![]() | This help page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||
|
|
|||
This page has archives. Sections older than 180 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 2 sections are present. |
Apparently there is "no English equivalent" for ɽʱ (ढ़). Surely the "rdh" sound in "birdhouse", "hardhat", etc. is a good approximation? Rajdooot ( talk) 02:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
A user has recently added a "Devangari representation" to the table, do we really need it? I'm guessing someone down the line will add an "Urdu representation", and then for the vowels as well, and it will just become a giant mess.
Personally, I don't think it should be included, but I didn't want to straight up remove it. نعم البدل ( talk) 02:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Kwamikagami Hi! You reverted my edits in which I changed the example for /tʃʰ/ and /kʰ/ from "achoo" and "cab" to "hitchhike" and "backhand". My thought with those changes that it would make the aspiration stronger and clearer for American and British English speakers who are attempting to approximate these sounds; we have similiar compound words as examples for the murmured consonants (birdhouse and clubhouse), and so I didn't think the change would be controversial. Additionally, as "achoo" is onamatopoeic, it's pronunciation can be less than consistent, so I think another word would be more suitable there in any case. What do you think?
If there is consensus for this change, I was also planning on changing the examples for the other aspirated consonants to words such as courthouse, whitehead, and loophole.
I also added a dental diacritic to d, dʰ, and n for consistency with t̪ and t̪ʰ. In my opinion, we should either consistently include the dental diactric for this consonant series or consistently not include it, but this mixture seems to me to be confusing as it implies a phonemeic distinction in the place of articulation for t̪ and t̪ʰ as compared to d, dʰ, and n.
Indigopari ( talk) 13:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
![]() | This help page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||
|
|
|||
This page has archives. Sections older than 180 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 2 sections are present. |
Apparently there is "no English equivalent" for ɽʱ (ढ़). Surely the "rdh" sound in "birdhouse", "hardhat", etc. is a good approximation? Rajdooot ( talk) 02:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
A user has recently added a "Devangari representation" to the table, do we really need it? I'm guessing someone down the line will add an "Urdu representation", and then for the vowels as well, and it will just become a giant mess.
Personally, I don't think it should be included, but I didn't want to straight up remove it. نعم البدل ( talk) 02:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Kwamikagami Hi! You reverted my edits in which I changed the example for /tʃʰ/ and /kʰ/ from "achoo" and "cab" to "hitchhike" and "backhand". My thought with those changes that it would make the aspiration stronger and clearer for American and British English speakers who are attempting to approximate these sounds; we have similiar compound words as examples for the murmured consonants (birdhouse and clubhouse), and so I didn't think the change would be controversial. Additionally, as "achoo" is onamatopoeic, it's pronunciation can be less than consistent, so I think another word would be more suitable there in any case. What do you think?
If there is consensus for this change, I was also planning on changing the examples for the other aspirated consonants to words such as courthouse, whitehead, and loophole.
I also added a dental diacritic to d, dʰ, and n for consistency with t̪ and t̪ʰ. In my opinion, we should either consistently include the dental diactric for this consonant series or consistently not include it, but this mixture seems to me to be confusing as it implies a phonemeic distinction in the place of articulation for t̪ and t̪ʰ as compared to d, dʰ, and n.
Indigopari ( talk) 13:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)