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I just removed two item from the articles requests section as it was obvious that they would have not meet the WP:BK criterion of notability nor they could push the argument of (number of languages published + good sense).
For manga article request, i wish in the notes for requests something inciting people to check WP:BK before posting their request, something similar to check WP:FICT before requesting character article.-- KrebMarkt 18:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
<Outdent> I'm in a first pass up to letter J, there are points, i want to express about the manga request treatment.
<Outdent>First pass of the requested article assessment done :)
KrebMarkt
16:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
A new article has appeared about an anime series called New Gaupher Eels, claimed to be "not very well known outside of Japan". I'm not sure whether it's a valid article that's difficult to track on Google or something someone's made up (it's from a new editor), so I thought I'd ask for input from editors more versed in Japanese animation. Thanks. – The Parting Glass 20:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Yesterday, I reorganized List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 characters. However, there is still lots of work to be done, including trimming some of the character descriptions, adding summaries to characters that currently lack them, finalizing the exact placement of characters on the list, weeding out all of the incidental characters, and a notability review of characters that have individual articles. -- Farix ( Talk) 00:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
The user User:WhiteKnightLeo has repeatedly removed content from the characters section on this article because they believe said content is spoiling the plot. I have tried to explain that spoilers should not merely be removed simply because one thinks they may spoil the plot for others, as is set out at WP:SPOILER on the article's talk page, but they are not listening. Anyone care to settle the dispute?-- 十 八 04:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
I've been trying to discuss this on the article talk page, but certain parties opt to keep messing with the article while the discussion is going on. The spoilers are only from select games in the series, and they are really not necessary, as well as inconsistent. The plot overview and most of the character profiles contain no spoilers at all. Then, suddenly, there are a few characters at the bottom that are massive spoilers and really don't need to be included. Four of them are alter-egos of characters who already have perfectly fine summaries up. Another is a familiar created by one of said alter-egos. There is really no need for these details. The article is fine without them. I tried to point this out, but was accused of trying to "own" the page and ganged up on. WhiteKnightLeo ( talk) 06:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Neither of you are reading what I'm typing. The poster above says it even better: "Nor should we write to spoil. A plot summary (the place most spoilers appear) should give a rough overview of the plot. If that is possible without spoiling people too badly, so much the better. But spoilers should only be removed if they are not necessary to understand the work, character, or whatever the topic is.". This is not simply about spoiling. If you can give information about the character and plot without massive spoilers, then that is best. Witch Maria, Eva-Beatrice, Goldsmith...these characters are massive spoilers, and their is no point to their inclusion. Fans have worked hard to keep massive spoilers out of the article. If you want to go to such lengths to spoil the game even when it is not necessary, than you are just dong so to be cruel. Just create a seperate article for the characters or for the individual games. You are all attempting to own the page, and you're not looking for a solution that will make everyone happy. WhiteKnightLeo ( talk) 06:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
We're trying to standardize the terminology we use; the problem is that the original Japanese in the original series sort of slurs the line (Engrish) so it sounded like "Lilim" with an "M"...or at least, the English sub/dub assumed this is what they were saying. The word actually never appeared in print. However, the recent "Rebuild of Eva 1.0 : You Are (Not) Alone" film, in the preview for the next film during the credits, actually established that in Latin characters they use the spelling "Lilin" with an "N", and apparently they were always saying "Lilin" (compare to how "Alucard" got slurred as "Arucard" to the point that they honestly thought "it's Dracura spelled backwards!") So the problem is that I think this new appearance, for the first time, of the word in print as "Lilin" in Rebuild of Eva 1, establishes that it was always meant to be "Lilin" and the original English sub just got it wrong. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ( talk) 03:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
This article looks very much like someone's research paper. I'm just wondering if it should be sent to AFD, clean up, or merge/redirected to anime. -- Farix ( Talk) 13:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
If you didn't noticed yet it, an IP removed the prod tags, so now it is an Afd process. KrebMarkt 14:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
We need more eyes on Greg Ayres's article. There was a report from AFansView that he had been hospitalized, but the website is currently down and both Mania and ANN have pulled their versions of the story. That leaves any information about his current health unsourced. However, there have been repeated attempts to inserting unsourced information that is in clear violation of WP:BLP. -- Farix ( Talk) 23:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
While we don't usually need to archive our references, sometimes it is a must do. In those case you should archive your references here Web Citation. I recommend it strongly for references to Japanese websites that delete often their archives or old stuff. A special mention is for Animate (curse them), anime radio show specific pages are removed after their broadcast ended making difficult to prove that the show existed, the dates of broadcast and titles & contents of the show episodes. KrebMarkt 20:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I've went and updated this article. Could someone please do a new assessment? Sarujo ( talk) 17:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion occurring at Wikipedia talk:Notability (books)#multiple review do not mean notability questioning the validity of the first criteria of WP:BK and proposing changes to remove reviews as a viable indicator of notability. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 19:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
It has been suggested that Beyblade (anime), Beyblade V-Force, and Beyblade G-Revolution be merged back to Beyblade. Views welcome at Talk:Beyblade#Merge. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 00:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
The AfD for Akane-chan Overdrive closed as merge to Mizuki Kawashita. Following the usual procedure for a book to author merge, User:TheFarix redirected Akane-chan Overdrive to the Kawashita article, and added the appropriate release info to the Kawashita article. However, User:Kintetsubuffalo, one of the only ones saying keep, disagrees that the article was merged and continues repasting the entire article to the Kawashita article including the infobox, image, plot, characters, etc, [1] [2] [3]. He's also complained to the admin and to DreamFocus (only other keeper) about the merge. Additional views at Talk:Mizuki Kawashita#The debate was closed on 06 February 2009 with a consensus to merge appreciated regarding how much of the Akane-chan article should be merged or if TheFarix's actions were the only merging needed. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 19:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
More fun fun...the merge was done, then reduced to a short plot summary, which has since been removed as multiple editors noted that it doesn't belong in a biography article. Dream Focus disagrees, and after various attempts at forum shopping didn't yield the results he wanted, a new discussion has started. So yet again...views on whether or not a plot summary of Akane belongs in Kawashita's biography article would be appreciated at Talk:Mizuki Kawashita#consensus on summaries -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 16:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I had this put to me by someone cooperating with the tough task of merging the Ranma ½ characters (it's good to see not everyone who has heavily contributed to articles throws a hissy fit at procedure). The argument is to provide a link for people who want the excessive extra detail I am removing. I have no idea if wikia is a valid external link or not. It's not the end of the world if not as there are other sites to use, but in the interest of good faith and cooperation I thought I should ask. Dandy Sephy ( talk) 18:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
On a related note, Dream Focus is, one again, attempting to add the Gantz wiki link to Gantz, claiming that EL isn't valid after twisting a converstation at the EL talk page. Additional input at Talk:Gantz#The Gantz wiki link to, once again, weigh in on that link's inclusion would be appreciated. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 15:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
If only we could post faceplam images.... Dream Focus would be getting about 3 a day from me on his talk page Dandy Sephy ( talk) 16:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on cleaning up the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure related articles and plot summaries. Unfortunately, my knowledge of the series is limited to what I read from the first ten or so volumes of Viz Media's English edition of the third story arc and Jump Ultimate Stars.
There were several stand-alone articles for many non-notable supporting characters which I decided to merge into the articles for each arc (did we really needed an article on the Runaway Girl) and even then, most of the current articles are in need of serious copyediting. Especially the main JoJo, which gives little insight of the overall plot and publication history of the series, and Steel Ball Run. Jonny2x4 ( talk) 20:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Anyone care to comment on whether Alfred J. Kwak can be considered an anime series? It seems to have been produced by Japanese studios, but was based on a Dutch theater show. ANN has a page for it titled Ahiru no Quack. Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 20:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Animated or printed works produced for consumption outside of Japan that nevertheless draw on or are similar to Japanese media in terms of content or form...do not fall under our scope.
Since the first FLC of characters, we have been using ANN to cite every voice actor mentioned in the article. This tends to give every article more than 10 kb with voice actors refs (imagine the Dragon Ball characters who have had several English voice actors). Could there be a better way to source va without expanding too much the length of the article? Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 17:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Here the latest episode of the WP:N drama
Fold the GNG into WP:V
I pointed out that near every single Manga are referenced on
Anime News Network and would pass WP:V just by putting a ref to ANN.
Unless i misinterpreted the implication for WP:Manga, it smells insanity :( --
KrebMarkt
18:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
With certain editors stymieing recent attempts in merging/redirecting articles on non-notable manga from notable, or semi-notable authors, what course of action should the Wikiproject take? Should we start asking project members to avoid recommending "merge" in AFD discussions, or at the very least specify what content should be merged and what content shouldn't be merged if they make a merge recommendation?
This also brings up another consideration about what information should be included in a list of works. Of course we have WP:LOW#Books in languages other than English as a guidelines about what to include and how to format the content, but do we also want to include things such as magazines the manga was serialized in? And if so, how should that be incorporated into the list? -- Farix ( Talk) 23:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know anything about Victoria's The Little Merboy? IP 71.86.151.212 has been adding stuff about it to various articles today. I'm assuming it's vandalism and deleting all references because i can't find anything online about it. Tempest115 ( talk) 01:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC) They've also used this IP Address
I just created this article. If anyone wants to help filling in the episode summaries, feel free. I'll get to them as I can, but more people helping will make it go faster. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Anybody know if the "Terminology" section should remain and if so, why? It was readded by an IP, and when I queried him/her, they responded on my talk page and I'm unsure how to respond. Help would be appreciated. Thanks. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 19:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
{{ Cite episode}} has been nominated for deletion. Discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 February 16#Template:Cite episode if you'd like to offer your views.-- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 14:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be a brewing edit war over at Anime Pulse regarding referencing and cleanup tags. -- Farix ( Talk) 00:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
So where in Wikipedia's infinitely unindexed manual of style does it discuss what information is appropriate to include in a artist or writer article? Why, exactly, do we want to list only the bare-bones publication details for a mangaka, and not mention at least something about what the works are about? — Quasirandom ( talk) 01:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
After the GirlFriends (manga) AfD went off track, it was closed as "no consensus". It is now at DRV: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February 13#GirlFriends (manga) for revisiting of the closure and a requested relisting to allow further comments. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 15:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Answered :
Erika Friedman RS for yuri ?
She is RS for yuri field. --
KrebMarkt
22:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Should i put her on the Project references list with all precaution? It will avoid to have this discussion again and again -- KrebMarkt 06:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello, all. I was recently made aware that taking episode summaries from the companies that publish them (i.e. the episode summaries found on websites, iTunes, and in TV guides) was a copyvio. I have made several of these articles myself ( List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 2), List of Speed Grapher episodes) and I would like to confirm that this is in fact the case. While these technically are copyrighted, I would think that such episodes can be seen as fair-use, but I'm not entirely sure, so I'm bringing it up here. If these are in fact copyvios, we will need to CSD/AfD a high amount of lists and rework the way we view lists, and since these may be copyvios, resolving this is of the highest priority. Thanks for your consideration. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The feed for the FA, FA & biographies seems broken. I read that :
It doesn't come from
Portal:Anime and Manga/Selected article or the others two as no edit were made there in the last few months.
Any clue ? --
KrebMarkt
09:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a problem at List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 characters with an editor, Angas ( talk · contribs), that keeps changing the location of one of the character, but refuses to participate in the discussion on the talk page. The editor mostly edits under a dynamic IP in the 122.2.x.x range. Most all of the contributions from this editor and IP range is to move the character around and add their own annalists. -- Farix ( Talk) 16:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Since the Erika's Friedman issue, i think some RS brainstorming is needed.
My input :
Erika Friedman is RS BUT shouldn't be used to source anything controversial or BLP. That from the RS notice board.
I also put Comics Village & Comic Book Bin in the RS noticeboard for input.
At Quasirandom request The references pages of the project comics.
Another avenue is to check the parents TransWiki anime-manga project for RS. My first is prob is so-so. French Wiki have already listed the 2 big French manga/anime website as RS. The Italian is near-utter craps references wise but need another check. Japanese Anime/Manga project is too full of links and the language barrier doesn't help.
Please feel free to post your refs or discuss the posted ones. -- KrebMarkt 14:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I've got an editor over at Talk:Mobile Suit Gundam 00 insisting that the image in the infobox be an English cover or title instead of the Japanese DVD cover. Comments are welcomed. -- Farix ( Talk) 22:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm up against 3RR at this point - seems there is some insistance that this American comic use the animanga infoboxes, which I have addressed on both talk page and edit history - despite which I have now been given a warning that my "unexplained edits" may get me b&. Anyone else care to take a swat or three at this? 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 15:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Update: Extremepro solved our issue. He created the article for both OEL publication. I boldly took the opportunity to give him a Barnstar for his renewed work in our Requested Article Department. I also wrote something redirecting to the comics requests list for OEL.-- KrebMarkt 07:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
tvdrama-db.com I found this site while searching for episode dates. The published version is listed by Penn Library as one of their main research books for Japanese dramas, a lot of which cover anime. じん ない 02:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
As of now, there's no official Japanese versions of Italian TV series Winx Club. However, someone is adding false roles on the articles about Japanese voice actors. Examples are: Ayako Kawasumi being a voice of Bloom [9], and Naoko Matsui being a voice of Layla [10].
We need some idea to fix the situation like this. And we need closer co-operations with all the editions of Wikipedia and other sites, to prevent false facts being spread over the web. -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 11:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi All,
I'm looking for listings of Manga artists in Japan or elsewhere (particularly interested in the UK, China and Korea). Any suggestions? Thanks! -- SidiLemine 16:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
P3DRO has created 3 stub articles for characters from Lost Universe with no new information added. I've tagged these for merging and notified him, but should I go and redirect them or give him some time? The articles are bare-bones and I doubt without some very serious effort that any information added would be enough to justify notability beyond the main article. じん ない 17:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Over at Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal, a user has re-added the site "Anime Source" as a example of reception. I reverted the original addition of it because on the face of it, it appears to simply be yet another generic anime site. Setting aside that they haven't used a citation template and that they spent a dozen edits this morning on the same page working out anime-nfo is blacklisted, has anyone got any thoughts? Dandy Sephy ( talk) 00:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the ANN link could be discussed, while we all know ANN is a reliable source, the link and point being made is still based on its user reviews, which we state are not RS Dandy Sephy ( talk) 03:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I stumbled across this site from a seiyuu article here. It's a seiyuu database, but rather then being run by a random fan, it's run by a japanese baseball player! Hitoshi_Doi
The best thing is, the site is in english. Can someone more experienced then me decide if its possibly RS or not. I wish to use it in a few articles, so I'm throwing it out there. If not I'll settle for it being a valid External link if possible Dandy Sephy ( talk) 05:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Incidentally, I'm going to make a case, which I think is fairly compelling, for http://www.aestheticism.com/ - a yaoi fansite. Aestheticism was a print magazine in '96 and became a web page in '97. Sequential Tart, in an article apparently written by one of the Aestheticism team, credits it with being one of the early yaoi fan pages. [12] Aestheticism seems to have been a translation hub. [13] It seems to have provided support for Yaoi-Con in its infancy [14] Matt Thorn recommends it on his links page, it's used as a reference in the slash fiction and yaoi entries from the Encyclopedia of Erotic Literature (which were by different people - the yaoi one was written by Mark McHarry), Mark McLelland (university lecturer) used it as a reference in his bonking paper, as has Dru Pagliassotti (university lecturer) just last year, Mark McHarry (independant scholar, working on a forthcoming book with Antonia Levi of Samurai from Outer Space and Dru Pagliassotti on yaoi) has used it and describes it as "Extensive yaoi information, resources, reviews", Veruska Sabucco, an Italian researcher, used their site and mailing list to compile information for her paper "Guided Fan Fiction: Western "Readings" of Japanese Homosexual-Themed Texts", which is available in a book. Basically, whenever you're talking about the 1990s in the English-language yaoi fandom, or you're wanting some kind of a potted definition of all these terms people keep throwing around, or you want to know "Why do girls like yaoi?" or stylistic conventions of the genre (eg. censorship styles), Aestheticism is being cited in the literature. -- Malkinann ( talk) 10:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
After two tries on the RS notice board Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_27#cal.syoboi.jp Wikipedia:RS/N#cal.syoboi.jp_2nd_try, the RS board declined the request.
Can anyone give it a try and assess whatever it's RS ? There is around 8 FL using refs from this website. Thanks. -- KrebMarkt 08:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
<outdent> Ok At least cal.syoboi.jp can used as a lead to the related TV channels programs page.
For reference our last discussion about Class A Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 33#A-Class, for real
Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment started a Rfc about Class A
Wikipedia talk:ASSESS#Request for Comment regarding A-Class assessments
Resulting an Irc meeting :
Meeting summary
MeetingLog
And now things have been taken to
WT:CWG and the brainstorming continues in
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group
Our project will mostly not be affected as to quote Malkinann :
Part of the problem with A-class is that the content is meant to be "complete" - the people most likely to be able to assess that in terms of the manga and anime project's articles are the ones who are already working on the articles and seeking the assessment.
--
KrebMarkt
08:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Been meaning to ask this, but kept forgetting. Where is the cutoff line for what denotes an anime/manga video game? The issue came up with Rune Factory 2 because it uses anime characters for all personal interactions, but it has been contested. The scope says "Nor do media, particularly video games, in which anime or manga characters make incidental or out-of-context appearances." so I'm not sure if it qualifies as "incidental" usage. Furthermore RF2 also has a manga series based around it as well to help muddy the waters more. じん ない 01:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that the project seems to be leaning toward manga artist articles using {{ Infobox comics creator}} and cover images using {{ Non-free comic}}. Would this line of thinking extend to using {{ Cite comic}}? I mean, manga have more in common with comics than books in general. ~ Itzjustdrama C ? 01:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
A bit off topic : Can anyone tell if a video game adaptation of a Manga is an evidence of notability strong enough to pass WP:BK#3. Thanks. -- KrebMarkt 07:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Evidently, Tanoshimi has ceased acquiring new licenses or releasing new manga volumes, although they have stated that they intend to continue reprinting those volumes they've already released. [15] Can anyone find any press releases or other reliable sources talking about this? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 04:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
An anonymous editor just added a request for an article on Anime Tencho, with the following description: "a character who has appeared in several comedy anime, most notable Lucky Star. However, he is an official mascot of the Animate store, and has had his own manga and a short anime produced by Gainax, and thus has some amount of notability." It sounds interesting, but a (very cursory) search on my part isn't turning up muchmore than fansubs and passing mentions. Any thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 05:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
A discussion has been started to determine if Wanted should be redirected to author Matsuri Hino's article for failing WP:BK. Discussion can be found here: Talk:Wanted (manga)#Merge. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 05:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Page two & three of Google search results : Pop Culture Shock short Review Mania Review Comics Village Review that should settle not enough of RS reviews issue -- KrebMarkt 16:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Pulling out a comment made above, and elaborating: Given that more and more manga are not only being licensed in Europe but reviewed in those languages, I'd like to personally urge WikiProject members to not PROD or propose merging manga series articles without first posting notice to a central noticeboard (such as here), so that more eyes can look for evidence of notability in languages other than English. Stub series articles generally are generally not on many watchlists, so simply tagging one often doesn't result in much collaboration in the necessary searches.
Manga is international, as are reliable-source notices -- and we can't assume there aren't any, just because there aren't in English. — Quasirandom ( talk) 15:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, it's seems that this discussion Wikipedia_talk:BK#Translations_.3D_Notability in WP:BK ended with everyone having its home made, personal conclusion.
So, i want a clear consensus on this matter. (Being the one who concluded the previous discussion and passed for an idiot in the process)
Feel free to read the previous discussion log and give your interpretation on how ended that discussion. I may be an annoying barking dog but i want this settled down one way or another with no way to diverge in the interpretation either in inclusion or non-inclusion side.
Thanks you for spending time with my latest tantrum. --
KrebMarkt
15:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
<Outdent> Foreign languages should not be used as the primary argument in most discussion but should rather be used as tie breaker during those discussion. With our concerted effort, i think that a bunch of manga without English publisher are kept and will be, so people won't called us evils non-English haters. The point is that those articles are rather difficult to develop quality & verifiability wise. Translating reviews in English can be daunting. -- KrebMarkt 19:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
For an example - Zetsuai 1989 was one of the most famous series in English yaoi fandom in 1995, but it was never licensed in English, so there are few reviews, and it doesn't look notable at first glance. The Russian article is quite something, though. -- Malkinann ( talk) 03:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.
All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot ( Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 04:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a proposal to overhaul {{ Infobox animanga}} at Template talk:Infobox animanga#Template consolidation that hasn't gotten much participation. Anyone care to go have a look and comment on it? (you'll want to make sure you've got a bit of time; the collapsed text is pretty lengthy) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 20:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
|live-action=yes
, which I believe the anime component already supports. --
Dinoguy1000 as
66.116.12.126 (
talk)
00:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Because i'm lazy, i'm dropping here some RS references links up to you to exploit them.
2008 Top 50 Manga, Oricon
2008 Top 10 Manga series, Oricon
2008 Most Interesting Manga, Oricon
2008 Top 25 Manga License, ICV2
Those numbers are all reprized in
Comipress 2008 batch of results
I have more to write that will be for later. --
KrebMarkt
15:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
That one 2ch Jump Log Warehouse isn't RS but the sources used there are near-all RS, ranging from news communiques to Shonen Jump Ad scans. Careful reading required thought as the numbers are declared in tens-thousands books sold. -- KrebMarkt 17:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
A peer review has been opened for Anime at Wikipedia:Peer review/Anime/archive1. Please comment on the review so that we can finally bring the article up to featured article status. -- Farix ( Talk) 19:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Mars was prodded. I deprodded it because I think it should be merged into First Robotech War. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated this articles for deletion : First Robotech War, Battle of Saturn's Rings, Battle of Mars, Second Robotech War, Third Robotech War and iam not sure if this article Robotech Wars needs to be deleted too?. It is timeline. Is it needed?.-- SkyWalker ( talk) 04:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I need some 3Os here about whether describing the actions of one character as murder is a neutral point of view or not. -- Farix ( Talk) 01:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
How are you supposed to deal with {{ Graphic novel list}} if you want to have more than one date and ISBN in the right-hand side? (ie. original Japanese, but also covering the German and French editions, as in Zetsuai 1989, a series which has never been licensed in English.) I feel that when a series is not licensed in English, covering licensing details of other languages is helpful, as the stories could be followed, if one was especially keen, by purchasing the French edition and then spending some quality time with MediaDico. -- Malkinann ( talk) 20:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
See Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Images_of_costumes_tagged_as_copyvios_by_AnimeFan. If successful, this can set a precedent that will result in deletion of all cosplay images from Wikimedia projects.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Articles involving Robotech and it series has loads of serious issues such has failing Notability guidelines. Yesterday i have merged some of the characters to List of Robotech characters and today the User:Hyperionsteel has reverted all the changes if this keeps going the only thing that is needed is to AFD them so a proper consensus be reached. Also there is several more articles that need consensus. Such has:
Optera, Tirol, Reflex Point, SDF-1 Macross, SDF-2 Megaroad-01, SDF-3 Pioneer, SDF-4 Izumo, Garfish class cruiser, Tristar-class cruiser, Veritech fighter, VF-1 Valkyrie, VFA-6 Alpha, VFB-9 Beta, VF-8 Logan, Rick Hunter, Lisa Hayes, Breetai, Exedore, Claudia Grant, Max Sterling, Miriya Parina Sterling, Macross operators, Dana Sterling, Scott Bernard, Ariel, T. R. Edwards, Haydonites, Invid, Robotech Elders, Robotech Masters, Maia Sterling • Zentradi, Zor Prime, First Robotech War, Battle of Saturn's Rings, Battle of Mars, Second Robotech War, Third Robotech War.
Suggested proposal is Deletion and Merging. All of this article fails notability and does not deserve to have own articles.
Articles to be merged List of Robotech characters:-.
Articles to be deleted:-
Not sure what to do with this: Some of them can be merged to Universe of Robotech.
What are your opinions?. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 03:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. There are too many characters to be merged and most of their articles are too long. Putting them all in one article will make it too lengthy and impracticable. They should remain separate. I've reverted the changes (twice now) because I feel strongly about this. I would appreciate more discussion before taking such an far-reaching course of action. ( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 03:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
Early in my Wikipedia career, I edited quite a few of these articles and even started a couple of them. As you can imagine, seeing them (and all the time and energy that went into them) merged or outright deleted would make me pretty sad. However that said, as a relatively impartial administrator on this site, I recognize that the vast majority of these articles fail -as independent, stand-alone articles- to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. Even using the "easier" notability criteria in the proposed WP:FICT notability guideline ("An element of fiction may satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article if it is central to understanding an important work of fiction and is the subject of significant real-world coverage from reliable sources."), I doubt that even a quarter of these articles could be saved. Long time editors of Wikipedia will immediately recognize this issue as one of reasons why in-universe wikis like Memory Alpha and Wookieepedia got their start (those not familiar can get the gist of it by reading the first paragraph or two of Wookieepedia#History). -- Kralizec! ( talk) 04:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
It's clear I'm alone in opposing this, so I won't fight against the inevitable. I've put a lot of work into many of these articles so I'm a little upset that you want to either delete or minimize them. I'd like to try and reach a compromise.
I have no problem with the following articles being merged: ( Lazlo Zand, Emil Lang, Nova Satori, Anatole Leonard).
With regard to Lynn Minmay and Lisa Hayes, I don't think merging the Robotech and Macross articles is a good idea. Robotech and Macross are not parallel universes. The English Robotech is a completely separate story arc from Macross. Also, Lisa Hayes in particular remains a notable character beyond the first Robotech Saga, none of which has a parallel in
Super Dimension Fortress Macross.
My past experience is that mixing Macross and Robotech articles is too confusing and complicated due to the different story lines, characters, translations, and events outside of the 36 original episodes.
For more minor characters (such as the Macross operators, this does work, but not with characters with long and complicated histories.( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 05:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
I think the VF-1 Valkyrie article can be salvaged, since it has third party sources that can be put into the article, because it was a popular toy, with mentions in toy magazines. As for the other vehicles, they can be merged into the list of vehicles. A Robotech universe article sounds like a good idea. I think that Zentraedi and Invid should remain separate articles, since they are main features of this fictional universe. Robotech Wars should also merge into the universe article. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
-Possible third party sources, should anyone have the print issues -- Protoculture Addicts and Mecha Press 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Someone posted about this on the wikicomic project - having looked at some of the articles, I'd suggest you get merging/transwiking pretty quickly before people like me start AFDing the articles. -- Cameron Scott ( talk) 11:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Is http://anime-wiki.org an eligible target for transwiki? The articles before we start merging things together, as-is, might be transwikied there. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 11:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I have merged this following articles for failing WP:Notability and WP:Fiction guidelines Lazlo Zand, Emil Lang, Nova Satori, Anatole Leonard, Dolza, Lynn Minmay, Marcus Rush and Maia Sterling
The articles which have not been merged yet are :- Breetai, Exedore, Claudia Grant, Max Sterling, Miriya Parina Sterling, Macross operators, Dana Sterling, Scott Bernard, Ariel (Robotech), T. R. Edwards, Robotech Elders and Zor Prime
More discussion is needed. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 04:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I think that Claudia Grant, the Macross Operators, and Zor Prime could be merged. However, the other characters are more central to the Robotech plot and the series as a whole (which spans 3 generations). They should not be merged.( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 23:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC))
Stub class prevents an article from becoming a DYK. Could you reassess Viper's Creed to a Start class? Many DYK articles that are shorter and less developed than this article are not rated as a stub class on the talk page. Regards, — Mattisse ( Talk) 01:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Could someone with nihongo skillz assist with the names and titles listed in High School Debut#Light novels? I'd appreciate it. — Quasirandom ( talk) 22:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I've added a search field in the archive box to allow searching of just the archives of this page. Enjoy! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:16, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
How does The Anime Critic measure up? -- Masamage ♫ 22:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Can someone provide me with a list of GA or B-class seiyū's? I'm trying to get Mamoru Miyano's article (which was a mess up until yesterday) up to a GA status but I have nothing to base it on. So if a list can be provided it'll be a great help. ~Moon~ 月 と 暁~Sunrise~ 22:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
If you're interested, we have the Biography Workgroup. There's only four members right now so we're kind of limited in what we can do. We have a Seiyu stub category but as far as I know we don't have any developed Seiyu articles. -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 20:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The mergers have been slow, but going well. Sourcing has improved on the character list tremendously, though there is a lot that could be done. Still, I'm battling lots of insertions of original research and of excessive plot details and I can use some help here. I could also use some help with the growing charges that I'm not actually cleaning up the articles but "merely destroy [ sic] other Wikipedians' hard work". -- Farix ( Talk) 01:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
A discussion has been started at Talk:Mayu Sakai#Nagatachō Strawberry merge to determine whether Nagatachō Strawberry should be redirected to its author's article as it fails WP:BK. It was already redirected, however DreamFocus (as usual) reverted it. The article survived an AfD in January, but on the basis of only two comments both of which were based on the now non-existent notability criteria that was also rejected in WP:BK discussions. So additional views on whether it should be redirected/merged appreciated at the discussion. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 13:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
If the ANN encyclopedia section is regarded as unreliable, how about the reviews section of ANN? I believe that if their news section is regarded as reliable, so too should be their reviews. -- Malkinann ( talk) 23:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I came across a mention of the book Manga: The Complete Guide, and I realised I had enough reviews and interviews on it to make a notability-passing article on it, plus there was a red link, and we all know that Wiki abhors a vacuum. ;) However, now it needs attention from someone who's actually read the book, or better yet, owns a copy. Thanks. -- Malkinann ( talk) 08:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Flags in the Infobox regarding the use of flags in the infobox. Views appreciated. :) -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 02:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Earlier today, I removed the image check in {{ Infobox animanga character}} that automatically categorizes the article to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of anime and manga if it lacked an image. Instead, I added the check to {{ Infobox animanga/Header}} instead. I did this for two reason. First, most character article are of non-notable characters which should be merged. It's simply a waste of time to sort though the chaff to find the wheat. This point was previously discussed in an earlier discussion. Second, we generally want the main articles to contain an illustration, whether it be the cover of the first volume, film poster, publicity image, or whatever. Rarely do we need to merge articles at this level. It is also much easier to obtain these images and create non-free use rationals for them. Hopefully, this change will make the category easier to maintain. -- Farix ( Talk) 22:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Before I head off and start nominating some article in the Hentai category, I like to know the status of two websites for reviews. First, Animetric ( http://www.animetric.com/) is referred to as both a self-published website and "reliable source", but I'm not seeing any discussion about it. Are there any examples where its reviews were quoted in more mainstream publication, as the description on the project page states? The best I can find is that they were quoted in a handful of ADV press releases in '04 and '05.
Second is Hentai Neko ( http://www.hentaineko.com/), which also appears to be a self-published website. However, I can't find anything about the contributors of the website to tell for sure. It's connected somehow with Otaku Fringe ( http://www.otakufridge.com), which judging from its "about" page is not a reliable source because reviews are user submitted. -- Farix ( Talk) 11:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
An new user has boldly reworked List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED characters. I was probably too wordy in comments on the editor's talk page, but I thought the previous organization (by faction) would be easier to source, while the current organization would be much harder to source. Either way, please comment about the changes and which version you feel is better. Edward321 ( talk) 00:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The above discussion gives me an excuse to ask about something that's been bothering me for some time now: is there any particular reason the various Gundam SEED articles use that capitalization? Having read one ( two?) of the Seed manga series, I can't see any reason for it to be completely capitalized (it's not an abbreviation or anything). Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 19:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Started this month, but I only just found out about it. A separate sublist of the New York Times "Graphic Books (sic) Bestseller List", that is. You might be able to guess who's dominating it: the week of 28 February, it was ALL Naruto except for two Dark Horse titles, and last week all Naruto except for a volume each of three other Viz titles. Something to keep an eye on, and possibly add to the reception sections of MPD-Psycho (which needs an article move), Eden, Bleach, The Gentlemen's Alliance Cross, and Black Cat. Oh, I suppose Naruto as well, if you think it important. — Quasirandom ( talk) 22:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
With ANN's encyclopedia no longer considered RS, I'm trying to find new sources for the Tokyo Mew Mew episode list air dates to salvage its future FL status :) In hunting around, I found one possible sources that appears to have all of the series airdates, but I can't tell for sure if it meets WP:RS due to the limitations of translators. http://www.anime.marumegane.com/ has Takashi Murakami's name on it, which would seem to make it very likely to be RS. The top logo says "Anime Information Survey Office", but I can't find any kind of "about us link"so further views definitely needed. Help! :) -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 02:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I devised a new organization scheme for List of GetBackers characters, I was wondering if someone who was familiar with the series or had experience with character lists could take a look at it. The plan is here. Also, is GetBackers the appropriate capitalization of that name? Shouldn't it be Getbackers? -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 21:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on a new set of notability guidelines for manga series that should be slightly more lenient than the current WP:BK, which is extremely hard for manga to pass. I've noticed that very few manga pages that fail WP:BK are in fact nominated for deletion (series like Bitter Virgin). However, for series like Hunter × Hunter or xxxHolic, which do not currently pass a strict interpretation of WP:BK, notability needs to be declared. Please see User:NocturneNoir/Sandbox/Notability (manga) and perhaps comment on the talk page. At this time, this idea is very very sandboxy; I would like criticism and not an outright vote. Thanks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR ( t • c) 21:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
If you have a moment and some interested, why not browse the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga list. There are nine articles currently up for AfD, and a few of those discussions discussions which are not generating enough comments so they are starting to have to be relisted. Additional views would be useful. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 00:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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I just removed two item from the articles requests section as it was obvious that they would have not meet the WP:BK criterion of notability nor they could push the argument of (number of languages published + good sense).
For manga article request, i wish in the notes for requests something inciting people to check WP:BK before posting their request, something similar to check WP:FICT before requesting character article.-- KrebMarkt 18:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
<Outdent> I'm in a first pass up to letter J, there are points, i want to express about the manga request treatment.
<Outdent>First pass of the requested article assessment done :)
KrebMarkt
16:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
A new article has appeared about an anime series called New Gaupher Eels, claimed to be "not very well known outside of Japan". I'm not sure whether it's a valid article that's difficult to track on Google or something someone's made up (it's from a new editor), so I thought I'd ask for input from editors more versed in Japanese animation. Thanks. – The Parting Glass 20:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Yesterday, I reorganized List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 characters. However, there is still lots of work to be done, including trimming some of the character descriptions, adding summaries to characters that currently lack them, finalizing the exact placement of characters on the list, weeding out all of the incidental characters, and a notability review of characters that have individual articles. -- Farix ( Talk) 00:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
The user User:WhiteKnightLeo has repeatedly removed content from the characters section on this article because they believe said content is spoiling the plot. I have tried to explain that spoilers should not merely be removed simply because one thinks they may spoil the plot for others, as is set out at WP:SPOILER on the article's talk page, but they are not listening. Anyone care to settle the dispute?-- 十 八 04:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
I've been trying to discuss this on the article talk page, but certain parties opt to keep messing with the article while the discussion is going on. The spoilers are only from select games in the series, and they are really not necessary, as well as inconsistent. The plot overview and most of the character profiles contain no spoilers at all. Then, suddenly, there are a few characters at the bottom that are massive spoilers and really don't need to be included. Four of them are alter-egos of characters who already have perfectly fine summaries up. Another is a familiar created by one of said alter-egos. There is really no need for these details. The article is fine without them. I tried to point this out, but was accused of trying to "own" the page and ganged up on. WhiteKnightLeo ( talk) 06:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Neither of you are reading what I'm typing. The poster above says it even better: "Nor should we write to spoil. A plot summary (the place most spoilers appear) should give a rough overview of the plot. If that is possible without spoiling people too badly, so much the better. But spoilers should only be removed if they are not necessary to understand the work, character, or whatever the topic is.". This is not simply about spoiling. If you can give information about the character and plot without massive spoilers, then that is best. Witch Maria, Eva-Beatrice, Goldsmith...these characters are massive spoilers, and their is no point to their inclusion. Fans have worked hard to keep massive spoilers out of the article. If you want to go to such lengths to spoil the game even when it is not necessary, than you are just dong so to be cruel. Just create a seperate article for the characters or for the individual games. You are all attempting to own the page, and you're not looking for a solution that will make everyone happy. WhiteKnightLeo ( talk) 06:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
We're trying to standardize the terminology we use; the problem is that the original Japanese in the original series sort of slurs the line (Engrish) so it sounded like "Lilim" with an "M"...or at least, the English sub/dub assumed this is what they were saying. The word actually never appeared in print. However, the recent "Rebuild of Eva 1.0 : You Are (Not) Alone" film, in the preview for the next film during the credits, actually established that in Latin characters they use the spelling "Lilin" with an "N", and apparently they were always saying "Lilin" (compare to how "Alucard" got slurred as "Arucard" to the point that they honestly thought "it's Dracura spelled backwards!") So the problem is that I think this new appearance, for the first time, of the word in print as "Lilin" in Rebuild of Eva 1, establishes that it was always meant to be "Lilin" and the original English sub just got it wrong. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ( talk) 03:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
This article looks very much like someone's research paper. I'm just wondering if it should be sent to AFD, clean up, or merge/redirected to anime. -- Farix ( Talk) 13:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
If you didn't noticed yet it, an IP removed the prod tags, so now it is an Afd process. KrebMarkt 14:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
We need more eyes on Greg Ayres's article. There was a report from AFansView that he had been hospitalized, but the website is currently down and both Mania and ANN have pulled their versions of the story. That leaves any information about his current health unsourced. However, there have been repeated attempts to inserting unsourced information that is in clear violation of WP:BLP. -- Farix ( Talk) 23:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
While we don't usually need to archive our references, sometimes it is a must do. In those case you should archive your references here Web Citation. I recommend it strongly for references to Japanese websites that delete often their archives or old stuff. A special mention is for Animate (curse them), anime radio show specific pages are removed after their broadcast ended making difficult to prove that the show existed, the dates of broadcast and titles & contents of the show episodes. KrebMarkt 20:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I've went and updated this article. Could someone please do a new assessment? Sarujo ( talk) 17:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion occurring at Wikipedia talk:Notability (books)#multiple review do not mean notability questioning the validity of the first criteria of WP:BK and proposing changes to remove reviews as a viable indicator of notability. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 19:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
It has been suggested that Beyblade (anime), Beyblade V-Force, and Beyblade G-Revolution be merged back to Beyblade. Views welcome at Talk:Beyblade#Merge. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 00:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
The AfD for Akane-chan Overdrive closed as merge to Mizuki Kawashita. Following the usual procedure for a book to author merge, User:TheFarix redirected Akane-chan Overdrive to the Kawashita article, and added the appropriate release info to the Kawashita article. However, User:Kintetsubuffalo, one of the only ones saying keep, disagrees that the article was merged and continues repasting the entire article to the Kawashita article including the infobox, image, plot, characters, etc, [1] [2] [3]. He's also complained to the admin and to DreamFocus (only other keeper) about the merge. Additional views at Talk:Mizuki Kawashita#The debate was closed on 06 February 2009 with a consensus to merge appreciated regarding how much of the Akane-chan article should be merged or if TheFarix's actions were the only merging needed. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 19:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
More fun fun...the merge was done, then reduced to a short plot summary, which has since been removed as multiple editors noted that it doesn't belong in a biography article. Dream Focus disagrees, and after various attempts at forum shopping didn't yield the results he wanted, a new discussion has started. So yet again...views on whether or not a plot summary of Akane belongs in Kawashita's biography article would be appreciated at Talk:Mizuki Kawashita#consensus on summaries -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 16:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I had this put to me by someone cooperating with the tough task of merging the Ranma ½ characters (it's good to see not everyone who has heavily contributed to articles throws a hissy fit at procedure). The argument is to provide a link for people who want the excessive extra detail I am removing. I have no idea if wikia is a valid external link or not. It's not the end of the world if not as there are other sites to use, but in the interest of good faith and cooperation I thought I should ask. Dandy Sephy ( talk) 18:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
On a related note, Dream Focus is, one again, attempting to add the Gantz wiki link to Gantz, claiming that EL isn't valid after twisting a converstation at the EL talk page. Additional input at Talk:Gantz#The Gantz wiki link to, once again, weigh in on that link's inclusion would be appreciated. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 15:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
If only we could post faceplam images.... Dream Focus would be getting about 3 a day from me on his talk page Dandy Sephy ( talk) 16:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on cleaning up the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure related articles and plot summaries. Unfortunately, my knowledge of the series is limited to what I read from the first ten or so volumes of Viz Media's English edition of the third story arc and Jump Ultimate Stars.
There were several stand-alone articles for many non-notable supporting characters which I decided to merge into the articles for each arc (did we really needed an article on the Runaway Girl) and even then, most of the current articles are in need of serious copyediting. Especially the main JoJo, which gives little insight of the overall plot and publication history of the series, and Steel Ball Run. Jonny2x4 ( talk) 20:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Anyone care to comment on whether Alfred J. Kwak can be considered an anime series? It seems to have been produced by Japanese studios, but was based on a Dutch theater show. ANN has a page for it titled Ahiru no Quack. Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 20:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Animated or printed works produced for consumption outside of Japan that nevertheless draw on or are similar to Japanese media in terms of content or form...do not fall under our scope.
Since the first FLC of characters, we have been using ANN to cite every voice actor mentioned in the article. This tends to give every article more than 10 kb with voice actors refs (imagine the Dragon Ball characters who have had several English voice actors). Could there be a better way to source va without expanding too much the length of the article? Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 17:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Here the latest episode of the WP:N drama
Fold the GNG into WP:V
I pointed out that near every single Manga are referenced on
Anime News Network and would pass WP:V just by putting a ref to ANN.
Unless i misinterpreted the implication for WP:Manga, it smells insanity :( --
KrebMarkt
18:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
With certain editors stymieing recent attempts in merging/redirecting articles on non-notable manga from notable, or semi-notable authors, what course of action should the Wikiproject take? Should we start asking project members to avoid recommending "merge" in AFD discussions, or at the very least specify what content should be merged and what content shouldn't be merged if they make a merge recommendation?
This also brings up another consideration about what information should be included in a list of works. Of course we have WP:LOW#Books in languages other than English as a guidelines about what to include and how to format the content, but do we also want to include things such as magazines the manga was serialized in? And if so, how should that be incorporated into the list? -- Farix ( Talk) 23:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know anything about Victoria's The Little Merboy? IP 71.86.151.212 has been adding stuff about it to various articles today. I'm assuming it's vandalism and deleting all references because i can't find anything online about it. Tempest115 ( talk) 01:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC) They've also used this IP Address
I just created this article. If anyone wants to help filling in the episode summaries, feel free. I'll get to them as I can, but more people helping will make it go faster. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Anybody know if the "Terminology" section should remain and if so, why? It was readded by an IP, and when I queried him/her, they responded on my talk page and I'm unsure how to respond. Help would be appreciated. Thanks. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 19:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
{{ Cite episode}} has been nominated for deletion. Discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 February 16#Template:Cite episode if you'd like to offer your views.-- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 14:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be a brewing edit war over at Anime Pulse regarding referencing and cleanup tags. -- Farix ( Talk) 00:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
So where in Wikipedia's infinitely unindexed manual of style does it discuss what information is appropriate to include in a artist or writer article? Why, exactly, do we want to list only the bare-bones publication details for a mangaka, and not mention at least something about what the works are about? — Quasirandom ( talk) 01:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
After the GirlFriends (manga) AfD went off track, it was closed as "no consensus". It is now at DRV: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February 13#GirlFriends (manga) for revisiting of the closure and a requested relisting to allow further comments. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 15:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Answered :
Erika Friedman RS for yuri ?
She is RS for yuri field. --
KrebMarkt
22:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Should i put her on the Project references list with all precaution? It will avoid to have this discussion again and again -- KrebMarkt 06:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello, all. I was recently made aware that taking episode summaries from the companies that publish them (i.e. the episode summaries found on websites, iTunes, and in TV guides) was a copyvio. I have made several of these articles myself ( List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 2), List of Speed Grapher episodes) and I would like to confirm that this is in fact the case. While these technically are copyrighted, I would think that such episodes can be seen as fair-use, but I'm not entirely sure, so I'm bringing it up here. If these are in fact copyvios, we will need to CSD/AfD a high amount of lists and rework the way we view lists, and since these may be copyvios, resolving this is of the highest priority. Thanks for your consideration. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The feed for the FA, FA & biographies seems broken. I read that :
It doesn't come from
Portal:Anime and Manga/Selected article or the others two as no edit were made there in the last few months.
Any clue ? --
KrebMarkt
09:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a problem at List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 characters with an editor, Angas ( talk · contribs), that keeps changing the location of one of the character, but refuses to participate in the discussion on the talk page. The editor mostly edits under a dynamic IP in the 122.2.x.x range. Most all of the contributions from this editor and IP range is to move the character around and add their own annalists. -- Farix ( Talk) 16:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Since the Erika's Friedman issue, i think some RS brainstorming is needed.
My input :
Erika Friedman is RS BUT shouldn't be used to source anything controversial or BLP. That from the RS notice board.
I also put Comics Village & Comic Book Bin in the RS noticeboard for input.
At Quasirandom request The references pages of the project comics.
Another avenue is to check the parents TransWiki anime-manga project for RS. My first is prob is so-so. French Wiki have already listed the 2 big French manga/anime website as RS. The Italian is near-utter craps references wise but need another check. Japanese Anime/Manga project is too full of links and the language barrier doesn't help.
Please feel free to post your refs or discuss the posted ones. -- KrebMarkt 14:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I've got an editor over at Talk:Mobile Suit Gundam 00 insisting that the image in the infobox be an English cover or title instead of the Japanese DVD cover. Comments are welcomed. -- Farix ( Talk) 22:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm up against 3RR at this point - seems there is some insistance that this American comic use the animanga infoboxes, which I have addressed on both talk page and edit history - despite which I have now been given a warning that my "unexplained edits" may get me b&. Anyone else care to take a swat or three at this? 159.182.1.4 ( talk) 15:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Update: Extremepro solved our issue. He created the article for both OEL publication. I boldly took the opportunity to give him a Barnstar for his renewed work in our Requested Article Department. I also wrote something redirecting to the comics requests list for OEL.-- KrebMarkt 07:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
tvdrama-db.com I found this site while searching for episode dates. The published version is listed by Penn Library as one of their main research books for Japanese dramas, a lot of which cover anime. じん ない 02:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
As of now, there's no official Japanese versions of Italian TV series Winx Club. However, someone is adding false roles on the articles about Japanese voice actors. Examples are: Ayako Kawasumi being a voice of Bloom [9], and Naoko Matsui being a voice of Layla [10].
We need some idea to fix the situation like this. And we need closer co-operations with all the editions of Wikipedia and other sites, to prevent false facts being spread over the web. -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 11:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi All,
I'm looking for listings of Manga artists in Japan or elsewhere (particularly interested in the UK, China and Korea). Any suggestions? Thanks! -- SidiLemine 16:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
P3DRO has created 3 stub articles for characters from Lost Universe with no new information added. I've tagged these for merging and notified him, but should I go and redirect them or give him some time? The articles are bare-bones and I doubt without some very serious effort that any information added would be enough to justify notability beyond the main article. じん ない 17:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Over at Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal, a user has re-added the site "Anime Source" as a example of reception. I reverted the original addition of it because on the face of it, it appears to simply be yet another generic anime site. Setting aside that they haven't used a citation template and that they spent a dozen edits this morning on the same page working out anime-nfo is blacklisted, has anyone got any thoughts? Dandy Sephy ( talk) 00:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the ANN link could be discussed, while we all know ANN is a reliable source, the link and point being made is still based on its user reviews, which we state are not RS Dandy Sephy ( talk) 03:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I stumbled across this site from a seiyuu article here. It's a seiyuu database, but rather then being run by a random fan, it's run by a japanese baseball player! Hitoshi_Doi
The best thing is, the site is in english. Can someone more experienced then me decide if its possibly RS or not. I wish to use it in a few articles, so I'm throwing it out there. If not I'll settle for it being a valid External link if possible Dandy Sephy ( talk) 05:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Incidentally, I'm going to make a case, which I think is fairly compelling, for http://www.aestheticism.com/ - a yaoi fansite. Aestheticism was a print magazine in '96 and became a web page in '97. Sequential Tart, in an article apparently written by one of the Aestheticism team, credits it with being one of the early yaoi fan pages. [12] Aestheticism seems to have been a translation hub. [13] It seems to have provided support for Yaoi-Con in its infancy [14] Matt Thorn recommends it on his links page, it's used as a reference in the slash fiction and yaoi entries from the Encyclopedia of Erotic Literature (which were by different people - the yaoi one was written by Mark McHarry), Mark McLelland (university lecturer) used it as a reference in his bonking paper, as has Dru Pagliassotti (university lecturer) just last year, Mark McHarry (independant scholar, working on a forthcoming book with Antonia Levi of Samurai from Outer Space and Dru Pagliassotti on yaoi) has used it and describes it as "Extensive yaoi information, resources, reviews", Veruska Sabucco, an Italian researcher, used their site and mailing list to compile information for her paper "Guided Fan Fiction: Western "Readings" of Japanese Homosexual-Themed Texts", which is available in a book. Basically, whenever you're talking about the 1990s in the English-language yaoi fandom, or you're wanting some kind of a potted definition of all these terms people keep throwing around, or you want to know "Why do girls like yaoi?" or stylistic conventions of the genre (eg. censorship styles), Aestheticism is being cited in the literature. -- Malkinann ( talk) 10:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
After two tries on the RS notice board Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_27#cal.syoboi.jp Wikipedia:RS/N#cal.syoboi.jp_2nd_try, the RS board declined the request.
Can anyone give it a try and assess whatever it's RS ? There is around 8 FL using refs from this website. Thanks. -- KrebMarkt 08:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
<outdent> Ok At least cal.syoboi.jp can used as a lead to the related TV channels programs page.
For reference our last discussion about Class A Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 33#A-Class, for real
Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment started a Rfc about Class A
Wikipedia talk:ASSESS#Request for Comment regarding A-Class assessments
Resulting an Irc meeting :
Meeting summary
MeetingLog
And now things have been taken to
WT:CWG and the brainstorming continues in
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group
Our project will mostly not be affected as to quote Malkinann :
Part of the problem with A-class is that the content is meant to be "complete" - the people most likely to be able to assess that in terms of the manga and anime project's articles are the ones who are already working on the articles and seeking the assessment.
--
KrebMarkt
08:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Been meaning to ask this, but kept forgetting. Where is the cutoff line for what denotes an anime/manga video game? The issue came up with Rune Factory 2 because it uses anime characters for all personal interactions, but it has been contested. The scope says "Nor do media, particularly video games, in which anime or manga characters make incidental or out-of-context appearances." so I'm not sure if it qualifies as "incidental" usage. Furthermore RF2 also has a manga series based around it as well to help muddy the waters more. じん ない 01:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that the project seems to be leaning toward manga artist articles using {{ Infobox comics creator}} and cover images using {{ Non-free comic}}. Would this line of thinking extend to using {{ Cite comic}}? I mean, manga have more in common with comics than books in general. ~ Itzjustdrama C ? 01:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
A bit off topic : Can anyone tell if a video game adaptation of a Manga is an evidence of notability strong enough to pass WP:BK#3. Thanks. -- KrebMarkt 07:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Evidently, Tanoshimi has ceased acquiring new licenses or releasing new manga volumes, although they have stated that they intend to continue reprinting those volumes they've already released. [15] Can anyone find any press releases or other reliable sources talking about this? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 04:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
An anonymous editor just added a request for an article on Anime Tencho, with the following description: "a character who has appeared in several comedy anime, most notable Lucky Star. However, he is an official mascot of the Animate store, and has had his own manga and a short anime produced by Gainax, and thus has some amount of notability." It sounds interesting, but a (very cursory) search on my part isn't turning up muchmore than fansubs and passing mentions. Any thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 05:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
A discussion has been started to determine if Wanted should be redirected to author Matsuri Hino's article for failing WP:BK. Discussion can be found here: Talk:Wanted (manga)#Merge. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 05:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Page two & three of Google search results : Pop Culture Shock short Review Mania Review Comics Village Review that should settle not enough of RS reviews issue -- KrebMarkt 16:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Pulling out a comment made above, and elaborating: Given that more and more manga are not only being licensed in Europe but reviewed in those languages, I'd like to personally urge WikiProject members to not PROD or propose merging manga series articles without first posting notice to a central noticeboard (such as here), so that more eyes can look for evidence of notability in languages other than English. Stub series articles generally are generally not on many watchlists, so simply tagging one often doesn't result in much collaboration in the necessary searches.
Manga is international, as are reliable-source notices -- and we can't assume there aren't any, just because there aren't in English. — Quasirandom ( talk) 15:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, it's seems that this discussion Wikipedia_talk:BK#Translations_.3D_Notability in WP:BK ended with everyone having its home made, personal conclusion.
So, i want a clear consensus on this matter. (Being the one who concluded the previous discussion and passed for an idiot in the process)
Feel free to read the previous discussion log and give your interpretation on how ended that discussion. I may be an annoying barking dog but i want this settled down one way or another with no way to diverge in the interpretation either in inclusion or non-inclusion side.
Thanks you for spending time with my latest tantrum. --
KrebMarkt
15:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
<Outdent> Foreign languages should not be used as the primary argument in most discussion but should rather be used as tie breaker during those discussion. With our concerted effort, i think that a bunch of manga without English publisher are kept and will be, so people won't called us evils non-English haters. The point is that those articles are rather difficult to develop quality & verifiability wise. Translating reviews in English can be daunting. -- KrebMarkt 19:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
For an example - Zetsuai 1989 was one of the most famous series in English yaoi fandom in 1995, but it was never licensed in English, so there are few reviews, and it doesn't look notable at first glance. The Russian article is quite something, though. -- Malkinann ( talk) 03:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.
All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot ( Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 04:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
There is a proposal to overhaul {{ Infobox animanga}} at Template talk:Infobox animanga#Template consolidation that hasn't gotten much participation. Anyone care to go have a look and comment on it? (you'll want to make sure you've got a bit of time; the collapsed text is pretty lengthy) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 20:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
|live-action=yes
, which I believe the anime component already supports. --
Dinoguy1000 as
66.116.12.126 (
talk)
00:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Because i'm lazy, i'm dropping here some RS references links up to you to exploit them.
2008 Top 50 Manga, Oricon
2008 Top 10 Manga series, Oricon
2008 Most Interesting Manga, Oricon
2008 Top 25 Manga License, ICV2
Those numbers are all reprized in
Comipress 2008 batch of results
I have more to write that will be for later. --
KrebMarkt
15:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
That one 2ch Jump Log Warehouse isn't RS but the sources used there are near-all RS, ranging from news communiques to Shonen Jump Ad scans. Careful reading required thought as the numbers are declared in tens-thousands books sold. -- KrebMarkt 17:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
A peer review has been opened for Anime at Wikipedia:Peer review/Anime/archive1. Please comment on the review so that we can finally bring the article up to featured article status. -- Farix ( Talk) 19:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Mars was prodded. I deprodded it because I think it should be merged into First Robotech War. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated this articles for deletion : First Robotech War, Battle of Saturn's Rings, Battle of Mars, Second Robotech War, Third Robotech War and iam not sure if this article Robotech Wars needs to be deleted too?. It is timeline. Is it needed?.-- SkyWalker ( talk) 04:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I need some 3Os here about whether describing the actions of one character as murder is a neutral point of view or not. -- Farix ( Talk) 01:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
How are you supposed to deal with {{ Graphic novel list}} if you want to have more than one date and ISBN in the right-hand side? (ie. original Japanese, but also covering the German and French editions, as in Zetsuai 1989, a series which has never been licensed in English.) I feel that when a series is not licensed in English, covering licensing details of other languages is helpful, as the stories could be followed, if one was especially keen, by purchasing the French edition and then spending some quality time with MediaDico. -- Malkinann ( talk) 20:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
See Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Images_of_costumes_tagged_as_copyvios_by_AnimeFan. If successful, this can set a precedent that will result in deletion of all cosplay images from Wikimedia projects.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Articles involving Robotech and it series has loads of serious issues such has failing Notability guidelines. Yesterday i have merged some of the characters to List of Robotech characters and today the User:Hyperionsteel has reverted all the changes if this keeps going the only thing that is needed is to AFD them so a proper consensus be reached. Also there is several more articles that need consensus. Such has:
Optera, Tirol, Reflex Point, SDF-1 Macross, SDF-2 Megaroad-01, SDF-3 Pioneer, SDF-4 Izumo, Garfish class cruiser, Tristar-class cruiser, Veritech fighter, VF-1 Valkyrie, VFA-6 Alpha, VFB-9 Beta, VF-8 Logan, Rick Hunter, Lisa Hayes, Breetai, Exedore, Claudia Grant, Max Sterling, Miriya Parina Sterling, Macross operators, Dana Sterling, Scott Bernard, Ariel, T. R. Edwards, Haydonites, Invid, Robotech Elders, Robotech Masters, Maia Sterling • Zentradi, Zor Prime, First Robotech War, Battle of Saturn's Rings, Battle of Mars, Second Robotech War, Third Robotech War.
Suggested proposal is Deletion and Merging. All of this article fails notability and does not deserve to have own articles.
Articles to be merged List of Robotech characters:-.
Articles to be deleted:-
Not sure what to do with this: Some of them can be merged to Universe of Robotech.
What are your opinions?. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 03:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. There are too many characters to be merged and most of their articles are too long. Putting them all in one article will make it too lengthy and impracticable. They should remain separate. I've reverted the changes (twice now) because I feel strongly about this. I would appreciate more discussion before taking such an far-reaching course of action. ( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 03:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
Early in my Wikipedia career, I edited quite a few of these articles and even started a couple of them. As you can imagine, seeing them (and all the time and energy that went into them) merged or outright deleted would make me pretty sad. However that said, as a relatively impartial administrator on this site, I recognize that the vast majority of these articles fail -as independent, stand-alone articles- to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. Even using the "easier" notability criteria in the proposed WP:FICT notability guideline ("An element of fiction may satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article if it is central to understanding an important work of fiction and is the subject of significant real-world coverage from reliable sources."), I doubt that even a quarter of these articles could be saved. Long time editors of Wikipedia will immediately recognize this issue as one of reasons why in-universe wikis like Memory Alpha and Wookieepedia got their start (those not familiar can get the gist of it by reading the first paragraph or two of Wookieepedia#History). -- Kralizec! ( talk) 04:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
It's clear I'm alone in opposing this, so I won't fight against the inevitable. I've put a lot of work into many of these articles so I'm a little upset that you want to either delete or minimize them. I'd like to try and reach a compromise.
I have no problem with the following articles being merged: ( Lazlo Zand, Emil Lang, Nova Satori, Anatole Leonard).
With regard to Lynn Minmay and Lisa Hayes, I don't think merging the Robotech and Macross articles is a good idea. Robotech and Macross are not parallel universes. The English Robotech is a completely separate story arc from Macross. Also, Lisa Hayes in particular remains a notable character beyond the first Robotech Saga, none of which has a parallel in
Super Dimension Fortress Macross.
My past experience is that mixing Macross and Robotech articles is too confusing and complicated due to the different story lines, characters, translations, and events outside of the 36 original episodes.
For more minor characters (such as the Macross operators, this does work, but not with characters with long and complicated histories.( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 05:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC))
I think the VF-1 Valkyrie article can be salvaged, since it has third party sources that can be put into the article, because it was a popular toy, with mentions in toy magazines. As for the other vehicles, they can be merged into the list of vehicles. A Robotech universe article sounds like a good idea. I think that Zentraedi and Invid should remain separate articles, since they are main features of this fictional universe. Robotech Wars should also merge into the universe article. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
-Possible third party sources, should anyone have the print issues -- Protoculture Addicts and Mecha Press 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 06:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Someone posted about this on the wikicomic project - having looked at some of the articles, I'd suggest you get merging/transwiking pretty quickly before people like me start AFDing the articles. -- Cameron Scott ( talk) 11:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Is http://anime-wiki.org an eligible target for transwiki? The articles before we start merging things together, as-is, might be transwikied there. 76.66.193.90 ( talk) 11:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I have merged this following articles for failing WP:Notability and WP:Fiction guidelines Lazlo Zand, Emil Lang, Nova Satori, Anatole Leonard, Dolza, Lynn Minmay, Marcus Rush and Maia Sterling
The articles which have not been merged yet are :- Breetai, Exedore, Claudia Grant, Max Sterling, Miriya Parina Sterling, Macross operators, Dana Sterling, Scott Bernard, Ariel (Robotech), T. R. Edwards, Robotech Elders and Zor Prime
More discussion is needed. -- SkyWalker ( talk) 04:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I think that Claudia Grant, the Macross Operators, and Zor Prime could be merged. However, the other characters are more central to the Robotech plot and the series as a whole (which spans 3 generations). They should not be merged.( Hyperionsteel ( talk) 23:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC))
Stub class prevents an article from becoming a DYK. Could you reassess Viper's Creed to a Start class? Many DYK articles that are shorter and less developed than this article are not rated as a stub class on the talk page. Regards, — Mattisse ( Talk) 01:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Could someone with nihongo skillz assist with the names and titles listed in High School Debut#Light novels? I'd appreciate it. — Quasirandom ( talk) 22:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I've added a search field in the archive box to allow searching of just the archives of this page. Enjoy! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:16, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
How does The Anime Critic measure up? -- Masamage ♫ 22:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Can someone provide me with a list of GA or B-class seiyū's? I'm trying to get Mamoru Miyano's article (which was a mess up until yesterday) up to a GA status but I have nothing to base it on. So if a list can be provided it'll be a great help. ~Moon~ 月 と 暁~Sunrise~ 22:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
If you're interested, we have the Biography Workgroup. There's only four members right now so we're kind of limited in what we can do. We have a Seiyu stub category but as far as I know we don't have any developed Seiyu articles. -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 20:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The mergers have been slow, but going well. Sourcing has improved on the character list tremendously, though there is a lot that could be done. Still, I'm battling lots of insertions of original research and of excessive plot details and I can use some help here. I could also use some help with the growing charges that I'm not actually cleaning up the articles but "merely destroy [ sic] other Wikipedians' hard work". -- Farix ( Talk) 01:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
A discussion has been started at Talk:Mayu Sakai#Nagatachō Strawberry merge to determine whether Nagatachō Strawberry should be redirected to its author's article as it fails WP:BK. It was already redirected, however DreamFocus (as usual) reverted it. The article survived an AfD in January, but on the basis of only two comments both of which were based on the now non-existent notability criteria that was also rejected in WP:BK discussions. So additional views on whether it should be redirected/merged appreciated at the discussion. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 13:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
If the ANN encyclopedia section is regarded as unreliable, how about the reviews section of ANN? I believe that if their news section is regarded as reliable, so too should be their reviews. -- Malkinann ( talk) 23:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I came across a mention of the book Manga: The Complete Guide, and I realised I had enough reviews and interviews on it to make a notability-passing article on it, plus there was a red link, and we all know that Wiki abhors a vacuum. ;) However, now it needs attention from someone who's actually read the book, or better yet, owns a copy. Thanks. -- Malkinann ( talk) 08:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Flags in the Infobox regarding the use of flags in the infobox. Views appreciated. :) -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 02:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Earlier today, I removed the image check in {{ Infobox animanga character}} that automatically categorizes the article to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of anime and manga if it lacked an image. Instead, I added the check to {{ Infobox animanga/Header}} instead. I did this for two reason. First, most character article are of non-notable characters which should be merged. It's simply a waste of time to sort though the chaff to find the wheat. This point was previously discussed in an earlier discussion. Second, we generally want the main articles to contain an illustration, whether it be the cover of the first volume, film poster, publicity image, or whatever. Rarely do we need to merge articles at this level. It is also much easier to obtain these images and create non-free use rationals for them. Hopefully, this change will make the category easier to maintain. -- Farix ( Talk) 22:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Before I head off and start nominating some article in the Hentai category, I like to know the status of two websites for reviews. First, Animetric ( http://www.animetric.com/) is referred to as both a self-published website and "reliable source", but I'm not seeing any discussion about it. Are there any examples where its reviews were quoted in more mainstream publication, as the description on the project page states? The best I can find is that they were quoted in a handful of ADV press releases in '04 and '05.
Second is Hentai Neko ( http://www.hentaineko.com/), which also appears to be a self-published website. However, I can't find anything about the contributors of the website to tell for sure. It's connected somehow with Otaku Fringe ( http://www.otakufridge.com), which judging from its "about" page is not a reliable source because reviews are user submitted. -- Farix ( Talk) 11:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
An new user has boldly reworked List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED characters. I was probably too wordy in comments on the editor's talk page, but I thought the previous organization (by faction) would be easier to source, while the current organization would be much harder to source. Either way, please comment about the changes and which version you feel is better. Edward321 ( talk) 00:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The above discussion gives me an excuse to ask about something that's been bothering me for some time now: is there any particular reason the various Gundam SEED articles use that capitalization? Having read one ( two?) of the Seed manga series, I can't see any reason for it to be completely capitalized (it's not an abbreviation or anything). Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 19:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Started this month, but I only just found out about it. A separate sublist of the New York Times "Graphic Books (sic) Bestseller List", that is. You might be able to guess who's dominating it: the week of 28 February, it was ALL Naruto except for two Dark Horse titles, and last week all Naruto except for a volume each of three other Viz titles. Something to keep an eye on, and possibly add to the reception sections of MPD-Psycho (which needs an article move), Eden, Bleach, The Gentlemen's Alliance Cross, and Black Cat. Oh, I suppose Naruto as well, if you think it important. — Quasirandom ( talk) 22:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
With ANN's encyclopedia no longer considered RS, I'm trying to find new sources for the Tokyo Mew Mew episode list air dates to salvage its future FL status :) In hunting around, I found one possible sources that appears to have all of the series airdates, but I can't tell for sure if it meets WP:RS due to the limitations of translators. http://www.anime.marumegane.com/ has Takashi Murakami's name on it, which would seem to make it very likely to be RS. The top logo says "Anime Information Survey Office", but I can't find any kind of "about us link"so further views definitely needed. Help! :) -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 02:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I devised a new organization scheme for List of GetBackers characters, I was wondering if someone who was familiar with the series or had experience with character lists could take a look at it. The plan is here. Also, is GetBackers the appropriate capitalization of that name? Shouldn't it be Getbackers? -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 21:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on a new set of notability guidelines for manga series that should be slightly more lenient than the current WP:BK, which is extremely hard for manga to pass. I've noticed that very few manga pages that fail WP:BK are in fact nominated for deletion (series like Bitter Virgin). However, for series like Hunter × Hunter or xxxHolic, which do not currently pass a strict interpretation of WP:BK, notability needs to be declared. Please see User:NocturneNoir/Sandbox/Notability (manga) and perhaps comment on the talk page. At this time, this idea is very very sandboxy; I would like criticism and not an outright vote. Thanks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR ( t • c) 21:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
If you have a moment and some interested, why not browse the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga list. There are nine articles currently up for AfD, and a few of those discussions discussions which are not generating enough comments so they are starting to have to be relisted. Additional views would be useful. -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 00:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)