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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances/Archive 1#Requested move 24 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone! As part of the Women in Green edit-a-thon, I recently undertook the improvement of the article on Maria Bakunin. I think I've done rather well at providing biographical information on her, but I've unfortunately hit my limit in terms of my research capabilities. While I'm able to read Italian, I'm not nearly as well-versed in chemistry or chemical terminology, so my head gets a bit scrambled when I go over sources that are jargon-heavy. Would anybody here be willing and able to help with this article? From what I've read, Bakunin seemed like a very interesting and influential figure in chemistry, and the encyclopedia would do well to have a good write-up on her. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 14:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
The page Ernest Rutherford has been updated to more fully include the details of his life and scientific work. The page now expands upon his educational biography, appends dates to several of his discoveries, and includes others which had previously been omitted. I have also made a handful of additional edits on miscellaneous other sections. This may (or may not) be of interest in (re-)evaluating your project's content assessment of the article. Doughbo ( talk) 01:20, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi. We have a template {{ Branches of chemistry}} that collects many related subfields of chemistry, I suggested to turn it into a more general one. See related discussion here: Template talk:Branches of chemistry#Turn this into a general Chemistry template. I also would like to point out that template fails to link fundamental chemistry concepts like Elements, Atom, and Bonds in organized fashion. Currently it's linked from See also subsection. Weirdly enough. Please pay attention. Thank you. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 17:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I'd like to discuss and advocate the concept of importing free content rather than writing it from scratch. I can only assume that the internet hosts an order of magnitude more high-quality free content than our capacity to produce such texts.
To illustrate this idea, I began by inserting the theoretical portion of my PhD thesis into the English Wikipedia (see polyester). Apparently, it made a positive impression: After a few weeks, someone translated the text and images into the Arabic Wikipedia. There are countless other freely available theoretical parts of theses that could be suitable for import into Wikipedia.You can find more ideas on this topic at User:Minihaa/Incorporation of doctoral theses.
I am genuinely surprised that not many others have utilized this tremendous potential of high-quality texts. I would love to promote and discuss my idea further. We are currently overlooking a tremendous potential, in my opinion. Minihaa ( talk) 06:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
English speakers from year 12is not the same as what user:Minihaa said,
12-year-olds. Year 12’s are 17-18 years old. YBG ( talk) 11:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi there! I am not part of this Wikiproject, but I am a Wikigraphist. I am interested in improving Wikipedia’s visual content and I built a tool that could help detect visual gaps in Wikiprojects.
I called it Visual Content Assessment Tool, or simply VCAT.
A working version of VCAT with data for Wikiproject Neuroscience already extracted by me on 26/07/2023 can be found at VCAT-dashboard. You can always extract fresh data for any Wikiproject using the extraction tool, a command line tool I created for this purpose.
Some of the actions you can do with this tool are:
Then you can ask for image creation or vectorization on the Graphics Lab.
What do you think? Could it be a useful tool? MingoBerlingo ( talk) 16:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Is the bonding in organophosphates (and other P(V) compounds) explained entirely by hybridisation with the 3S orbital? I occasionally see the P=O drawn as being dative or a (RO)3P+−O− ylide doi: 10.1002/chem.201806247, with the shortened bond being explained by ionic attraction. P(IV) does seems to be a real thing, so maybe that's valid (doesn't seem right though). I also don't understand why species like (RO)5P are so rare, you wouldn't naturally expect hybridisation with s-orbitals to preference the formation of pi-bonds. I can't find any good sources which discuss this, anyone got any pointers? Project Osprey ( talk) 09:55, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
I am very distracted these days, but my guess is that user:NASH Obesity is a ref spammer.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 12:46, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to Credibility bot. This is a bot that makes it easier to track source usage across articles through automated reports and alerts. We piloted this approach at Wikipedia:Vaccine safety and we want to offer it to any subject area or domain. We need your support to demonstrate demand for this toolkit. If you have a desire for this functionality, or would like to leave other feedback, please endorse the tool or comment at WP:CREDBOT. Thanks! Harej ( talk) 18:12, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
The double bond rule article covers two unrelated concepts with this name:
so I plan to WP:SPLIT it into two separate articles. In order to disambiguate them, I need different names, either actually different terms or a parenthetical for one or both to clarify each's topic. So...what should I call them? Given the current content, meaning #1 is larger and the original meaning here, so my first thought is to offload #2 into a new name. "Double bond rule (allylic reactivity)" seems pretty clear, but the topic is not strictly limited to allylic. Or #1 could go to "Double bond rule (multiple-bonding)", but that sounds redundant or maybe even contradictory if one reads the article. Not a big deal, but if anyone has any thoughts I'd love to hear before proceding. DMacks ( talk) 03:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, it seems like the fire diamond in Chembox template for all chemical compounds is mis-allingned. I can't fix it (as I have no idea how it works). Can anyone having knowledge about it help? Thanks in advance!! Ray Frost ( talk) 06:29, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Β-Butyrolactone#Requested move 16 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:26, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
I have nominated it for deletion as it appears to be one author reinventing under a new name effects of x-ray damage. Please comment as appropriate. Ldm1954 ( talk) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Monounsaturated fat#Requested move 10 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject, such as those who would like to offer their knowledge on the chemistry of fats vs. fatty acids. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 22:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Branching (chemistry) (the pre-2010 article title) was left to redirect post-move to Branching (polymer chemistry) until retargeted to Branch (disambiguation) as {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} by DMacks in 2021, because at that time there were 2 other chemical concepts listed there in addition: branched-chain amino acid and branched alkane. However, recently the dab page was split to create Branching and these other topics were removed as partial title matches altogether (and we also have branched-chain fatty acid and other PTMs too). I considered a requested move to move the article back to the shorter disambiguation as the main article for "branching" in a chemistry context, but this all caused me to realize that that article really does focus on branching of polymers and not the more general organic chemistry concept of branched versus unbranched chains. I'm not sure we have a single place where Branching (organic chemistry) could be redirected. The closest would seem to be pendant group, but again, that is more about polymers than simple organic compounds. We have straight-chain compound (a redirect to Open-chain compound) where branched-chain compound and branching could be defined. Note that branched-chain redirects to branching (polymer chemistry). Anyway, looking for input on what to do with Branching (chemistry). Mdewman6 ( talk) 00:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
hey, here's a proposal to remove Influences/influenced fields from the scientist infobox. It was done for the philosopher infobox, and bacause these fields often have too many unsourced / unnecessary entries never covered in text it might be a good idea for scientists as well. Please see and comment there: Template_talk:Infobox_scientist#Influences/influenced. Artem.G ( talk) 16:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Well, we've got pages on alkaline earth compounds, and some of them have been crying out for cites for years. Sounds like just the ticket, right?
But you start reading, and then you realize
Worse, some of the identical text predates the copyright on his book. I don't think it's a COPYVIO problem; I think it's citogenesis and plagiarism.
I've gone through and removed almost every citation to his "encyclopedia" from our pages (one remaining is for picture credit and the other is about terminology, for which he is a debatably-reliable source). I haven't bothered to check whether the removed cites supported content that post-dates his copyright (although if he plagiarized us, whom else has he plagiarized?).
Also, some well-intentioned novice might come along and try to cite him again. So here's a friendly request to keep an eye out for anyone citing him, and kindly let them know that his "work" is actually useless.
Thanks, Bernanke's Crossbow ( talk) 06:47, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Student editors are being assigned topics for the fall where they are required to contribute to Wiki-Chem. One recent assignment is to "aldol". Here is our inventory on that specific topic:
Then there are various subthemes, including Mukaiyama aldol reaction. Its a problem.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 13:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
For the article unsaturated hydrocarbon, which is being edited ... My idea, driven by expediency in part, is that the article would not include aromatic hydrocarbons as examples of unsaturated hydrocarbons.
Yes, aromatic compounds can behave as unsaturated compounds, mainly by hydrogenation, but usually the topics are treated separately. If the community is agreeable to this separation, then the introductory paragraph would describe the scope. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 22:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
in addition to Unsaturated fat and Unsaturated fatty acid, but those are more specific topics obviously. I don't think our readers are served by us presenting the essentially the same concepts in multiple articles with similar titles. That said, if all 4 of the articles above can be better differentiated from each other and properly linked to one another, maybe it's okay. Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Student homework time, e.g., Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/The University of British Columbia/CHEM 300 (Fall 2023). A major tool for these students is transferring content to Wikipedia from Chemistry Libre ( https://chem.libretexts.org), an online textbook. In the same way that Wikipedia is not an RS, it seems that ChemLibre is neither. We want real references.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 15:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I wonder if any1 interested can take time and participate in reviewing the Electron backscatter diffraction article and support or oppose my feature article nomination at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Electron backscatter diffraction/archive1. Thanks FuzzyMagma ( talk) 22:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
I read here Covalent radius of fluorine, that "When F becomes F−, it gains one electron but has the same number of protons, meaning the attraction of the protons to the electrons is weaker, and the radius is larger." This is not correct. The electrons are not bunched together. The force between the nucleus and any single electron would be the same unless the radius were made larger for some other reason. The electric force is not shared out among the electrons present. 2603:8080:CE00:6800:A0E1:CC79:C0C3:1801 ( talk) 02:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I recently created the Template:History of physics which has helped to revise and navigate better in between history articles related to physics (and I am working on Draft:Template:History of mathematics). I started a Draft:Template:History of chemistry, however I am not sure I got every history article there is, and some topics could be grouped together as in Template:History of physics. To be precise I am only adding links to articles that are mainly about history (usually titled "History of", "Timeline of", "Chronology of"). I am not adding articles that have a history section like Physical chemistry. Seeing how few articles there are, maybe it is too soon to make this template. Any suggestions? ReyHahn ( talk) 13:35, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that in Glyphosate#Chemistry, there is the red link Ionic states. What would be the most appropriate article to link to instead? Or should we rather create a new redirect? Leyo 13:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
I cannot find a coherent topic for this article. Some papers distinguish between cyanimides and cyanamides, while others use it to refer to cyanamides only, or to the parent compound. The sole reference in the article seems to use the term to describe a carbodiimide metal complex, and contrasts with a cyanamide used to synthesize it. The parent carbodiimide is a tautomer of the parent cyanamide. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 09:37, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
Percy Lavon Julian has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 08:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
On the page for Hugo Weidel, it mentions that he invented Weidel's reaction. However, there is no article for Weidel's reaction, and I wasn't able to find anything online about the topic. Is anyone in this Wikiproject familiar with it? -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 09:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
"(d) Xanthine test.—Dissolve the residue or half of it in nitric acid and evaporate cautiously to dryness on a crucible cover over a small flame. A lemon-yellow residue results, which becomes intensely red on moistening with caustic soda, and on further heating purplishred. Add a few drops of water and warm; a yellow solution results, which again gives a red residue on evaporation (distinction from the murexide reaction for uric acid)."(e) The so-called Weidel's reaction.—Dissolve half of the xanthine obtained in bromine water, warming gently, evaporate the solution on the water-bath to dryness, and invert the dish over another which contains some ammonia. The residue becomes red."
This category has been nominated for deletion. Any comments here Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_29#Category:Foul-smelling_chemicals Meodipt ( talk) 09:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
In a few days, editors might take a look at the many articles being revised by students at UBC. A lot of their work seems unsupervised, and it appears that the instructors evaluate these assignment based on number of words (vs quality). Some content seems to cross the line with regards to WP:NOTTEXTBOOK at least. It looks like they are winding down for the semester. A good place to start is organic synthesis. Is organic synthesis really about reflux condensers or is it about, well, synthesis? -- Smokefoot ( talk) 03:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I have done some work on both of these, mainly removing fluff from X-ray crystallography and some cleaning of Crystallography. Both need significantly more work, and there are topic (e.g. macromolecular crystallography) where I don't know enough. I would appreciate the addition of sources and useful edits on the pages; comments OK but useful edits are better. Ldm1954 ( talk) 17:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Liquid crystal has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 20:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Does Comparison of chemistry and physics work as an article? It reads more like an essay to me. XOR'easter ( talk) 03:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that the article was moved to Relationship between chemistry and physics. Do we need to keep the old name as a redirect? -- Leyo 08:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
The newly added article CHNOPS appears to me to be mostly or entirely generated by an AI chatbot, based on it's consistently flat tone, impeccable grammar and organization, bizarre mixture of vague generalities with potent and tightly worded sentences, odd lapses of logic, and sophisticated associations and vocabulary not characteristic of a student editor. I can't find it lifted from the web but can generate eerily similar article sections by prompting ChatGPT 4.0 to write them simply by asking for an emphasis on astrochemistry. I had intended to simply improve it without prejudice about its source, but found it intensely frustrating and disorienting to try to verify the claims with the cited sources, so I am done trying. I would just delete it but don't want jump the gun if there is a better process that would document it and help prevent more of it. Do others agree that it is probable undeclared AI content, and what is an appropriate course of action? – MadeOfAtoms ( talk) 07:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
I started a conversation about Introduction to the heaviest elements and its relevance at WT:Physics. It does not seem like a proper introductory topic article. However it seems to serve as a filler for many articles (transclusion) of heavy elements (e.g. bohrium). What is the policiy on this? ReyHahn ( talk) 09:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Done--
ReyHahn (
talk)
15:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi there,
Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if I could create a new page called Quantum Computational Chemistry within this Wikiproject.This would entail moving the section titled "Quantum Computational Chemistry" in Computational Chemistry to it's own page then adding a subsection to Methods called Quantum Computational Chemistry. I would then proceed to create a brief abstract about quantum computational chemistry in the methods sections.
Please find the page moved in draft mode:
/info/en/?search=User:Erdabravest/Quantum_Computational_Chemistry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdabravest ( talk • contribs) 10:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Regards
Erdabravest2001 (
talk)
08:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
What is the relationship between the User:Erdabravest2001 and User:Erdabravest accounts? DMacks ( talk) 15:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Timeline of chemical element discoveries#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 留 21:19, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene#Requested move 4 January 2024, which is within the scope of this WikiProject.
DMacks (
talk)
19:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
As described emphatically at Talk:Salt (chemistry), Salt vs ionic compound vs alkali salt needs to be revisited and maybe merged. Page views per day are 750, 260, 44, respectively. Hefty. I can tag them for merge, but to what? My slight preference is Talk:Salt (chemistry) because its more common language. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 14:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Category:Name organic reactions, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DMacks ( talk) 21:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Somehow, I've only just become aware of this Bot, which keeps track of editors on any given wikiproject:
Between about 120-130 editors edited 5 or more pages associated with WP:Chem or WP:chemicals in the last 30 days. Looking at the lists I can see everyone I would expect to see, plus highly active WikiGnomes and some spill over from adjacent WikiProjects - but about two-thirds to three-quarters I don't recognise. Obviously there will be false positives, but I thought the list might be useful to identify orphan editors or trouble makers. Project Osprey ( talk) 21:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Continuous distillation has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 04:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but my feeling is that Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry (project page) was getting old and dusty. So I removed almost all of the to-do list (most had been done), and rewrote some global statements. Others are encouraged to revise or revert or overwrite what is there. Goals of this page might be to welcome, guide, and, maybe, boast a little. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 16:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Polymorphism (materials science)#Requested move 13 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 12:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm working on the Wikipedia article for Draft:Troy Bronson 2024, particularly his role in "Oppenheimer" where he portrays Joseph W. Kennedy, a chemistry key figure in the discovery of plutonium. This part of the article touches on significant scientific achievements and the portrayal of chemists in popular media.
I thought it might be interesting and beneficial to bring this to the attention of experts here. I'm curious about your thoughts on how chemists and their work are represented in films and media, especially in historical contexts like the Manhattan Project. Are there aspects or nuances about the portrayal of chemists and their discoveries that you think are often overlooked or misrepresented?
Your insights could help ensure the article not only highlights Bronson's role but also respects the scientific integrity and contributions of the real-life figures it depicts. Plus, it could be a fun way to bridge the gap between chemistry and popular culture in our content.
Looking forward to any thoughts or comments you might have!
EagleSleuth~~~~ EagleSleuth ( talk) 05:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
There seems to be a shift in the opinions regarding the quality of Wikipedia articles. Some of us veterans may still remember the times when referring to our articles was faced with scoffs and ridicule. Few years ago I spotted a book published by Elsevier that had utilized Wikipedia content to the extent it was then withdrawn. Now I found another, Heterocyclic Chemistry by Alvin Pugh published by Edtech Press. If one compares the entries of this book to the corresponding Wikipedia articles they might find surprising amount of similarities. The optimist in me sees this as a sign of high quality in our end and not as just the laziness and greed of authors and predatory publishers. Any other views? Nitraus ( talk) 12:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Atrane: "Silatranes exhibit unusual properties as well as biological activity in which the coordination of nitrogen to silane plays an important role. Some derivatives such as phenylsilatrane are highly toxic." Identical." Benzbromarone: "Benzbromarone is a uricosuric agent and non-competitive inhibitor of xanthine oxidase[1] used in the treatment of gout, especially when allopurinol, a first-line treatment, fails or produces intolerable adverse effects." -- Smokefoot ( talk) 14:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello. I am not an expert in chemistry, but I have an article related to this topic. In this source, the bicapped square antiprism may have an example of such cluster, that is . But I do not know whether this is correct (from the article I linked). I really appreciate someone explaining the technical of this chemistry topic. Thank you. Dedhert.Jr ( talk) 14:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
It appears that we lack an article on functional group compatibility. If anyone wants to create it, the new article or new section would be immediately linkable to multiple pre-existing articles, which is always very satisfying. One thought is that it could be a section within Protecting group or within functional group. March's organic text refers to the term 5x within the context of specific reactions. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 23:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
For Tahoka Formation, how do I write the dot between the water and the rest of the formula? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
I propose splitting X-ray diffraction out of X-ray crystallography, discussion started at Talk:X-ray crystallography#Split x-ray diffraction and crystallography. The two are not the same, and there are many areas of XRD where the focus is not on detailed determination of atomic positions. Examples are powder diffraction where comparison is made to known samples, SAXS and many more. There are many areas/pages where it is relevant to say "use XRD" but wrong to say use "X-ray crystallography This would also help to improve the current rambling X-ray crystallography page. Comments to the X-ray crystallography talk page please. Ldm1954 ( talk) 08:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances/Archive 1#Requested move 24 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone! As part of the Women in Green edit-a-thon, I recently undertook the improvement of the article on Maria Bakunin. I think I've done rather well at providing biographical information on her, but I've unfortunately hit my limit in terms of my research capabilities. While I'm able to read Italian, I'm not nearly as well-versed in chemistry or chemical terminology, so my head gets a bit scrambled when I go over sources that are jargon-heavy. Would anybody here be willing and able to help with this article? From what I've read, Bakunin seemed like a very interesting and influential figure in chemistry, and the encyclopedia would do well to have a good write-up on her. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 14:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
The page Ernest Rutherford has been updated to more fully include the details of his life and scientific work. The page now expands upon his educational biography, appends dates to several of his discoveries, and includes others which had previously been omitted. I have also made a handful of additional edits on miscellaneous other sections. This may (or may not) be of interest in (re-)evaluating your project's content assessment of the article. Doughbo ( talk) 01:20, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi. We have a template {{ Branches of chemistry}} that collects many related subfields of chemistry, I suggested to turn it into a more general one. See related discussion here: Template talk:Branches of chemistry#Turn this into a general Chemistry template. I also would like to point out that template fails to link fundamental chemistry concepts like Elements, Atom, and Bonds in organized fashion. Currently it's linked from See also subsection. Weirdly enough. Please pay attention. Thank you. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 17:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I'd like to discuss and advocate the concept of importing free content rather than writing it from scratch. I can only assume that the internet hosts an order of magnitude more high-quality free content than our capacity to produce such texts.
To illustrate this idea, I began by inserting the theoretical portion of my PhD thesis into the English Wikipedia (see polyester). Apparently, it made a positive impression: After a few weeks, someone translated the text and images into the Arabic Wikipedia. There are countless other freely available theoretical parts of theses that could be suitable for import into Wikipedia.You can find more ideas on this topic at User:Minihaa/Incorporation of doctoral theses.
I am genuinely surprised that not many others have utilized this tremendous potential of high-quality texts. I would love to promote and discuss my idea further. We are currently overlooking a tremendous potential, in my opinion. Minihaa ( talk) 06:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
English speakers from year 12is not the same as what user:Minihaa said,
12-year-olds. Year 12’s are 17-18 years old. YBG ( talk) 11:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi there! I am not part of this Wikiproject, but I am a Wikigraphist. I am interested in improving Wikipedia’s visual content and I built a tool that could help detect visual gaps in Wikiprojects.
I called it Visual Content Assessment Tool, or simply VCAT.
A working version of VCAT with data for Wikiproject Neuroscience already extracted by me on 26/07/2023 can be found at VCAT-dashboard. You can always extract fresh data for any Wikiproject using the extraction tool, a command line tool I created for this purpose.
Some of the actions you can do with this tool are:
Then you can ask for image creation or vectorization on the Graphics Lab.
What do you think? Could it be a useful tool? MingoBerlingo ( talk) 16:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Is the bonding in organophosphates (and other P(V) compounds) explained entirely by hybridisation with the 3S orbital? I occasionally see the P=O drawn as being dative or a (RO)3P+−O− ylide doi: 10.1002/chem.201806247, with the shortened bond being explained by ionic attraction. P(IV) does seems to be a real thing, so maybe that's valid (doesn't seem right though). I also don't understand why species like (RO)5P are so rare, you wouldn't naturally expect hybridisation with s-orbitals to preference the formation of pi-bonds. I can't find any good sources which discuss this, anyone got any pointers? Project Osprey ( talk) 09:55, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
I am very distracted these days, but my guess is that user:NASH Obesity is a ref spammer.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 12:46, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to Credibility bot. This is a bot that makes it easier to track source usage across articles through automated reports and alerts. We piloted this approach at Wikipedia:Vaccine safety and we want to offer it to any subject area or domain. We need your support to demonstrate demand for this toolkit. If you have a desire for this functionality, or would like to leave other feedback, please endorse the tool or comment at WP:CREDBOT. Thanks! Harej ( talk) 18:12, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
The double bond rule article covers two unrelated concepts with this name:
so I plan to WP:SPLIT it into two separate articles. In order to disambiguate them, I need different names, either actually different terms or a parenthetical for one or both to clarify each's topic. So...what should I call them? Given the current content, meaning #1 is larger and the original meaning here, so my first thought is to offload #2 into a new name. "Double bond rule (allylic reactivity)" seems pretty clear, but the topic is not strictly limited to allylic. Or #1 could go to "Double bond rule (multiple-bonding)", but that sounds redundant or maybe even contradictory if one reads the article. Not a big deal, but if anyone has any thoughts I'd love to hear before proceding. DMacks ( talk) 03:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, it seems like the fire diamond in Chembox template for all chemical compounds is mis-allingned. I can't fix it (as I have no idea how it works). Can anyone having knowledge about it help? Thanks in advance!! Ray Frost ( talk) 06:29, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Β-Butyrolactone#Requested move 16 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:26, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
I have nominated it for deletion as it appears to be one author reinventing under a new name effects of x-ray damage. Please comment as appropriate. Ldm1954 ( talk) 22:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Monounsaturated fat#Requested move 10 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject, such as those who would like to offer their knowledge on the chemistry of fats vs. fatty acids. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 22:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Branching (chemistry) (the pre-2010 article title) was left to redirect post-move to Branching (polymer chemistry) until retargeted to Branch (disambiguation) as {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} by DMacks in 2021, because at that time there were 2 other chemical concepts listed there in addition: branched-chain amino acid and branched alkane. However, recently the dab page was split to create Branching and these other topics were removed as partial title matches altogether (and we also have branched-chain fatty acid and other PTMs too). I considered a requested move to move the article back to the shorter disambiguation as the main article for "branching" in a chemistry context, but this all caused me to realize that that article really does focus on branching of polymers and not the more general organic chemistry concept of branched versus unbranched chains. I'm not sure we have a single place where Branching (organic chemistry) could be redirected. The closest would seem to be pendant group, but again, that is more about polymers than simple organic compounds. We have straight-chain compound (a redirect to Open-chain compound) where branched-chain compound and branching could be defined. Note that branched-chain redirects to branching (polymer chemistry). Anyway, looking for input on what to do with Branching (chemistry). Mdewman6 ( talk) 00:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
hey, here's a proposal to remove Influences/influenced fields from the scientist infobox. It was done for the philosopher infobox, and bacause these fields often have too many unsourced / unnecessary entries never covered in text it might be a good idea for scientists as well. Please see and comment there: Template_talk:Infobox_scientist#Influences/influenced. Artem.G ( talk) 16:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Well, we've got pages on alkaline earth compounds, and some of them have been crying out for cites for years. Sounds like just the ticket, right?
But you start reading, and then you realize
Worse, some of the identical text predates the copyright on his book. I don't think it's a COPYVIO problem; I think it's citogenesis and plagiarism.
I've gone through and removed almost every citation to his "encyclopedia" from our pages (one remaining is for picture credit and the other is about terminology, for which he is a debatably-reliable source). I haven't bothered to check whether the removed cites supported content that post-dates his copyright (although if he plagiarized us, whom else has he plagiarized?).
Also, some well-intentioned novice might come along and try to cite him again. So here's a friendly request to keep an eye out for anyone citing him, and kindly let them know that his "work" is actually useless.
Thanks, Bernanke's Crossbow ( talk) 06:47, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Student editors are being assigned topics for the fall where they are required to contribute to Wiki-Chem. One recent assignment is to "aldol". Here is our inventory on that specific topic:
Then there are various subthemes, including Mukaiyama aldol reaction. Its a problem.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 13:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
For the article unsaturated hydrocarbon, which is being edited ... My idea, driven by expediency in part, is that the article would not include aromatic hydrocarbons as examples of unsaturated hydrocarbons.
Yes, aromatic compounds can behave as unsaturated compounds, mainly by hydrogenation, but usually the topics are treated separately. If the community is agreeable to this separation, then the introductory paragraph would describe the scope. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 22:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
in addition to Unsaturated fat and Unsaturated fatty acid, but those are more specific topics obviously. I don't think our readers are served by us presenting the essentially the same concepts in multiple articles with similar titles. That said, if all 4 of the articles above can be better differentiated from each other and properly linked to one another, maybe it's okay. Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Student homework time, e.g., Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/The University of British Columbia/CHEM 300 (Fall 2023). A major tool for these students is transferring content to Wikipedia from Chemistry Libre ( https://chem.libretexts.org), an online textbook. In the same way that Wikipedia is not an RS, it seems that ChemLibre is neither. We want real references.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 15:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I wonder if any1 interested can take time and participate in reviewing the Electron backscatter diffraction article and support or oppose my feature article nomination at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Electron backscatter diffraction/archive1. Thanks FuzzyMagma ( talk) 22:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
I read here Covalent radius of fluorine, that "When F becomes F−, it gains one electron but has the same number of protons, meaning the attraction of the protons to the electrons is weaker, and the radius is larger." This is not correct. The electrons are not bunched together. The force between the nucleus and any single electron would be the same unless the radius were made larger for some other reason. The electric force is not shared out among the electrons present. 2603:8080:CE00:6800:A0E1:CC79:C0C3:1801 ( talk) 02:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I recently created the Template:History of physics which has helped to revise and navigate better in between history articles related to physics (and I am working on Draft:Template:History of mathematics). I started a Draft:Template:History of chemistry, however I am not sure I got every history article there is, and some topics could be grouped together as in Template:History of physics. To be precise I am only adding links to articles that are mainly about history (usually titled "History of", "Timeline of", "Chronology of"). I am not adding articles that have a history section like Physical chemistry. Seeing how few articles there are, maybe it is too soon to make this template. Any suggestions? ReyHahn ( talk) 13:35, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that in Glyphosate#Chemistry, there is the red link Ionic states. What would be the most appropriate article to link to instead? Or should we rather create a new redirect? Leyo 13:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
I cannot find a coherent topic for this article. Some papers distinguish between cyanimides and cyanamides, while others use it to refer to cyanamides only, or to the parent compound. The sole reference in the article seems to use the term to describe a carbodiimide metal complex, and contrasts with a cyanamide used to synthesize it. The parent carbodiimide is a tautomer of the parent cyanamide. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 09:37, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
Percy Lavon Julian has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 08:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
On the page for Hugo Weidel, it mentions that he invented Weidel's reaction. However, there is no article for Weidel's reaction, and I wasn't able to find anything online about the topic. Is anyone in this Wikiproject familiar with it? -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 09:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
"(d) Xanthine test.—Dissolve the residue or half of it in nitric acid and evaporate cautiously to dryness on a crucible cover over a small flame. A lemon-yellow residue results, which becomes intensely red on moistening with caustic soda, and on further heating purplishred. Add a few drops of water and warm; a yellow solution results, which again gives a red residue on evaporation (distinction from the murexide reaction for uric acid)."(e) The so-called Weidel's reaction.—Dissolve half of the xanthine obtained in bromine water, warming gently, evaporate the solution on the water-bath to dryness, and invert the dish over another which contains some ammonia. The residue becomes red."
This category has been nominated for deletion. Any comments here Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_29#Category:Foul-smelling_chemicals Meodipt ( talk) 09:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
In a few days, editors might take a look at the many articles being revised by students at UBC. A lot of their work seems unsupervised, and it appears that the instructors evaluate these assignment based on number of words (vs quality). Some content seems to cross the line with regards to WP:NOTTEXTBOOK at least. It looks like they are winding down for the semester. A good place to start is organic synthesis. Is organic synthesis really about reflux condensers or is it about, well, synthesis? -- Smokefoot ( talk) 03:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I have done some work on both of these, mainly removing fluff from X-ray crystallography and some cleaning of Crystallography. Both need significantly more work, and there are topic (e.g. macromolecular crystallography) where I don't know enough. I would appreciate the addition of sources and useful edits on the pages; comments OK but useful edits are better. Ldm1954 ( talk) 17:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Liquid crystal has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 20:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Does Comparison of chemistry and physics work as an article? It reads more like an essay to me. XOR'easter ( talk) 03:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that the article was moved to Relationship between chemistry and physics. Do we need to keep the old name as a redirect? -- Leyo 08:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
The newly added article CHNOPS appears to me to be mostly or entirely generated by an AI chatbot, based on it's consistently flat tone, impeccable grammar and organization, bizarre mixture of vague generalities with potent and tightly worded sentences, odd lapses of logic, and sophisticated associations and vocabulary not characteristic of a student editor. I can't find it lifted from the web but can generate eerily similar article sections by prompting ChatGPT 4.0 to write them simply by asking for an emphasis on astrochemistry. I had intended to simply improve it without prejudice about its source, but found it intensely frustrating and disorienting to try to verify the claims with the cited sources, so I am done trying. I would just delete it but don't want jump the gun if there is a better process that would document it and help prevent more of it. Do others agree that it is probable undeclared AI content, and what is an appropriate course of action? – MadeOfAtoms ( talk) 07:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
I started a conversation about Introduction to the heaviest elements and its relevance at WT:Physics. It does not seem like a proper introductory topic article. However it seems to serve as a filler for many articles (transclusion) of heavy elements (e.g. bohrium). What is the policiy on this? ReyHahn ( talk) 09:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Done--
ReyHahn (
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15:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi there,
Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if I could create a new page called Quantum Computational Chemistry within this Wikiproject.This would entail moving the section titled "Quantum Computational Chemistry" in Computational Chemistry to it's own page then adding a subsection to Methods called Quantum Computational Chemistry. I would then proceed to create a brief abstract about quantum computational chemistry in the methods sections.
Please find the page moved in draft mode:
/info/en/?search=User:Erdabravest/Quantum_Computational_Chemistry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdabravest ( talk • contribs) 10:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Regards
Erdabravest2001 (
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08:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
What is the relationship between the User:Erdabravest2001 and User:Erdabravest accounts? DMacks ( talk) 15:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Timeline of chemical element discoveries#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Remsense 留 21:19, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene#Requested move 4 January 2024, which is within the scope of this WikiProject.
DMacks (
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19:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
As described emphatically at Talk:Salt (chemistry), Salt vs ionic compound vs alkali salt needs to be revisited and maybe merged. Page views per day are 750, 260, 44, respectively. Hefty. I can tag them for merge, but to what? My slight preference is Talk:Salt (chemistry) because its more common language. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 14:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Category:Name organic reactions, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DMacks ( talk) 21:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Somehow, I've only just become aware of this Bot, which keeps track of editors on any given wikiproject:
Between about 120-130 editors edited 5 or more pages associated with WP:Chem or WP:chemicals in the last 30 days. Looking at the lists I can see everyone I would expect to see, plus highly active WikiGnomes and some spill over from adjacent WikiProjects - but about two-thirds to three-quarters I don't recognise. Obviously there will be false positives, but I thought the list might be useful to identify orphan editors or trouble makers. Project Osprey ( talk) 21:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Continuous distillation has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 04:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but my feeling is that Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry (project page) was getting old and dusty. So I removed almost all of the to-do list (most had been done), and rewrote some global statements. Others are encouraged to revise or revert or overwrite what is there. Goals of this page might be to welcome, guide, and, maybe, boast a little. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 16:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Polymorphism (materials science)#Requested move 13 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky ( talk) 12:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm working on the Wikipedia article for Draft:Troy Bronson 2024, particularly his role in "Oppenheimer" where he portrays Joseph W. Kennedy, a chemistry key figure in the discovery of plutonium. This part of the article touches on significant scientific achievements and the portrayal of chemists in popular media.
I thought it might be interesting and beneficial to bring this to the attention of experts here. I'm curious about your thoughts on how chemists and their work are represented in films and media, especially in historical contexts like the Manhattan Project. Are there aspects or nuances about the portrayal of chemists and their discoveries that you think are often overlooked or misrepresented?
Your insights could help ensure the article not only highlights Bronson's role but also respects the scientific integrity and contributions of the real-life figures it depicts. Plus, it could be a fun way to bridge the gap between chemistry and popular culture in our content.
Looking forward to any thoughts or comments you might have!
EagleSleuth~~~~ EagleSleuth ( talk) 05:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
There seems to be a shift in the opinions regarding the quality of Wikipedia articles. Some of us veterans may still remember the times when referring to our articles was faced with scoffs and ridicule. Few years ago I spotted a book published by Elsevier that had utilized Wikipedia content to the extent it was then withdrawn. Now I found another, Heterocyclic Chemistry by Alvin Pugh published by Edtech Press. If one compares the entries of this book to the corresponding Wikipedia articles they might find surprising amount of similarities. The optimist in me sees this as a sign of high quality in our end and not as just the laziness and greed of authors and predatory publishers. Any other views? Nitraus ( talk) 12:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Atrane: "Silatranes exhibit unusual properties as well as biological activity in which the coordination of nitrogen to silane plays an important role. Some derivatives such as phenylsilatrane are highly toxic." Identical." Benzbromarone: "Benzbromarone is a uricosuric agent and non-competitive inhibitor of xanthine oxidase[1] used in the treatment of gout, especially when allopurinol, a first-line treatment, fails or produces intolerable adverse effects." -- Smokefoot ( talk) 14:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello. I am not an expert in chemistry, but I have an article related to this topic. In this source, the bicapped square antiprism may have an example of such cluster, that is . But I do not know whether this is correct (from the article I linked). I really appreciate someone explaining the technical of this chemistry topic. Thank you. Dedhert.Jr ( talk) 14:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
It appears that we lack an article on functional group compatibility. If anyone wants to create it, the new article or new section would be immediately linkable to multiple pre-existing articles, which is always very satisfying. One thought is that it could be a section within Protecting group or within functional group. March's organic text refers to the term 5x within the context of specific reactions. -- Smokefoot ( talk) 23:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
For Tahoka Formation, how do I write the dot between the water and the rest of the formula? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
I propose splitting X-ray diffraction out of X-ray crystallography, discussion started at Talk:X-ray crystallography#Split x-ray diffraction and crystallography. The two are not the same, and there are many areas of XRD where the focus is not on detailed determination of atomic positions. Examples are powder diffraction where comparison is made to known samples, SAXS and many more. There are many areas/pages where it is relevant to say "use XRD" but wrong to say use "X-ray crystallography This would also help to improve the current rambling X-ray crystallography page. Comments to the X-ray crystallography talk page please. Ldm1954 ( talk) 08:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)