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I discovered numerous Coupe de France season articles. According to the articles, over 5000 teams are involved in the qualifying competition, with 153 of those progressing to round 7 in the 2023-24 season. I would like to ask whether the community here believes the articles merit individual pages. Perhaps the 'preliminary rounds' pages as they currently are, such as this one go into sufficient detail. Although these pages look like they may have previously been WP:SPLIT, notability must be established for such pages to be kept. Listing some such pages here - this is not an exhaustive list.
Thanks, C 679 05:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I want to make people aware about discussions about the inclusion of Catalonia in certain football articles in the lead sections. The pages User talk:Panenkazo and Talk:Salvador Dalí are the places of discussions going on earlier today. What's more concerning is the scale of damage done by edit warring and how many football players from the region are affected over the past two days. Iggy ( Swan) ( Contribs) 21:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Example: Sergi Roberto is a SPANISH footballer. He was born (as well put/written in his early career) in Reus, Tarragona, Catalonia. He is not from Catalonia, he is from Spain. People may identify themselves as Catalan/Basque/Flemish if they wish to do so, all the right in the world, but unless/until those regions are countries in their own right, we must not overelaborate.
Attentively -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 18:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Just a sidenote: now (at least in Sergi Roberto, the only footballer in this regard i currently edit) we have another editor supporting Panenkazo (who have just said in their page that anyone reinstating the version without "Catalan" is vandalising)'s point of view. Like i said, even though i strongly oppose this, i will not edit(war) and that's a promise! -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Nothing to do with the anonymous user(s) reverting, the minute you reverted me at S. Roberto i stopped editing there and waited for the result of this discussion. This is the FIRST and LAST time you accuse of vandalising OK, been here for 18 years and never did it once. Of course, if you still doubt my reply, you can report me and see where it goes. -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Anonymous user(s) has/have already been blocked (see here /info/en/?search=User_talk:2804:14C:7F80:8296:7559:1C3E:3725:B6EA), and he/they are from Brazil. I am from Portugal, hopefully that's the end of the unfounded accusations. Thanks. -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 15:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Is there some kind of consensus for these types of edits outside of WP:FOOTY? Because my understanding of this situation was that we did not include sub-national origins or ethnicity in the lead. I know that the UK and its constituent countries are an exception for football for obvious reasons, but why would Catalonia be an exception? Jay eyem ( talk) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Wow. That comment about Bavaria and Brittany not having their own languages, culture and history was really something. Breton isn't even from the same family as French, which makes it even more unique than Catalan. I'm judging from this user's history that it's a WP:SPA to boost Catalonia, but usually people like that have solidarity with other cultures in Europe. Basically, no regional identities exist except Catalans. No other countries existed in the past except Catalonia and no independence movement exists except the Catalan. We wouldn't allow a user who thinks white people are unique, so I don't know why we tolerate someone who thinks the same about Catalans. See below as well when he says Lamine Yamal doesn't have a Spanish name because his father's surname is from Morocco (where 20% of the Spanish language comes from). Although he's doing this to minimise Spain (Mr Magoo would see that from the edit history) it's ironically also the view of Vox sympathisers. If you look on the WP: Catalonia thread, an IP writes (in Spanish) that Lamine is not Spanish because a passport doesn't change your genetics. That's excellent company to be keeping. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 05:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
WP:MOSETHNICITY applies here. Players should be described as Spanish/French/German etc. not Catalan/Brittany/Bavarian. Scotland/Wales are different as they have a FIFA recognised national team. Giant Snowman 08:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
People will always want to identify with something, but regarding footballer articles, apart from mentioning the town or city they were born in along with the Catalonia region of Spain, they are all Spanish footballers. And that's what we need to stick too. Govvy ( talk) 10:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
But this ONLY for Catalan sportspeople? No such approach for Galicians, Basques, Andalusians? Okeydokey... Seeing that 99% of this thread's opinions are AGAINST this approach, why must we accommodate? -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
For anyone in an article-creating mood, the 2024 Summer Olympics starts in two weeks and there's a decent number of qualified football players missing articles, many of whom I suspect are likely notable. In the men's tournament, there are 50 missing player articles, including two team captains, as well as one head coach without an article (also two clubs which have representation without articles). In the women's tournament, there are 7 missing player articles and 2 head coaches. Any with interesting facts can be featured at DYK during the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Special_occasion_idea:_Olympics for more information. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I don't suppose anywhere has player appearance data for players in the Lowland League in Scotland? Echetus Xe 10:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Aral FC, a football club in Uzbekistan, would benefit from some non-broken references from reliable sources. LeapTorchGear ( talk) 11:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, if anyone can't get enough of politics after our recent Catalan discussion, I tagged this image as of disputed neutrality and commented on a talk page discussion. Seeing that the article was on the front page, I went back on it and the image is still tagged for neutrality - and nobody at all has commented on the talk page.
In short, this image presents the Falkland Islands and South Georgia as part of Argentina, albeit in hash-stripes if you make the image really big. While the hashing indicates a disputed zone, it's still only showing one nation's point of view of the world, as the map doesn't show any other disputed zones such as Venezuela's claim to Guayana Essequiba. The uninhabited rainforests of Essequiba, just like the research stations of South Georgia, have nothing to do with football.
My personal view is that the Falklands and South Georgia can just be struck from the map. No Argentine footballers are from there, or have probably even been there. The map could also be simplified by striking off the Galapagos Islands, in case the average reader doesn't know that they're part of Ecuador. Someone on talk asked where Hawaii was on the map, which made me realise there's a balance between an accurate and a practical map diagram. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 12:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
There's been a lot of editing back and forth regarding whether France received third place honours for being losing semi-finalists at this year's Euros. My assumption was that we wouldn't include them due to there being no third-place play-offs at the Euros. However, I noticed that 3rd place seems to be included for the majority of losing semi-finalists post-1980. Has there been some discussion on this page before/is there a rule I'm not aware of? A talk page discussion has been started there Michaeldble ( talk) 13:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Anyone want to help here, an SPA wants to ignore WP:LANGVAR despite my explanation of Wiki Conventions. RedPatch ( talk) 02:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm a bit worried about this undiscussed edit: [11]. As a results, lots of football squads tables at the major tournaments (and elsewhere) no longer take the whole width of the page, as it was customary until now. Thoughts? Should it be kept? Reverted? -- BlameRuiner ( talk) 10:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Not utterly irrelevant to your point but not entire related; I've only just realised, due to @ BlameRuiner:'s point, that this Template:National football squad start (goals) is why the date of birth column was messed up for the last year - I thought it was just Wikipedia's new appearance change. If we're looking to change the one above then could we get a ruling on this as well? Felixsv7 ( talk) 14:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
There is a new editor who seems convinced that Uruguay are four time world champions because they won gold at the Olympics in the 1920s as well as the World Cup in 1930 and 1950. For example on the Germany national football team article, they added: "Germany is one of the most successful national teams in international competitions, having won four FIFA World Cups ( 1954, 1974, 1990, 2014), tied with Uruguay [12], Italy, and only one less than the most successful team, Brazil." All of their edits are related to combining the two tournaments.
Although I do not have a great deal of knowledge on this period of football, this seems very misleading. I have also asked the editor to start a talk page discussion rather than to continually reinstate their changes. Does anyone have any perspective of this?
I've placed it here as this has been done across several pages: Uruguay: [13], Germany: [14], Argentina: [15], 1930 FIFA World Cup: [16]
Pinging @ User:Kante4 as they were involved too. Kind regards Michaeldble ( talk) 20:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC) Michaeldble ( talk) 20:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
( edit conflict) The whole story sounds a little murky. I could see explanations going either way and it seems to depend on who we're sourcing as well. Anyways, when mentioned it should probably be slightly elaborated on and linked to an appropriate article. -- SuperJew ( talk) 23:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
It is of note that the logo of the 1930 World Cup, organized by Uruguay, reads: "1er Campeonato Mundial de Football" (emphasis added). -- Theurgist ( talk) 03:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Worked on Greek football clubs in European competitions multiple times. There is an ongoing edit war with an IP user there. Need your help and someone else's neutral pov to dissolve this. Recent edit history and Talk page will guide you on this. Thank you Abudabanas ( talk) 17:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Good Evening. I am the anonymous Mr. Abudabanas is in dispute with. First of all he is lying since there is no edit war in the entry. He came, made a bunch of cancellations as he saw fit and started the war. It doesn't even allow to write there. We opened a conversation on the talk page. Because he had nothing documented, he started writing on other users' pages and asking for the entry to be locked. He does the same here. Anyway check out our chat and judge. /info/en/?search=Talk:Greek_football_clubs_in_European_competitions#Table_of_the_top_4_Greek_teams_in_the_European_cups — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:586:813D:2A91:BC4D:358E:D352:1447 ( talk) 18:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Your opinion on this. Do you think that a Round of 16 participation in a European competition should be added as a distiction or it is more proper/valid that at least a quarter-final app should be credited as a distiction for the Greek teams? Greek clubs have reached at least the quarter-finals of a European competition 19 times. Including the Round of 16 apps you will need to add another 38 times I think. Is it equitable for a team to state that they distinguished themselves when they reached a Round with 15 others? In 2024, Olympiacos became the first Greek club winning a European trophy (Conference League) and other landmarks in Greek football history are Panathinaikos as runners-up of the 1971 European Cup and twice as semi-finalists (1985, 1996). Best UEFA Cup performance by AEK Athens (semi-finals, 1977). These are the numbers. What do you think? Abudabanas ( talk) 18:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I know this discussion already took place in 2020, but it may be worth revisiting it. With his recent Copa América win, many media outlets reported Messi as having won 45 trophies, [1] including the infamous 2005 Supercopa de España. Inter Miami CF and Major League Soccer also celebrated his achievement. [2] Back in 2020, it was determined in the aforementioned discussion that since Messi was not called up for either games of the 2005 Supercopa de España, then he would have not received a medal. However, according to this article published on 13 August 2005 (the day of the first leg of the final) by Mundo Deportivo, Messi was in fact called up for the game, making him eligible to receive a medal. Considering this, and the fact that also FC Barcelona [3] and FIFA [4] attribute this trophy to Messi, I think we could reconsider the decision of not counting this particular achievement. Mazewaxie ( talk • contribs) 07:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
References
Hello all. Wonder if anybody can help by adding a reliable source to Eddie Gallagher (footballer), who played in the Scottish leagues in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Have found very little to corroborate anything so far. If you have anything, please go ahead and add it directly to the article. Thanks, C 679 15:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Under the Results and fixtures section for a national (under-22, if it matters) football club, how many years of results should typically be included? Is there any standard for this? GhostOfNoMeme 21:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
For the benefit of those who don't know, Fabrizio Romano is a sports journalist who focuses on the football transfer market. His whole thing is that he appears to have the inside track on revealing transfers before they've been made public by the clubs involved. His reporting seems to be not bad in terms of accuracy, but also at odds with the goals of an encyclopedia. Given that Romano primarily publishes on social media, and his subjects are obviously always living people, citing Romano's reporting directly will run afoul of WP:SPS. I'd like gauge opinion on secondary sources that rely on his reporting. Given what he tends report on, my thinking is that sources claiming that a transfer is complete, based on reporting by Romano, should generally be considered unreliable, but I'd like to hear what others think on this. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 02:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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I discovered numerous Coupe de France season articles. According to the articles, over 5000 teams are involved in the qualifying competition, with 153 of those progressing to round 7 in the 2023-24 season. I would like to ask whether the community here believes the articles merit individual pages. Perhaps the 'preliminary rounds' pages as they currently are, such as this one go into sufficient detail. Although these pages look like they may have previously been WP:SPLIT, notability must be established for such pages to be kept. Listing some such pages here - this is not an exhaustive list.
Thanks, C 679 05:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I want to make people aware about discussions about the inclusion of Catalonia in certain football articles in the lead sections. The pages User talk:Panenkazo and Talk:Salvador Dalí are the places of discussions going on earlier today. What's more concerning is the scale of damage done by edit warring and how many football players from the region are affected over the past two days. Iggy ( Swan) ( Contribs) 21:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Example: Sergi Roberto is a SPANISH footballer. He was born (as well put/written in his early career) in Reus, Tarragona, Catalonia. He is not from Catalonia, he is from Spain. People may identify themselves as Catalan/Basque/Flemish if they wish to do so, all the right in the world, but unless/until those regions are countries in their own right, we must not overelaborate.
Attentively -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 18:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Just a sidenote: now (at least in Sergi Roberto, the only footballer in this regard i currently edit) we have another editor supporting Panenkazo (who have just said in their page that anyone reinstating the version without "Catalan" is vandalising)'s point of view. Like i said, even though i strongly oppose this, i will not edit(war) and that's a promise! -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Nothing to do with the anonymous user(s) reverting, the minute you reverted me at S. Roberto i stopped editing there and waited for the result of this discussion. This is the FIRST and LAST time you accuse of vandalising OK, been here for 18 years and never did it once. Of course, if you still doubt my reply, you can report me and see where it goes. -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Anonymous user(s) has/have already been blocked (see here /info/en/?search=User_talk:2804:14C:7F80:8296:7559:1C3E:3725:B6EA), and he/they are from Brazil. I am from Portugal, hopefully that's the end of the unfounded accusations. Thanks. -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 15:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Is there some kind of consensus for these types of edits outside of WP:FOOTY? Because my understanding of this situation was that we did not include sub-national origins or ethnicity in the lead. I know that the UK and its constituent countries are an exception for football for obvious reasons, but why would Catalonia be an exception? Jay eyem ( talk) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Wow. That comment about Bavaria and Brittany not having their own languages, culture and history was really something. Breton isn't even from the same family as French, which makes it even more unique than Catalan. I'm judging from this user's history that it's a WP:SPA to boost Catalonia, but usually people like that have solidarity with other cultures in Europe. Basically, no regional identities exist except Catalans. No other countries existed in the past except Catalonia and no independence movement exists except the Catalan. We wouldn't allow a user who thinks white people are unique, so I don't know why we tolerate someone who thinks the same about Catalans. See below as well when he says Lamine Yamal doesn't have a Spanish name because his father's surname is from Morocco (where 20% of the Spanish language comes from). Although he's doing this to minimise Spain (Mr Magoo would see that from the edit history) it's ironically also the view of Vox sympathisers. If you look on the WP: Catalonia thread, an IP writes (in Spanish) that Lamine is not Spanish because a passport doesn't change your genetics. That's excellent company to be keeping. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 05:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
WP:MOSETHNICITY applies here. Players should be described as Spanish/French/German etc. not Catalan/Brittany/Bavarian. Scotland/Wales are different as they have a FIFA recognised national team. Giant Snowman 08:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
People will always want to identify with something, but regarding footballer articles, apart from mentioning the town or city they were born in along with the Catalonia region of Spain, they are all Spanish footballers. And that's what we need to stick too. Govvy ( talk) 10:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
But this ONLY for Catalan sportspeople? No such approach for Galicians, Basques, Andalusians? Okeydokey... Seeing that 99% of this thread's opinions are AGAINST this approach, why must we accommodate? -- RevampedEditor ( talk) 14:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
For anyone in an article-creating mood, the 2024 Summer Olympics starts in two weeks and there's a decent number of qualified football players missing articles, many of whom I suspect are likely notable. In the men's tournament, there are 50 missing player articles, including two team captains, as well as one head coach without an article (also two clubs which have representation without articles). In the women's tournament, there are 7 missing player articles and 2 head coaches. Any with interesting facts can be featured at DYK during the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Special_occasion_idea:_Olympics for more information. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 20:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I don't suppose anywhere has player appearance data for players in the Lowland League in Scotland? Echetus Xe 10:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Aral FC, a football club in Uzbekistan, would benefit from some non-broken references from reliable sources. LeapTorchGear ( talk) 11:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, if anyone can't get enough of politics after our recent Catalan discussion, I tagged this image as of disputed neutrality and commented on a talk page discussion. Seeing that the article was on the front page, I went back on it and the image is still tagged for neutrality - and nobody at all has commented on the talk page.
In short, this image presents the Falkland Islands and South Georgia as part of Argentina, albeit in hash-stripes if you make the image really big. While the hashing indicates a disputed zone, it's still only showing one nation's point of view of the world, as the map doesn't show any other disputed zones such as Venezuela's claim to Guayana Essequiba. The uninhabited rainforests of Essequiba, just like the research stations of South Georgia, have nothing to do with football.
My personal view is that the Falklands and South Georgia can just be struck from the map. No Argentine footballers are from there, or have probably even been there. The map could also be simplified by striking off the Galapagos Islands, in case the average reader doesn't know that they're part of Ecuador. Someone on talk asked where Hawaii was on the map, which made me realise there's a balance between an accurate and a practical map diagram. Unknown Temptation ( talk) 12:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
There's been a lot of editing back and forth regarding whether France received third place honours for being losing semi-finalists at this year's Euros. My assumption was that we wouldn't include them due to there being no third-place play-offs at the Euros. However, I noticed that 3rd place seems to be included for the majority of losing semi-finalists post-1980. Has there been some discussion on this page before/is there a rule I'm not aware of? A talk page discussion has been started there Michaeldble ( talk) 13:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Anyone want to help here, an SPA wants to ignore WP:LANGVAR despite my explanation of Wiki Conventions. RedPatch ( talk) 02:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm a bit worried about this undiscussed edit: [11]. As a results, lots of football squads tables at the major tournaments (and elsewhere) no longer take the whole width of the page, as it was customary until now. Thoughts? Should it be kept? Reverted? -- BlameRuiner ( talk) 10:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Not utterly irrelevant to your point but not entire related; I've only just realised, due to @ BlameRuiner:'s point, that this Template:National football squad start (goals) is why the date of birth column was messed up for the last year - I thought it was just Wikipedia's new appearance change. If we're looking to change the one above then could we get a ruling on this as well? Felixsv7 ( talk) 14:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
There is a new editor who seems convinced that Uruguay are four time world champions because they won gold at the Olympics in the 1920s as well as the World Cup in 1930 and 1950. For example on the Germany national football team article, they added: "Germany is one of the most successful national teams in international competitions, having won four FIFA World Cups ( 1954, 1974, 1990, 2014), tied with Uruguay [12], Italy, and only one less than the most successful team, Brazil." All of their edits are related to combining the two tournaments.
Although I do not have a great deal of knowledge on this period of football, this seems very misleading. I have also asked the editor to start a talk page discussion rather than to continually reinstate their changes. Does anyone have any perspective of this?
I've placed it here as this has been done across several pages: Uruguay: [13], Germany: [14], Argentina: [15], 1930 FIFA World Cup: [16]
Pinging @ User:Kante4 as they were involved too. Kind regards Michaeldble ( talk) 20:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC) Michaeldble ( talk) 20:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
( edit conflict) The whole story sounds a little murky. I could see explanations going either way and it seems to depend on who we're sourcing as well. Anyways, when mentioned it should probably be slightly elaborated on and linked to an appropriate article. -- SuperJew ( talk) 23:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
It is of note that the logo of the 1930 World Cup, organized by Uruguay, reads: "1er Campeonato Mundial de Football" (emphasis added). -- Theurgist ( talk) 03:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Worked on Greek football clubs in European competitions multiple times. There is an ongoing edit war with an IP user there. Need your help and someone else's neutral pov to dissolve this. Recent edit history and Talk page will guide you on this. Thank you Abudabanas ( talk) 17:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Good Evening. I am the anonymous Mr. Abudabanas is in dispute with. First of all he is lying since there is no edit war in the entry. He came, made a bunch of cancellations as he saw fit and started the war. It doesn't even allow to write there. We opened a conversation on the talk page. Because he had nothing documented, he started writing on other users' pages and asking for the entry to be locked. He does the same here. Anyway check out our chat and judge. /info/en/?search=Talk:Greek_football_clubs_in_European_competitions#Table_of_the_top_4_Greek_teams_in_the_European_cups — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:586:813D:2A91:BC4D:358E:D352:1447 ( talk) 18:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Your opinion on this. Do you think that a Round of 16 participation in a European competition should be added as a distiction or it is more proper/valid that at least a quarter-final app should be credited as a distiction for the Greek teams? Greek clubs have reached at least the quarter-finals of a European competition 19 times. Including the Round of 16 apps you will need to add another 38 times I think. Is it equitable for a team to state that they distinguished themselves when they reached a Round with 15 others? In 2024, Olympiacos became the first Greek club winning a European trophy (Conference League) and other landmarks in Greek football history are Panathinaikos as runners-up of the 1971 European Cup and twice as semi-finalists (1985, 1996). Best UEFA Cup performance by AEK Athens (semi-finals, 1977). These are the numbers. What do you think? Abudabanas ( talk) 18:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I know this discussion already took place in 2020, but it may be worth revisiting it. With his recent Copa América win, many media outlets reported Messi as having won 45 trophies, [1] including the infamous 2005 Supercopa de España. Inter Miami CF and Major League Soccer also celebrated his achievement. [2] Back in 2020, it was determined in the aforementioned discussion that since Messi was not called up for either games of the 2005 Supercopa de España, then he would have not received a medal. However, according to this article published on 13 August 2005 (the day of the first leg of the final) by Mundo Deportivo, Messi was in fact called up for the game, making him eligible to receive a medal. Considering this, and the fact that also FC Barcelona [3] and FIFA [4] attribute this trophy to Messi, I think we could reconsider the decision of not counting this particular achievement. Mazewaxie ( talk • contribs) 07:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
References
Hello all. Wonder if anybody can help by adding a reliable source to Eddie Gallagher (footballer), who played in the Scottish leagues in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Have found very little to corroborate anything so far. If you have anything, please go ahead and add it directly to the article. Thanks, C 679 15:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Under the Results and fixtures section for a national (under-22, if it matters) football club, how many years of results should typically be included? Is there any standard for this? GhostOfNoMeme 21:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
For the benefit of those who don't know, Fabrizio Romano is a sports journalist who focuses on the football transfer market. His whole thing is that he appears to have the inside track on revealing transfers before they've been made public by the clubs involved. His reporting seems to be not bad in terms of accuracy, but also at odds with the goals of an encyclopedia. Given that Romano primarily publishes on social media, and his subjects are obviously always living people, citing Romano's reporting directly will run afoul of WP:SPS. I'd like gauge opinion on secondary sources that rely on his reporting. Given what he tends report on, my thinking is that sources claiming that a transfer is complete, based on reporting by Romano, should generally be considered unreliable, but I'd like to hear what others think on this. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 02:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)