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Hi, I ran a short task with MartinBotII, by way of testing, to add the WikiProject Military History peer reviews to the list. The bot was then reverted and the peer reviews removed. Now, I was under the impression that it was OK for us to list the peer reviews like this, and that there would be no change for WP:PR. Perhaps the problem was the sheer number of reviews added, or perhaps there are other process which take issue with this method. I was wopndering where we go from here? M a rtinp23 09:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I am confused, between A and GA, what is better? Please advise. Regards, Ganeshk ( talk) 00:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe you should just merge A and GA. Just H 01:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I am just wondering, do you need to be a GA article in order to get to A. We are having a discussion on it on the comics rating page. Phoenix741 17:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Currently there are a number of Space-related wikiprojects (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Space/Projects for a list including number of members), and i thought it may be a good idea to somehow join them into Wikipedia:WikiProject Space, and divide them up as different task forces; the problem is, i don't know how conceivable this idea is.. 15 wikiprojects is a lot to merge, so it seems like a lot of work. what do you think the first step in this direction would be? start contacting them one at a time, saying "hey, do you guys wanna become a task force??" Mlm42 17:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
great, thanks for the input! i think, though, articles like Space are likely too broad, and the projects should be restricted to outer space.. but i have realised that even still, astrology would fall under that blanket. Mlm42 09:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
A single purpose account User:TriviaGood has created a project ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia) to protest a real project ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia Cleanup). This seems to me to not only violate WP:POINT but to be at cross purposes with WP:AVTRIV, WP:TRIVIA, WP:V, WP:OR, WP:WAF, and WP:EPISODE. I've tagged it prod for speedy delete but I'm not sure if that is the proper way to go about it. Would someone be so kind as to give me a little direction here. Thanks and cheers. L0b0t 22:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Do normal article naming rules apply to WikiProjects? Would, for example, a "WikiProject Giant Robots and Colossal Monsters" be a bad idea? (Not the concept, the capitalization!) - ryan d 15:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
just something to point out. I don't think it is such a good idea in the template to use User:Name as an example as they have been blocked indefinately for vandalism a while ago. Simply south 20:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Kusma, a highly-regarded (by me, anyway) admin and right now the driving force behind WikiProject Germany, has asked me if there is any way to set up a project banner so that it can display two different "Importance" rankings, on for the parent project and one for the newly-created Mainz task force. Personally, I don't know if it can be done, and certainly don't know how to do it. If anyone does, I would be fawningly grateful for the information. :) Badbilltucker 17:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It has recently occurred to me just how many projects are out there, and how we might be facing either direct conflicts between projects and other wikipedia content issues, and might be better able to coordinate activity so that content and related issues could be more harmoniously handled. On that basis, I have today created what is probably a truly goofy proposal at User:Badbilltucker/Internal organization structure regarding how I think we might be able to address some of these concerns. As stated there, I welcome any responses, and recongize up front that the majority of them may well be on the negative side. Please criticize it or praise it as fully as you wish. Thank you. Badbilltucker 14:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What about this for vague and controversial? More actively integrating descendant WikiProjects into parent ones as task forces. I don't know if this is completely doable (ie - making every TV show-centric WP into a task force for WP Television), but in other cases such as the multiple clinical medicine projects, it might be for the best. On the other hand, having task forces for individual shows within WP TV probably isn't a bad thing either, as the task force page can more or less function identically to the current WP page.
The only difference is that integrating projects as task forces under a larger project allows there to be more editorial and stylistic consistency, as well as preventing projects with similar types of content having to re-invent the wheel when project-wide or supra-project issues may occur. For example, the various Film WikiProjects ultimately are expected to conform to the style guidelines set down by WikiProject Films. What does being a WikiProject allow them which being a task force of WP Films does not? As a task force, they can still have their own pages and largely their own autonomy, while being connected to a larger resource of people (thus advertising their task force's work better).
I submit that we should consider actively promoting more WP migration to task forces. It also increases the membership of the larger projects, which (hopefully) will allow them to become stronger and more useful. We don't need more or less WikiProjects, but we can certainly use more excellent ones! Girolamo Savonarola 19:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we should create a place of discussion for small Wikiprojects merging into parent WikiPorjects. Maybe like WP:RM. Nautica Shad e s 07:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Do wikiprojects have the authority to set guidelines for articles within their subject area? Assuming they do, can they set guidelines that are exceptions to, or in conflict with overall wikipedia guidelines? -- Milo H Minderbinder 17:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I would opine that WikiProjects establish conventions rather than guidelines. If these conventions are in contradiction to the MoS, then the MoS should trump them, unless they decide to bring the conventions to MoS as a proposal. This isn't particularly uncommon. Girolamo Savonarola 18:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Where I've seen a few problems is not with the style and formatting of articles, but with individual WikiProjects wanting to go their own way with templates, categorizdation, etc. One topic that seems to get rehashed occasionally is the relationship between the Stub-Sorting WikiProject and other WikiProjects. I haven't seen any problems lately, but I haven't paid that much attention to the WSS lately. Blank Verse 12:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I think Wikipedians who are interested in WikiProject Council will also be interested in creating a similar things for Learning projects in Wikiversity. Join us in Wikiversity. Srinivasasha 02:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
So, what do we want to do with this page? Last time I checked, I thought we were going to do an internal newsletter (a la WP:MILHIST, WP:BEATLES and WP:WPTC) but it seems that the page was created as part of a dispute currently on WP:RFM. So, do you guys want to start an internal newsletter? What content should we have, if we decide to have one? Tito xd( ?!?) 01:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Since many wikiprojects are releasing newsletters G-hits, wouldn't it be a good idea to gather them all to one page (say under WikiProject Council). This would help outsiders (relative to the project) to see what's going on with wikiprojects, and maybe get them interested in some projects. The page could be a overview of new newsletters published in one month (or depending on the volume). Usable idea? Doable? Ideas? feydey 03:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
For the newsletter collection to work best, I would think we want to ensure that each of the larger projects, and maybe most of the smaller ones, have a member or two who are specifically requested to add updates to it. To do so, these people would probably be optimally members of the Council. Does anyone think we should try to actively recruit such members from as many projects as possible? Badbilltucker 22:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been looking at categories more closely recently. Today, I decided that there are a lot articles that would be more easily navigated if we developed a Sports family hierarchy (in Category:Families). I have started to fill in what I could not find out there in the section that follows: User:TonyTheTiger#Categories_Created. Can you tell me if anyone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Sports would be interested in getting involved in Sports family categorization or if there is a good way to proceed in such an endeavor.
Hi, my bot PockBot has recently been authorised for use. It is a tool I developed primarily with a view to helping wikiproject members better manage parts of their project.
The bot runs for any given category and returns a list of all articles in that category, as well as the current status of each article (ie FA, stub, start etc). I hope the potential benefit of this bot is clear in helping those trying to keep tabs on the status of articles within categories relevant to their wikiprojects. For example, for the wiki military history project, classical warfare task group, the bot ran a list of every article under the category (and all sub-categories) of Category:Military of ancient Rome.
I am not sure of the correct and efficient to publicise the availability of this bot to help out wikiproject members. Can anyone advise? - PocklingtonDan 10:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created Template:Subprojects for use on WikiProjects pages. How should I tell them? It looks like this:
Archive 4 Work in Progress: | Insert subprojects here. edit · history · watch · refresh |
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Insert subprojects here. |
Adam Cuerden talk 01:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Weel, the project I made it for wanted something to expand functionality of the Template:to do (Wikipedia) they were using, so I gave them this and a auto-updating monthly project banner in the same style (with a talk-page interface for setting up the next few projects. Thought it might be useful for other medium-sized projects. Adam Cuerden talk 18:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I accidentally posted this to the directory subpage as well. Sorry. Is it possible, or a good idea, to create a Top Ten or Twenty list of Wikiprojects? My recent efforts on WP:LGBT have been fuelled mainly by what I could find on WP:BIO, WP:MILHIST, and WP:COMICS, because these are the ones I saw mentioned as being amongst the biggest and most successful projects. A list of the largest projects would surely be useful to founders of fledgling projects looking to expand. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 11:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
These are all fine and good, but as this will have to be somewhat subjective at the end of the day, let's not dance around it. Why not simply list projects by consensus agreement of WP Council members that they are good example projects? At least then we can cite the nomination and support (or lack thereof) and debate each project being added on a case-by-case basis. Isn't that the wiki way? :) Girolamo Savonarola 09:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking something more akin to featured status (though not equivalent) - simply that projects can be nom'd and also denom'd at will, and chosen by group consensus. The major difference would be that it would solely be a mark of distinction, and therefore there would be no comments or suggestions - a project either would be regarded as exemplary or not. And of course, this could always be rescinded should someone de-nominate it. The only intention here is to collate the projects which best serve as examples for up and coming WikiProjects. As projects are constantly in flux (and are expected to be), a non-equivalence to featured status needs to be emphasized. Keeping this to a limited and practical number is therefore important. Girolamo Savonarola 19:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd found Template:CatDiscuss and Template:CatMaintain and (aside from they seem to be named backwards) wasn't entirely happy with them for WProj purposes. So for your WikiProjectifying pleasure:
These can come in handy for when your project is overhauling a messy bunch of categories, or if people keep doing boneheaded things in them even after you've cleaned it up. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 12:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Should an actor have a project banner with class/importance ratings? I was thinking no, because then some pages would be completely cluttered with banners, but then I've come across some actor articles with them. Thanks, RHB 22:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've revived WikiProject Climbing over at WP:CLIMBING. However it's a relatively broad topic and I have never created a wikiproject before so I could use some help on the technical aspect of things. If anyone has some free time (bwahaha, no really), I'd appreciate it if you stopped by and lent a hand. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 11:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
(1) Did you mean bi-monthly or semi-monthly collaboration? It's hard to tell from the text. Bi-monthly generally means every two months, semi-monthly twice a month.
(2) You might want to list the project on
Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals before you start the project in earnest, maybe waiting for at least five members to join. That's generally enough to indicate that the project would be viable.
(3) There are a variety of other suggestions available in the
WikiProject Guide, which was written by the developers of the more successful projects in wikipedia. It would probably be a very good idea to review it and see if any of the suggestions included could be applied to your project.
That's about all I can think of. I hope anyone who thinks of anything else feels free to add their comments as well.
Badbilltucker 14:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know that this has kind of been addressed above. But I noticed that User:Nathannoblet recently created an "alternative" to the Signpost. It really hasn't gotten much support, and was in fact nominated for deletion. But it did make me think of the idea of a single, unitary, project update notice. If you look at them all, many/most of the individual project newsletters begin to look more or less the same after a while. Does anyone think it might be a good idea to perhaps issue one regular "Project Post" (or whatever) which would discuss the major developments in all of the projects collectively. The things that I think would most likely be included would be the featured and good content raised up over the past month, the new projects and task forces developed in the past month, one or a few articles about certain specific projects, and a kind of letters/open forum section. Maybe it could be constructed along the lines of an average portal. I think that doing so would have a few advantages:
Anyway, any and all feedback would be more than welcome. Badbilltucker 13:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone oppose to that? I want to also organize out the specific field of every participants, so that it makes easier for anyone that want to seek specific assistance in a area. AQu01rius ( User • Talk) 18:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
See my query on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject proposal.
Simply south 16:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Zora is accusing my bot to be a nationalist bot. Please find her post at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Nationalistic_bot. All the bot did was to auto-tag "Stub" class and add Indian cinema project tag (a project she started) to Indian actor pages. I have tried to explain many times in the past on why talk page tagging helps with WP:1 and also helps assess the quality of articles. But she does not seem to understand it a bit. I would really appreciate if someone from this project, please comment at WP:ANI and help explain this to her. Thanks, Ganeshk ( talk) 00:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Has it ever been considered to create a new namespace for WikiProjects? Or "reuse" the Project: namespace (which is synonymous with the Wikipedia: namespace) and drop the WikiProject prefix? I believe shorter titles are better (for example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science would become Project:Computer science.) — Ruud 13:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me what's the point in those comment subpages that can be found on many WikiProject banners (like this and this)? These templates say that people should comment on the article ratings and its quality, which is good, of course. But they are directed to a /comments-subpage of the talk page, which doesn't make any sense to me. Why should we create a new subpage to say what someone thinks of the article, instead of using the article's talk page? This just seems to create a second talk page for an article, it seems. -- Conti| ✉ 18:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I do like the idea of maybe issuing only one overall project newsletter per month or two, maybe something a bit more detailed and changing than many of the current newsletters, given their size and scope, may often be. It would also probably involve less man-hours in the development of just one such newsletter. Would anyone be willing to maybe help create and produce such a newsletter? I guess I see it basically introducing the new projects, maybe with descriptions of them, and maybe some centralized discussion of how to deal with new proposed or contemplated projects or workgroups. That last part might be particularly appealing, as it could help prevent creation of new projects which only get abandoned or deleted for lack of support shortly later. Badbilltucker 19:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Some articles are beginning to fall under the scope of many different WikiProjects. This is creating a very long list of templates above the TOC on the articles talk page (see talk for an example). Would it be possible to develop some sort of javascript dropdown that can contain all the WikiProject banners? I've seen previous discussion regarding combining all the templates into one meta-template at the top but I know that is impractical. I believe a javascript drop down similiar to one that is included on many WikiProject banners is sufficient.-- NMajdan• talk 14:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
For example
I think the whole criteria should change. Lists and some templates and categories could be highly important to the understanding of a particular subject yet they are not given a rating properly other than "list", "template" or "category", as though of minor importance.
I suggest it should be different
For example
I am not relating to any specific article or so on. Simply south 13:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Simply south 16:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Since you've displayed the TWP banner, I might as well pop in here too. {{ TrainsWikiProject}} understands class=list now (which is used on a very limited number of articles now), but it will display similar to class=NA (shown above) and suppress the importance rating display. I've been generally taking an approach similar to the FA criteria when rating articles for quality and usually don't put a rating above Start unless the prose is more than half of the entire article. I don't foresee anyone proposing a Good lists process yet, but we do have Featured lists. It doesn't matter much to me if we want to include an importance rating for lists; such an update will actually simplify the TWP banner code a little (I don't know about the other banners, but it's one less class parameter value that needs special treatment for TWP). Slambo (Speak) 19:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
The Religion project has just created a Left Hand Path task force. I'm trying to adjust the {{ WPReligion}} banner to accomodate, and getting no luck. The basic founder of the group has requested this image be added to the tab for the work group. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Badbilltucker 01:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Is anything happening with
the exemplar projects? I'd like more successful WikiProjects to nick ideas from examine for inspiration.
Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if I could get the approval from the council to move the project to WikiProject Assyria, as me and User:Nareklm have decided to include everything about Assyria in the project, and not just people. Chaldean 20:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I and another user have expressed concern about the apparent entry condition for WikiProject Rational Skepticism. Other projects are open to everyone. WikiProject Christianity, for example, is not a project for Christians, but a project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Christianity. WikiProject Paranormal is not a project for believers in the paranormal, but a project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the paranormal. WikiProject Rational Skepticism, in contrast, casts itself as "the central hub for Skeptical Wikipedians to get together and work on improving Wikipedia" and seeks to "serve as a nexus and discussion area for skeptically-inclined contributors". The members emphasized in response to our concerns that their goal is to improve Wikipedia, but are project entry conditions an appropriate way to do so? Tim Smith 02:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
comments please -- Larry laptop 00:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Is there anyone currently writing the guide, or attempts to organise it? Shall I just start writing some parts? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 13:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | → | Archive 10 |
Hi, I ran a short task with MartinBotII, by way of testing, to add the WikiProject Military History peer reviews to the list. The bot was then reverted and the peer reviews removed. Now, I was under the impression that it was OK for us to list the peer reviews like this, and that there would be no change for WP:PR. Perhaps the problem was the sheer number of reviews added, or perhaps there are other process which take issue with this method. I was wopndering where we go from here? M a rtinp23 09:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I am confused, between A and GA, what is better? Please advise. Regards, Ganeshk ( talk) 00:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe you should just merge A and GA. Just H 01:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I am just wondering, do you need to be a GA article in order to get to A. We are having a discussion on it on the comics rating page. Phoenix741 17:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Currently there are a number of Space-related wikiprojects (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Space/Projects for a list including number of members), and i thought it may be a good idea to somehow join them into Wikipedia:WikiProject Space, and divide them up as different task forces; the problem is, i don't know how conceivable this idea is.. 15 wikiprojects is a lot to merge, so it seems like a lot of work. what do you think the first step in this direction would be? start contacting them one at a time, saying "hey, do you guys wanna become a task force??" Mlm42 17:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
great, thanks for the input! i think, though, articles like Space are likely too broad, and the projects should be restricted to outer space.. but i have realised that even still, astrology would fall under that blanket. Mlm42 09:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
A single purpose account User:TriviaGood has created a project ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia) to protest a real project ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia Cleanup). This seems to me to not only violate WP:POINT but to be at cross purposes with WP:AVTRIV, WP:TRIVIA, WP:V, WP:OR, WP:WAF, and WP:EPISODE. I've tagged it prod for speedy delete but I'm not sure if that is the proper way to go about it. Would someone be so kind as to give me a little direction here. Thanks and cheers. L0b0t 22:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Do normal article naming rules apply to WikiProjects? Would, for example, a "WikiProject Giant Robots and Colossal Monsters" be a bad idea? (Not the concept, the capitalization!) - ryan d 15:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
just something to point out. I don't think it is such a good idea in the template to use User:Name as an example as they have been blocked indefinately for vandalism a while ago. Simply south 20:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Kusma, a highly-regarded (by me, anyway) admin and right now the driving force behind WikiProject Germany, has asked me if there is any way to set up a project banner so that it can display two different "Importance" rankings, on for the parent project and one for the newly-created Mainz task force. Personally, I don't know if it can be done, and certainly don't know how to do it. If anyone does, I would be fawningly grateful for the information. :) Badbilltucker 17:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
It has recently occurred to me just how many projects are out there, and how we might be facing either direct conflicts between projects and other wikipedia content issues, and might be better able to coordinate activity so that content and related issues could be more harmoniously handled. On that basis, I have today created what is probably a truly goofy proposal at User:Badbilltucker/Internal organization structure regarding how I think we might be able to address some of these concerns. As stated there, I welcome any responses, and recongize up front that the majority of them may well be on the negative side. Please criticize it or praise it as fully as you wish. Thank you. Badbilltucker 14:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What about this for vague and controversial? More actively integrating descendant WikiProjects into parent ones as task forces. I don't know if this is completely doable (ie - making every TV show-centric WP into a task force for WP Television), but in other cases such as the multiple clinical medicine projects, it might be for the best. On the other hand, having task forces for individual shows within WP TV probably isn't a bad thing either, as the task force page can more or less function identically to the current WP page.
The only difference is that integrating projects as task forces under a larger project allows there to be more editorial and stylistic consistency, as well as preventing projects with similar types of content having to re-invent the wheel when project-wide or supra-project issues may occur. For example, the various Film WikiProjects ultimately are expected to conform to the style guidelines set down by WikiProject Films. What does being a WikiProject allow them which being a task force of WP Films does not? As a task force, they can still have their own pages and largely their own autonomy, while being connected to a larger resource of people (thus advertising their task force's work better).
I submit that we should consider actively promoting more WP migration to task forces. It also increases the membership of the larger projects, which (hopefully) will allow them to become stronger and more useful. We don't need more or less WikiProjects, but we can certainly use more excellent ones! Girolamo Savonarola 19:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we should create a place of discussion for small Wikiprojects merging into parent WikiPorjects. Maybe like WP:RM. Nautica Shad e s 07:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Do wikiprojects have the authority to set guidelines for articles within their subject area? Assuming they do, can they set guidelines that are exceptions to, or in conflict with overall wikipedia guidelines? -- Milo H Minderbinder 17:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I would opine that WikiProjects establish conventions rather than guidelines. If these conventions are in contradiction to the MoS, then the MoS should trump them, unless they decide to bring the conventions to MoS as a proposal. This isn't particularly uncommon. Girolamo Savonarola 18:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Where I've seen a few problems is not with the style and formatting of articles, but with individual WikiProjects wanting to go their own way with templates, categorizdation, etc. One topic that seems to get rehashed occasionally is the relationship between the Stub-Sorting WikiProject and other WikiProjects. I haven't seen any problems lately, but I haven't paid that much attention to the WSS lately. Blank Verse 12:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I think Wikipedians who are interested in WikiProject Council will also be interested in creating a similar things for Learning projects in Wikiversity. Join us in Wikiversity. Srinivasasha 02:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
So, what do we want to do with this page? Last time I checked, I thought we were going to do an internal newsletter (a la WP:MILHIST, WP:BEATLES and WP:WPTC) but it seems that the page was created as part of a dispute currently on WP:RFM. So, do you guys want to start an internal newsletter? What content should we have, if we decide to have one? Tito xd( ?!?) 01:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Since many wikiprojects are releasing newsletters G-hits, wouldn't it be a good idea to gather them all to one page (say under WikiProject Council). This would help outsiders (relative to the project) to see what's going on with wikiprojects, and maybe get them interested in some projects. The page could be a overview of new newsletters published in one month (or depending on the volume). Usable idea? Doable? Ideas? feydey 03:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
For the newsletter collection to work best, I would think we want to ensure that each of the larger projects, and maybe most of the smaller ones, have a member or two who are specifically requested to add updates to it. To do so, these people would probably be optimally members of the Council. Does anyone think we should try to actively recruit such members from as many projects as possible? Badbilltucker 22:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been looking at categories more closely recently. Today, I decided that there are a lot articles that would be more easily navigated if we developed a Sports family hierarchy (in Category:Families). I have started to fill in what I could not find out there in the section that follows: User:TonyTheTiger#Categories_Created. Can you tell me if anyone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Sports would be interested in getting involved in Sports family categorization or if there is a good way to proceed in such an endeavor.
Hi, my bot PockBot has recently been authorised for use. It is a tool I developed primarily with a view to helping wikiproject members better manage parts of their project.
The bot runs for any given category and returns a list of all articles in that category, as well as the current status of each article (ie FA, stub, start etc). I hope the potential benefit of this bot is clear in helping those trying to keep tabs on the status of articles within categories relevant to their wikiprojects. For example, for the wiki military history project, classical warfare task group, the bot ran a list of every article under the category (and all sub-categories) of Category:Military of ancient Rome.
I am not sure of the correct and efficient to publicise the availability of this bot to help out wikiproject members. Can anyone advise? - PocklingtonDan 10:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created Template:Subprojects for use on WikiProjects pages. How should I tell them? It looks like this:
Archive 4 Work in Progress: | Insert subprojects here. edit · history · watch · refresh |
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Insert subprojects here. |
Adam Cuerden talk 01:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Weel, the project I made it for wanted something to expand functionality of the Template:to do (Wikipedia) they were using, so I gave them this and a auto-updating monthly project banner in the same style (with a talk-page interface for setting up the next few projects. Thought it might be useful for other medium-sized projects. Adam Cuerden talk 18:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I accidentally posted this to the directory subpage as well. Sorry. Is it possible, or a good idea, to create a Top Ten or Twenty list of Wikiprojects? My recent efforts on WP:LGBT have been fuelled mainly by what I could find on WP:BIO, WP:MILHIST, and WP:COMICS, because these are the ones I saw mentioned as being amongst the biggest and most successful projects. A list of the largest projects would surely be useful to founders of fledgling projects looking to expand. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 11:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
These are all fine and good, but as this will have to be somewhat subjective at the end of the day, let's not dance around it. Why not simply list projects by consensus agreement of WP Council members that they are good example projects? At least then we can cite the nomination and support (or lack thereof) and debate each project being added on a case-by-case basis. Isn't that the wiki way? :) Girolamo Savonarola 09:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking something more akin to featured status (though not equivalent) - simply that projects can be nom'd and also denom'd at will, and chosen by group consensus. The major difference would be that it would solely be a mark of distinction, and therefore there would be no comments or suggestions - a project either would be regarded as exemplary or not. And of course, this could always be rescinded should someone de-nominate it. The only intention here is to collate the projects which best serve as examples for up and coming WikiProjects. As projects are constantly in flux (and are expected to be), a non-equivalence to featured status needs to be emphasized. Keeping this to a limited and practical number is therefore important. Girolamo Savonarola 19:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd found Template:CatDiscuss and Template:CatMaintain and (aside from they seem to be named backwards) wasn't entirely happy with them for WProj purposes. So for your WikiProjectifying pleasure:
These can come in handy for when your project is overhauling a messy bunch of categories, or if people keep doing boneheaded things in them even after you've cleaned it up. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 12:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Should an actor have a project banner with class/importance ratings? I was thinking no, because then some pages would be completely cluttered with banners, but then I've come across some actor articles with them. Thanks, RHB 22:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've revived WikiProject Climbing over at WP:CLIMBING. However it's a relatively broad topic and I have never created a wikiproject before so I could use some help on the technical aspect of things. If anyone has some free time (bwahaha, no really), I'd appreciate it if you stopped by and lent a hand. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 11:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
(1) Did you mean bi-monthly or semi-monthly collaboration? It's hard to tell from the text. Bi-monthly generally means every two months, semi-monthly twice a month.
(2) You might want to list the project on
Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals before you start the project in earnest, maybe waiting for at least five members to join. That's generally enough to indicate that the project would be viable.
(3) There are a variety of other suggestions available in the
WikiProject Guide, which was written by the developers of the more successful projects in wikipedia. It would probably be a very good idea to review it and see if any of the suggestions included could be applied to your project.
That's about all I can think of. I hope anyone who thinks of anything else feels free to add their comments as well.
Badbilltucker 14:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I know that this has kind of been addressed above. But I noticed that User:Nathannoblet recently created an "alternative" to the Signpost. It really hasn't gotten much support, and was in fact nominated for deletion. But it did make me think of the idea of a single, unitary, project update notice. If you look at them all, many/most of the individual project newsletters begin to look more or less the same after a while. Does anyone think it might be a good idea to perhaps issue one regular "Project Post" (or whatever) which would discuss the major developments in all of the projects collectively. The things that I think would most likely be included would be the featured and good content raised up over the past month, the new projects and task forces developed in the past month, one or a few articles about certain specific projects, and a kind of letters/open forum section. Maybe it could be constructed along the lines of an average portal. I think that doing so would have a few advantages:
Anyway, any and all feedback would be more than welcome. Badbilltucker 13:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone oppose to that? I want to also organize out the specific field of every participants, so that it makes easier for anyone that want to seek specific assistance in a area. AQu01rius ( User • Talk) 18:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
See my query on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject proposal.
Simply south 16:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Zora is accusing my bot to be a nationalist bot. Please find her post at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Nationalistic_bot. All the bot did was to auto-tag "Stub" class and add Indian cinema project tag (a project she started) to Indian actor pages. I have tried to explain many times in the past on why talk page tagging helps with WP:1 and also helps assess the quality of articles. But she does not seem to understand it a bit. I would really appreciate if someone from this project, please comment at WP:ANI and help explain this to her. Thanks, Ganeshk ( talk) 00:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Has it ever been considered to create a new namespace for WikiProjects? Or "reuse" the Project: namespace (which is synonymous with the Wikipedia: namespace) and drop the WikiProject prefix? I believe shorter titles are better (for example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer science would become Project:Computer science.) — Ruud 13:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me what's the point in those comment subpages that can be found on many WikiProject banners (like this and this)? These templates say that people should comment on the article ratings and its quality, which is good, of course. But they are directed to a /comments-subpage of the talk page, which doesn't make any sense to me. Why should we create a new subpage to say what someone thinks of the article, instead of using the article's talk page? This just seems to create a second talk page for an article, it seems. -- Conti| ✉ 18:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I do like the idea of maybe issuing only one overall project newsletter per month or two, maybe something a bit more detailed and changing than many of the current newsletters, given their size and scope, may often be. It would also probably involve less man-hours in the development of just one such newsletter. Would anyone be willing to maybe help create and produce such a newsletter? I guess I see it basically introducing the new projects, maybe with descriptions of them, and maybe some centralized discussion of how to deal with new proposed or contemplated projects or workgroups. That last part might be particularly appealing, as it could help prevent creation of new projects which only get abandoned or deleted for lack of support shortly later. Badbilltucker 19:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Some articles are beginning to fall under the scope of many different WikiProjects. This is creating a very long list of templates above the TOC on the articles talk page (see talk for an example). Would it be possible to develop some sort of javascript dropdown that can contain all the WikiProject banners? I've seen previous discussion regarding combining all the templates into one meta-template at the top but I know that is impractical. I believe a javascript drop down similiar to one that is included on many WikiProject banners is sufficient.-- NMajdan• talk 14:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
For example
I think the whole criteria should change. Lists and some templates and categories could be highly important to the understanding of a particular subject yet they are not given a rating properly other than "list", "template" or "category", as though of minor importance.
I suggest it should be different
For example
I am not relating to any specific article or so on. Simply south 13:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Simply south 16:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Since you've displayed the TWP banner, I might as well pop in here too. {{ TrainsWikiProject}} understands class=list now (which is used on a very limited number of articles now), but it will display similar to class=NA (shown above) and suppress the importance rating display. I've been generally taking an approach similar to the FA criteria when rating articles for quality and usually don't put a rating above Start unless the prose is more than half of the entire article. I don't foresee anyone proposing a Good lists process yet, but we do have Featured lists. It doesn't matter much to me if we want to include an importance rating for lists; such an update will actually simplify the TWP banner code a little (I don't know about the other banners, but it's one less class parameter value that needs special treatment for TWP). Slambo (Speak) 19:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
The Religion project has just created a Left Hand Path task force. I'm trying to adjust the {{ WPReligion}} banner to accomodate, and getting no luck. The basic founder of the group has requested this image be added to the tab for the work group. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Badbilltucker 01:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Is anything happening with
the exemplar projects? I'd like more successful WikiProjects to nick ideas from examine for inspiration.
Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if I could get the approval from the council to move the project to WikiProject Assyria, as me and User:Nareklm have decided to include everything about Assyria in the project, and not just people. Chaldean 20:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I and another user have expressed concern about the apparent entry condition for WikiProject Rational Skepticism. Other projects are open to everyone. WikiProject Christianity, for example, is not a project for Christians, but a project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Christianity. WikiProject Paranormal is not a project for believers in the paranormal, but a project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the paranormal. WikiProject Rational Skepticism, in contrast, casts itself as "the central hub for Skeptical Wikipedians to get together and work on improving Wikipedia" and seeks to "serve as a nexus and discussion area for skeptically-inclined contributors". The members emphasized in response to our concerns that their goal is to improve Wikipedia, but are project entry conditions an appropriate way to do so? Tim Smith 02:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
comments please -- Larry laptop 00:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Is there anyone currently writing the guide, or attempts to organise it? Shall I just start writing some parts? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 13:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)