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The consensus is to add MetroLyrics to Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#List of unreliable sources (with link to relevant discussion), which has been done. Cunard ( talk) 02:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Following the discussion at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#MetroLyrics songwriters miscredits, an addition to Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#List of unreliable sources (with link to relevant discussion) is proposed:
Any comments? If there are no objections, I'll add this to the list. — Ojorojo ( talk) 18:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Added to the list. Thanks for your interest. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello! Would anyone in this WikiProject be interested in talking to me for a Signpost article? If so, please ping me! Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 20:40, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I believe Trouser Press, and its website, TrouserPress.com, is a notable source and should be included in the list of good sources. FamblyCat94 ( talk) 23:49, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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A request was made here. Thanks. Dan56 ( talk) 05:36, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
I've posted here about my concerns that several of the template links originally used for various countries in the certification table no longer work – as the members of this project will use this template for their album articles I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments. Richard3120 ( talk) 16:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Addendum: I've made an additional comment about another issue which has resulted from the above problem. Richard3120 ( talk) 01:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone have a copy of Martin C. Strong's The Great Rock Discography (2004)? I'd appreciate if someone could tell me what score is given to a few albums I've been writing articles on. Ping me if you respond here. Dan56 ( talk) 16:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There is an open question at template talk:Infobox album#Studio parameter, take #2 that could use more input. Piriczki ( talk) 18:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I'd like to update Template:Suzanne Vega and Suzanne Vega discography with a sane list of her recordings. Especially her live catalogue seems to be not clear - which recordings are important and why this one is marked as not notable enough for example? - kocio ( talk) 13:15, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Just a heads up to participants of a discussion at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Mass_DiscoDogs. The basic question is when an article should contain a link to a connected Discogs page. My assumption was that it's fair game to add e.g. Template:Discogs artist to articles about artists, but I'm not seeing anything in e.g. this WikiProject's style guide supporting that. I don't actually have a strong opinion about this, but if you do you may want to participate there. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
I would appreciate input on a discussion at Talk:Blink of an Eye (Tori Kelly song).
One editor says PopCrush is not reliable. The other says it's the author, not the website, to whom reliability applies.
Thanks in advance. — ATS 🖖 Talk 18:59, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
FYI, I requested for comments at WT:NCM about the current wording of WP:ALBUMDAB. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 21:54, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi all, I don't have much experience gnoming in the world of album articles and TheAmazingPeanuts asked me a question that I do not know the answer to:
|producer=
parameter. Rodeo, for example, has 27 producers listed. I don't see anything at
Template:Infobox album that would explicitly prevent the inclusion of a collapsible list, but I also know that some WikiProjects (Film, Television...) tend to discourage these ponderous lists. Anybody have an idea what the community preference is on this? If they're cool, would any of you consider adding that to the template instructions so it's clear to other editors?If any of you would be kind enough to answer, would you mind pinging TheAmazingPeanuts as well, please? Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:03, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
I think that it would be a good idea, yes. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 13:44, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Collapsibility We simply shouldn't have collapsing anything unless strictly necessary as it is difficult for many users to interact with the page. Accessibility is a priority. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:29, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
@ IndianBio: How that a manual of style while Wikipedia's guidelines didn't even say we should add a collapsible list in the infobox. If you're gonna hide anything, why should the whole producer list should even been there in the first place? TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 07:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
A discussion about including cover versions in song infoboxes has been started at Template talk:Infobox song#"Cover versions" parameters in infobox song. Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
RfC To get more input, an RfC has been opened at WT:SONG#RfC: Should "Cover versions"/"alt Artists" be removed from Infobox songs? Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 19:31, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone have a subscription to thetimes.co.uk? Or at least an internet browser that will load the image atop the review at this link? It's likely some star rating, but the image won't load on any browser I've tried, showing only a white X in a small black box (IE, Firefox, no luck). Dan56 ( talk) 21:39, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ctrl
/Cmd+U
. Look through the HTML and just before the text of the review (which begins with "Alumni..."), you can find the URI for this image which is supposed to display but, as you rightly point out, does not and furthermore redirects you to their homepage. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 22:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. We need input from WikiProject Albums members at Talk:Ride_the_Lightning#For_Whom_the_Bell_Tolls.-- Gibson Flying V ( talk) 15:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
On the
EVOLution article,
Anonpediann and an IP editor from Israel using multiple IPs insist on removing the four singles after "On Purpose" from the infobox, because they are "not official" or "promotional" singles. To me,
Template:Infobox album#Template:Singles seems to make it clear that they should be included: "The {{
Singles}} template may be used as a miscellaneous addition to the infobox providing concise information about songs on the album that were released as singles during the marketing and promotion of the album.
"
Anonpediann said that the documentation mentions the ambiguity about the promotional nature of the singles, but if anything, that seems to reinforce that these singles should be included as they clearly fit the definition. I also mentioned that "All We Have Is Love" was also
released as a separate single on iTunes, I don't know what better proof there would be for a single being "official".
nyuszika7h (
talk) 14:37, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
This is regarding the article about the album "Live Grape" by former members of the band Moby Grape. The article states that the recordings were done at several clubs in the Santa Cruz California area. That is incorrect. I was there for much of the recordings. And I have the original vinyl album and cover. It says right on the back of the cover, that the recording was done at the Shady Grove in the Haight Ashbury in San Francisco CA and at the Inn Of The Beginning in Cotati CA. I was one of three partners of Shady Grove. The band played there many times from May 1976 - late 1978. The recording was done by Sonoma Recording. There were ten nights of recording, six at Shady Grove and four at The Inn Of The Beginning. I joined Wikipedia just so I could correct this article. I did so, but didn't have a way to verify it, so my edit was undone. Well, the album cover is the evidence. Could somebody more savvy with Wikipedia fix it? Is there a way I can post a photo of the album cover back? Or could I email a photo to someone that knows how to use Wikipedia?
Sailrick ( talk) 03:48, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated Aries (album) as a featured article candidate and am requesting feedback. The FAC can be found here. Erick ( talk) 12:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
I am looking for further input at the RFC located here. (Please note that its not about genre-warring itself, but more of a general WP:MOS issue.) Thank you! Sergecross73 msg me 01:00, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
For lots of album articles the UK chart position info refers to the www.chartstats.com website, which for legal reasons is no longer on-line, effectively making all these links "dead links". All these references will therefore have to be replaced by references to the appropriate entry on the UK Official Charts website, section Archives here. I am not up to that task, maybe someone out there is ? Regards and good luck. 81.82.165.17 ( talk) 21:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello. I'm wondering if you could solve this problem:
I found in a review of Joanne at AllMusic an admin saying about it "Gaga's feet remain firmly planted in dance-pop even when she brings in Father John Misty, Beck, Florence Welch, and Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age for collaborations." I think we can cleary see that the journalist is labeling the album as dance-pop. [1] Anyway, an admin says it's original research and that i made my own assertion about it. What do you think?
Thanks. Anonpediann ( talk) 19:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
What is the community's thought on this website? — IB [ Poke ] 08:35, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
|ADM=
parameter for
AnyDecentMusic? was added by
Mr. Stradivarius, who is one of the administrators. And just like
Metacritic, the guidelines doesn't say do not add it in the template.
TheAmazingPeanuts (
talk) 03:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
I suggest this category be split into greatest hits type compilations by a single artist; and various artists compilations. A P Monblat ( talk) 05:03, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I would appreciate any participation in the RfC located here, regarding whether Nightride should be labelled as a mixtape or album. TheKaphox T 22:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello, i want to know if in a release that doesn't has revealed credits it serves the confirmation in Twitter by the producer. Anonpediann ( talk) 20:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Genius can be edited by anyone. It can be considered a reliable source for credits? Anonpediann ( talk) 19:55, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm looking at Fours Deuces & Trays . Neither of the cited sources verifies that it charted. Where can that be looked up? Yngvadottir ( talk) 18:39, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
That's too bad that Allmusic no longer tracks that, though it's info could usually be found just fine at billboard or the respective chart's websites. It was just more convenient to use AllMusic since I was frequently already referencing it for other parts of the album. Sergecross73 msg me 17:16, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
No information is given about the Rwake 1998 demo, re-released 2004 album by House of Mummble. Can more be added to the existing page? Hallow88 ( talk) 05:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea, can anyone else say if they are reliable sources? It is almost a 20 year old demo, how would there be a more reliable source written in the past, these articles might be all there is. Hallow88 ( talk) 23:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Rwake-Hell is the door to the sun album page. If the reissued version of this album info was added to the page, how can it be determined if the album cover photo is able to be shown? Hallow88 ( talk) 19:23, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
Have a version of Origin that appears to be a demo, not released by Bigwig Enterprsies only manufactured & distributed. The recording of the songs is somewhat different and are in mono but encoded with stereo playback. Have the released version of Origin by Bigwig Enterprises but it does not have mono playback only stereo and the track times are different. If this information was added to the album page, what kind of reference would it need? Hallow88 ( talk) 14:13, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Officially released album containing a track from Origin and dated 1999, and also saying its from the forthcoming independent release. Can this be a reliable source? Hallow88 ( talk) 16:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Can you explain how they are not official? Look official to me, they even have IFPI codes. Yes, they are compilation cds but released with authorization. Please explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallow88 ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
The references for Listen To The Rain shows nothing about this song, where is that information coming from and if it was cut from Eternal and Demise then how does the references show it exists at all? This version that is shown on Wikipedia has no piano and rain part, what is that part then? Hallow88 ( talk) 04:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I see no point in removing citation needed, until a source is added. Hallow88 ( talk) 20:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
ORIGIN Cover - Noticed when looking at the details of the album cover it says it believed to be credited to Bigwig Enterprises, or the graphic artists. Album shows - (cover photo by Rocky Gray) - seems strange. This information is not on the article page.
Can anyone explain how this is correct or wrong? Hallow88 ( talk) 01:01, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
This being an officially announced unofficial release, then the only way to say the information is correct would be based on the playback format and track times (officially sourced), unless the band announces the exact true demo information. Being unofficial, nothing has backing up to the correct release. Hallow88 ( talk) 04:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that would be the way that would answer all questions Hallow88 ( talk) 04:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
If a recording was released only as a promo, should it be linked in sequence with the commercial releases in a band's chronology in the infobox?
Case in point: "Band" = The Firesign Theatre
Prior chronology link:
Not Insane or Anything You Want To (1972) -> A Firesign Chat With Papoon (1972 promo) -> The Tale of the Giant Rat of Sumatra (1974)
I removed the Papoon promo from the chain, directly linking Giant Rat to Not Insane. What is the consensus? Does it make sense to include a group's promo discs in the chronology? (I don't think so.) Logically, that would mean you would have to include every one. (E.g. Every Beatles promo?) As I understand it, most promos must go largely without public notice since they're not commercially released. JustinTime55 ( talk) 19:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
There is a
current discussion regarding the addition of |Studio =
and |Venue =
parameters to
Template:Infobox single and
Template:Infobox song. This would bring them into line with the current
Template:Infobox album usage. Please add your comments at
Template talk:Infobox single#"Studio" addition. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 16:53, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
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Too many quotes are used. They should be paraphrased or something. I couldn't raise the issue at the nearly neglected talk page. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
It's is okay to add Metacritic score both in the album ratings template, and in the critical reception section? It is told it's gratuitous but I think it's better for an "at a glance" point of view. I ask this because the guidelines has never said do not add Metacritic in both sections at the same article. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 13:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
|ADM=
parameter for AnyDecentMusic? and added in the template, you won't make a big deal about Metacritic being the only thing added in the album ratings template. I accepted it if the website have a source for these albums.
TheAmazingPeanuts (
talk) 16:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
The bulk of the information should be in prose format, though the text may be supplemented with the Album ratings template, as a summary of professional reviews in table form. The template is not to be a substitute for a section in paragraph form, since a review cannot be accurately boiled down to a simple rating out of five stars or other scoring system.
There are other aggregate websites (ce.
AnyDecentMusic?) that can also be highlighted, so why favor Metacritic? More importantly, Wikipedia articles should be written with
the general reader in mind; one can hardly be considered a reader if they overlook a section's worth of prose to glance at a tiny box listing scores. I also don't see how having a sentence summarizing critical consensus ("generally positive reviews", for instance) in both the lead and the body doesn't say enough about how an album was received to the reader and they would need an average score also, a score which may seem arbitrary to many readers since it's in one's own mind what level of score would be considered "good" or "positive". As for there being other articles where editors have edited this way, it's not relevant (
WP:OTHERSTUFF).
Dan56 (
talk) 16:40, 26 October 2016 (UTC)noprose=yes/no
. The template, in these cases, serves as a repository for useful links to build a section of prose from, Metacritic's entry page for a certain album being one of them. There are still articles that are still lacking in sections covering critical response and have only scores that were moved into the template; Metacritic being in the template in this case was an initial step to hold information there until a section is fleshed out.
Dan56 (
talk) 16:40, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Also of note is WP:ALBUMS itself stance, specifically WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES example, where it shows using both. The other WikiProject I was speaking about was WP:VG. WP:VG/S it's acceptable for prose, WP:VGAGG says it's acceptable for review table. The WikiProject is very active and only adds to these things if there is an active community discussion and consensus. Sergecross73 msg me 01:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
I nominated the article for Latin Grammy Hall of Fame for FLC.I'd appreciate thee feedback! Erick ( talk) 01:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Should an album article indicate the existence of an EP with the same name? The owner of the article Lucid (album) removed the hatnote indicating the existence of Lucid EP or even the dab page. I think it should have a hatnote, what do you think? -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 04:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
My nomination of House of Music for featured status is up. Any reviews or comments would be appreciated. Happy Turkey Day! Dan56 ( talk) 15:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I think some aspects of the album MOS are vague. "Charts" or "Chart positions" -- or sometimes I see, "Personnel" and "Credits and personnel", "Reception" or "Critical reception". I was hoping to start a conversation to hone in on what other editors are seeing or might be confused about and hopefully tighten the guidelines of our Album MOS. My stances are it should be "Chart positions", with Certifications in its own section; "Critical reception" when talking about reviews of any kind but "Reception" for a combined section [Critical and commercial if they're too short]; and "Personnel" for all types of credits. -- Jennica✿ / talk 16:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
It's not set in stone that everyone must use these headings. Every article is different and requires different sections depending on the circumstances. Why are we trying to fix something that isn't broken? — Calvin999 12:10, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Ahh nevermind I guess. I thought it would be good to refine and tighten the guidelines a little more. I like uniformity and was trying to get a general consensus. Koavf encouraged me to write about this and I kinda sorta knew people would disagree with me. -- Jennica✿ / talk 20:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Should songs be categorized into albums categories? At See You Again (Wiz Khalifa song) my removal of the song from the albums category was reverted [7] ; it was still categorized into the property category. -- 65.94.168.229 ( talk) 05:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
A public request for comment was posted for a discussion on this question, and your input would be welcome: Talk:Unknown Pleasures#RfC: Italics for Pitchfork (website) magazine?. — BLZ · talk 18:55, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Just wondering if this website is considered to be a reliable source? I see a lot of album reviews. Thank you.-- TerryAlex ( talk) 06:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to take Wildflower (The Avalanches album) to FA, but I've never brought any article to FA before. It just passed GAR and I'm looking for someone to mentor me through the FA process or at least provide a peer review because I don't normally edit music articles and I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing. TarkusAB 23:14, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I've nominated This England (album) for Featured article status. Project members are invited to participate in the Featured article candidate discussion. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 06:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
The proposal to merge the soundtrack into Dust of Angels is discussed. I invite you to improve consensus. -- George Ho ( talk) 21:04, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_8#Category:Comedy_albums_by_decade Leave your thoughts. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 18:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Would someone from WP:ALBUM mind taking a look at Pat McGee Band#Discography? A number of stand-alone articles were created for this band's albums, but none of them are supported by citations to reliable sources except for Save Me (Pat McGee Band album), and even the sourcing for that article is questionable at best. Some of the article were released by Warner or one of its subsidiaries, so perhaps that helps with WP:NALBUM, but a number of the independent releases seem to be of suspect Wikipedia notability and seem to fail all of the NALBUM criteria. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:49, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Discuss such a case at an RfC at Talk:Dust of Angels if you care. — AjaxSmack 01:58, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Dear editors, I have scheduled an A-class review for the article Rebel Heart in its talk page here. Would any uninvolved editors please provide their review comment and support or oppose for the promotion, based on the criteria. — IB [ Poke ] 05:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello. I was wondering if anyone knew where to find archives of NME and Q Magazine. The Wikipedia Library's list of available periodicals doesn't include either of them. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 04:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I was wondering if it was worth making a category for "Postmodern music albums", as a subcategory for Category:Postmodern music. I've seen several albums cited as "postmodern" in their articles and wondered if it was worth gathering them all in a category? -- TangoTizerWolfstone ( talk) 09:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
A request was made here. Thanks. -- Efe ( talk) 21:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Tribute albums Four years ago or so, there were maybe a dozen subcategories of this by artist being given tribute and each of those had several entries. I have suggested for deletion many such subcategories that only contained a few entries. The most recent was here. I took a look at the parent to see that it had ballooned to having almost 200 subcategories, almost all of which are in the single digits of entries. It seems like there's a systematic attempt to empty the category. Does anyone know about this or have strong feelings on it? I think that it's wise to restrict subcategorization to categories which only have ~<5 entries. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 06:38, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Isn't there a Wikipedia rule that says that an album can not be added to an album's discography list if it hasn't been released yet? Example
I just want to know because this may fit the criteria for En Vogue#Discography whereas User:Cultureinject keeps adding "Electric Cafe" to the list even though it has yet-to-be released. It has no official release date other than saying "2017 and it was pushed back in 2016. Horizonlove ( talk) 23:00, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I have been working on the article about Blind Man's Zoo by 10,000 Maniacs. I may need help on reviewing the sources and the content for copyediting. -- George Ho ( talk) 11:37, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 50 | Archive 51 | Archive 52 | Archive 53 | Archive 54 | Archive 55 | → | Archive 60 |
The consensus is to add MetroLyrics to Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#List of unreliable sources (with link to relevant discussion), which has been done. Cunard ( talk) 02:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Following the discussion at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#MetroLyrics songwriters miscredits, an addition to Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#List of unreliable sources (with link to relevant discussion) is proposed:
Any comments? If there are no objections, I'll add this to the list. — Ojorojo ( talk) 18:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Added to the list. Thanks for your interest. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hello! Would anyone in this WikiProject be interested in talking to me for a Signpost article? If so, please ping me! Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 20:40, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I believe Trouser Press, and its website, TrouserPress.com, is a notable source and should be included in the list of good sources. FamblyCat94 ( talk) 23:49, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the considerations at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and maybe even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
Many thanks and best wishes,
Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 00:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
A request was made here. Thanks. Dan56 ( talk) 05:36, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
I've posted here about my concerns that several of the template links originally used for various countries in the certification table no longer work – as the members of this project will use this template for their album articles I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments. Richard3120 ( talk) 16:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Addendum: I've made an additional comment about another issue which has resulted from the above problem. Richard3120 ( talk) 01:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone have a copy of Martin C. Strong's The Great Rock Discography (2004)? I'd appreciate if someone could tell me what score is given to a few albums I've been writing articles on. Ping me if you respond here. Dan56 ( talk) 16:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There is an open question at template talk:Infobox album#Studio parameter, take #2 that could use more input. Piriczki ( talk) 18:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I'd like to update Template:Suzanne Vega and Suzanne Vega discography with a sane list of her recordings. Especially her live catalogue seems to be not clear - which recordings are important and why this one is marked as not notable enough for example? - kocio ( talk) 13:15, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Just a heads up to participants of a discussion at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Mass_DiscoDogs. The basic question is when an article should contain a link to a connected Discogs page. My assumption was that it's fair game to add e.g. Template:Discogs artist to articles about artists, but I'm not seeing anything in e.g. this WikiProject's style guide supporting that. I don't actually have a strong opinion about this, but if you do you may want to participate there. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
I would appreciate input on a discussion at Talk:Blink of an Eye (Tori Kelly song).
One editor says PopCrush is not reliable. The other says it's the author, not the website, to whom reliability applies.
Thanks in advance. — ATS 🖖 Talk 18:59, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
FYI, I requested for comments at WT:NCM about the current wording of WP:ALBUMDAB. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 21:54, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi all, I don't have much experience gnoming in the world of album articles and TheAmazingPeanuts asked me a question that I do not know the answer to:
|producer=
parameter. Rodeo, for example, has 27 producers listed. I don't see anything at
Template:Infobox album that would explicitly prevent the inclusion of a collapsible list, but I also know that some WikiProjects (Film, Television...) tend to discourage these ponderous lists. Anybody have an idea what the community preference is on this? If they're cool, would any of you consider adding that to the template instructions so it's clear to other editors?If any of you would be kind enough to answer, would you mind pinging TheAmazingPeanuts as well, please? Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:03, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
I think that it would be a good idea, yes. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 13:44, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Collapsibility We simply shouldn't have collapsing anything unless strictly necessary as it is difficult for many users to interact with the page. Accessibility is a priority. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:29, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
@ IndianBio: How that a manual of style while Wikipedia's guidelines didn't even say we should add a collapsible list in the infobox. If you're gonna hide anything, why should the whole producer list should even been there in the first place? TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 07:31, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
A discussion about including cover versions in song infoboxes has been started at Template talk:Infobox song#"Cover versions" parameters in infobox song. Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
RfC To get more input, an RfC has been opened at WT:SONG#RfC: Should "Cover versions"/"alt Artists" be removed from Infobox songs? Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 19:31, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone have a subscription to thetimes.co.uk? Or at least an internet browser that will load the image atop the review at this link? It's likely some star rating, but the image won't load on any browser I've tried, showing only a white X in a small black box (IE, Firefox, no luck). Dan56 ( talk) 21:39, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ctrl
/Cmd+U
. Look through the HTML and just before the text of the review (which begins with "Alumni..."), you can find the URI for this image which is supposed to display but, as you rightly point out, does not and furthermore redirects you to their homepage. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 22:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. We need input from WikiProject Albums members at Talk:Ride_the_Lightning#For_Whom_the_Bell_Tolls.-- Gibson Flying V ( talk) 15:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
On the
EVOLution article,
Anonpediann and an IP editor from Israel using multiple IPs insist on removing the four singles after "On Purpose" from the infobox, because they are "not official" or "promotional" singles. To me,
Template:Infobox album#Template:Singles seems to make it clear that they should be included: "The {{
Singles}} template may be used as a miscellaneous addition to the infobox providing concise information about songs on the album that were released as singles during the marketing and promotion of the album.
"
Anonpediann said that the documentation mentions the ambiguity about the promotional nature of the singles, but if anything, that seems to reinforce that these singles should be included as they clearly fit the definition. I also mentioned that "All We Have Is Love" was also
released as a separate single on iTunes, I don't know what better proof there would be for a single being "official".
nyuszika7h (
talk) 14:37, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
This is regarding the article about the album "Live Grape" by former members of the band Moby Grape. The article states that the recordings were done at several clubs in the Santa Cruz California area. That is incorrect. I was there for much of the recordings. And I have the original vinyl album and cover. It says right on the back of the cover, that the recording was done at the Shady Grove in the Haight Ashbury in San Francisco CA and at the Inn Of The Beginning in Cotati CA. I was one of three partners of Shady Grove. The band played there many times from May 1976 - late 1978. The recording was done by Sonoma Recording. There were ten nights of recording, six at Shady Grove and four at The Inn Of The Beginning. I joined Wikipedia just so I could correct this article. I did so, but didn't have a way to verify it, so my edit was undone. Well, the album cover is the evidence. Could somebody more savvy with Wikipedia fix it? Is there a way I can post a photo of the album cover back? Or could I email a photo to someone that knows how to use Wikipedia?
Sailrick ( talk) 03:48, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I have nominated Aries (album) as a featured article candidate and am requesting feedback. The FAC can be found here. Erick ( talk) 12:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
I am looking for further input at the RFC located here. (Please note that its not about genre-warring itself, but more of a general WP:MOS issue.) Thank you! Sergecross73 msg me 01:00, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
For lots of album articles the UK chart position info refers to the www.chartstats.com website, which for legal reasons is no longer on-line, effectively making all these links "dead links". All these references will therefore have to be replaced by references to the appropriate entry on the UK Official Charts website, section Archives here. I am not up to that task, maybe someone out there is ? Regards and good luck. 81.82.165.17 ( talk) 21:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello. I'm wondering if you could solve this problem:
I found in a review of Joanne at AllMusic an admin saying about it "Gaga's feet remain firmly planted in dance-pop even when she brings in Father John Misty, Beck, Florence Welch, and Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age for collaborations." I think we can cleary see that the journalist is labeling the album as dance-pop. [1] Anyway, an admin says it's original research and that i made my own assertion about it. What do you think?
Thanks. Anonpediann ( talk) 19:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
What is the community's thought on this website? — IB [ Poke ] 08:35, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
|ADM=
parameter for
AnyDecentMusic? was added by
Mr. Stradivarius, who is one of the administrators. And just like
Metacritic, the guidelines doesn't say do not add it in the template.
TheAmazingPeanuts (
talk) 03:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
I suggest this category be split into greatest hits type compilations by a single artist; and various artists compilations. A P Monblat ( talk) 05:03, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I would appreciate any participation in the RfC located here, regarding whether Nightride should be labelled as a mixtape or album. TheKaphox T 22:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello, i want to know if in a release that doesn't has revealed credits it serves the confirmation in Twitter by the producer. Anonpediann ( talk) 20:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Genius can be edited by anyone. It can be considered a reliable source for credits? Anonpediann ( talk) 19:55, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm looking at Fours Deuces & Trays . Neither of the cited sources verifies that it charted. Where can that be looked up? Yngvadottir ( talk) 18:39, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
That's too bad that Allmusic no longer tracks that, though it's info could usually be found just fine at billboard or the respective chart's websites. It was just more convenient to use AllMusic since I was frequently already referencing it for other parts of the album. Sergecross73 msg me 17:16, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
No information is given about the Rwake 1998 demo, re-released 2004 album by House of Mummble. Can more be added to the existing page? Hallow88 ( talk) 05:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea, can anyone else say if they are reliable sources? It is almost a 20 year old demo, how would there be a more reliable source written in the past, these articles might be all there is. Hallow88 ( talk) 23:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Rwake-Hell is the door to the sun album page. If the reissued version of this album info was added to the page, how can it be determined if the album cover photo is able to be shown? Hallow88 ( talk) 19:23, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
Have a version of Origin that appears to be a demo, not released by Bigwig Enterprsies only manufactured & distributed. The recording of the songs is somewhat different and are in mono but encoded with stereo playback. Have the released version of Origin by Bigwig Enterprises but it does not have mono playback only stereo and the track times are different. If this information was added to the album page, what kind of reference would it need? Hallow88 ( talk) 14:13, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Officially released album containing a track from Origin and dated 1999, and also saying its from the forthcoming independent release. Can this be a reliable source? Hallow88 ( talk) 16:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Can you explain how they are not official? Look official to me, they even have IFPI codes. Yes, they are compilation cds but released with authorization. Please explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallow88 ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
The references for Listen To The Rain shows nothing about this song, where is that information coming from and if it was cut from Eternal and Demise then how does the references show it exists at all? This version that is shown on Wikipedia has no piano and rain part, what is that part then? Hallow88 ( talk) 04:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I see no point in removing citation needed, until a source is added. Hallow88 ( talk) 20:31, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
ORIGIN Cover - Noticed when looking at the details of the album cover it says it believed to be credited to Bigwig Enterprises, or the graphic artists. Album shows - (cover photo by Rocky Gray) - seems strange. This information is not on the article page.
Can anyone explain how this is correct or wrong? Hallow88 ( talk) 01:01, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
This being an officially announced unofficial release, then the only way to say the information is correct would be based on the playback format and track times (officially sourced), unless the band announces the exact true demo information. Being unofficial, nothing has backing up to the correct release. Hallow88 ( talk) 04:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that would be the way that would answer all questions Hallow88 ( talk) 04:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
If a recording was released only as a promo, should it be linked in sequence with the commercial releases in a band's chronology in the infobox?
Case in point: "Band" = The Firesign Theatre
Prior chronology link:
Not Insane or Anything You Want To (1972) -> A Firesign Chat With Papoon (1972 promo) -> The Tale of the Giant Rat of Sumatra (1974)
I removed the Papoon promo from the chain, directly linking Giant Rat to Not Insane. What is the consensus? Does it make sense to include a group's promo discs in the chronology? (I don't think so.) Logically, that would mean you would have to include every one. (E.g. Every Beatles promo?) As I understand it, most promos must go largely without public notice since they're not commercially released. JustinTime55 ( talk) 19:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
There is a
current discussion regarding the addition of |Studio =
and |Venue =
parameters to
Template:Infobox single and
Template:Infobox song. This would bring them into line with the current
Template:Infobox album usage. Please add your comments at
Template talk:Infobox single#"Studio" addition. —
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talk) 16:53, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
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Too many quotes are used. They should be paraphrased or something. I couldn't raise the issue at the nearly neglected talk page. -- George Ho ( talk) 07:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
It's is okay to add Metacritic score both in the album ratings template, and in the critical reception section? It is told it's gratuitous but I think it's better for an "at a glance" point of view. I ask this because the guidelines has never said do not add Metacritic in both sections at the same article. TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 13:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
|ADM=
parameter for AnyDecentMusic? and added in the template, you won't make a big deal about Metacritic being the only thing added in the album ratings template. I accepted it if the website have a source for these albums.
TheAmazingPeanuts (
talk) 16:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
The bulk of the information should be in prose format, though the text may be supplemented with the Album ratings template, as a summary of professional reviews in table form. The template is not to be a substitute for a section in paragraph form, since a review cannot be accurately boiled down to a simple rating out of five stars or other scoring system.
There are other aggregate websites (ce.
AnyDecentMusic?) that can also be highlighted, so why favor Metacritic? More importantly, Wikipedia articles should be written with
the general reader in mind; one can hardly be considered a reader if they overlook a section's worth of prose to glance at a tiny box listing scores. I also don't see how having a sentence summarizing critical consensus ("generally positive reviews", for instance) in both the lead and the body doesn't say enough about how an album was received to the reader and they would need an average score also, a score which may seem arbitrary to many readers since it's in one's own mind what level of score would be considered "good" or "positive". As for there being other articles where editors have edited this way, it's not relevant (
WP:OTHERSTUFF).
Dan56 (
talk) 16:40, 26 October 2016 (UTC)noprose=yes/no
. The template, in these cases, serves as a repository for useful links to build a section of prose from, Metacritic's entry page for a certain album being one of them. There are still articles that are still lacking in sections covering critical response and have only scores that were moved into the template; Metacritic being in the template in this case was an initial step to hold information there until a section is fleshed out.
Dan56 (
talk) 16:40, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Also of note is WP:ALBUMS itself stance, specifically WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES example, where it shows using both. The other WikiProject I was speaking about was WP:VG. WP:VG/S it's acceptable for prose, WP:VGAGG says it's acceptable for review table. The WikiProject is very active and only adds to these things if there is an active community discussion and consensus. Sergecross73 msg me 01:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
I nominated the article for Latin Grammy Hall of Fame for FLC.I'd appreciate thee feedback! Erick ( talk) 01:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Should an album article indicate the existence of an EP with the same name? The owner of the article Lucid (album) removed the hatnote indicating the existence of Lucid EP or even the dab page. I think it should have a hatnote, what do you think? -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 04:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
My nomination of House of Music for featured status is up. Any reviews or comments would be appreciated. Happy Turkey Day! Dan56 ( talk) 15:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I think some aspects of the album MOS are vague. "Charts" or "Chart positions" -- or sometimes I see, "Personnel" and "Credits and personnel", "Reception" or "Critical reception". I was hoping to start a conversation to hone in on what other editors are seeing or might be confused about and hopefully tighten the guidelines of our Album MOS. My stances are it should be "Chart positions", with Certifications in its own section; "Critical reception" when talking about reviews of any kind but "Reception" for a combined section [Critical and commercial if they're too short]; and "Personnel" for all types of credits. -- Jennica✿ / talk 16:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
It's not set in stone that everyone must use these headings. Every article is different and requires different sections depending on the circumstances. Why are we trying to fix something that isn't broken? — Calvin999 12:10, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Ahh nevermind I guess. I thought it would be good to refine and tighten the guidelines a little more. I like uniformity and was trying to get a general consensus. Koavf encouraged me to write about this and I kinda sorta knew people would disagree with me. -- Jennica✿ / talk 20:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Should songs be categorized into albums categories? At See You Again (Wiz Khalifa song) my removal of the song from the albums category was reverted [7] ; it was still categorized into the property category. -- 65.94.168.229 ( talk) 05:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
A public request for comment was posted for a discussion on this question, and your input would be welcome: Talk:Unknown Pleasures#RfC: Italics for Pitchfork (website) magazine?. — BLZ · talk 18:55, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Just wondering if this website is considered to be a reliable source? I see a lot of album reviews. Thank you.-- TerryAlex ( talk) 06:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to take Wildflower (The Avalanches album) to FA, but I've never brought any article to FA before. It just passed GAR and I'm looking for someone to mentor me through the FA process or at least provide a peer review because I don't normally edit music articles and I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing. TarkusAB 23:14, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I've nominated This England (album) for Featured article status. Project members are invited to participate in the Featured article candidate discussion. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 06:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
The proposal to merge the soundtrack into Dust of Angels is discussed. I invite you to improve consensus. -- George Ho ( talk) 21:04, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_8#Category:Comedy_albums_by_decade Leave your thoughts. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 18:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Would someone from WP:ALBUM mind taking a look at Pat McGee Band#Discography? A number of stand-alone articles were created for this band's albums, but none of them are supported by citations to reliable sources except for Save Me (Pat McGee Band album), and even the sourcing for that article is questionable at best. Some of the article were released by Warner or one of its subsidiaries, so perhaps that helps with WP:NALBUM, but a number of the independent releases seem to be of suspect Wikipedia notability and seem to fail all of the NALBUM criteria. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 04:49, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Discuss such a case at an RfC at Talk:Dust of Angels if you care. — AjaxSmack 01:58, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Dear editors, I have scheduled an A-class review for the article Rebel Heart in its talk page here. Would any uninvolved editors please provide their review comment and support or oppose for the promotion, based on the criteria. — IB [ Poke ] 05:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello. I was wondering if anyone knew where to find archives of NME and Q Magazine. The Wikipedia Library's list of available periodicals doesn't include either of them. Thanks! -- MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 04:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I was wondering if it was worth making a category for "Postmodern music albums", as a subcategory for Category:Postmodern music. I've seen several albums cited as "postmodern" in their articles and wondered if it was worth gathering them all in a category? -- TangoTizerWolfstone ( talk) 09:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
A request was made here. Thanks. -- Efe ( talk) 21:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Tribute albums Four years ago or so, there were maybe a dozen subcategories of this by artist being given tribute and each of those had several entries. I have suggested for deletion many such subcategories that only contained a few entries. The most recent was here. I took a look at the parent to see that it had ballooned to having almost 200 subcategories, almost all of which are in the single digits of entries. It seems like there's a systematic attempt to empty the category. Does anyone know about this or have strong feelings on it? I think that it's wise to restrict subcategorization to categories which only have ~<5 entries. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 06:38, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Isn't there a Wikipedia rule that says that an album can not be added to an album's discography list if it hasn't been released yet? Example
I just want to know because this may fit the criteria for En Vogue#Discography whereas User:Cultureinject keeps adding "Electric Cafe" to the list even though it has yet-to-be released. It has no official release date other than saying "2017 and it was pushed back in 2016. Horizonlove ( talk) 23:00, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I have been working on the article about Blind Man's Zoo by 10,000 Maniacs. I may need help on reviewing the sources and the content for copyediting. -- George Ho ( talk) 11:37, 18 February 2017 (UTC)