, and was recognized by his academic peers by receiving several Honorary Doctorate of Music degrees as well as membership in
Sigma Alpha Iota and
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Many thanks for your thoughtful consideration and assistance along with my best wishes for your continued success on Wikipedia. With warmest regards
104.207.219.150 (
talk)
20:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)PS
I came across a case of where the age of a living musician is conflicting. An article from Rolling Stone claims the musician in question ( Adonis) was 19 when he recorded "No Way Back", however, going by his birth date sourced from Encyclopedia of Popular Music (article cites All Music Guide to Electronica for the date, which I don't have access to, but it's the same date), he would've been around 22-23.
There's an comment about the date of birth being incorrect on the talk page for the article. However, at the time of the comments being added, there wasn't a birth date on the article ( old revision).
How should this be handled? Both sources are surely credible, but RS doesn't give an alternate date of birth. RoseCherry64 ( talk) 21:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Buddy Williams (country musician)#RfC on discography format. Thanks! – Reidgreg ( talk) 13:23, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
The RfC could use some additional input! – Reidgreg ( talk) 17:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Talk:Ice Creamusume#Merger discussion to merge Wu Si-hsuan, Chung An-chi, Tseng Te-ping, Chao Kuo-jung, Chiu Tsui-ling, Ku Yun, and 1st Zui Bang! to Ice Creamusume. These people do not have any notability beyond being in Ice Creamusume and do not need to have their own article in my opinion. 1st Zui Bang! also holds no notability with no sales and ranking information. Any input on whether the articles should be merged is appreciated! lullabying ( talk) 21:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Ss112 ( talk · contribs) has reverted my change of singer and songwriter to singer-songwriter in a few articles where I made the change earlier. There have been two discussions about this, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Archive 8#Singer-songwriter vs Singer and songwriter, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Archive 7#Does being a singer and songwriter equate to being a singer-songwriter and an RfC, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Archive 36#RfC: How should music BLPs approach the term "singer-songwriter"? the summary was "to follow the definition of singer-songwriter in the reliable sources available. It is also useful to remember the distinction between singer-songwriter and singer and songwriter." Since no sources were provided, I reverted. Has this agreement changed? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 03:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Please note that there is a new music list, see List of music museums. Please give your opinion too whether this list has been referenced enough. See the talk page for that. Ymnes ( talk) 16:46, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Two question about an upcoming "reunion". Anberlin tweeted that they will play a show December 14, 2018. The questions are:
I'm not sure if this is clear-cut. I did struggle with reverting the anon's edit made at 00:10:16 (UTC). Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
The documentation for the "origin" field of the musical artist infobox seems a little bit unclear when the infobox is about a specific stage-name. It says "where individual performer started their career" -- should that be where the person lived when they started performing music in general, or where they lived when they started using that stage name?
Bsammon ( talk) 03:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia editors: Perhaps if you have some extra time you might assess Alfredo Antonini. It was last assessed in 2008 as a Start-Class article and has been improved to include sections for Discography, Filmography, Awards and External links as well as enhancements to the biographical information and links to orchestra musicians and numerous operatic soloists who collaborated with him. Perhaps an upgrade in the assessment could be considered. Thanks in advance for your outstanding editorial assistance and best wishes for your continued success on Wikipedia! As always- with warmest regards 104.207.219.150 ( talk) 00:24, 25 October 2018 (UTC)PS
Chris Field (composer), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Richard3120 ( talk) 15:24, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
I've seen Billboard and other music publications indicate that a single will "impact" on radio on some date (rather than be released to radio), and hip-hop and urban contemporary artists tend to have albums "drop" (rather than have them released). I understand what they mean, but should we avoid this sort of language when writing articles? Should we use more standard prose, such as what I mentioned in parenthesis. I had one editor revert to "will impact", so it's not just an academic question. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:43, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
I have nominated Connie Talbot, an article in the scope of this project, for featured article review. Feel free to contribute at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Connie Talbot/archive1. Josh Milburn ( talk) 14:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone could take a look at this and assess it for Wikipedia notability. Article was created a few weeks back, but wasn't submitted to AfC. Article states Karlsson helped produce and write Runaway (U & I) which might be enough per WP:MUSICBIO, but I'm not sure if that also applies producers and writers of a hit song. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 07:50, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Was wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this article and assess it per WP:BAND. The article has been around for awhile and there appears to have been some COI editing to it over the years. There's quite a number of sources being cited, but many appear to be WP:PRIMARY or otherwise trivial types of mentions, while most of the albums appear to be self-published. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 06:13, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Some help is needed here. There are about 170 band articles that aren't listed on the relevant disambiguation page, for example the article is "Foo (band)" but the disambiguation page at "Foo" doesn't have an entry for it. All that needs to be done in most cases is to simply add the missing entry to the dab page. Sometimes, however, the fact that an article isn't linked from there might indicate that it hasn't received enough attention: it might not be notable, or it might be undercurated. If you take care of any of these, please strike it through from the list below (or add {{ done}}).
The list contains about half of the articles. If there's interest, I'll post the remainder. Thanks in advance! – Uanfala (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
There is an RFC at Talk:Stéphane_Grappelli#RFC:_Gay regarding whether or not the article should state that the subject was gay. Please provide your perspective! – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 04:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
The article Quinnes Parker has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. The nominator also raised the following concern:
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{ prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 05:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
I posted this at DGG's talk page and welcome comment here:
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 05:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
References
Hello fellow Wikipedians - Whenever an Editor has some extra time he or she might take a look at the article about Howard Hanson - the noted American composer and director at the Eastman School of Music. The article was recently upgraded to a B Class and might be enhanced by including an "Infobox person" since it is supported by the Wikiproject Biographies/Musicians. Many thanks in advance for your consideration and assistance 72.69.152.90 ( talk) 00:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)JJ
Hello. I am here to inform this WikiProject about the RfD of Throttle (musician) listed here. Any contribution to the discussion is appreciated. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 02:57, 28 January 2019 (UTC)