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The original proposal comes from January 2014. They were included for the 2015 WikiCup but were ultimately removed the next year. There was a breif mention about its return in August 2021, to one response that said, "Yeah, we could bring them back...
Peer reviews, as Wizardman put it back in 2014, still continue to be a ghost town. What is actively encouraged by many veteran users when someone goes through the GA or FA process really lacks attention, especially due to how helpful it is. In fact, some peer reviews have been open as early as August of last year. When I had my first (and currently only) peer review, I basically had to drag down SandyGeorgia to come and review it (sorry, Sandy). I really do think that having it as part of the WikiCup could help breathe some life into it. Especially because peer reviews work like dominoes of quid pro quos, it can get some new gear kicking. I found two reasons why the peer reviews were removed back in 2016:
I know there are a lot of people active here, and I'd love to have a discussion to get a clear yes or no. I'd also like to consider copyedits, but that's for another time. Panini! đ„Ș 14:31, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
While on the discussion of peer reviews, would it be worthwhile to consider making it possible to add them to the WikiCup review table? Oftentimes people put up peer review because they're looking for additional reviews before they go to GA or FA; this should help attract other WikiCup members so they jam up FAC less. I have a peer review open but since it's "technically out of WikiCup scope" it's going relatively unnoticed. I would also like to mention that I apologise if anyone is annoyed about this ruckus that I've caused. The WikiCup talk page has quadrupled in length... Panini! đ„Ș 18:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
See here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
I nominated Interstate 82 for good topic status last year and claimed points when it passed as a GT a few weeks ago. Now that it's been promoted to a FT (due to Interstate 182 becoming an FA during this round), am I able to resubmit it for points? Sounder Bruce 02:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Points are awarded per article in the topic that was worked on by you. If you would have a right to claim points for the promotion of the article to good or featured status, you have the right to claim points for its promotion as part of the topic, even if you did not nominate the topic. This applies even if the work on these articles was not done this year, as long as you have done significant work on at least one article in the topic this year.ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 18:02, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I will have to withdraw from this competition. I hope I can join next year. Severe storm 28 21:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi there, I recently completed a pick-up review of Thomas Tuchel here. Does is count as something that I can claim points from? Just asking. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 15:50, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all
I was just wondering what the system is if there's a tie on points between two or more contestants at the cut-off point for progression from the round? Looking at the current standings, there are six contestants on 10 points, occupying positions 62 to 67 in the table, suggesting that three of them will progress and three will not. Not sure how that would be selected though?
As an aside, it's quite surprising that the cut-off point is there - if I recall correctly it's usually sufficient just to score a single 5-pointer to progress from round 1, so perhaps there's more competition this time around!  â Amakuru ( talk) 15:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Going to go as far down the list as I can reasonably do a gallery for. Probably Top 20 or so? From past experience, at some point the requirement to use freely-licensed photos just doesn't work for someone, and the less content promoted the harder it gets. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 14:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Is it at the end of the 26th or the start of the 26th? I have a featured picture due to pass at around 1 am on the 26th, so this matters slightly (I mean, it's 11 FPs vs 12, I'm probably progressing either way. Might make a difference between eighth and ninth place for the round, I guess.). Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 20:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all!
I just finished a review at Talk:Need for Speed: High Stakes/GA1, about five minutes ago -- but the bulk of the review (and the edits done to it) were done two days ago. It would put me at 15 points and would allow me to qualify for the next round in a tie, figured it was worth a shot to ask if it would qualify here (I added it to my submissions but defer to y'all). Is there any way that would let me qualify for the next round this year? Nomader ( talk) 06:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: Am I in the next round? Because I have been (maybe accidentally) removed from Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2022 while you were removing users with 0 points. â Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 10:13, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
I could be mistaken, but for me, it's now showing that Kavyansh has 500+ points from last round... Pamzeis ( talk) 02:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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Cwmhiraeth: FYI both of the past two newsletters have come through two times (duplicates). Doesn't look like I'm on the /send list twice or anything. Just a minor annoyance, but FYI. â
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I recently got credit for an ITN blurb, which I was surprised by as my contributions essentially amounted to reverting some vandalism and adding one sentence. However, it was the first sourced sentence in the article about the event, which I assume led me to be listed as the first updater on the nomination. Would this count for points? Also, I think that in general, what counts as a significant contribution for ITN should be clarified as the updates to the article can often be relatively small (compared to DYK/GA/FA). eviolite (talk) 21:02, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh, wellâŠâŠâžș Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 06:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Some people don't know if he was eliminated himself, as mentioned above, so we should add this question to the FAQ.--âžș Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 06:36, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Like the title says, am I allowed to work on articles now and nominate them for GA or FA in a later round if I think that I don't need the points in the current round? Or would this be seen as against the spirit of the competition? AryKun ( talk) 11:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
This was one of the easiest restorations I've done in a long time. Your call. I've claimed it for the moment, strip it if you want, but given the next one is literally taking days of work... Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 05:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
WP:The Core Contest is being run from April 15 to May 31 and may be of interest to WikiCup competitors. It involves choosing an important topic in your area of interest and working on it over six weeks. Those articles are often worth a lot of bonus points in the WikiCup: the WP:VIT3 articles typically have articles in >50 language. The contest has ÂŁ250 in prizes to distribute. You can sign up here. Femke ( talk) 20:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi! Personal circumstances and a probable death in the family this week (why does this make me sound like a murderer lol) will prevent me from meaningfully working on content. Thus, I'll have to withdraw this year. I'll beat all of you next year though >:) Best of luck to the remaining participants! I'll continue to participate on scoring discussions as they happen, as its quite interesting. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 22:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Maybe we could create a category that awards small amounts of points for clearing various backlogs? NPP isn't a good candidate for this, since there's no way to check that the submitter did a complete reviewâbut it could work for AfC, maybe DYK reviews and promotions (although for those, a point might be too much?). I think this could be a neat way to incentivize people to help clear our perennial backlogs. Anyone have other backlogs that we could clear with this? theleekycauldron ( talk âą contribs) (she/ they) 00:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
encourage content creation and improvement. Points for GARs to me seem like a good way to make sure GAs nommed as part of the Wikicup are reviewed in time to count for score etc. That's why there's a requirement that DYKs are ones based off your own work rather than any nomination. I'm not entirely convinced roping in AfC backlog work is going to result in more content creation and improvement, rather it might reduce it as WikiCup participants see AfC as a more efficient way of gaining points. Additionally, I think adding backlog work might make it hard for the coordinators to actually deal with all the submissions. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 08:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey y'all! In case y'all want to participate in a drive as part of your work for the WikiCup I'm currently organizing a drive for WikiProject Finance running during April to improve coverage of financial markets. You can join at Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance & Investment/Content drives/April 2022. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 15:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: Could you explain why my DYK of Dave Frederick was not eligible for points? Thanks. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
We had a rare (in recent years) 15 point threshold needed to make it through Round 1, and I'm glad to see that the cutoff point in Round 2 has been over 100 points (111 needed). Last year it was 61, and 71 the year before. Congrats to all who made it throughâit's a shame I couldn't join you as quicker reviews on 2 of my 3 GANs would have had me tied in last place, but I'm looking forward to seeing the impressively high standards in the rest of the Cup.
Well done to all those in Round 3 and commiserations to anyone who lost out because of the tough competition this year. â Bilorv ( talk) 17:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been too anxious to leave the house for more than brief periods for months, and my numbers aren't even looking good enough to even reach the final round. I'm not sure it's possible to do the Wikicup with featured pictures under current point systems. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 01:14, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: I would like to withdraw from the Cup at this time. I am about to start a new career path, which unfortunately means I will probably have a lot less time to contribute to Wikipedia in the near future. Given how much more competitive the Cup is this year, I think it's better if I withdraw now rather than later.
I realize this is a strange request since editors at the top of the the leaderboard typically don't withdraw, but can I request that my spot be given to the next editor who qualifies (i.e. whoever is in 33rd place right now)? I would greatly appreciate it. Epicgenius ( talk) 04:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Honorable mention for Epicgenius! Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Epicgenius good luck in your new career. I sincerely hope you'll find time to continue your excellent work on architecture articles, many of which I've had the honour and pleasure of reading, reviewing and promoting. All the best. The Rambling Man ( Keep wearing the mask...) 22:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Shouldn't they be awarded five points, like GA and FA reviews? It's frequently backlogged, but still an important precursor to those two... theleekycauldron ( talk âą contribs) (she/ they) 02:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Amazing, I was literally just coming here to suggest that PRs get added for 5 points just like FL/FA/GA reviews. As long as they are sufficiently detailed, there's no reason at all to exclude PR, and indeed it might just start a revival over there....! The Rambling Man ( Keep wearing the mask...) 17:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The original proposal comes from January 2014. They were included for the 2015 WikiCup but were ultimately removed the next year. There was a breif mention about its return in August 2021, to one response that said, "Yeah, we could bring them back...
Peer reviews, as Wizardman put it back in 2014, still continue to be a ghost town. What is actively encouraged by many veteran users when someone goes through the GA or FA process really lacks attention, especially due to how helpful it is. In fact, some peer reviews have been open as early as August of last year. When I had my first (and currently only) peer review, I basically had to drag down SandyGeorgia to come and review it (sorry, Sandy). I really do think that having it as part of the WikiCup could help breathe some life into it. Especially because peer reviews work like dominoes of quid pro quos, it can get some new gear kicking. I found two reasons why the peer reviews were removed back in 2016:
I know there are a lot of people active here, and I'd love to have a discussion to get a clear yes or no. I'd also like to consider copyedits, but that's for another time. Panini! đ„Ș 14:31, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
While on the discussion of peer reviews, would it be worthwhile to consider making it possible to add them to the WikiCup review table? Oftentimes people put up peer review because they're looking for additional reviews before they go to GA or FA; this should help attract other WikiCup members so they jam up FAC less. I have a peer review open but since it's "technically out of WikiCup scope" it's going relatively unnoticed. I would also like to mention that I apologise if anyone is annoyed about this ruckus that I've caused. The WikiCup talk page has quadrupled in length... Panini! đ„Ș 18:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
See here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
I nominated Interstate 82 for good topic status last year and claimed points when it passed as a GT a few weeks ago. Now that it's been promoted to a FT (due to Interstate 182 becoming an FA during this round), am I able to resubmit it for points? Sounder Bruce 02:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Points are awarded per article in the topic that was worked on by you. If you would have a right to claim points for the promotion of the article to good or featured status, you have the right to claim points for its promotion as part of the topic, even if you did not nominate the topic. This applies even if the work on these articles was not done this year, as long as you have done significant work on at least one article in the topic this year.ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 18:02, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I will have to withdraw from this competition. I hope I can join next year. Severe storm 28 21:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi there, I recently completed a pick-up review of Thomas Tuchel here. Does is count as something that I can claim points from? Just asking. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 15:50, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all
I was just wondering what the system is if there's a tie on points between two or more contestants at the cut-off point for progression from the round? Looking at the current standings, there are six contestants on 10 points, occupying positions 62 to 67 in the table, suggesting that three of them will progress and three will not. Not sure how that would be selected though?
As an aside, it's quite surprising that the cut-off point is there - if I recall correctly it's usually sufficient just to score a single 5-pointer to progress from round 1, so perhaps there's more competition this time around!  â Amakuru ( talk) 15:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Going to go as far down the list as I can reasonably do a gallery for. Probably Top 20 or so? From past experience, at some point the requirement to use freely-licensed photos just doesn't work for someone, and the less content promoted the harder it gets. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 14:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Is it at the end of the 26th or the start of the 26th? I have a featured picture due to pass at around 1 am on the 26th, so this matters slightly (I mean, it's 11 FPs vs 12, I'm probably progressing either way. Might make a difference between eighth and ninth place for the round, I guess.). Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 20:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all!
I just finished a review at Talk:Need for Speed: High Stakes/GA1, about five minutes ago -- but the bulk of the review (and the edits done to it) were done two days ago. It would put me at 15 points and would allow me to qualify for the next round in a tie, figured it was worth a shot to ask if it would qualify here (I added it to my submissions but defer to y'all). Is there any way that would let me qualify for the next round this year? Nomader ( talk) 06:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: Am I in the next round? Because I have been (maybe accidentally) removed from Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2022 while you were removing users with 0 points. â Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 10:13, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
I could be mistaken, but for me, it's now showing that Kavyansh has 500+ points from last round... Pamzeis ( talk) 02:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
@
Cwmhiraeth: FYI both of the past two newsletters have come through two times (duplicates). Doesn't look like I'm on the /send list twice or anything. Just a minor annoyance, but FYI. â
Rhododendrites
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19:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
I recently got credit for an ITN blurb, which I was surprised by as my contributions essentially amounted to reverting some vandalism and adding one sentence. However, it was the first sourced sentence in the article about the event, which I assume led me to be listed as the first updater on the nomination. Would this count for points? Also, I think that in general, what counts as a significant contribution for ITN should be clarified as the updates to the article can often be relatively small (compared to DYK/GA/FA). eviolite (talk) 21:02, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh, wellâŠâŠâžș Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 06:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Some people don't know if he was eliminated himself, as mentioned above, so we should add this question to the FAQ.--âžș Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 06:36, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Like the title says, am I allowed to work on articles now and nominate them for GA or FA in a later round if I think that I don't need the points in the current round? Or would this be seen as against the spirit of the competition? AryKun ( talk) 11:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
This was one of the easiest restorations I've done in a long time. Your call. I've claimed it for the moment, strip it if you want, but given the next one is literally taking days of work... Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 05:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
WP:The Core Contest is being run from April 15 to May 31 and may be of interest to WikiCup competitors. It involves choosing an important topic in your area of interest and working on it over six weeks. Those articles are often worth a lot of bonus points in the WikiCup: the WP:VIT3 articles typically have articles in >50 language. The contest has ÂŁ250 in prizes to distribute. You can sign up here. Femke ( talk) 20:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi! Personal circumstances and a probable death in the family this week (why does this make me sound like a murderer lol) will prevent me from meaningfully working on content. Thus, I'll have to withdraw this year. I'll beat all of you next year though >:) Best of luck to the remaining participants! I'll continue to participate on scoring discussions as they happen, as its quite interesting. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 22:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Maybe we could create a category that awards small amounts of points for clearing various backlogs? NPP isn't a good candidate for this, since there's no way to check that the submitter did a complete reviewâbut it could work for AfC, maybe DYK reviews and promotions (although for those, a point might be too much?). I think this could be a neat way to incentivize people to help clear our perennial backlogs. Anyone have other backlogs that we could clear with this? theleekycauldron ( talk âą contribs) (she/ they) 00:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
encourage content creation and improvement. Points for GARs to me seem like a good way to make sure GAs nommed as part of the Wikicup are reviewed in time to count for score etc. That's why there's a requirement that DYKs are ones based off your own work rather than any nomination. I'm not entirely convinced roping in AfC backlog work is going to result in more content creation and improvement, rather it might reduce it as WikiCup participants see AfC as a more efficient way of gaining points. Additionally, I think adding backlog work might make it hard for the coordinators to actually deal with all the submissions. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 08:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey y'all! In case y'all want to participate in a drive as part of your work for the WikiCup I'm currently organizing a drive for WikiProject Finance running during April to improve coverage of financial markets. You can join at Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance & Investment/Content drives/April 2022. A. C. Santacruz â Please ping me! 15:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: Could you explain why my DYK of Dave Frederick was not eligible for points? Thanks. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
We had a rare (in recent years) 15 point threshold needed to make it through Round 1, and I'm glad to see that the cutoff point in Round 2 has been over 100 points (111 needed). Last year it was 61, and 71 the year before. Congrats to all who made it throughâit's a shame I couldn't join you as quicker reviews on 2 of my 3 GANs would have had me tied in last place, but I'm looking forward to seeing the impressively high standards in the rest of the Cup.
Well done to all those in Round 3 and commiserations to anyone who lost out because of the tough competition this year. â Bilorv ( talk) 17:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
I've been too anxious to leave the house for more than brief periods for months, and my numbers aren't even looking good enough to even reach the final round. I'm not sure it's possible to do the Wikicup with featured pictures under current point systems. Adam Cuerden ( talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 01:14, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Cwmhiraeth: I would like to withdraw from the Cup at this time. I am about to start a new career path, which unfortunately means I will probably have a lot less time to contribute to Wikipedia in the near future. Given how much more competitive the Cup is this year, I think it's better if I withdraw now rather than later.
I realize this is a strange request since editors at the top of the the leaderboard typically don't withdraw, but can I request that my spot be given to the next editor who qualifies (i.e. whoever is in 33rd place right now)? I would greatly appreciate it. Epicgenius ( talk) 04:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Honorable mention for Epicgenius! Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Epicgenius good luck in your new career. I sincerely hope you'll find time to continue your excellent work on architecture articles, many of which I've had the honour and pleasure of reading, reviewing and promoting. All the best. The Rambling Man ( Keep wearing the mask...) 22:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Shouldn't they be awarded five points, like GA and FA reviews? It's frequently backlogged, but still an important precursor to those two... theleekycauldron ( talk âą contribs) (she/ they) 02:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Amazing, I was literally just coming here to suggest that PRs get added for 5 points just like FL/FA/GA reviews. As long as they are sufficiently detailed, there's no reason at all to exclude PR, and indeed it might just start a revival over there....! The Rambling Man ( Keep wearing the mask...) 17:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)