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An obvious hoax I came across which somehow had a BLP tag slapped on it for being unsourced!: "Aditya Sheorayan is the captain of the Indian Cricket team. He is best known for his world record innings of 8474 not out of just 912 balls. Sheorayan is a batting all-rounder, but he also has the worlds best bowling average: 892 wickets @ 6.12. Although he is only 10 years old, he has played 52 tests, 112 ODIs, and 47 T20 Internationals, and is already recognised as the greatest ever player, by ESPNcricinfo." Guess this kid has been playing since he was 5??? Haha. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 17:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I'm most impressed by his scoring rate of over 9 runs per ball. :) JH ( talk page) 20:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Disappointed by his wickets per match across all formats though. Obviously a Kallis of sorts. Awesome at one thing, just good at the other! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 21:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply

And we don't have an article on him? Come on guys, this is supposed to be a comprehensive coverage of cricket for Wikipedia - in fact it probably even says this on the main project page somewhere. I question your dedication and am referring it to Jimbo. S.G.^(GH) _ping! 21:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Can't understand how much runs would he have piled by the current age of Sachin! e^xtra999 ( talk) 09:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I'd like to know the minimum criteria for having a separate list for "List of international cricket five-wicket hauls". For centuries I guess the figure is 25. What should be the number for the bowling lists. — Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 11:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC) reply

It was loosely defined as 15 if I remember correctly, that's the number used in the template. — Spaceman Spiff 13:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Members of this Project may have a view on this discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Community_ban_proposal_for_editor_Richard_Daft -- Dweller ( talk) 22:00, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Was Daft not already banned as it was??? Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 17:23, 16 May 2012 (UTC) reply

No. Previously, he was blocked. -- Dweller ( talk) 17:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Never realised there was a difference lol. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 18:09, 16 May 2012 (UTC) reply

See Wikipedia:Banning policy. S.G.^(GH) _ping! 11:10, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

As I've said to Dweller in an e-mail, you will not get rid of this idiot until the site realises that "anyone can edit" is in the past. You need "anyone can join" now, subject to probation, because QUALITY has superseded quantity with the site's growing maturity. Otherwise you're stuck with idiots like that for evermore. Who is going to police his ongoing IP edits? By the way, I intend to return when business interests allow as I'd like to revise all the early cricket articles according to current site standards. So, message to the troll, I'll be back. ---- Jack | ^{talk page} 21:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

For your information ... Mattinbgn ( talk) 07:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

This is interesting as I asked a few weeks ago about cricket task forces and was told there are none. Should this be one? -- Brian ( talk) 09:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

If there are users with a common interest who'll work on it, why not? Personally, I find 20:20 to be like baseball (can be mildly exciting, can be dull, but it isn't cricket) but I appreciate that highly-paid men with ponytails working for big corporations rather think I may be in the minority. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:36, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Perhaps I don't think you are in a minority, at least, at this place, if you take a look at the contributors. I have till now came to the conclusion that this is a very disciplined community, even compared to other WikiProjects. I sense that we mostly have the same voice as you. Though, if we come to the real world, I find this roughly divided in two, one the older-experienced men who understand this is a money-making factory. And the other, the fanatical youth interested in their stars and the craze. I'm in my teens, an Indian boy, this is very evident in my circle of friends (I was too interested some five years back, but growing up, the picture gets clearer). As for this project, you are right this can exist, having the support base.But, most of the participants are the Indian youth, who rarely show up on this page. extra999 ( talk) 14:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Andy Carroll? -- Brian ( talk) 13:12, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

That's a very small corporation. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I've yet to see the IPL project have much impact. It had one failed GA nomination, and of the two editors involved one didn't respond to comments on the talk page while the other was unable to accept criticism. While inexperienced editors may make premature nominations, I don't see any evidence either learned from the experience. It currently has about ten members, and while I imagine that could increase it seems more of a fan page than aimed at improving articles as demonstrated by the plethora of userboxes listed on the project page so people can show which team they support. Unless something changes, the project will peter out without having really impacted the encyclopedia. Nev1 ( talk) 14:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

That's what I keep hoping about 20:20. -- Dweller ( talk) 15:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I agree. Is it here to stay or a nine-day (okay, nine-year) wonder? -- Brian ( talk) 18:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

That's my issue as well. extra999 ( talk) 06:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

On about Twenty20, has anybody read the Twenty20#Origins section of the article. Most of it is unsourced and comes out with some odd claims (as if 5 overs per-side would be considered), and some other random stuff about Pakistan and Afridi and Razzaq. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 16:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I've had a go at cleaning it up. The article still leaves a lot to be desired, but it now doesn't imply twenty20s were developed for the benefit of Afridi and Razzak. Nev1 ( talk) 18:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Congratulations on your A-HOLE award For being the biggest cretin on wikipedia, one who blatantly has no life. A sad individual, bitter at his failure to enlighten the world to his ego, Daft (or whatever form he may take) trolls this site, spewing his shit in a vain attempt to make a point. Many words can be used to describe the one who is honoured with his word, but perhaps two can be used for what he should do: fuck off. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I brought this up earlier, the main concern I had was the effect it would have on conventions and style guides as this is not a task force but a separate wikiproject. Also, it's not just the core IPL articles but our bios such as Kevin Pietersen etc that have been folded into the new project. As far as task forces, it's not all difficult if we have interested people, the women's work force has a couple of GA's and a few FLs with a coverage that rivals ESPNcricinfo's! As long as this new thing results in improving article quality and not just adds to the workload with drive-by GA/FA/FL noms, it should be ok (Chennai Super Kings has had at least three FA noms and a GA nom).— Spaceman Spiff 04:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

The actual idea of the project was to improve the articles related to IPL so that they can be nominated for GA(or FA or FL) someday.We are still in the preliminary stage as we are still assessing the articles. Thanks! Strike Eagle ^✈ 13:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

And it's a interest to more than 10 people; you cant forcibly delete it. Why are you looking over our project? We are a totally independent project; and we even did not ask any help from you guys. Dipankan ^{( Have a chat?)} 13:05, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Relax Dipankan.....They won't delete the project without a consensus and without a valid reason.We have to prove the value of the project so that no concerns can be raised. Strike Eagle ^✈ 13:58, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I hate Twenty20 but I don't see any reason why a project should be canned just because people like me don't like the subject. I hated chemistry at school but I fully support a chemistry project on WP. I think there should be cricket projects about county cricket, Test cricket, Yorkshire (but not Lancashire), the more the merrier. ---- Jack | ^{talk page} 22:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I'm not a cricket fan myself but still feel that this is no reason for deletion. IPL is one of the biggest things in India, big enough for film houses to hold back film releases, it has had it's fair share of controversies as well. What I do agree with is that this shouldn't be a WikiProject per se, but should be a Task force under one. That I'm confused about as I don't know whther it should come under India or Cricket. -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 08:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

It's no doubt that it comes under cricket. It has a very wide international coverage and is more importance to the subject of cricket than India. extra999 ( talk) 13:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces has some info on task forces. Given the almost 100% overlap of IPL articles with the Cricket project, I think it should be a task force, rather than a project. It might lead to some other task forces being made too - 23k articles is a lot for a single project (and I admit I didn't know the women's cricket tf existed). The-Pope ( talk) 14:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

No one has suggested deleting WP:IPL, so lets can this alarmism. Nev1 ( talk) 16:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Second post in the topic says it should be deleted. -- Brian ( talk) 18:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

So it does. No one else has agreed though. This should not be a them versus us situation. Nev1 ( talk) 18:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Could an admin semi-protect Luke Pomersbach? He's got himself in a little bit of trouble and a few IPs are embellishing the story... Hack ( talk) 11:07, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected for a week. Nev1 ( talk) 11:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks for that. Hack ( talk) 11:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

We had no article on the debutant, so I just created a bare minimum stub. C'mon guys, dive in, the water's lovely and DYK beckons. -- Dweller ( talk) 11:29, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

"Did you know... that in the 1st Test between England and the West Indies, the West Indies gave a debut to another sorry looking seamer". Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 15:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

A bit harsh! He looks okay to me. Not everyone is a Vernon Philander! Harrias ^talk 17:16, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

At least he seems moderately better than Brandon Bess I suppose! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 17:35, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

At least they're trying out a new player. I find it a a bit surprising that a couple of people, including Michael Vaughan I think, have been suggesting Tino Best should be playing. He's tried, tested, and failed at the highest level (28 wickets at 48.67 in Tests) and recalling him would be a backwards step. It would be as if Pakistan recalled Mohammad Sami to the Test squ- oh never mind. Nev1 ( talk) 18:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Perhaps Best deserves a second chance to break the windows? If only to try that again! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 19:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

According to reports, Gabriel was able to step in at short notice when Rampaul was unfit because he was already in this country as he was playing for Barrow. However according to this newspaper article, that would seem not to be totally accurate. JH ( talk page) 20:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I don't know where they got that from, as Gabriel's been in the West Indies squad from the day it was announced. Nev1 ( talk) 20:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Ah, then perhaps it's I who misinterpreted what I heard. JH ( talk page) 20:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC) reply

He had rave reviews on TMS from his first ball. And those are very nice first innings figures against a dominant team on their home patch. -- Dweller ( talk) 22:33, 19 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Perhaps Tino will get the chance to smash some windows afterall... odd selection, perhaps sadly shows the depth, or lack of, that exists in WI cricket these days. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 16:20, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Could someone review the following AfC submissions?

• Harshad Khadiwale
• Anustup Majumdar
• Robin Bist
• Bhargav Bhatt

Thanks 117.198.105.101 ( talk) 00:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Done. As you are creating quite a few articles, you could consider opening an account as it'll ease this process.— Spaceman Spiff 08:48, 19 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Two articles on Wikipedia, KP Appanna and Kotragada Appanna are about the same cricketer KP Appanna. I feel that the latter needs to be deleted, since KP Appanna is more systematically written. Fenopy ( talk) 21:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I know I created the initial article, back in 2008. Feel free to merge and consolidate. Hope all are well. Bobo . 23:41, 19 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Found one more cricketer having two articles- Vinay Kumar and Ranganath Vinay Kumar.. Fenopy ( talk) 20:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply

SGGH has redirected the latter. extra999 ( talk) 02:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Regarding Appanna, which is the correct spelling of his first name. It is spelt Kotragada on CricketArchive and Kotarangada on ESPNcricinfo. Hack ( talk) 06:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Anyways, I have redirected Kotragada Appanna because KP article has the same information as it, and as Fenopy pointed out more systematically written. extra999 ( talk) 06:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the help guys. Cheers. Fenopy ( talk) 16:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I am attempting to put the finishing touches on this article for a GA nom in the near future, and would like to know if this community would have better knowledge of this man's cricket career. Any help would be appreciated. Neonblak ^talk - 16:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

There are three scorecards from his career on CricketArchive, including one for the US national side alongside baseball hall of farmers Harry and George Wright, so there isn't much to go on there. I'll try and do something in the next few days though. Andrew nixon ( talk) 05:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you, I got a note on my talk page as well. If someone had the interest and time to take on the Cricket sections of Harry and George, that would be great. Expanding and ultimately trying to promote any of these articles is most likely going to take cross-project teamwork, unless someone knows both sports really well, and in the case of George, probably tennis and golf :) Neonblak ^talk - 08:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Expanding the cricket content of George Wright's article is certainly on my to-do list. He's actually the only person to have played Major League Baseball and first-class cricket. His cricket career is more significant than Creighton's, with much more information available, so that'd be quite a big task. I might look at it when I have a few days off work next month. Andrew nixon ( talk) 08:49, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

A user calling themselves JohnLeachismymate seems to have embarked on a campaign of vandalism against articles to which Blackjack has contributed, inserting gratuitous references to "John Leach" and "Jim Hardie". See Special:Contributions/JohnLeachismymate. I think we can guess who it's likely to be. I don't know what the required procedure is in such cases, so I will leave any action to someone who does. JH ( talk page) 17:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Isn't it fairly obvious that it's the same person discussed a few sections above? Is there an SPI for this? — Spaceman Spiff 17:38, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Looks like a Daft, swims like a Daft, and quacks like a Daft, then it probably is... yep, we know who it is!!! I've added this new sock to an ongoing SPI. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 17:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I saw one of these obvious vandalism-only accounts earlier today and reported it to WP:ANI. It was deleted only a few minutes later. I've added this one too but wonder now if I've duplicated things? Sorry, I didn't realise the purpose of the SPI process. -- Brian ( talk) 19:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Nah, that won't cause any duplications. Seems someone actioned your report and slapped a final warning on User talk:JohnLeachismymate for vandalism. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 19:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

I've blocked and noted on the SPI. I've also watchlisted the SPI. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 19:27, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks. I'll get the hang of it. -- Brian ( talk) 19:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC) reply

What a poor, pathetic sad life this individual leads. Does he really have nothing better to do? Andrew nixon ( talk) 08:58, 24 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Like extra999 ( talk) 08:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC) reply

• 2005 English cricket season (8–30 April) ( AfD discussion)

It's a bulk nomination for all of that season's articles, not just that one. Uncle G ( talk) 13:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but is there a specific reason for the 2005 season to be split like this? The main article 2005 English cricket season is quite good and summarizes things at an encyclopaedic level, similar to the other years. — Spaceman Spiff 13:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC) reply

It was very much the thought at the time that individual seasons were too large to be accommodated in one article, and a couple of then-prolific contributors (two of the most influential people in getting this whole project off the ground) did a lot of work on the 2005 season articles. By the time the 2006 season rolled around, their attentions had been diverted elsewhere and no one else picked up the gauntlet (for understandable reasons). They are a bit anomalous among our other coverage, though they don't do much harm either in my view. Johnlp ( talk) 14:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)Congratulations on your A-HOLE award reply

For being the biggest cretin on wikipedia, one who blatantly has no life. A sad individual, bitter at his failure to enlighten the world to his ego, Daft (or whatever form he may take) trolls this site, spewing his shit in a vain attempt to make a point. Many words can be used to describe the one who is honoured with his word, but perhaps two can be used for what he should do: fuck off. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I turned up long after these articles were created, by a Norwegian guy if I'm correct? They don't cause any harm, but I think it's an AfD with a pleasant outcome for the articles. Looking at this list mentioned in the AfD, reminds me of the days the minor counties look part in one-day matches... ah those were the days! Sad they were excluded. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 16:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Dafts back.... *sighs* Howzat?Out!Out!Out! ( talk) 16:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Congratulations on your A-HOLE award For being the biggest cretin on wikipedia, one who blatantly has no life. A sad individual, bitter at his failure to enlighten the world to his ego, Daft (or whatever form he may take) trolls this site, spewing his shit in a vain attempt to make a point. Many words can be used to describe the one who is honoured with his word, but perhaps two can be used for what he should do: fuck off. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)