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I will start handing out the awards now, starting from the highest to lowest. If anyone is keen to help out, please start on the lowest numbers and we can meet someone in the middle. The awards are handed out on the following schedule:
The templates can be found at the top of this talk page. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 02:31, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
I was wondering why {{ military navigation}} supports the parameter "image" if a well defining image keeps getting deleted. See Template:Knight's Cross recipients of JG 52, or Template:Knight's Cross recipients of JG 1. Please advise, I don't believe this to be violating policies? Cheers MisterBee1966 ( talk) 19:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: If we are going to move forward with a march madness drive, then this is the time we really need to start thinking about it. At a minimum, a backlog reduction drive would be a great help to the project to help clear out the ever growing number of articles and such that need help with tagging and assessing and such. We could also stand a lap through our GA, A, and FA class articles to make sure that all the usually stuff we check for in the A and FA toolbox is present and accounted for (I know my own Iowa class battleships have a number of links that have gone red since the last check, which is not good for FA retention). Given all this, I'd like to open the discussion with the following points:
I'd welcome all feedback on these points, and if anyone has any suggestions or counter proposals I'd be happy to hear them. TomStar81 ( Talk) 12:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Coming in late but in response to your initial question Tom yes I'd support doing some kind of backlog drive along the lines of past efforts with awards being the same or similar to what we did last time. Trying to get other projects involved (i.e. SHIPS, Aviation, national projects etc) sounds like a good idea and will hopefully increase participation (as this seems to have been on the decline over the last few years as far as I can tell and is the critical vulnerability of any initiative). Anotherclown ( talk) 01:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Alright then we all seem to be in agreement that the drive is a good idea. Next step then is generating lists to work off of. I know for a fact that I am going to be working on my quality content, and we definitely have a plenty of articles with B-class checklists that need to be completed. We should also mention something in the Bugle about the drive to see if we can't drum up some support. TomStar81 ( Talk) 01:54, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: If we are moving forward with this then we need to get it set up within the next two weeks. So far we seem to be in consensus that it ought to be on two lines
Are we missing anything to the above? If not then we need to put our assessment department page on notice so we can get the relevant lists from the automated processes and put them out for editors to adopt and go through. TomStar81 ( Talk) 01:11, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Good afternoon all, I have tallied up the entries for March Madness now, as per below. Could I please get some help with handing out the awards? Thank you. Please sign the "Awarded (sig)" field once done. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 02:16, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, is there any plan to publish stats summatizing outcomes for this drive? Would be quite enlightening. Thanks, DPdH ( talk) 04:21, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
I have made a list of all the stub templates that apply to MILHIST here. Where do you guys think it would be a good place to put a link to it? I thought Assessment might make sense. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:20, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Given that recently we've been getting increased isp activity, and since the sock log grows ever larger with said isp edits, would it be possible (or even advisable) to entertain a rangeblock to stop the disruptive editing? TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:20, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, based on criticisms that I am seeing at various places such as WP:GAR and WP:FLC I am getting the sense that my reviews of various project-related articles are either missing a lot, or out of touch with wider Wikipedia expectations. As I do not want to disadvantage our content contributors by setting them up for failure at a later date, I will be taking a break from reviewing at GAN, ACR and FAC for an indefinite period. It is my hope that this will encourage newer editors perhaps with fresher ideas to get involved earlier in the review process to prevent major problems arising at higher levels. I will still potentially help with minor edits to candidate articles here and there, but will not be commenting on review pages directly for awhile. (Caveat: If I have offered a review prior to now, but not provided a "support" yet, I will return to the article once the issues are dealt with, but otherwise I won't be starting any new reviews.) Anyway, apologies for any angst that this may cause. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 07:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
The three oldest ACRS have all been open for over two months. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Edward William Purvis hasn't been edited since my oppose three weeks ago; understandable, since the sources just don't appear to be available but it probably needs closing by an uninvolved coord. The other two ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of frigates of India and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Indian naval air squadrons) are both from the same nominator, who also has Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sam Manekshaw open (nominated six weeks ago). The list of squadrons appears to be struggling for lack of input; the other two both have reviews with feedback that hasn't been actioned for over ten days. I suggest we close two, or at least one, to allow the nominator to focus on the remaining one and then re-nominate the other(s) when they're less busy. I'm also tempted to suggest that we impose a "one at a time rule" like FAC, but that seems a bit drastic so instead I'd suggest we ask nominators to wait until their first nomination is making good progress until nominating a second, and I think we should prod nominators and (if necessary) close reviews if nominators aren't responding to feedback once the review has gone past 28 days. I'm a big supporter of leaving reviews open for as long as they're generating useful feedback and I'm loathe to close a review for lack of input, but it's not fair to reviewers to let reviews stagnate. Thoughts? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
What should be done with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/United States Navy? The article is clearly not of A-class standard and the nominator is not in a position to bring it up to scratch. I'm inclined to delete it rather than archive it, but I wanted to check whether anyone has any objections. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I've tallied up the scores and updated the leader board for last month's contest. And I've handed out the runner-up's award, but can somebody handle the winner's award? My delicate sensibilities don't extend to giving it to myself!-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 17:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi folks. I'd really appreciate sensible eyes on the above article during its 'day in the sun' tomorrow. With the combination of the sensitive subject matter and the internal wiki-controversy over Gibraltar, I wouldn't be surprised if it attracted less-than-helpful edits but I'll have very limited availability tomorrow. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:37, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: We usually like to have our project news letter out around the 7th, its now the 10th, and it looks like the newsletter could still use some assembly. Therefore, I'm pinging everyone to see if there is anything else any of us can do to get this out before week's end. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:33, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
May I ask the coordinators to check if we have a violation of WP:3RR on the article Otto Schultz article? Cheers MisterBee1966 ( talk) 08:27, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
on Names_inscribed_on_the_Equestrian_statue_of_Frederick_the_Great list. I've had this problem before, and simply cannot get the wikiproject box to open on this page: Talk:Names_inscribed_on_the_Equestrian_statue_of_Frederick_the_Great there is nothing to force the "additional information" to drop down. :( auntieruth (talk) 22:01, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
( ←) @ TomStar81: @ Kirill Lokshin: I don't see an error message. The [ show ] just doesn't work. I can click it to the cows come home, open new window, etc, and it still doesn't show me anything. I cannot expand collapsed lists either. And Kirill, I have no idea if something has disabled Javascript, but I also don't know where to look. I keep it up-to-date, though. auntieruth (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, if anyone has some time to spare, several nominations for A-class at WP:MHACR are in need of another reviewer or two to help move things along. The following have been open for a while and are close to promotion but are waiting for more feedback:
If you have time to review one or more of these, the coordinators, and I'm sure the nominators, would be very grateful! Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Awhile back I had suggested that perhaps it may be a good idea to entertain adding edit notices to our FA, A, and GA class articles with a quick cover of what editors to the site - and in particular the new or guest contributors - would need to observe if they were going to add or subtract information from one of our FA, A, or GA class articles. In light of the fact that my jury duty ended up getting waived, I thought I might revisit this idea and make a formal proposal to the coordinators about whether there would be any interest in moving forward with the idea. I generated prototype templates for the edit notices based on each of the three class levels, placing them here for feedback. Keep in mind that these are merely examples, if we decide to adopt the idea of editnotices for quality content the templates below would no doubt be fiddled with before moving out, and of course we'd likely need to seek community consensus to move forward with this idea as well. Additionally, some of the quality content we have may end up needing additional information in the template if this proposal is adopted; for example, our World War II article notes the article to be written in British English, while Death of Osama bin Laden notes that the article's subject was controversial, and asks editors to take their concerns over reverted or removed material to the talk page for discussion and consensus. The prototype templates are below, and I would welcome any feedback on the idea and/or the templates (or both, if you like). TomStar81 ( Talk) 22:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Just wanted to notify everyone that I will be inactive until Finals are over. I will pop in occasionally, but won't be available for anything big for a while. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Recently an editor took it upon himself to remove ranks from the senior staff listed in the article on "The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina"; the excuse was that the wiki guidelines do not allow for use of 'titles or honoraria' but makes no mention of military rank. Military ranks are clearly a special category that is not a title or honoraria, in the U.S. military officers are commissioned by the President of the United States and the rule has long been that they are entitled to be addressed by their rank whether active or retired. Especially when an article has to do with some military topic common sense dictates it is clearly appropriate and logical to use military rank, also not the rule not only does not address military rank it states that "we AVOID using titles and honoraria". Subsequently someone, presumably an administrator has remove ranks from all military personnel in wiki articles.
Logic dictates that unless something is SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED it is acceptable. This seems to be consistent with what I have seen from many wiki editors who are biased, don't use common sense and in some cases make decisions based on a vendetta against posters who disagree with them. There clearly needs to be a fair and unbiased discussion about this issue and some common sense needs to prevail. Bob80q ( talk) 20:11, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm new at this and am not sure how to update a Wiki page for someone. I was wondering if someone can help with updating a Military biography page with adding awards and such. I also have a higher resolution picture of the individual as well. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSCUSN ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey all, you might have noticed that Sturmvogel has gone missing. It's been 2 months since he last edited, and as far as I am aware has not reached out to anyone off-wiki (I know that Ed emailed him a few weeks ago and got no response). A few of us were able to take care of the GA reviews he had pending, either reviews he started but did not finish or articles he had nominated. There remains Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/HMS Vanguard (1909), which has been open for over 2 months now. What do we want to do with it? Does anyone have any interest in handling comments from reviewers? Or should we just archive it? Parsecboy ( talk) 20:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I am currently revamping the Cold War WikiProject and I was wondering if anyone could help me especially since this is the first time I am working on a WikiProject. Also, I noticed that this WikiProject has a Cold War taskforce which is why I am asking for help from this group. Please let me know by writing a comment on this post or on my talk page. Thanks Karthanitesh ( talk) 23:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: I wanted to bring up a few things here since its time we discuss them:
Aside from those two points at the moment is there anything else that we need/want to discuss ahead of the coordinator election, or anything else we need to seek community input on before moving forward with? I don't think there is, but I figure it never hurts to ask. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:45, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day all, just a reminder that the nomination period for the co-ord election has commenced. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 08:53, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, I was wondering if there is any way to add a "Needed" class; to be applied to redirects that should be made into articles, that are only redirects because they have not been created, and are thus redirecting to a related article. This way it would be possible to sort the permanent redirects from the redirects that should be made into articles. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
I am seeking information on the convention for naming military units. The former wikipedia page on this topic refers me to your group. I think, but am not sure, that the Center for Military History is the arbiter of this protocal. Can you offer any guidance on a source?
Specifically I am interested in Army Chemical Corps units, and the proper naming as "chemical" versus the new acronym CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological Nuclear, Explosive.) Some units are calling them selves "xxth CBRNE unit" and others "xxth Chemical unit (CBRNE)" and other variaataions.
My role is that of Historian working with the 48th Chemical Brigade at Fort Hoood.
Walter Eldredge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walt539 ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
This editor has almost single-handedly created over 75 Soviet division articles and appears hell-bent on created all the articles required for World War II - hundreds of them!! Would Coordinators kindly advise me on any additional recognition possible beyond barnstars, or initiate consideration of upper echelons of WikiChevrons, with Diamonds & Swords etc? Buckshot06 (talk) 04:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
First of all, sorry to brag in a little off-topic! By a stunning coincidence I just hopped-on my wiki user page and watchlist today, exactly ten years after I was firstly elected Milhist project coordinator and a bit of nostalgia came by. I opened this discussion and I was glad to see you guys keep up this excellent work! I want to send my very best regards to my old-folks and colleagues Kirill, Roger, Nick, Ian Rose, Buckshot, Parsecboy, Tomstar, Sturmvogel, Hawkeye, as well as all the newer guys who I did not have the pleasure to work with, as unfortunately I'm too busy with real-life aviation to conitnue to contribute consistently here on wiki. Take care and all the very best! Yours, -- Eurocopter ( talk) 07:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, my power has gone out as a result of the hurricane, I don't know how long it will be gone. I won't be able to do much on Wikipedia while it's out. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
here any takers? auntieruth (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
I don't believe there is currently any way to search by two task forces within the MILHIST assessment categories, i.e. stub class Maritime and German articles, or C class World War Two and British articles. Would this be possible to implement? It would be helpful for searching for articles. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 16:54, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm wondering what should be done with this nomination. The nominator doesn't seem to be in a position to address reviewers' comments (they've only made two edits since the nomination, neither of them to the article or the ACR, and judging by the FAC and PR they don't realise that reviews are interactive processes), which is probably why reviewers have been unwilling to invest their time in providing feedback. I notice Nick and AC have been involved in the ACR; do either of you have any thoughts? Unless someone else is wiling to take on the review, I suggest we close it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:05, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day all, the voting period has ended, so I have archived the election page now. In terms of results, we appear to have 13 candidates who achieved over the minimum of 15 votes. Our stated max on the election page was 11, including the lead, but I would like to propose that we (like last year), accept the extra two positions as supernumerary. I don't see any major harm in doing so, as there appears to be a good level of support for all candidates (so arguably it isn't going against broad community consensus) and doing so should actually help us grow a larger pool of co-ords for the future. I would argue this is only a good thing. Are there any concerns with this? Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 00:19, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I have been looking at the NPP Browser and adding banners and have some questions as a newbie regarding bots and logs. The short question is, is there a bot to create a log to streamline/automate finding articles to "banner"? The NPP browser has searches/filters by categories but not a filter for those without a banner (that I can see). It also catches video games with this. Then there are the uncategorised articles. A keyword search would narrow the field while a creation date would limit going back over old ground. Regards Cinderella157 ( talk) 05:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
G'day @ WP:MILHIST coordinators: . We've passed 1000 Featured Articles! I propose we set a new Featured Article target of 1200, and highlight this milestone in the next Bugle. Thoughts? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 04:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Historically, it appears that the FA milestone has been upgraded in increments of 250. See here and here. I don't see any good reason to change that. Biblio ( talk) 14:59, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
What do you suggest to do with a page [apparently] copied and pasted (without review or copy edited) from another Wiki language article? A review of the editor's talk page might provide some insight. A quick check suggests that the editor, if not a native English speaker has good english language skills, has been online since 2013, has over 21000 edits total and 2200 odd in the last year. I have probably answered my own question - a polite request to do some more work on the article and to spend some more time on future articles before migrating to the main-space. On the otherhand, some of you may have had some dealings with the editor previously and have some better insight ... I have/am making a couple of quick edits but it wikll need a fair bit of work. Regards, Cinderella157 ( talk) 09:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Earlier this week, I approached WikiProject Tanks and suggested a merger with our Military land vehicles task force. In my view, the division of efforts is detrimental to article quality. Fortunately, the members of the project were very much open to a merger. I have proposed the following conditions:
Another editor also proposed the creation of a new special project, like Majestic Titan. I noted that Operation Tanks was started last year and never really gained much participation. However, I think it is possible that Operation Tanks could be revived and broadened into a general project for military vehicles. Of course, such a proposal will meet the same fate as Operation Tanks unless it has the general approval of the other coordinators and project members.
I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this merger. Biblio ( talk) 15:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Next thing is updating the categories for respective classes, however this can be done by adding MILHIS template to talk, and does anything needs to be changed in the scope of Military land vehicles task force, as defined currently. Looking forward for other's suggestions on the merger procedure. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 17:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: WikiProject Tanks has just been merged into our Military land vehicles task force. I invite everyone to review the TF's main page and provide their comments.
The only remaining task is to remove the WP:TANKS project template from hundreds of article talk pages. I do not have enough time to deal with that right now, so I would greatly appreciate it if someone could automate the removals. Biblio ( talk) 20:35, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
@ AustralianRupert and Peacemaker67: I have no objection to your proposal. For the purpose of the merger itself, I was trying to retain more rather than less, but I always intended that some clean-up would take place in the aftermath. I will redirect the page shortly. And regarding your question, Krishna, I am not aware of anything else to remove. You may proceed with the template removal. Biblio ( talk) 15:36, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Hi everyone, I have been thinking that why don't we activate an archival bot on our coord's talk page. We can instruct it to archive threads older than two weeks or so. We can use the same lowercase sigmabot III that is used on the Project's talk page. Please voice your opinions. --Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 02:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: A little-known feature of the MilHistBot is that the ability to promote/demote A class articles is restricted to members of the category Category:WikiProject Military history coordinators. (This is security through obscurity, as anyone can add themself to the category - a better way would be to have a page listing the coordinators, which was locked so only admins can update it.) Anyway, there's a feature in Mediawiki whereby you can have a home page on Meta and it automatically appears in all Wikis. This can be useful for people who work in multiple languages. This affects two of you: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, and Kirill Lokshin, our coordinator emeritus. What has happened is that you two have been added to meta:Category:WikiProject Military history coordinators and the MilHistBot checks that too. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:44, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day everyone, please study and comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/Globalizing our presence. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 04:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
G'day all. Just wondering if one of the co-ordinators would be willing to offer a third review for Humphrey Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham please? Through no fault of the nominator this one has taken quite a while to get through ACR (its first review ended up being closed at the four month mark due in part to limited reviewers). It's current review has two supports and it would be good to finalise this one if possible so that the article can continue to move forward. Thanks again. Anotherclown ( talk) 09:04, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Just by chance I happened to find Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#Ship_Index_pages_-_another_try. Is this something we should advertise to the membership? It would potentially effect MILHIST by means of military cargo ships or military merchant shipping, though these are not necessarily strictly within our purview. TomStar81 ( Talk) 15:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day @ WP:MILHIST coordinators: I've pinged Hawkeye about whether Milhistbot is currently setup to automatically nominate anyone for the A-Class Cross who has been awarded their fifteenth ACM with Diamonds. In the meantime, given Hawkeye is shortly going to be getting articles promoted that will qualify him for an ACC, I thought it was worth revisiting the criteria. ACMs are awarded for groups of three articles. When we put together the ACC arrangements three years ago, we decided to make it five articles for each ACC. I just wondered if we could get a consensus on whether that is still the preference of the coord team, or whether it should be three like the ACMs. If you could all state your preference, that would help us get this sorted asap. Thanks, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 06:06, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, there appears to be a hiccup with the Sturmvogel's tally on Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/ACM/Eligibility tracking. Per this diff, Sturm has three credits, but on two separate lines. Does anyone know why this might have happened? Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 08:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The page "Royal Navy officer rank insignia" shows the sleeve and epaulets for "Current Ranks and Insignia". Please be advised that the epaulet for Commodore has changed since the rank of Commodore became a substantive rank in about 2001. The reference of this is in the Royal Navy Uniform Regulations as amended to June 2016 ( https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/-/media/royal-navy-responsive/documents/reference-library/br-3-vol-1/chapter-39.pdf) and a diagram is given nearly at the end of this chapter at Annex 39E (see Fig 39E-6e 1* Commodore) I have uploaded a version of how this should look at File:British Royal Navy OF-6-New.svg in the same form as the epaulets for Admiral, Vice Admiral, Rear Admiral which I have created by taking your version of a Rear Admiral epaulet in .sgv format and amending it in Corel Photo-Paint and converting back to .sgv for ease of posting. I hope this helps. BarryALG ( talk) 18:00, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: As a reminder, next month we formally open the nominations for the Mlitary Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards. A notice should go out in the bugle this month, and we need to get the pages set up soon. We also need to discuss when the nomination and voting periods will begin and end. I'd propose a two week nomination/vote scheme since December is a slow month, with our nomination anchor day being December 4 (a Monday), but I'm open to other suggestions if anyone has any. TomStar81 ( Talk) 22:45, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Just a reminder, nominations for this are due to close in the next 11 hours or so. If anyone would like to nominate someone, please do so. I would be very keen to see a few more noms for the NOTY award if anyone has identified someone who deserves recognition. Happy for more noms for MHOTY also, of course. Cheers, AustralianRupert ( talk) 13:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello
Just getting in touch to flag an addition to the 'Greenwich armour' page /info/en/?search=Greenwich_armour
There is a surviving armour of this kind in Glasgow Museums collection http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/starobject.html?oid=425268
It was made by the master armourer Erasmus Kirkener (also spelt Kyrkener/Kyrkenar) considered by some of the most influential arms & armour scholars to be ‘probably the most innovative in the life of the Greenwich workshops’ (Norman & Eaves, 2016, Blair, 1985).
BLAIR, C. 1985. Greenwich Armour. Transactions of the Greenwich & Lewisham Antiquarian Society 10, 6-11 NORMAN, A.V.B., & EAVES, I. 2016. Arms & Armour in the Collection of Her Majesty the Queen. London: Royal Collection see https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/people/erasmus-kyrkenar-c-1495-1567#/type/creator
-- Tracey Mac 44 ( talk) 11:15, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, just looking at these two lists: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Members/Active and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Members/Inactive. Short of manually checking contributions, is there an easy way to work out whether someone on either list belongs there? (Is there a bot, or a script for instance?) For instance, one imagines that there might be some who are listed on the inactive list who may in fact be active, and of course, vice versa. I only ask, because I am considering sending out a mass message for the MHOTY nominations/voting and intend using the active list as the source for delivery purposes. Cheers, AustralianRupert ( talk) 23:55, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Just FYI, I've changed Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review/Instructions to tell nominators to contact the coords if they want to nominate an article for its second ACR. This isn't something that happens very often and I've seen people struggle with it, so telling them to contact us seems like the best option, and we can move the existing review for them (those of us who are admins can do it without leaving a redirect, which should allow the "initiate nomination" link to work properly). IF anyone strongly disagrees with me, feel free to revert. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:49, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
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I will start handing out the awards now, starting from the highest to lowest. If anyone is keen to help out, please start on the lowest numbers and we can meet someone in the middle. The awards are handed out on the following schedule:
The templates can be found at the top of this talk page. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 02:31, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
I was wondering why {{ military navigation}} supports the parameter "image" if a well defining image keeps getting deleted. See Template:Knight's Cross recipients of JG 52, or Template:Knight's Cross recipients of JG 1. Please advise, I don't believe this to be violating policies? Cheers MisterBee1966 ( talk) 19:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: If we are going to move forward with a march madness drive, then this is the time we really need to start thinking about it. At a minimum, a backlog reduction drive would be a great help to the project to help clear out the ever growing number of articles and such that need help with tagging and assessing and such. We could also stand a lap through our GA, A, and FA class articles to make sure that all the usually stuff we check for in the A and FA toolbox is present and accounted for (I know my own Iowa class battleships have a number of links that have gone red since the last check, which is not good for FA retention). Given all this, I'd like to open the discussion with the following points:
I'd welcome all feedback on these points, and if anyone has any suggestions or counter proposals I'd be happy to hear them. TomStar81 ( Talk) 12:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Coming in late but in response to your initial question Tom yes I'd support doing some kind of backlog drive along the lines of past efforts with awards being the same or similar to what we did last time. Trying to get other projects involved (i.e. SHIPS, Aviation, national projects etc) sounds like a good idea and will hopefully increase participation (as this seems to have been on the decline over the last few years as far as I can tell and is the critical vulnerability of any initiative). Anotherclown ( talk) 01:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Alright then we all seem to be in agreement that the drive is a good idea. Next step then is generating lists to work off of. I know for a fact that I am going to be working on my quality content, and we definitely have a plenty of articles with B-class checklists that need to be completed. We should also mention something in the Bugle about the drive to see if we can't drum up some support. TomStar81 ( Talk) 01:54, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: If we are moving forward with this then we need to get it set up within the next two weeks. So far we seem to be in consensus that it ought to be on two lines
Are we missing anything to the above? If not then we need to put our assessment department page on notice so we can get the relevant lists from the automated processes and put them out for editors to adopt and go through. TomStar81 ( Talk) 01:11, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Good afternoon all, I have tallied up the entries for March Madness now, as per below. Could I please get some help with handing out the awards? Thank you. Please sign the "Awarded (sig)" field once done. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 02:16, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, is there any plan to publish stats summatizing outcomes for this drive? Would be quite enlightening. Thanks, DPdH ( talk) 04:21, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
I have made a list of all the stub templates that apply to MILHIST here. Where do you guys think it would be a good place to put a link to it? I thought Assessment might make sense. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:20, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Given that recently we've been getting increased isp activity, and since the sock log grows ever larger with said isp edits, would it be possible (or even advisable) to entertain a rangeblock to stop the disruptive editing? TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:20, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, based on criticisms that I am seeing at various places such as WP:GAR and WP:FLC I am getting the sense that my reviews of various project-related articles are either missing a lot, or out of touch with wider Wikipedia expectations. As I do not want to disadvantage our content contributors by setting them up for failure at a later date, I will be taking a break from reviewing at GAN, ACR and FAC for an indefinite period. It is my hope that this will encourage newer editors perhaps with fresher ideas to get involved earlier in the review process to prevent major problems arising at higher levels. I will still potentially help with minor edits to candidate articles here and there, but will not be commenting on review pages directly for awhile. (Caveat: If I have offered a review prior to now, but not provided a "support" yet, I will return to the article once the issues are dealt with, but otherwise I won't be starting any new reviews.) Anyway, apologies for any angst that this may cause. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 07:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
The three oldest ACRS have all been open for over two months. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Edward William Purvis hasn't been edited since my oppose three weeks ago; understandable, since the sources just don't appear to be available but it probably needs closing by an uninvolved coord. The other two ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of frigates of India and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Indian naval air squadrons) are both from the same nominator, who also has Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sam Manekshaw open (nominated six weeks ago). The list of squadrons appears to be struggling for lack of input; the other two both have reviews with feedback that hasn't been actioned for over ten days. I suggest we close two, or at least one, to allow the nominator to focus on the remaining one and then re-nominate the other(s) when they're less busy. I'm also tempted to suggest that we impose a "one at a time rule" like FAC, but that seems a bit drastic so instead I'd suggest we ask nominators to wait until their first nomination is making good progress until nominating a second, and I think we should prod nominators and (if necessary) close reviews if nominators aren't responding to feedback once the review has gone past 28 days. I'm a big supporter of leaving reviews open for as long as they're generating useful feedback and I'm loathe to close a review for lack of input, but it's not fair to reviewers to let reviews stagnate. Thoughts? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
What should be done with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/United States Navy? The article is clearly not of A-class standard and the nominator is not in a position to bring it up to scratch. I'm inclined to delete it rather than archive it, but I wanted to check whether anyone has any objections. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I've tallied up the scores and updated the leader board for last month's contest. And I've handed out the runner-up's award, but can somebody handle the winner's award? My delicate sensibilities don't extend to giving it to myself!-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 17:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi folks. I'd really appreciate sensible eyes on the above article during its 'day in the sun' tomorrow. With the combination of the sensitive subject matter and the internal wiki-controversy over Gibraltar, I wouldn't be surprised if it attracted less-than-helpful edits but I'll have very limited availability tomorrow. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:37, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: We usually like to have our project news letter out around the 7th, its now the 10th, and it looks like the newsletter could still use some assembly. Therefore, I'm pinging everyone to see if there is anything else any of us can do to get this out before week's end. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:33, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
May I ask the coordinators to check if we have a violation of WP:3RR on the article Otto Schultz article? Cheers MisterBee1966 ( talk) 08:27, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
on Names_inscribed_on_the_Equestrian_statue_of_Frederick_the_Great list. I've had this problem before, and simply cannot get the wikiproject box to open on this page: Talk:Names_inscribed_on_the_Equestrian_statue_of_Frederick_the_Great there is nothing to force the "additional information" to drop down. :( auntieruth (talk) 22:01, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
( ←) @ TomStar81: @ Kirill Lokshin: I don't see an error message. The [ show ] just doesn't work. I can click it to the cows come home, open new window, etc, and it still doesn't show me anything. I cannot expand collapsed lists either. And Kirill, I have no idea if something has disabled Javascript, but I also don't know where to look. I keep it up-to-date, though. auntieruth (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, if anyone has some time to spare, several nominations for A-class at WP:MHACR are in need of another reviewer or two to help move things along. The following have been open for a while and are close to promotion but are waiting for more feedback:
If you have time to review one or more of these, the coordinators, and I'm sure the nominators, would be very grateful! Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Awhile back I had suggested that perhaps it may be a good idea to entertain adding edit notices to our FA, A, and GA class articles with a quick cover of what editors to the site - and in particular the new or guest contributors - would need to observe if they were going to add or subtract information from one of our FA, A, or GA class articles. In light of the fact that my jury duty ended up getting waived, I thought I might revisit this idea and make a formal proposal to the coordinators about whether there would be any interest in moving forward with the idea. I generated prototype templates for the edit notices based on each of the three class levels, placing them here for feedback. Keep in mind that these are merely examples, if we decide to adopt the idea of editnotices for quality content the templates below would no doubt be fiddled with before moving out, and of course we'd likely need to seek community consensus to move forward with this idea as well. Additionally, some of the quality content we have may end up needing additional information in the template if this proposal is adopted; for example, our World War II article notes the article to be written in British English, while Death of Osama bin Laden notes that the article's subject was controversial, and asks editors to take their concerns over reverted or removed material to the talk page for discussion and consensus. The prototype templates are below, and I would welcome any feedback on the idea and/or the templates (or both, if you like). TomStar81 ( Talk) 22:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Just wanted to notify everyone that I will be inactive until Finals are over. I will pop in occasionally, but won't be available for anything big for a while. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Recently an editor took it upon himself to remove ranks from the senior staff listed in the article on "The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina"; the excuse was that the wiki guidelines do not allow for use of 'titles or honoraria' but makes no mention of military rank. Military ranks are clearly a special category that is not a title or honoraria, in the U.S. military officers are commissioned by the President of the United States and the rule has long been that they are entitled to be addressed by their rank whether active or retired. Especially when an article has to do with some military topic common sense dictates it is clearly appropriate and logical to use military rank, also not the rule not only does not address military rank it states that "we AVOID using titles and honoraria". Subsequently someone, presumably an administrator has remove ranks from all military personnel in wiki articles.
Logic dictates that unless something is SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED it is acceptable. This seems to be consistent with what I have seen from many wiki editors who are biased, don't use common sense and in some cases make decisions based on a vendetta against posters who disagree with them. There clearly needs to be a fair and unbiased discussion about this issue and some common sense needs to prevail. Bob80q ( talk) 20:11, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Currently, the English Wikipedia has more than 50 official policies with a word count close to 150,000 (enough for a thick book). But that’s just the tip of the administrative iceberg. In addition to the policies, there are guidelines and essays—more than 450 devoted solely to proper conduct. You will also find more than 1,200 essays containing comments on the policies and guidelines, advisory notes, and analyses of the community. The total word count for all guidelines and essays can easily be in the magnitude of millions. It is safe to assume that no one in the world knows them all, and that Wikipedians really wallow in creating norms and regulations. [1]
Hi, I'm new at this and am not sure how to update a Wiki page for someone. I was wondering if someone can help with updating a Military biography page with adding awards and such. I also have a higher resolution picture of the individual as well. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSCUSN ( talk • contribs) 22:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey all, you might have noticed that Sturmvogel has gone missing. It's been 2 months since he last edited, and as far as I am aware has not reached out to anyone off-wiki (I know that Ed emailed him a few weeks ago and got no response). A few of us were able to take care of the GA reviews he had pending, either reviews he started but did not finish or articles he had nominated. There remains Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/HMS Vanguard (1909), which has been open for over 2 months now. What do we want to do with it? Does anyone have any interest in handling comments from reviewers? Or should we just archive it? Parsecboy ( talk) 20:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I am currently revamping the Cold War WikiProject and I was wondering if anyone could help me especially since this is the first time I am working on a WikiProject. Also, I noticed that this WikiProject has a Cold War taskforce which is why I am asking for help from this group. Please let me know by writing a comment on this post or on my talk page. Thanks Karthanitesh ( talk) 23:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: I wanted to bring up a few things here since its time we discuss them:
Aside from those two points at the moment is there anything else that we need/want to discuss ahead of the coordinator election, or anything else we need to seek community input on before moving forward with? I don't think there is, but I figure it never hurts to ask. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:45, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day all, just a reminder that the nomination period for the co-ord election has commenced. Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 08:53, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, I was wondering if there is any way to add a "Needed" class; to be applied to redirects that should be made into articles, that are only redirects because they have not been created, and are thus redirecting to a related article. This way it would be possible to sort the permanent redirects from the redirects that should be made into articles. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 03:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
I am seeking information on the convention for naming military units. The former wikipedia page on this topic refers me to your group. I think, but am not sure, that the Center for Military History is the arbiter of this protocal. Can you offer any guidance on a source?
Specifically I am interested in Army Chemical Corps units, and the proper naming as "chemical" versus the new acronym CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological Nuclear, Explosive.) Some units are calling them selves "xxth CBRNE unit" and others "xxth Chemical unit (CBRNE)" and other variaataions.
My role is that of Historian working with the 48th Chemical Brigade at Fort Hoood.
Walter Eldredge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walt539 ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
This editor has almost single-handedly created over 75 Soviet division articles and appears hell-bent on created all the articles required for World War II - hundreds of them!! Would Coordinators kindly advise me on any additional recognition possible beyond barnstars, or initiate consideration of upper echelons of WikiChevrons, with Diamonds & Swords etc? Buckshot06 (talk) 04:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
First of all, sorry to brag in a little off-topic! By a stunning coincidence I just hopped-on my wiki user page and watchlist today, exactly ten years after I was firstly elected Milhist project coordinator and a bit of nostalgia came by. I opened this discussion and I was glad to see you guys keep up this excellent work! I want to send my very best regards to my old-folks and colleagues Kirill, Roger, Nick, Ian Rose, Buckshot, Parsecboy, Tomstar, Sturmvogel, Hawkeye, as well as all the newer guys who I did not have the pleasure to work with, as unfortunately I'm too busy with real-life aviation to conitnue to contribute consistently here on wiki. Take care and all the very best! Yours, -- Eurocopter ( talk) 07:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, my power has gone out as a result of the hurricane, I don't know how long it will be gone. I won't be able to do much on Wikipedia while it's out. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
here any takers? auntieruth (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
I don't believe there is currently any way to search by two task forces within the MILHIST assessment categories, i.e. stub class Maritime and German articles, or C class World War Two and British articles. Would this be possible to implement? It would be helpful for searching for articles. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 16:54, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm wondering what should be done with this nomination. The nominator doesn't seem to be in a position to address reviewers' comments (they've only made two edits since the nomination, neither of them to the article or the ACR, and judging by the FAC and PR they don't realise that reviews are interactive processes), which is probably why reviewers have been unwilling to invest their time in providing feedback. I notice Nick and AC have been involved in the ACR; do either of you have any thoughts? Unless someone else is wiling to take on the review, I suggest we close it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:05, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day all, the voting period has ended, so I have archived the election page now. In terms of results, we appear to have 13 candidates who achieved over the minimum of 15 votes. Our stated max on the election page was 11, including the lead, but I would like to propose that we (like last year), accept the extra two positions as supernumerary. I don't see any major harm in doing so, as there appears to be a good level of support for all candidates (so arguably it isn't going against broad community consensus) and doing so should actually help us grow a larger pool of co-ords for the future. I would argue this is only a good thing. Are there any concerns with this? Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 00:19, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I have been looking at the NPP Browser and adding banners and have some questions as a newbie regarding bots and logs. The short question is, is there a bot to create a log to streamline/automate finding articles to "banner"? The NPP browser has searches/filters by categories but not a filter for those without a banner (that I can see). It also catches video games with this. Then there are the uncategorised articles. A keyword search would narrow the field while a creation date would limit going back over old ground. Regards Cinderella157 ( talk) 05:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
G'day @ WP:MILHIST coordinators: . We've passed 1000 Featured Articles! I propose we set a new Featured Article target of 1200, and highlight this milestone in the next Bugle. Thoughts? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 04:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Historically, it appears that the FA milestone has been upgraded in increments of 250. See here and here. I don't see any good reason to change that. Biblio ( talk) 14:59, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
What do you suggest to do with a page [apparently] copied and pasted (without review or copy edited) from another Wiki language article? A review of the editor's talk page might provide some insight. A quick check suggests that the editor, if not a native English speaker has good english language skills, has been online since 2013, has over 21000 edits total and 2200 odd in the last year. I have probably answered my own question - a polite request to do some more work on the article and to spend some more time on future articles before migrating to the main-space. On the otherhand, some of you may have had some dealings with the editor previously and have some better insight ... I have/am making a couple of quick edits but it wikll need a fair bit of work. Regards, Cinderella157 ( talk) 09:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Earlier this week, I approached WikiProject Tanks and suggested a merger with our Military land vehicles task force. In my view, the division of efforts is detrimental to article quality. Fortunately, the members of the project were very much open to a merger. I have proposed the following conditions:
Another editor also proposed the creation of a new special project, like Majestic Titan. I noted that Operation Tanks was started last year and never really gained much participation. However, I think it is possible that Operation Tanks could be revived and broadened into a general project for military vehicles. Of course, such a proposal will meet the same fate as Operation Tanks unless it has the general approval of the other coordinators and project members.
I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this merger. Biblio ( talk) 15:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Next thing is updating the categories for respective classes, however this can be done by adding MILHIS template to talk, and does anything needs to be changed in the scope of Military land vehicles task force, as defined currently. Looking forward for other's suggestions on the merger procedure. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 17:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: WikiProject Tanks has just been merged into our Military land vehicles task force. I invite everyone to review the TF's main page and provide their comments.
The only remaining task is to remove the WP:TANKS project template from hundreds of article talk pages. I do not have enough time to deal with that right now, so I would greatly appreciate it if someone could automate the removals. Biblio ( talk) 20:35, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
@ AustralianRupert and Peacemaker67: I have no objection to your proposal. For the purpose of the merger itself, I was trying to retain more rather than less, but I always intended that some clean-up would take place in the aftermath. I will redirect the page shortly. And regarding your question, Krishna, I am not aware of anything else to remove. You may proceed with the template removal. Biblio ( talk) 15:36, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Hi everyone, I have been thinking that why don't we activate an archival bot on our coord's talk page. We can instruct it to archive threads older than two weeks or so. We can use the same lowercase sigmabot III that is used on the Project's talk page. Please voice your opinions. --Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 02:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: A little-known feature of the MilHistBot is that the ability to promote/demote A class articles is restricted to members of the category Category:WikiProject Military history coordinators. (This is security through obscurity, as anyone can add themself to the category - a better way would be to have a page listing the coordinators, which was locked so only admins can update it.) Anyway, there's a feature in Mediawiki whereby you can have a home page on Meta and it automatically appears in all Wikis. This can be useful for people who work in multiple languages. This affects two of you: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, and Kirill Lokshin, our coordinator emeritus. What has happened is that you two have been added to meta:Category:WikiProject Military history coordinators and the MilHistBot checks that too. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:44, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: G'day everyone, please study and comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/Globalizing our presence. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 04:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
G'day all. Just wondering if one of the co-ordinators would be willing to offer a third review for Humphrey Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham please? Through no fault of the nominator this one has taken quite a while to get through ACR (its first review ended up being closed at the four month mark due in part to limited reviewers). It's current review has two supports and it would be good to finalise this one if possible so that the article can continue to move forward. Thanks again. Anotherclown ( talk) 09:04, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Just by chance I happened to find Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#Ship_Index_pages_-_another_try. Is this something we should advertise to the membership? It would potentially effect MILHIST by means of military cargo ships or military merchant shipping, though these are not necessarily strictly within our purview. TomStar81 ( Talk) 15:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day @ WP:MILHIST coordinators: I've pinged Hawkeye about whether Milhistbot is currently setup to automatically nominate anyone for the A-Class Cross who has been awarded their fifteenth ACM with Diamonds. In the meantime, given Hawkeye is shortly going to be getting articles promoted that will qualify him for an ACC, I thought it was worth revisiting the criteria. ACMs are awarded for groups of three articles. When we put together the ACC arrangements three years ago, we decided to make it five articles for each ACC. I just wondered if we could get a consensus on whether that is still the preference of the coord team, or whether it should be three like the ACMs. If you could all state your preference, that would help us get this sorted asap. Thanks, Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 06:06, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, there appears to be a hiccup with the Sturmvogel's tally on Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Awards/ACM/Eligibility tracking. Per this diff, Sturm has three credits, but on two separate lines. Does anyone know why this might have happened? Regards, AustralianRupert ( talk) 08:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The page "Royal Navy officer rank insignia" shows the sleeve and epaulets for "Current Ranks and Insignia". Please be advised that the epaulet for Commodore has changed since the rank of Commodore became a substantive rank in about 2001. The reference of this is in the Royal Navy Uniform Regulations as amended to June 2016 ( https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/-/media/royal-navy-responsive/documents/reference-library/br-3-vol-1/chapter-39.pdf) and a diagram is given nearly at the end of this chapter at Annex 39E (see Fig 39E-6e 1* Commodore) I have uploaded a version of how this should look at File:British Royal Navy OF-6-New.svg in the same form as the epaulets for Admiral, Vice Admiral, Rear Admiral which I have created by taking your version of a Rear Admiral epaulet in .sgv format and amending it in Corel Photo-Paint and converting back to .sgv for ease of posting. I hope this helps. BarryALG ( talk) 18:00, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: As a reminder, next month we formally open the nominations for the Mlitary Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards. A notice should go out in the bugle this month, and we need to get the pages set up soon. We also need to discuss when the nomination and voting periods will begin and end. I'd propose a two week nomination/vote scheme since December is a slow month, with our nomination anchor day being December 4 (a Monday), but I'm open to other suggestions if anyone has any. TomStar81 ( Talk) 22:45, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: Just a reminder, nominations for this are due to close in the next 11 hours or so. If anyone would like to nominate someone, please do so. I would be very keen to see a few more noms for the NOTY award if anyone has identified someone who deserves recognition. Happy for more noms for MHOTY also, of course. Cheers, AustralianRupert ( talk) 13:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello
Just getting in touch to flag an addition to the 'Greenwich armour' page /info/en/?search=Greenwich_armour
There is a surviving armour of this kind in Glasgow Museums collection http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/starobject.html?oid=425268
It was made by the master armourer Erasmus Kirkener (also spelt Kyrkener/Kyrkenar) considered by some of the most influential arms & armour scholars to be ‘probably the most innovative in the life of the Greenwich workshops’ (Norman & Eaves, 2016, Blair, 1985).
BLAIR, C. 1985. Greenwich Armour. Transactions of the Greenwich & Lewisham Antiquarian Society 10, 6-11 NORMAN, A.V.B., & EAVES, I. 2016. Arms & Armour in the Collection of Her Majesty the Queen. London: Royal Collection see https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/people/erasmus-kyrkenar-c-1495-1567#/type/creator
-- Tracey Mac 44 ( talk) 11:15, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
G'day all, just looking at these two lists: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Members/Active and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Members/Inactive. Short of manually checking contributions, is there an easy way to work out whether someone on either list belongs there? (Is there a bot, or a script for instance?) For instance, one imagines that there might be some who are listed on the inactive list who may in fact be active, and of course, vice versa. I only ask, because I am considering sending out a mass message for the MHOTY nominations/voting and intend using the active list as the source for delivery purposes. Cheers, AustralianRupert ( talk) 23:55, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Just FYI, I've changed Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review/Instructions to tell nominators to contact the coords if they want to nominate an article for its second ACR. This isn't something that happens very often and I've seen people struggle with it, so telling them to contact us seems like the best option, and we can move the existing review for them (those of us who are admins can do it without leaving a redirect, which should allow the "initiate nomination" link to work properly). IF anyone strongly disagrees with me, feel free to revert. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:49, 8 December 2017 (UTC)