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Recently we tested out User:MartinBotII on data from four projects, with a view to pulling out suitable articles for release versions. I've got details of how it would work written up here. Please take a look and give feedback. Walkerma 09:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I have just set up an assessment department for our project. It appears the bot has already picked up on it. I think it's about time we joined in, but it's just that there is a lot of fandom in our area, which makes it hard to get the right people together at times :D I was just wondering where all the "up to date" information for these kinds of assessment departments is btw. I'm somewhat lost in all the WP 1.0 pages and can't seem to find a set of clear rules TheDJ ( talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 01:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this is a strange idea, but a lot of the articles right now don't fall within the scope of any projects doing assessments. A proposal has been made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Assessment of unassessed articles regarding setting up a group to specifically engage in assessments, and I've made a sample tempalte at {{ AAA}}. I'm curious as to whether the rest of you think that this would be a good idea or not, and, if so, exactly what the formal arrangement should be. Should it be a WikiProject, a task force of some other project, or maybe something else? All responses are welcome. Badbilltucker 15:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Great idea. Questions come to mind, however. Specifically, would this group basically set up other projects which are not yet doing assessments, and do the assessments for them, or would it have it's own banner and include assessment criteria there? Personally, I would favor the former. If so, I would certainly welcome rolling the proposed Project Support Services project proposal into this one, one way or another. Badbilltucker 18:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
(Unindent) Sorry I took a while to respond to the above request, I got distracted while working on this earlier. (We're also beta testing Version 0.5 :)). This idea would certainly be an excellent addition to the 1.0 project. We are moving from a manual system of picking articles (as used at Version 0.5) to an automated system (outlined here), to allow us to get much larger collection (V0.5 was only 2000 articles). One ongoing concern with the automated system is that there may be gaps in our selection, if we don't have projects representing that subject area. For example, we have about 2000 Pennsylvania articles (1000 assessed) to pick from, but no Maryland articles. This can affect even broader subject areas - we have Dance and Film covered, but many fine arts like painting and sculpture are not (I think!).
I think I would like to combine the efforts of this proposed group with WP:WVWP (Work via WikiProjects), which was very active (indeed WVWP + Oleg set up the bot assessment scheme), but which has lain dormant since the fall because of people's commitments elsewhere (e.g. to Version 0.5). People have also become less interested in contacting WikiProjects now that the projects are coming to us at the rate of about one per day! It is clear that the focus of WVWP should shift from trying to contact all projects, and switch to trying to focus inactive projects. Traditionally (i.e., last year!) many of these functions you describe have fallen to WVWP - we have recorded information manually from projects that are not using the bot, we have helped projects get started with the bot, and sometimes just given general guidance (the role now played by this council). We did a lot of assessments for projects that were new to the concept - Doctor Who, Adelaide, all sorts - just to help them get started. Once they had some examples of assessment of their own articles, they were able afterwards to perform their own assessments and start using the bot. Tagging articles that fell outside the jurisdiction of any active project was less relevant when we only had 50 projects using the bot; it is an excellent idea, and it is a natural evolution for WVWP to work on this.
Therefore I would like to propose that the 1.0 team and the Council collaborate closely on this, with perhaps a joint team. Two ways to do this:
I strongly favor the former, mainly because I think we don't want to multiply groups when we may only have a couple of active people in each! Also, despite our inactivity in recent months, there are still occasional edits to our manually listed tables and questions on our talk page. About a year ago we contacted all the WikiProjects ("all" as of Oct '05, much fewer than today) so the community has heard of us. Tables like Philosophy & Religion and (even worse) Humanities) desperately need updating, but there is a lot of valuable information on these tables that should be used. I'd like to find some way of expanding & updating lists like this bot list, which is (in effect) "All the Arts article assessments that come from projects not using the bot". It can be a lot of work, but in fact a couple of us were able to achieve a great deal when it was a major focus for us. What do others think? Walkerma 19:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
(Copied over from [[ WP:Council by Walkerma 04:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
There was a suggestion at WP:COUNCIL recently, copied above, that there should be a project which works on article assessment in subject areas where there are no formal WikiProjects. In addition, it could help set up new projects with templates and assessments. Since many of these tasks are already informally done here at WVWP, it made sense to combine the work here. This will mean a big change in what we do here (or haven't been doing, recently!). I will be busy trying to write a site map for 1.0 in the next few days, when finished that may help us see what needs to be done. What do folks think about this? Walkerma 04:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, how should we start this? In other words, how can we best identify articles that are (a) not assessed yet and (b) worth spending time on? Many projects have articles related to their fields that are not even tagged simply because they are relatively obscure topics. I don't want us to waste time on those because they should get covered eventually by the relevant project, and anyway they're not that important. We need to find the important articles that haven't been assessed yet. I'd like to suggest we start with Vital articles, this is a list of the top 1000 or so, and make sure these have all been assessed. Any one of these 1000 could be major enough to be its own WikiProject, so if we find any major gaps we could try and muster up interest in starting one. We might do the same with WP:CORE and WP:CORESUP, which are other lists of important articles (about 400 from the two, some of which overlap with VA) - these should all have been assessed, but the assessments may be out of date, and we may identify gaps there too. Another fruitful source of articles could be this project - we could go through the manually-generated tables and add bot-readable tags to them.
Thanks for the comments (further above) & suggestion Tito. I've tried pestering David in the past, since he was one of the early active people at 1.0, he ignored all of my posts for some reason - but I'll contact him again. Interesting that he links to the 1.0 page. Although I have always admired what they have achieved at de, I'm getting less envious of de every day - we have an open source GPL offline reader (de's is proprietary), and we have a quarter million assessed articles (de has none!). I'm hopeful that once the Version 0.5 CD comes out (we're already planning the publicity) we will get some new blood in the 1.0 projects - and maybe others like David will get involved again. As for telephone, Skype & IRC, I like these sorts of things for brainstorming - everyone is there together, and you can be open & frank about the situation knowing that stupid things you say are not on the Web (unlike here). Still, we can certainly bounce ideas round here a lot as well.
Do others have other ideas on how to proceed? I'd like us to frame a strategy before I spend a lot of time rewriting the WVWP project description. Walkerma 18:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to participate in this. I've copied as much of the relevant stuff as I could to Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Science/Assessment and the related pages (based on Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction/Assessment), and copied in the assessment code to the {{ HistSci}}. Please let me know what else I should do.-- ragesoss 21:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The Work via Wikiprojects page (whose talk page this is) looks kind of messed up for the moment I think, with that large {{ Work via Wikiprojects pages}} on top, and now with a blown up Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Statistics (the latter is my fault). It would be nice if the page were made more readable. I tried to reorganize things myself but I could not make it look good (and I don't know what's important and what should be on top). Anybody willing to work on this? Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 16:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Is Martinbot ready to do a full test run? Eyu100( t| fr| Version 1.0 Editorial Team) 00:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've just ran your bot three times and hundreds of articles seem to be missing. As you can already tell, there are several of child projects (Formula One, A1 GP etc.). Are the child projects included in the motorsport bot. The project members go round editing all parts of motorsport. Can you please try and get the children projects on the same bot as Motorsport, please. Many thanks. Can you reply on my talkpage, it's easier for me to get to. Davnel03 19:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
The importance rating has cause enough controversy and is not being used to its full potential in the Aircraft project. What would be the easiest way of removing this part from our assessment profile. Can we just delete the related categories and remove the code from the project banner? What will the bot do after this is done? - Trevor MacInnis ( Contribs) 01:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Considering his term has now expired, I was wondering if it might make sense to replace Annan on the VA list with Ban Ki-moon, his successor? John Carter 21:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I've started going through some of the articles on the VA tagging list to ensure that the relevant projects have their banners on the talk pages. I would add the WVWP tag someone mentioned on the main page here, but I don't know what it is. Can anyone help me in this regard? Thanx. John Carter 19:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I notice only Harvard University, Princeton University, and Yale University are included on the VA list. This seems to me slightly US-centric. Shouldn't at least Sorbonne, University of Cambridge and University of Oxford be included as well? John Carter 18:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the bot may be getting confused by the ampersand in the quality category. It should be depositing the stats in Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/D&D_articles_by_quality_statistics, but instead they're showing up under Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/D. The D&D articles by quality and D&D articles by quality log links aren't showing on the main page here either. How might they be fixed? Would changing the category names from the ampersand to the word "and" work? That'd be an easy fix, if so. Please to advise, thank you very much. :) -- Ebyabe 20:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The template isn't working properly on certain articles - specifically the one on Talk:Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'd fix it but I'm not sure how to and don't want to screw up a bunch of articles. Koweja 18:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I have just compiled a list of all the nominal Projects out there, and will be forwarding a list of those engaged in assessment not already listed here as doing so comparatively shortly. One question, though. At least a few projects place all their articles in a single "unassessed" class. I'm guessing you'll want to have those Projects separated out from the others? John Carter 14:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to propose we have an IRC meeting soon to plan a strategy for this project for the next year or so, held at #wikipedia-1.0. Please read this discussion to see what we're planning. I will be away in Chicago (& busy during daytime Chicago time) from 24th-29th March. What dates & times (specify time zone) would be good for people who are interested? Weekends work well for me, during evenings UTC. Walkerma 04:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out how to add class and importance ratings on the {{ environment}} template. I did some fiddling around and I think I got it working. How can I get the importance rating to show in the template, like {{ cvgproj}}? I copied the importance code from {{ album}}, which doesn't show it. Could someone check it out for me. Thanks. Mahanga Talk to me 15:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone who knows what they are doing start the "Everyday life" page and its subsections (incl. sports) please? I have content to add, but there's not place for it yet, and I just wandered in. I'm often WP:BOLD but not when I don't know the templates and formatting yet. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 23:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
As requested on the IRC meeting, here we have {{ WP1.0}}. This template will [hopefully] supercede all of the Editorial Team's banners, including v0.5, v0.7, v1.0, {{ WPCD}}, and templates for Vital articles and core topics.
Currently, it is still in beta stage; while I think I did a lot of conditional statements right (see for the template voodoo), it is still missing several things. I did not add those things as I wanted to make sure they were going to be used beforehand.
The template can replace all of the v0.5 templates; the built-in functionality should do it transparently. However, I'd like someone to double-check the category structure I put in the template, as I'm not sure whether I missed something or not.
Some other issues:
Please also review the wording, and feel free to take the template out for a spin. The usage is as follows:
{{WP1.0 | class = (as usual) | comments = (as usual) | orphan = yes / no | VA = yes / no | core = yes / no | coresup = yes / no | category = same as v0.5 | v0.5 = nom (throws an error) / pass / held / fail | v0.7 = nom / pass / held / fail | v1.0 = nom / pass / held / fail | WPCD = yes / no }}
Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 05:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I looked in one of the already-established topical sections on the page to which this talk page is attached, and all of the tables in it have headings like "Contact with Contact with WP Rational Skepticism". — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 21:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see here for a list of all the projects currently engaged in assessments. I would try to add them to the lists here, but find that the fact that they aren't the same as the layout of the project Directory makes it harder for me to figure out where they go. The projects in alphabetical order are the ones that aren't yet included one the lists of projects doing assessments, the ones by page on the bottom are those which are already included in the contact pages. Is there any way to maybe contact the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council to perhaps develop a uniform breakdown of these projects? John Carter 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I have been inactive in this project for a while. I am coming back to work on the release version, but what happened to Martinbot? The assessments were originally going to start in January, but nothing has happened. Has British Telecom fixed his internet connection yet? Also, we might want to consider letting projects rate each other after we do a full-scale test with the multiplication scale and linkranking. Eyu100( t| fr| Version 1.0 Editorial Team) 16:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
MartinP has let me know that he has been unable to do the tests because the toolserver has kept crashing. That was giving headaches for WP 1.0 Bot and Oleg too, that's why Oleg switched back to his own server. He's been told that the problems should be fixed this week, so let's hope! Once things there are fixed, he's all ready to go. Walkerma 14:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Is I believe set up for the bot. With any luck, the statistics will appear soon. John Carter 15:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
has been set up for both quality and importance (with a LOT of willing plagarism from the WPMILHIST project and Kirill). Which raises a few questions: we are not using the standard "class=" in the template, we are using a "quality=" option. Will this wreak havoc on the toolserver (our test says it's OK, but you never know....)?
We also have some additional levels of both quality and importance. Will the bot pick up on those, or do we have to stick with the pre-set levels?
Speaking of the bot, we (hopefully soon) will be adding more attributes to our project template. Will additional tags give the bot gastritis?
We're looking forward to getting our first automated assessment! - NDCompuGeek 08:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
←With all the different layers of musical instruments to consider, instead of having task forces for each country's (or continent's) musical instruments, and with all the different genres to consider with specialized instrumentation (a classical guitar is appreciably different from a country guitar), we felt it would just be easier on the project to layer this information in with the importance scheme - except we needed another layer or two. That's why we started the "normal" class, and are actually using the "no" class as a layer also (as opposed to "unassessed"). I really hope, Steve, that it won't cause too much confusion for the 'udder' bots (even if the tags are remooo-veable) (sorry, couldn't resist the pun! I guess I'm just in a bovine moooood - I've been listening to Spike Jones and the City Slickers lately :-))~...)....
has been engaged in assessment for some time, but has yet to show any statistics. I have no idea why. John Carter 20:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
How can i add such a table to the WikiProject i work on ? Ammar ( Talk - Don't Talk) 09:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The VA articles have now all been tagged. Not all of them have directly obvious associated projects, but I have proposed projects when it seemed to me that there was sufficient volume of content to do so. I guess this leaves us somewhat up in the air. If I might propose a possibility, probably the single largest project out there, WikiProject Biography, still has a staggering number of articles unassessed. Other large projects, probably including the likes of Military history, probably have similar problems. If we were going to do any sort of other assessments, I would think that those two projects would probably be the best place to start for the possibility of reducing the backlog of unassessed/tagged articles. Thoughts? John Carter 00:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure a simple bot could list the wikiprojects ordered by the number of unassessed articles. I did a quick manual check and this is what I found. Did I miss any big wikiprojects? Number unassessed (in thousands)
Those projects sum up to 194 thousand unassessed articles. There are roughly 300K WikiProject articles unassessed, so there still remain about 106K in the remaining wikiprojects, most of which contain less than 5K unassessed articles. Can someone double check this for me? Mahanga Talk 05:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there any way to get an automatically created list of the number of unassessed articles the various projects have made? Given the number of projects engaged in assessments, and the changes which are no doubt made every day, it's probably the only way to know which projects are in most and least need of help. John Carter 16:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The assessment for this wikiproject has not updated in 4 days. Not quite sure what to do. Acidskater 02:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've setup everything to work properly and it does for the most part, the only problem I can see right now is this stats/quality page: Cyprus articles by quality. I don't get why it says Wikipedia:WikiProject Cypriot and Contact with WP Cypriot instead of Wikipedia:WikiProject Cyprus and Contact with WP Cyprus. Is there something I did wrong? How do I correct it, if it is wrong? El Greco ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for using the bot, and enjoy your trip to Greece! Walkerma 01:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I want to ask about assessment rating. I know that any article can move up to GA or FA status regardless of their previous ratings as long as they meet the criteria. When a GA article is downgraded, it's pretty obvious that this article belongs to B class. However, when a FA article downgrades, which class does it go back to? A class? GA class? Or B class? A good example is Gene. There doesn't seem to have a "safety net" to "catch" these articles when they are demoted. OhanaUnited 13:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if someone could help setup the assessment code for {{ WikiProject Veterinary medicine}}. I copied/adapted the code from {{ WikiProject Cats}}, but I'm not sure how/where to create the various other pages and categories that are needed (and still need more coffee...). Much thanks :) -- Quiddity 17:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I thought that I hade dropped entries to the appropriate categories to get the bot to operate last night. Though the categories were later modified by another user. Wondered if there was something I was missing from the instructions that would cause bot not to operate on them.
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Keith D 10:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I am running the bot though are brand new wikiproject. it seems like the bot is unable to create an "&" symbol. it creates a page called "Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Texas A" I was wondering if you guys could take a look at our wikiproject to see what we are doing wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Texas_A%26M Oldag07 00:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I've just run the bot on Category:LGBT articles by quality. It updates the statistics page, but it doesn't update the log page. Any ideas why? Thanks! -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 16:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Where and how do I ask for articles to be rated? Fainites barley 19:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Proposal to remove the main biography project from the bot run. Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 16:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Where's all these FAs coming from? Wikipedia:Featured articles says we currently have 1,652, but according to this page, we have 1,894! That's a big difference. Can anyone explain this? Rocket000 18:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
There are 1268521 articles w/ a wikiproject dividing this by the number of total articles of 2,121,722 we get 59.787333119041985707835428015546% (about 3 out of 5) of articles have a wikiproject -- Java7837 ( talk) 21:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Sit down; this one'll take awhile. As noted above, we currently have roughly 60% of all articles tagged. Less than that total number have yet to be assessed, however. Also, some projects which have assessment capacity haven't yet assessed many articles. This can't really help that much. Also, many projects do not do a very good job of keeping up with GAs, FAs, and Release Version selections, which doesn't help either. On the basis of all of the above, I was wondering what the rest of you might think of a proposal like this. Feel free to offer any adjustments if certain provisions are to blatantly impossible. Many of these provisions involve subjects I know nothing whatsoever about, so I expect to be told some things aren't workable.
I am trying to kickstart a somewhat new/became dead WikiProject. It seems like after its creation, no one knew about it and the list of proposed members dwindled into a couple people. Anyways, I've set up project banners, sidebars, and now I'm trying to get this whole assessment deal squared away. I've been working with WP:UNI a little bit, and I've noticed that I cannot get that table of # of articles vs. assessment class made. It looks like a bot operation, which I've ran http://www.math.ucla.edu/~aoleg/wp/wp10/run_wp10.cgi the bot]] for Robotics already, but I don't know how to view the results yet (part of it might also be I don't know how to seek out all of the robotics articles and then assess all of them, and then get it on that table). If I can get some pointers as to how I could do all of that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 08:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi all. It is commndable to see efforts to rate articles with the aim of improving quality. The system being adopted is no doubt helping as a fairly crude classification system. Without collecting and analysing any rating data, it's difficult to say how effective the process is. If anyone is interested in refining the system, let me know. There are ways to improve the assessment system. Like anything worth doing, they involve some work. It seems these some emphasis is being place on these ratings. While I do not have any problem with them being used heuristically, as an expert in the area, I have strong (but constructive) criticism regarding them being used to make important determinations. I have not had a great deal of time to edit lately, and am not sure exactly what they are being used for. I do know, however, that ratings tend to get treated by many as a lot more precise and valid than they actually are. I have suggested elswhere ways of doing ratings more rigorously. If anyone is interested, I'll tell you more. Cheers Holon ( talk) 07:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
This table only shows the articles assessed as stubs but not the other classes:
Can anyone fix it? Best regards, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm probably being dumb, but I can't fathom why the bot isn't picking up the importance splits on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Gymnastics articles by quality statistics. IfI'm being dumb, how do I go about fixing this? Thanks! -- ratarsed ( talk) 18:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anybody help on how to ask for a re-assessment? Reactive attachment disorder (a DSM and ICD-10 classification) was assessed as mid-importance and Attachment disorder (a vague term) was assessed as high. This really ought to be the other way round. Its not particularly important but I can't work out who decides these things. Fainites barley 23:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
The project page says "People conducting assessments are encouraged to use/evaluate Outriggr's tool (currently being beta tested).". The problem is that Outrigger has recently had the script deleted is there an alternative tool that can be used to perform assessments? Keith D ( talk) 22:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there are reason why Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates was omitted from the automated selection of articles for Version 0.7? - Visionholder ( talk) 02:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi there - just wanted to leave a note saying that the ITC Entertainment Wikiproject is active and an ongoing project. I saw that a note was left on the project discussion page a long time ago but no response had been given from us (for my part, it was during a time when I wasn't very active on WP). Howie ☎ 14:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Not sure what's changed with the latest release, but with the manual tool down, I can't find how to create an assessment table for Category:Ontario_road_articles_by_quality. I can make one on the Toolserver, but the page on wikipedia ( Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Ontario_road_articles_by_quality_statistics) is blank, despite there being an entry on the index.
What'd I b0rk? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 18:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that several wikiprojects put assessment tags on redirect pages. Does 1.0 have any official opinion on this? Doing so has some organizational benifits, but it also greatly inflates the class=NA category and gives a lot of extra work to the bot, so I was wondering whether the people running Work Via Wikiprojects care either way. -- Arctic Gnome ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The Public Policy Initiative is recruiting Wikipedians to assess article quality improvement. We are testing the metric for consistency and to see if there are differences between Wikipedian scores and subject matter expert scores. We are looking to identify the strengths and weakness of the current assessment system since we are using that system to evaluate article quality improvement through the project. Check out WikiProject: U.S. Public Policy if interested. Thanks! ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 23:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Greetings. I'm working with the WP:Article Incubator, and would like to improve the assessment structure. Currently only articles that have graduated out of the Incubator are assessed (see Category:Article Incubator articles by quality). But the Candidate articles are not. Candidate articles are outside of mainspace, and are 'works in progress' (see: Category:Articles in the Article Incubator).
Is it possible to set up assessments for the Candidate articles, even though they are outside the mainspace? For example, Move Category:Article Incubator articles by quality to Category:Article Incubator Graduate Articles by quality, then Create Category:Article Incubator Candidate Articles by quality. So the Incubator would end up with 2 assessment groups, one for public articles, and one for internal work. Thanks. Eclipsed ¤ 11:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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Recently we tested out User:MartinBotII on data from four projects, with a view to pulling out suitable articles for release versions. I've got details of how it would work written up here. Please take a look and give feedback. Walkerma 09:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I have just set up an assessment department for our project. It appears the bot has already picked up on it. I think it's about time we joined in, but it's just that there is a lot of fandom in our area, which makes it hard to get the right people together at times :D I was just wondering where all the "up to date" information for these kinds of assessment departments is btw. I'm somewhat lost in all the WP 1.0 pages and can't seem to find a set of clear rules TheDJ ( talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 01:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this is a strange idea, but a lot of the articles right now don't fall within the scope of any projects doing assessments. A proposal has been made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Assessment of unassessed articles regarding setting up a group to specifically engage in assessments, and I've made a sample tempalte at {{ AAA}}. I'm curious as to whether the rest of you think that this would be a good idea or not, and, if so, exactly what the formal arrangement should be. Should it be a WikiProject, a task force of some other project, or maybe something else? All responses are welcome. Badbilltucker 15:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Great idea. Questions come to mind, however. Specifically, would this group basically set up other projects which are not yet doing assessments, and do the assessments for them, or would it have it's own banner and include assessment criteria there? Personally, I would favor the former. If so, I would certainly welcome rolling the proposed Project Support Services project proposal into this one, one way or another. Badbilltucker 18:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
(Unindent) Sorry I took a while to respond to the above request, I got distracted while working on this earlier. (We're also beta testing Version 0.5 :)). This idea would certainly be an excellent addition to the 1.0 project. We are moving from a manual system of picking articles (as used at Version 0.5) to an automated system (outlined here), to allow us to get much larger collection (V0.5 was only 2000 articles). One ongoing concern with the automated system is that there may be gaps in our selection, if we don't have projects representing that subject area. For example, we have about 2000 Pennsylvania articles (1000 assessed) to pick from, but no Maryland articles. This can affect even broader subject areas - we have Dance and Film covered, but many fine arts like painting and sculpture are not (I think!).
I think I would like to combine the efforts of this proposed group with WP:WVWP (Work via WikiProjects), which was very active (indeed WVWP + Oleg set up the bot assessment scheme), but which has lain dormant since the fall because of people's commitments elsewhere (e.g. to Version 0.5). People have also become less interested in contacting WikiProjects now that the projects are coming to us at the rate of about one per day! It is clear that the focus of WVWP should shift from trying to contact all projects, and switch to trying to focus inactive projects. Traditionally (i.e., last year!) many of these functions you describe have fallen to WVWP - we have recorded information manually from projects that are not using the bot, we have helped projects get started with the bot, and sometimes just given general guidance (the role now played by this council). We did a lot of assessments for projects that were new to the concept - Doctor Who, Adelaide, all sorts - just to help them get started. Once they had some examples of assessment of their own articles, they were able afterwards to perform their own assessments and start using the bot. Tagging articles that fell outside the jurisdiction of any active project was less relevant when we only had 50 projects using the bot; it is an excellent idea, and it is a natural evolution for WVWP to work on this.
Therefore I would like to propose that the 1.0 team and the Council collaborate closely on this, with perhaps a joint team. Two ways to do this:
I strongly favor the former, mainly because I think we don't want to multiply groups when we may only have a couple of active people in each! Also, despite our inactivity in recent months, there are still occasional edits to our manually listed tables and questions on our talk page. About a year ago we contacted all the WikiProjects ("all" as of Oct '05, much fewer than today) so the community has heard of us. Tables like Philosophy & Religion and (even worse) Humanities) desperately need updating, but there is a lot of valuable information on these tables that should be used. I'd like to find some way of expanding & updating lists like this bot list, which is (in effect) "All the Arts article assessments that come from projects not using the bot". It can be a lot of work, but in fact a couple of us were able to achieve a great deal when it was a major focus for us. What do others think? Walkerma 19:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
(Copied over from [[ WP:Council by Walkerma 04:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
There was a suggestion at WP:COUNCIL recently, copied above, that there should be a project which works on article assessment in subject areas where there are no formal WikiProjects. In addition, it could help set up new projects with templates and assessments. Since many of these tasks are already informally done here at WVWP, it made sense to combine the work here. This will mean a big change in what we do here (or haven't been doing, recently!). I will be busy trying to write a site map for 1.0 in the next few days, when finished that may help us see what needs to be done. What do folks think about this? Walkerma 04:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, how should we start this? In other words, how can we best identify articles that are (a) not assessed yet and (b) worth spending time on? Many projects have articles related to their fields that are not even tagged simply because they are relatively obscure topics. I don't want us to waste time on those because they should get covered eventually by the relevant project, and anyway they're not that important. We need to find the important articles that haven't been assessed yet. I'd like to suggest we start with Vital articles, this is a list of the top 1000 or so, and make sure these have all been assessed. Any one of these 1000 could be major enough to be its own WikiProject, so if we find any major gaps we could try and muster up interest in starting one. We might do the same with WP:CORE and WP:CORESUP, which are other lists of important articles (about 400 from the two, some of which overlap with VA) - these should all have been assessed, but the assessments may be out of date, and we may identify gaps there too. Another fruitful source of articles could be this project - we could go through the manually-generated tables and add bot-readable tags to them.
Thanks for the comments (further above) & suggestion Tito. I've tried pestering David in the past, since he was one of the early active people at 1.0, he ignored all of my posts for some reason - but I'll contact him again. Interesting that he links to the 1.0 page. Although I have always admired what they have achieved at de, I'm getting less envious of de every day - we have an open source GPL offline reader (de's is proprietary), and we have a quarter million assessed articles (de has none!). I'm hopeful that once the Version 0.5 CD comes out (we're already planning the publicity) we will get some new blood in the 1.0 projects - and maybe others like David will get involved again. As for telephone, Skype & IRC, I like these sorts of things for brainstorming - everyone is there together, and you can be open & frank about the situation knowing that stupid things you say are not on the Web (unlike here). Still, we can certainly bounce ideas round here a lot as well.
Do others have other ideas on how to proceed? I'd like us to frame a strategy before I spend a lot of time rewriting the WVWP project description. Walkerma 18:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to participate in this. I've copied as much of the relevant stuff as I could to Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Science/Assessment and the related pages (based on Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction/Assessment), and copied in the assessment code to the {{ HistSci}}. Please let me know what else I should do.-- ragesoss 21:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The Work via Wikiprojects page (whose talk page this is) looks kind of messed up for the moment I think, with that large {{ Work via Wikiprojects pages}} on top, and now with a blown up Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Statistics (the latter is my fault). It would be nice if the page were made more readable. I tried to reorganize things myself but I could not make it look good (and I don't know what's important and what should be on top). Anybody willing to work on this? Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 16:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Is Martinbot ready to do a full test run? Eyu100( t| fr| Version 1.0 Editorial Team) 00:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've just ran your bot three times and hundreds of articles seem to be missing. As you can already tell, there are several of child projects (Formula One, A1 GP etc.). Are the child projects included in the motorsport bot. The project members go round editing all parts of motorsport. Can you please try and get the children projects on the same bot as Motorsport, please. Many thanks. Can you reply on my talkpage, it's easier for me to get to. Davnel03 19:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
The importance rating has cause enough controversy and is not being used to its full potential in the Aircraft project. What would be the easiest way of removing this part from our assessment profile. Can we just delete the related categories and remove the code from the project banner? What will the bot do after this is done? - Trevor MacInnis ( Contribs) 01:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Considering his term has now expired, I was wondering if it might make sense to replace Annan on the VA list with Ban Ki-moon, his successor? John Carter 21:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I've started going through some of the articles on the VA tagging list to ensure that the relevant projects have their banners on the talk pages. I would add the WVWP tag someone mentioned on the main page here, but I don't know what it is. Can anyone help me in this regard? Thanx. John Carter 19:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I notice only Harvard University, Princeton University, and Yale University are included on the VA list. This seems to me slightly US-centric. Shouldn't at least Sorbonne, University of Cambridge and University of Oxford be included as well? John Carter 18:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the bot may be getting confused by the ampersand in the quality category. It should be depositing the stats in Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/D&D_articles_by_quality_statistics, but instead they're showing up under Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/D. The D&D articles by quality and D&D articles by quality log links aren't showing on the main page here either. How might they be fixed? Would changing the category names from the ampersand to the word "and" work? That'd be an easy fix, if so. Please to advise, thank you very much. :) -- Ebyabe 20:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The template isn't working properly on certain articles - specifically the one on Talk:Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'd fix it but I'm not sure how to and don't want to screw up a bunch of articles. Koweja 18:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I have just compiled a list of all the nominal Projects out there, and will be forwarding a list of those engaged in assessment not already listed here as doing so comparatively shortly. One question, though. At least a few projects place all their articles in a single "unassessed" class. I'm guessing you'll want to have those Projects separated out from the others? John Carter 14:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to propose we have an IRC meeting soon to plan a strategy for this project for the next year or so, held at #wikipedia-1.0. Please read this discussion to see what we're planning. I will be away in Chicago (& busy during daytime Chicago time) from 24th-29th March. What dates & times (specify time zone) would be good for people who are interested? Weekends work well for me, during evenings UTC. Walkerma 04:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out how to add class and importance ratings on the {{ environment}} template. I did some fiddling around and I think I got it working. How can I get the importance rating to show in the template, like {{ cvgproj}}? I copied the importance code from {{ album}}, which doesn't show it. Could someone check it out for me. Thanks. Mahanga Talk to me 15:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone who knows what they are doing start the "Everyday life" page and its subsections (incl. sports) please? I have content to add, but there's not place for it yet, and I just wandered in. I'm often WP:BOLD but not when I don't know the templates and formatting yet. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 23:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
As requested on the IRC meeting, here we have {{ WP1.0}}. This template will [hopefully] supercede all of the Editorial Team's banners, including v0.5, v0.7, v1.0, {{ WPCD}}, and templates for Vital articles and core topics.
Currently, it is still in beta stage; while I think I did a lot of conditional statements right (see for the template voodoo), it is still missing several things. I did not add those things as I wanted to make sure they were going to be used beforehand.
The template can replace all of the v0.5 templates; the built-in functionality should do it transparently. However, I'd like someone to double-check the category structure I put in the template, as I'm not sure whether I missed something or not.
Some other issues:
Please also review the wording, and feel free to take the template out for a spin. The usage is as follows:
{{WP1.0 | class = (as usual) | comments = (as usual) | orphan = yes / no | VA = yes / no | core = yes / no | coresup = yes / no | category = same as v0.5 | v0.5 = nom (throws an error) / pass / held / fail | v0.7 = nom / pass / held / fail | v1.0 = nom / pass / held / fail | WPCD = yes / no }}
Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 05:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I looked in one of the already-established topical sections on the page to which this talk page is attached, and all of the tables in it have headings like "Contact with Contact with WP Rational Skepticism". — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ contrib ツ 21:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see here for a list of all the projects currently engaged in assessments. I would try to add them to the lists here, but find that the fact that they aren't the same as the layout of the project Directory makes it harder for me to figure out where they go. The projects in alphabetical order are the ones that aren't yet included one the lists of projects doing assessments, the ones by page on the bottom are those which are already included in the contact pages. Is there any way to maybe contact the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council to perhaps develop a uniform breakdown of these projects? John Carter 19:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I have been inactive in this project for a while. I am coming back to work on the release version, but what happened to Martinbot? The assessments were originally going to start in January, but nothing has happened. Has British Telecom fixed his internet connection yet? Also, we might want to consider letting projects rate each other after we do a full-scale test with the multiplication scale and linkranking. Eyu100( t| fr| Version 1.0 Editorial Team) 16:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
MartinP has let me know that he has been unable to do the tests because the toolserver has kept crashing. That was giving headaches for WP 1.0 Bot and Oleg too, that's why Oleg switched back to his own server. He's been told that the problems should be fixed this week, so let's hope! Once things there are fixed, he's all ready to go. Walkerma 14:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Is I believe set up for the bot. With any luck, the statistics will appear soon. John Carter 15:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
has been set up for both quality and importance (with a LOT of willing plagarism from the WPMILHIST project and Kirill). Which raises a few questions: we are not using the standard "class=" in the template, we are using a "quality=" option. Will this wreak havoc on the toolserver (our test says it's OK, but you never know....)?
We also have some additional levels of both quality and importance. Will the bot pick up on those, or do we have to stick with the pre-set levels?
Speaking of the bot, we (hopefully soon) will be adding more attributes to our project template. Will additional tags give the bot gastritis?
We're looking forward to getting our first automated assessment! - NDCompuGeek 08:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
←With all the different layers of musical instruments to consider, instead of having task forces for each country's (or continent's) musical instruments, and with all the different genres to consider with specialized instrumentation (a classical guitar is appreciably different from a country guitar), we felt it would just be easier on the project to layer this information in with the importance scheme - except we needed another layer or two. That's why we started the "normal" class, and are actually using the "no" class as a layer also (as opposed to "unassessed"). I really hope, Steve, that it won't cause too much confusion for the 'udder' bots (even if the tags are remooo-veable) (sorry, couldn't resist the pun! I guess I'm just in a bovine moooood - I've been listening to Spike Jones and the City Slickers lately :-))~...)....
has been engaged in assessment for some time, but has yet to show any statistics. I have no idea why. John Carter 20:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
How can i add such a table to the WikiProject i work on ? Ammar ( Talk - Don't Talk) 09:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The VA articles have now all been tagged. Not all of them have directly obvious associated projects, but I have proposed projects when it seemed to me that there was sufficient volume of content to do so. I guess this leaves us somewhat up in the air. If I might propose a possibility, probably the single largest project out there, WikiProject Biography, still has a staggering number of articles unassessed. Other large projects, probably including the likes of Military history, probably have similar problems. If we were going to do any sort of other assessments, I would think that those two projects would probably be the best place to start for the possibility of reducing the backlog of unassessed/tagged articles. Thoughts? John Carter 00:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure a simple bot could list the wikiprojects ordered by the number of unassessed articles. I did a quick manual check and this is what I found. Did I miss any big wikiprojects? Number unassessed (in thousands)
Those projects sum up to 194 thousand unassessed articles. There are roughly 300K WikiProject articles unassessed, so there still remain about 106K in the remaining wikiprojects, most of which contain less than 5K unassessed articles. Can someone double check this for me? Mahanga Talk 05:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Is there any way to get an automatically created list of the number of unassessed articles the various projects have made? Given the number of projects engaged in assessments, and the changes which are no doubt made every day, it's probably the only way to know which projects are in most and least need of help. John Carter 16:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The assessment for this wikiproject has not updated in 4 days. Not quite sure what to do. Acidskater 02:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've setup everything to work properly and it does for the most part, the only problem I can see right now is this stats/quality page: Cyprus articles by quality. I don't get why it says Wikipedia:WikiProject Cypriot and Contact with WP Cypriot instead of Wikipedia:WikiProject Cyprus and Contact with WP Cyprus. Is there something I did wrong? How do I correct it, if it is wrong? El Greco ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for using the bot, and enjoy your trip to Greece! Walkerma 01:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I want to ask about assessment rating. I know that any article can move up to GA or FA status regardless of their previous ratings as long as they meet the criteria. When a GA article is downgraded, it's pretty obvious that this article belongs to B class. However, when a FA article downgrades, which class does it go back to? A class? GA class? Or B class? A good example is Gene. There doesn't seem to have a "safety net" to "catch" these articles when they are demoted. OhanaUnited 13:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if someone could help setup the assessment code for {{ WikiProject Veterinary medicine}}. I copied/adapted the code from {{ WikiProject Cats}}, but I'm not sure how/where to create the various other pages and categories that are needed (and still need more coffee...). Much thanks :) -- Quiddity 17:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I thought that I hade dropped entries to the appropriate categories to get the bot to operate last night. Though the categories were later modified by another user. Wondered if there was something I was missing from the instructions that would cause bot not to operate on them.
Thanks
Keith D 10:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I am running the bot though are brand new wikiproject. it seems like the bot is unable to create an "&" symbol. it creates a page called "Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Texas A" I was wondering if you guys could take a look at our wikiproject to see what we are doing wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Texas_A%26M Oldag07 00:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I've just run the bot on Category:LGBT articles by quality. It updates the statistics page, but it doesn't update the log page. Any ideas why? Thanks! -- SatyrTN ( talk | contribs) 16:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Where and how do I ask for articles to be rated? Fainites barley 19:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Proposal to remove the main biography project from the bot run. Oleg Alexandrov ( talk) 16:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Where's all these FAs coming from? Wikipedia:Featured articles says we currently have 1,652, but according to this page, we have 1,894! That's a big difference. Can anyone explain this? Rocket000 18:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
There are 1268521 articles w/ a wikiproject dividing this by the number of total articles of 2,121,722 we get 59.787333119041985707835428015546% (about 3 out of 5) of articles have a wikiproject -- Java7837 ( talk) 21:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Sit down; this one'll take awhile. As noted above, we currently have roughly 60% of all articles tagged. Less than that total number have yet to be assessed, however. Also, some projects which have assessment capacity haven't yet assessed many articles. This can't really help that much. Also, many projects do not do a very good job of keeping up with GAs, FAs, and Release Version selections, which doesn't help either. On the basis of all of the above, I was wondering what the rest of you might think of a proposal like this. Feel free to offer any adjustments if certain provisions are to blatantly impossible. Many of these provisions involve subjects I know nothing whatsoever about, so I expect to be told some things aren't workable.
I am trying to kickstart a somewhat new/became dead WikiProject. It seems like after its creation, no one knew about it and the list of proposed members dwindled into a couple people. Anyways, I've set up project banners, sidebars, and now I'm trying to get this whole assessment deal squared away. I've been working with WP:UNI a little bit, and I've noticed that I cannot get that table of # of articles vs. assessment class made. It looks like a bot operation, which I've ran http://www.math.ucla.edu/~aoleg/wp/wp10/run_wp10.cgi the bot]] for Robotics already, but I don't know how to view the results yet (part of it might also be I don't know how to seek out all of the robotics articles and then assess all of them, and then get it on that table). If I can get some pointers as to how I could do all of that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 08:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi all. It is commndable to see efforts to rate articles with the aim of improving quality. The system being adopted is no doubt helping as a fairly crude classification system. Without collecting and analysing any rating data, it's difficult to say how effective the process is. If anyone is interested in refining the system, let me know. There are ways to improve the assessment system. Like anything worth doing, they involve some work. It seems these some emphasis is being place on these ratings. While I do not have any problem with them being used heuristically, as an expert in the area, I have strong (but constructive) criticism regarding them being used to make important determinations. I have not had a great deal of time to edit lately, and am not sure exactly what they are being used for. I do know, however, that ratings tend to get treated by many as a lot more precise and valid than they actually are. I have suggested elswhere ways of doing ratings more rigorously. If anyone is interested, I'll tell you more. Cheers Holon ( talk) 07:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
This table only shows the articles assessed as stubs but not the other classes:
Can anyone fix it? Best regards, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm probably being dumb, but I can't fathom why the bot isn't picking up the importance splits on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Gymnastics articles by quality statistics. IfI'm being dumb, how do I go about fixing this? Thanks! -- ratarsed ( talk) 18:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Can anybody help on how to ask for a re-assessment? Reactive attachment disorder (a DSM and ICD-10 classification) was assessed as mid-importance and Attachment disorder (a vague term) was assessed as high. This really ought to be the other way round. Its not particularly important but I can't work out who decides these things. Fainites barley 23:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
The project page says "People conducting assessments are encouraged to use/evaluate Outriggr's tool (currently being beta tested).". The problem is that Outrigger has recently had the script deleted is there an alternative tool that can be used to perform assessments? Keith D ( talk) 22:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there are reason why Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates was omitted from the automated selection of articles for Version 0.7? - Visionholder ( talk) 02:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi there - just wanted to leave a note saying that the ITC Entertainment Wikiproject is active and an ongoing project. I saw that a note was left on the project discussion page a long time ago but no response had been given from us (for my part, it was during a time when I wasn't very active on WP). Howie ☎ 14:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Not sure what's changed with the latest release, but with the manual tool down, I can't find how to create an assessment table for Category:Ontario_road_articles_by_quality. I can make one on the Toolserver, but the page on wikipedia ( Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Ontario_road_articles_by_quality_statistics) is blank, despite there being an entry on the index.
What'd I b0rk? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 18:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that several wikiprojects put assessment tags on redirect pages. Does 1.0 have any official opinion on this? Doing so has some organizational benifits, but it also greatly inflates the class=NA category and gives a lot of extra work to the bot, so I was wondering whether the people running Work Via Wikiprojects care either way. -- Arctic Gnome ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The Public Policy Initiative is recruiting Wikipedians to assess article quality improvement. We are testing the metric for consistency and to see if there are differences between Wikipedian scores and subject matter expert scores. We are looking to identify the strengths and weakness of the current assessment system since we are using that system to evaluate article quality improvement through the project. Check out WikiProject: U.S. Public Policy if interested. Thanks! ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 23:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Greetings. I'm working with the WP:Article Incubator, and would like to improve the assessment structure. Currently only articles that have graduated out of the Incubator are assessed (see Category:Article Incubator articles by quality). But the Candidate articles are not. Candidate articles are outside of mainspace, and are 'works in progress' (see: Category:Articles in the Article Incubator).
Is it possible to set up assessments for the Candidate articles, even though they are outside the mainspace? For example, Move Category:Article Incubator articles by quality to Category:Article Incubator Graduate Articles by quality, then Create Category:Article Incubator Candidate Articles by quality. So the Incubator would end up with 2 assessment groups, one for public articles, and one for internal work. Thanks. Eclipsed ¤ 11:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)