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I found this item while looking around on Google. I think it might be useful re: copyvio stuff. Here is an excerpt:
What's the "Usage Rights" advanced search feature?
Our "Usage Rights" feature helps you find published content -- including music, photos, movies, books, and educational materials -- that you can share or modify above and beyond fair use.
Sct72 02:29, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I have a suspicion that the last two sections of this article are from some sort of copyrighted material for the following reasons:
I'm certain that the first two paragraphs, as well as the image, are fine, which is why I didn't place a copyvio tag on the article. That, and I don't have solid proof that it is indeed a copyright violation, only a strong suspicion.
- Nameneko 07:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This page is an absolute mess. I appreciate there's an enormous backlog, but this rather disorganised and confused layout will not facilitate cleaning that up. I was going to do some heavy refactoring on the page, then I realised that there are at least two - and possibly more - bots running maintenance on this page, so I'm loathe to go changing it.
What I would like to see is a clear, linear procedure set out for dealing with copyright infringement; putting newer discussion at the top, and older discussion (which administrators need to clean up) at the bottom of the page. Clear instructions for dealing with copyright infringement ought to be at the top, and we should direct users to the other avenues for deletion, such as the new speedy criteria for blatant infringement. In addition, it might be an excellent idea to have a notice directing content owners to the page for requests for immediate takedown, as they might stumble upon this page.
Thoughts and comments welcome. We've got to do something about this. Rob Church Talk | FAD 08:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This has been discussed here, but there was no conclusion or consensus. "Commercial content provider" is being interpreted in two very different ways. Some are including commercial sites of any kind and others think that it is only for sites that are selling the content itself. I'd prefer the former (plus non-commercial sites when permission is not asserted), but I think the latter is what people agreed to. -- Kjkolb 08:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
It was clear in the discussions that framed this CSD that by "commercial content provider" was meant soemone directly making money off the content. had we thoguh people could have mis--read this as "commercial site" the wording would have been made more explicit. The reason was simple. That was the only class of site where it was thought 100% certian that a GFDL release would never be given. If any other class of site is similarly assured, please suggest a change of wording on Wikipedia Talk:Criteria for speedy deletion or the current thread on this on the village pump (Policy) at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#New CSD for blatent copyvios issues ( archived discussion). DES (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm planning to start a Counter Copyvio Unit as I'm involved in keeping copyrighted materials away from Wikipedia. Any thoughts or suggestions on this. I may or maynot be a member myself (I hate memberships) but I think someone like me who finds that blatant copyvios are emanating from one anon user or in an article for a time period would make use of the unit to do the job. Many might find the violations but might not have time immediately to curb/report it and in the meanwhile other editors might edit it making it a waste of energy for the genuine contributors. Thus the idea. I've posted a similar message on the Counter Vandalism Unit talk page. Tx Idleguy 11:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
The instructions on Wikipedia:Copyright problems for using the {{copyvio}} tag are inappropriate, as they presuppose that all copyright violations are taken from Internet resources. That is, the instructions "Blank the page and replace the text with {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~" are impossible to follow if the copying has been done from a book, print magazine, or other offline source. Could someone familiar with the copyvio process please amend these instructions to cover such cases? Psychonaut 06:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi all - I'm interested in helping out with the backlog here. I've run across the same thing twice now, and I'm not sure what to do about it. In some cases, people will simply remove the copyvio tag and write a new (non-copyvio) version of the article. This leaves the copyvio in the history. I know that in the instructions you suggest deleting new versions of the article that are copyvio when restoring it to the old version. But this is a sightly different case. Should we delete the old versions of the article when the current one is not copyvio too? --best, kevin ··· Kzollman | Talk··· 15:28, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I dont know much about wikipedia, but did this statment, added on go through much debate:
This statment completly ignores fair use, which is a legal use of copyright.
Date the stament was added: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&oldid=23313193
Old Statment/layout: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&oldid=23312172
Comparisons between the two: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&diff=23313193&oldid=23312172 Travb 01:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Could someone explain the process that goes on here more clearly? I've marked a lot of copyvios, but I still don't quite understand what happens next. I guess the first step after listing would be to determine if it is really a copyright violation. If it is, is it just left on the page until seven days have passed, unless someone bothers to provide evidence that it isn't or gets permission? If that's the case, then why is there a backlog? Does the deleting administrator try to get permission if nobody else has tried or is that left to the uploader and other users? Do you try to get permission for bad articles?
Also, if a copyvio is identified after a terrible article has been put on Articles for Deletion, should the voting stop, especially in those cases where there's a good chance the author will give permission for it to be used? Thanks -- Kjkolb 10:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Could regulars please comment on Royal Gibraltar Police? There is a dispute - and general antipathy - between two editors ( Gibraltarian ( talk · contribs) and Ecemaml ( talk · contribs)) there over an alleged copyright violation. It would best be resolved quickly to prevent the dispute escalating. It appears to me to be copy-vio, and the article was once speedily deleted as such, but I would like others more knowledgeable in copyright laws to comment. -- Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:04, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
The article Michael Bell appears to be a straight cut-and-paste, of an IMDB page, complete with its headers:
Is this considered a copyright violation, or just extreme laziness? -- Calton | Talk 05:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Wales, I am a newbie to wikipedia, just about a month. I want to thank you so much for your invention.
I have spend days trying to figure out the official policy of wikipedia on "fair use" of text.
I am interested in what the policy is on "Fair use Text"--there has been a lot of arguments about fair use of images, but I can't find your/wikipedia's stand exactly on text. The Wikipedia:Copyright problems page as it is currently written is very anti-fair use.
On 29 September 2005 Mwanner had added a Copyright sentence which still stands, that stated in bold type:
(I originally incorrectly said Splash was the author,not Mwanner. For this I apologize)
To my knowledge (and I may be wrong), before this sentence was posted, no lawyer was consulted, no study of previous Case law precedence on free use and copyright was studied, and even at a minimum, there wasn't even any wikipublic debate about this sentence and its ramifications for wikipedia. This sentence, and much of wikipedia information on copyright violations ignores fair use.
I think that many wikipedia administrators and many wikipedia posters have forgotten the true goal and spirit of wikipedia. That they are destroying information and are destroying the spirit and intention of wikipedia to create "the largest encyclopedia in history".
If I cut and pasted a 300 word copyrighted article, would this be a violation of fair use?
If I put a footnote refering to the article as a source, would this be fair use?
What if I posted this warning on the bottom?
A warning similar to what is found on tens of thousands of pages on the internet:
This article is copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Travb (or we) is/are making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding of the ***. Travb (or we) believe(s) this constitutes a ' fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
I attempted this on five pages posted as copyright violations, and my changes were quickly reverted and the copyright page was quickly returned. [5]
Right now, the volunteer copyright police are incredibly agressive, they slap up a copyright violation notice, then ask questions later. There is:
The way that wikipedia is set up now, it appears like there is a small group of volunteer copyright police who erase text with impunity.
How does this further the vision of "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge" in your own words?
Isn't this a direct contradiction?
Wouldn't it be better to have those people whose text is copyrighted and posted on wikipedia ask the administrators to erase the copyright material? In otherwords, put the burden of copyright policing on those who have the copyrighted material?
How can I get a clear explanation of wikipedia's policy?
The more I read on fair use of text on wikipedia, the more I get confused, and I am a second year law student: used to reading complex ideas and text. My evidence and civil procedure classes are easier to comprehend than this confusing mess. If I am confused, how can the average person, who doesnt read law school text make sense of fair use policy?-- Travb 02:27, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
All edits are released under the GFDL (see WP:Copyrights). [...] Only public domain resources can be copied exactly—this does not include most web pages."
OK. Having thought about this for a while, and having read up a bit on fair use, I propose to re-add the offending sentence, ammended as follows:
I realize that this is a considerably stricter standard than one finds in university course pack guidelines. This is because Wikipedia is published to a much wider audience, and our material must be useable by commercial mirror sites. See Wikipedia:Fair use and [6].
I would welcome any comments. Please bear in mind, though, that the purpose of this statement is to express the heart of the matter in a few words so that people might actually read them. A major failing of Wikipedia policy statements is that it's hard to get through them without the eyes glazing over. Most people who turn to policy statements are trying to get something else done, not become experts in tort law.
-- Mwanner | Talk 12:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree that we are unlikely to have a fair use claim on entire articles, although I am neither American nor a lawyer. I would also like to repeat what I said in this diff as containing a number of reasons why we may rarely want to attempt a fair use claim on an entire article (and to point out that I'd be surprised if fair-use allowed editing of the copied text). - Splash talk 15:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi all - I have now several times confronted this circumstance. An article is copyvio, the author claims permission, but I cannot contact the author via the other identical page. In several cases I could not find contact information (not even via whois). In two other cases, my email bounced. What do we do? Delete the text because we can't confirm? Assume good faith and remove copyvio? --best, kevin ··· Kzollman | Talk··· 22:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The articles that need to be wikified category is filled with copyvios (more than usual), if anyone here wants to help out. Veteran users have been adding the wikify tag even to the most obvious copyvios. Some of them even have a copyright notice at the top of the article and even more say that it was copied from a website at the bottom. Usually, half of the new articles are copyvios, more if you exclude stubs, but there's been an influx of new articles that are almost all copyrighted. That's for new articles, the category is probably less now because I have already removed hundreds of them. I found forty in one day recently while trying to wikify, so I didn't get a chance to work on wikifying. Almost every article I clicked on was a copyvio (clicking on articles I hadn't visited already). I've been working on A through C, so you probably shouldn't go looking for them there. Thanks, -- Kjkolb 22:29, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
{{ PD-IndiaGov}} claims that images published on Indian government websites are public domain. An earlier version of this template was deleted ( Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/June 2005#Template:PD-IndiaGov), because this claim was false. The current version is not a copy: it refers to the Right to Information Act, which has only come into effect recently, so the situation may have changed since June.
However, it looks to me that the RTIA is only a FOIA-type act, and does not put Indian government publications in the public domain at all. Should the template be deleted again? -- Eugene van der Pijll 15:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I emailed the government of Tamil Nadu site and asked them if their work was in PD. They replied:
Dear Sir, You can use the contents. You may kindly acknowledge the source wherever appropriate. Thanks Yours sincerely Website Administration Team http://www.tn.gov.in
Based on this information I created this template. SEBI has published its work under public domain. The UP government site says "All public domain information like official gazette notifications, acts, rules regulations, circulars, policies and programme documents would be digitised and made available for electronic access on Web." Harayana states: "The State Government Departments shall establish departmental intranets and local area networks which will lay the foundation of Centralised Data Repository of public domain information for "Anytime-Anywhere" usage." Delhi IT policy says: "Simultaneously, the government will also put on the internet information that ought to be in public domain. This will enable the citizens to play the role of a watchdog and to ensure transparency" [7]. This public domain thing was discussed between me, User:Sundar and a few others before creating it. (Another point though perhaps insignificant: Indian government sites lack a copyright notice) =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Copyright problems/Poster claims permission is frighteningly backlogged. It is tedious in the extreme to work in that part of the page as it entails doling out copy-paste emailsa after filling in copy-paste links taken from several pages. It is important, however, since we would often like to have the text that has been contributed.
In a significant number of cases, however, we are, in my opinion, unlikely to retain the text if it is taken to AfD. In several cases where I have received grants of GFDL permission, I have had very serious doubts over whether we want the text at all, or if the article we thus have is even remotely useful as a starting point. In those cases I have heavily tagged for cleanup, wikification, sourcing etc. However, I'd like to suggest that we look through that list and consider whether we should leave some of them blanked (or re-blank them) with {copyvio} but still take them to AfD to see whether we plan to retain the text before asking for permission, which we have no obligation to seek. This suggestion also arises from the point about an embarassing deletion taking place shortly after a good-faith grant of permission. So I will start doing this soon, unless I hear objections. Not for all the article in that section by any means, but those that I reckon there's a better-than-average chance we might remove if retained. At the very least, in some cases it will elicit a /Temp page rewrite which we can simply move into place.
This will sound like a potential waste of AfDs time for articles which do not get permission, but since there's already an assertion of permission, these cases should be fairly few. What do people think? - Splash talk 20:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
At Wikipedia_talk:Image_copyright_tags#Coats_of_arms, as they relate to a specific case (anon claiming copyright of some images). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Zatch Bell! characters (result of a copy and paste move from Zatch Bell! Character List) has over 200 images, mostly marked as fair use, or screen shots. Surely this goes way beyond what could be thought of as Fair Use? I tagged the page for cleanup, in October, before the C&P move. What's the best way to deal with this? -- GraemeL (talk) 19:00, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive N#Copyright_on_Lists for why I think 20+ lists stolen from other sources need to be deleted. Dragons flight 06:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
While I appreciate speedying obvious copyvios, criterion A8 strikes me as major instruction creep due to its excessive verbosity. Wouldn't it be feasible to remove one or two of the criterion lines to make the criterion simpler? R adiant _>|< 17:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi! From rummaging around I get the impression that song lyrics are clear copyright violations, but I can't find a policy or deletion page that says that explicitly. Could somebody point me in the right direction? The pages I'm looking at are
I notified one user who was actively working, but I wanted to point the authors at the clear policy statement before I put these up for AfD. Thanks, -- William Pietri 09:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. That's very helpful. The user never came back, so I have tagged them all with copyvio. -- William Pietri 22:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
All image contributions of Jbc01 ( talk · contribs) are listed here (under September's author claims permission section). This user claims to be uploading the files with permission to redistribute under the GFDL from the original company JBC Productions. These are all bondage photos, and I cannot find contact information on the first page. I realy don't want to go hunting around the site for contact information, but on the first page (don't worry this one is clean) I found this notice:
Beyond the excessive use of punctuation, this looks incompatible with the GFDL and so warrent deleting the images right? I would just go and do it, but image deletion is sketchy business. So I thought I'd get at least a little support here. --best, kevin └ KZOLLMAN/ TALK┐ 19:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Administrative, Technical Contact: , admin@aussieropeworks.com aussieropeworks P.O. Box 12143 Northbury, Nova Scotia 20388 CA 934 554 289
Calling all people knowledgeable about copyright legislation: I would like input and help on User:Lupo/Public domain. Correct me if I'm wrong, point out missing things, help improve it, tear it apart... This grew out of concerns about Image:Albert Einstein by Yousuf Karsh.jpg (see also there). Basically I think we need some clarifications put into place, especially regarding all those country-specific PD-tags: such images are not automatically also PD-US! And {{ PD}}, with its "worldwide" claim, needs to be used carefully, and we should explicitly say under what circumstances it may be used, if at all. Lupo 13:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
If I have listed an image here as fair use, and explained why, how does the appropriate admin go about confiriming or rejecting this claim, and removing the copyvio notice? I don't see anything about fair use in the advice for admins page. Thanks, Dsol 23:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello - I received permission from the website discussed above, and I thought it would be worth having a version of {{ confirmation}} for images. I have created {{ Img-confirmation}} for image description pages. I will start going through the users images later tonight. --best, kevin └ KZOLLMAN/ TALK┐ 02:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
This was posted by the artist. I was told that Artists are allowed to post their own article on Wikipedia. The other sites that may have my bios are either my own site or part of the artist organization that I am with. I am willing to rewrite it for Wiki, if needed.
I know company logos are generally OK for use in WP, but, if I have understood things correctly, product "logos" such as the one used in the Athlon 64 microprocessor article generally aren't OK. As regards said logo, AMD's copyright notice states that
This means that the logo should be speedily deleted as per Template:NoncommercialProvided, because of the above "non-commercial purposes [...] only" clause, right? I just want to be 100% sure, so I won't risk deleting stuff which should/could be kept. -- Wernher 06:00, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
What is the best procedure if the original contributor removes the copyvio tag and replaces the copyvio content? Kappa 01:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The instructions say to add {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~ to the page being considered as copyvio. Is the ~~~~ correct? Do we really want to sign the article? RJFJR 23:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm unsure how to tag this image. It was originally posted with a copyright notice in Italian, for which I've located an English translation and added to the page. This, unfortunately, is the only evidence there is of a copyvio and indeed the only source information: I can't seem to locate the original on the Vatican website. Should I tag it with {{imagevio}} anyway even though I can't provide the original as expected? Or is there a different way this should be handled? TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
The article Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose appears to infringe on the copyright of http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=1642 but I can’t put a link in when I try to put a violation notice on it. Susvolans ⇔ 15:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
The instructions for dealing with copyright violations say: If all revisions have copyright problems: Blank the page and replace the text with {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~ .
What I don't understand is why it is considered desirable to have the signature of the person who found the copyright violation on the main article page right below the copyvio template. If someone wants to know who it was who said the article was a copyvio, they can look at the page history as with any other edit (or for that matter, look at WP:CP, where signing copyvio nominations looks more appropriate). -- Metropolitan90 04:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a friendlier (and perhaps longer) version of template {{nothanks}}>? Something suitable for new contributors who don't know better yet. RJFJR 17:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi all. This article copied the text from this forum post. I was wondering if this violates copyright policy. Thanks. - Akamad Merry Christmas to all! 13:30, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
(This content copied from Wikipedia: Village pump (proposals) for additional feedback here)
This isn't so much a proposal as a problem that I'm not sure how to solve. I recently hit the random article link, and up came Manas Journal. At first it didn't look like a copyvio to me because of the links. Looking at the history made me suspicious, and I did a Google search, and sure enough it was an egregious copyvio.
I marked it with the usual template and went to inform the user and found they'd already received a warning about another article. My natural response was to check their user contributions. My sad discovery was that they had added copyrighted material to all of the following articles, most of which he created, most of them over 90 days ago:
I templated them all and added them to Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2005_December_27 (except one, which he simply added material to; I removed it and left a notice on the talk page). Needless to say, this sets a worrisome precedent: in all this time, only one of the user's many copyvio pages was caught, and no action was ever taken against them - they went on creating these things for weeks. I think the user's tendency to add links disguised their origin.
So my question: how do we prevent this kind of thing from happening again? How do we detect and stop habitual copyright violators? Deco 09:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Jimbo has given the OK to block perpetual copyright violators, see this therad, if you need an admin to block a user just leave me a message on my talk page and I'll check the history and block.-- nixie 18:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
There is a question on Image talk:MoriaSmall.JPG about applicable copyright law/policy in regards to derivative works. It primarily focuses on whether a user created computer-graphic image derived from a line drawing infringes the copyright of the original work, but also draws into question whether maps of fictional locations, similarly derived from a published original, are allowed. See the linked talk page. Any guidance on legal/Wiki precedent would be appreciated. -- CBD ☎ ✉ 18:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Apologies if this is the wrong place, but I can't find a better one. I've added one music track (and intend if possible to add more) which was released in Russia before 1973, and which I therefore take not to be protected by copyright (the one I've added is Image:1947_-_Piano_Trio_No._2.ogg (this particular one was actually recorded in Prague, but I could find ones which were definitely recorded in Russia if necessary). However, the CD I took it from claims "the copyright in these sound recordings is owned by and exclusively licenced from" Ostankino. Are they bluffing? Mark 1 13:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone asked me for an opinion on Audio artist (and related articles submitted by Special:Contributions/128.237.11.72). They've been worked on, I'm not sure if they are now CopyViolations. Could someone give me a second opinion? RJFJR 19:23, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I just noticed on the George W. Bush page that Image:Lincoln18.jpg (sorry, I don't know how to link to it without making the entire image appear on this page) is listed as a candidate for speedy deletion on January 6th. However, I have searched and searched and cannot find where this was at all discussed or even nominated for deletion. I looked where I thought the nomination would have been listed, but it's not there. Can someone tell me where the original complaint was posted, and where I would post an objection if I were to be able to establish that the image was usable? (I don't intend to start an argument about this particular matter; I'm just trying to learn where things are for future reference.) Thanks... -- Aaron 23:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I have a followup question to the "Why sign the template?" discussion above: Why do the instructions tell editors to sign the first template (the one posted to the article itself or the image description page) and the second template (the one posted on the "Today's Section" page) but not the third template (the one posted to the article creator/image uploader's talk page)? I just had someone freak out and launch a pissy personal attack on me on both his and my talk pages, because I didn't sign the templates I put on his page (he uploaded two copyvio images at the same time, so I posted two copies of the template, one for each image).
There is definitely confusion on this issue, as any random check of a few copyvio reports will show that at least half of copyvio editors do not sign the templates they post to user talk pages. And when I brought up this issue on #Wikipedia, the consensus was pretty much unanimous that editors should sign these templates even though the instructions do not explicitly say to do so.
So we have what I hope we can all agree is a confusing set of instructions, and I personally think that any change which will greatly reduce the chances of future arguments between editors is a good thing. Given that, I ask if there would there be any objection to me editing the instructions to include the ~~~~ on the user talk page templates (and making a few minor formatting changes so that the user talk template instructions match the other template instructions design-wise), so that the table will appear as follows:
Article? | Image? |
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The only differences here from the version currently on the page are:
Any objections? Aaron 03:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
http://www.tvave.com/CartoonNetwork-O/Oh_My_Goddess.php
Is my analysis incorrect? This is for a much earlier version of Oh My Goddess! ( something like this) -- Cool Cat Talk| @ 09:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
This page appears to be trying to serve two purposes.
I suggest we'd do better with two separate pages? Regards, Ben Aveling 12:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The current instructions seem to be giving people the impression that everything can be speedy deleted, whether or not its from a commercial content provider or there is chance of permission. For example, an article about
John Kay (economist) using material from
http://www.johnkay.com/ and I believe the user name was
User:John Kay or something like that. This seems like a perfect example where we should wait and give the contributor a chance to give permission to use the material, but nonetheless it was speedy deleted. If all new copyvio is to be speedily deleted the instructions need to be updated to reflect that. If not, we need to clarify them.
Kappa 16:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
As you can see the backlog here is shocking. This page is inneffective, as is the current process, and I'm going to continue to nuke obvious candidates that I come accross. IAR. -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
It has ocured to me that there is some "redundancy" in places one can list a image with a problematic license. WP:IFD, WP:PUI and WP:CP all accept images with unclear/missing/false/disputed copyright status to be listed for deletion/clearification and while the processes have somewhat different focus the same results are usualy achieved, and it often seems to be down to personal preference wich process you choose to deal with a questionable image. Do we need some clearifications in this area or is it working well enough to not be worth tampering with? Just curious, personaly I work mostly with the completely untagged images wich are speedy deletion candidates, but once in a while I come across images with blatantly wrong license info (such as game consept art labeled as PD or GFDL and what not) and become unsure just where to list them, or wether or not I should just slap the "no license" tag on them and let them be speedied if the uploader does not react after being notified. -- Sherool (talk) 18:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The following posts belong here, not in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fair use, which discusses future wikipedia fair use policy. Travb 16:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone want to have a look at Image talk:SaddamBaghdadwalkabout.jpg? I can't for the life of me see what to do to tag it more appropriately, and the fair use justification seems solid, but it seems to be marked for deletion
By the way, is there some different place than here that I should raise a question like this? -- Jmabel | Talk 04:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
We discussed this before, and it was pretty agreed that the use of the SEPTA logo in {{ SEPTA}} is OK. Zzyzx11 recently removed it, citing the fair use policy. Can we get a policy change on this? Something like "the logo of an organization is allowed on a navigational template for articles closely related to that organization"? -- SPUI ( talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 21:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I have created {{ Vector-Images.com}}, which is based on the Commons template by the same name. I also pasted a link to the terms of service agreement that the Vector-Images.com people told us that we can use their images under, so we might have a possibility of having less fair use images to deal with due to this. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 08:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
There are various FU violations to be seen at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Football-- Doc ask? 02:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Should the promo tags explicitly ask the uploader to add a source? As far as fair use goes the source - in so far as it could help establish the ownership of an image - should probably be provided.-- nixie 02:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I've got a list of unusual .ogg files at User:Carnildo/Unusual Files. The unusually large ones may contain a number of full album tracks or excessively large samples, while the small ones probably include many non-ogg files that have been renamed. There's about 750 files in total; could someone help me in checking them out? -- Carnildo 02:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
When uploading an image from source deemed to be an Original Video Animation, should we use the tv-screenshot templete or the film-screenshot templete, or does it matter? TomStar81 23:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
How much of what is on b:Pokémon Trading Card Game/Fossil can be used. I want to list every Pokémon Card and its text, so how much can be used? Gerard Foley 16:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I've listed a bunch of Canadian Crown Copyright tags on tfd, since they are badly written and not being used as intended, more input on the discussion would be appreciated at {{ CanadaCopyright}} and others.-- nixie 22:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Image:Dylan jams with campbell.jpg has turned into a contentious matter. It was recently deleted for lacking copyright information, and has been re-uploaded by JDG ( talk · contribs). Since I have been involved in the whole thing, I would appreciate it if some other admin would review the conversation at Image talk:Dylan jams with campbell.jpg and either find some way to justify this screen-capture of a bootleg video as fair use after coaxing the authorship info out of the user, or, failing that, delete the image again and caution the user about image use. Thanks. Jkelly 22:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Consider Yoda. It has several screenshots of Yoda from the various Star Wars movies. I'm new to this game, but from what I'm reading here (and elsewhere), it seems that the claim of fair use on the screenshots would only apply to their usage in articles about the movies themselves, rather than articles about the characters.
Is this true? If so, then lots and lots of movie character pages need revision, I think. Would it be enough to indicate the name (and version, in the case of Starwars grr) of the film in a caption to each image? Some captions on Yoda do that, but not all (3 out of 8).
Or am I being too restrictive? Staecker 00:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I've spotted a couple pages (namely Auditorium Building, Chicago and Gage Building) that make extensive use of imagery from Mary Ann Sullivan's Digital Imaging Project. At the bottom of her image galleries she notes "Please feel free to use them for personal or educational purposes." and "They are not available for commercial purposes without my explicit permission." Am I correct in thinking these fall under the same umbrella as Creative Commons NonCommercial images and need to be deleted? - EurekaLott 03:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
This is regarding the article Five O'clock Dog - a new user keeps adding the message Five O'clock Dog® is a registered trademark. to the article, and I don't think it should be there. If there are questions over the use of this name in Wikipedia then tbh the article shouldn't be there at all. I think it takes away from the encyclopedic-ness of the article to have the message there - what do other people think? -- Francs 2000 10:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
On article IMac, user:Schwarzm claimed the promophoto of an IMac Image:IMacIntel.jpg to be fair use, after I had removed it once [8]. Commonts? / Fred- Chess 03:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I am not quite sure what to do with the page 满汉全席. The Chinese text on the page appears clearly copyrighted (it says "中国中央电视台版权所有", which means "Chinese Central Television, all rights reserved" on the source page) but the submitter since translated it and claims his actions to be fair use, see User talk:Shaoquan. As I don't really know copyright law very well, I wanted to ask for advice here before I put the ugly {{ copyvio}} notice on the page, in order to avoid to bite this newcomer. Help would be greatly appreciated, either here, at User talk:Shaoquan or on my talk page. Kusma (討論) 01:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Case in point Cal Schenkel, the source it was copied from is actualy the Cal Schenkel] article at another Wiki wich also use the GFDL license. So no problem right? However then I started thinking; GFDL require the original editors to be atributed, so how do I do that for an external source? Is it enough to point to the external source where people can just click the "history" link themselves, or do I have to list the editors of the original article, or even copy the entire edit history (like when you move a image to commons), and how to do that for an article without making it "ugly". -- Sherool (talk) 16:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
This article appears to be a copyvio of various parts of dances.mayukhi.com. Either that, or the website is using WP's material and claiming copyright over it. Can an expert please take a look? Kappa 12:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
A number of images have been added from the online edition of Gray's anatomy. (E.g. Gray347.png) (In fact, they've been added to Wikimedia commons, but I don't know where to register my concern there.) The images have been marked as "public domain". However, while the books themselves from which the images are take are no doubt public domain, the images are almost certainly taken from the online edition at http://www.bartleby.com/107/
Are these images really public domain? If a contributor took the time to scan the images themselves, then I can see that the images would be fine. However, since it's bartleby.com who have done the scanning, are we really allowed to nick their images? (Worse than that, the Talk:Gray's Anatomy suggests that we've also taken some text from the website, which is no doubt from their OCR software.
I've no experience about US copyright law, but in the UK there's something called "mechanical copyright", which refers to the copyright in the representation of the images. (Ie even if the images themselves are out of copyright, specific scans of the images might still be copyrighted. I'd appreciate it if one of the more experienced people check over the situation. Bluap 13:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
(I also posted this under the technical section at village pump.) The instructions at WP:CP currently state that {{ article-cv}} should be used to list images on that page. However, if one follows this, the entire image is displayed because it isn't prefixed with a colon ( : ). Is there another template that should be used for images? There is no {{ image-cv}}. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
This category is just brimming with "copyvios". I've been spending the last few days just going over the most "suspicoius" looking images there and I've retagged like a 1000 obvius fair use images that where hiding in there. I'm talking albumcovers, tv and movie screenshots, logos and such and a huge number of promo pictures. Not to mention the tonnes of images that have no source, just a tag that says the the copyright holder allow anyone to use it for anyting or some such, not a word on why. Now a few of those are "legit" uploaded by the photogapher without as much as a "I made this" in the summary, but many, if not most are lifted from somewhere else. It seems people are reading the tag selectively and because there is "copyrighted" in the tag name people just dump copyrighted stuff in there without reading the actual text of the license. I've seen things like "This image is owned by so and so, allowed for non-commercial purposes only all rights reserved", followed by the "The copyright holder have released all rights to this work and allow it to be used for any purpose bla bla bla" license tag. It's kinda depressing. That's on top of the regular "well there is no copyright notice on the site so it's public domain" kind of misunderstandings. Anyway I've come to the conclution that I'm not even scratching the surface of this one on my own so a few more eyeballs on this category would be nice. It's long overdue for some serious "spring cleaning" IMHO. -- Sherool (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Recently, a good article was incorrectly flagged as a copyvio, and subsequently deleted. After some time and a series of misunderstandings, it was reinstated. However, it could have easily been avoided by simply contacting the article's creator so that the copyvio notice was actually noticed! In this article's case, the original text of the article contained the alleged copyvio, and the creator of the article was still an active contributor. However, the copyvio notice wasn't noticed, so went unchallenged. May I propose that when a copyvio notice is placed on a page, the original creator of the article is contacted as well, as a matter of course. Then there is no possibility of the process going unnoticed. (It's all too easy to miss something with several thousand articles on a watchlist).
In addition, for a non-admin, it was impossible to correctly recreate the "crumb trail" of activity that led to the article's deletion, since the article history was also deleted, and the deletion log only contained the barest summary. It is this that led to some unnecessary misunderstanding. I'm not sure what should be done about this, but a way to have a more complete picture of the deletion process after the event could be very useful in avoiding a repeat of this. Graham 03:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a question as a new admin trying to make some headway on this page. If I move a /Temp page to replace a copyvio, is it considered acceptable (if not totally in strict compliance with WP:CSD#R) to delete the redirect? I can't see why not (no one would ever stumble on those pages), but if anyone objects at all, I won't do it. Superm401 - Talk 01:21, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Folks, what is the policy or guideline on articles that have been copied from a website by the author of that website?? In particular, check out Laguna Catemaco and this site. The editor, DonGringo, has copied quite a few of his webpages into Wikipedia (they are not quite written in encyclopedic style, but that's another question). Madman 19:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Is there any compelling reason for me to not simply delete the offending edits at Hannah Teter? Given that a number of editors are removing the copyvio notice from a high-profile article in order to create a real article, it would be less of a pain to simply let people go ahead and work rather than having to monitor the thing to ensure that the copyvio tag remains. Thoughts? Jkelly 21:51, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
YES. God just let anyone do it. Why does it have to be so heirarchical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivymike21 ( talk • contribs)
Yes, this is one of the problems with wikipedia. As it has gotten bogged down in structure and heirarchy and policies, it isn't able to change and adapt as fast as it once could. Hannah Teter is a current event, she won a gold medal YESTERDAY (13/02/06) and her page right now is a tiny stub marred with a huge copyright notice. Wait a week to change that, and she'll be yesterday's news. This signed contribution was the work of IvyMike21, bub.
Is there a reason why Feb 16 is excluded from this combined page? The JPS 02:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
For a very long time, I've been told to put all copyvios here, rather than revert to the previous version in history (when one exists) because we want to remove it from the history, right? So now I come here to report Band-e Amir and the box on WP:CP says, hey, just revert! Ignore the history! Will someone please tell me what we're supposed to do? -- Golbez 04:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm uncertain whether List of NP-complete problems is a copyright violation or not. Most of the problems are listed in exactly the same categories and in the same order as in the famous book Computers and Intractability; I have personally verified this. Since copyright has been shown to protect the organization of a collection of facts, even if the facts themselves cannot be protected, would it stand to reason that this is copyright violation?
If so, what's the appropriate way to clean it up? Turn it into a "naked" list of problems in random order and wait for it to be recategorised in some other way? Thanks for any input. Deco 23:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I have an idea for dealing with these. See Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems/Without online source, and let me know what you think. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 14:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
It looks like we have a situation now that's not addressed by Wikipedia's current copyright problems policy.
On 12 February, the Robert Hoyzer article was listed as a copyvio because it matched an article in The Peninsula, a newspaper in Qatar, on 26 December 2005.
Only one problem... The Peninsula violated Wikipedia's copyright, not the other way around. The Peninsula story virtually matches Wikipedia's version of the Hoyzer article as it existed on 26 December. The Hoyzer article has existed as a non-stub since 27 January 2005. Matter of fact, I recognized several of my own edits to the Wikipedia article in the Peninsula piece.
The problem this scenario brings up: Why is there not a speedy process for resolving a false copyvio when it's clear that Wikipedia's copyright was violated? — Dale Arnett 02:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I saw this article - Luton Riots. The entire article is a copy from here. But I did not tag it for sppedy deletion because it says that the site from which the copy is done should have intention of making profit. This url has a .org suffix, which means that it must not be making profit from it, nor is it a commercial site. So what would be the appropriate way to tag it? Or is it not a copyright problem at all? - Aksi great 13:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wonder why there are still very old cases that have not been cleared.-- Jusjih 09:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
copyright/fair use or not:
-- geekyßroad . meow? 06:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Is public domain text copied wholesale from other sources like Bion 8 acceptable for wikipedia? It seems a bit wrong to me, as we then license the text under a more restrictive license withpout having put any creative effort in to it. -- Martyman- (talk) 09:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I tagged the biography section of Beverley Knight because it admitted it was cut and paste from her official web site. Later the same day an anon IP with only 1 edit removed the copyvio tag and left it blank. Curiously, all the content on the page came from a series of other anon IPs who only edit Beverley Knight and her music. So this may be the original author, or it may be something else. Should I restore the tag as vandalism? Thatcher131 00:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I've archived the previous discussions after 3 days of inactivity. Please feel free to reinstate any threads if necessary. -- HappyCamper 15:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
I found this item while looking around on Google. I think it might be useful re: copyvio stuff. Here is an excerpt:
What's the "Usage Rights" advanced search feature?
Our "Usage Rights" feature helps you find published content -- including music, photos, movies, books, and educational materials -- that you can share or modify above and beyond fair use.
Sct72 02:29, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I have a suspicion that the last two sections of this article are from some sort of copyrighted material for the following reasons:
I'm certain that the first two paragraphs, as well as the image, are fine, which is why I didn't place a copyvio tag on the article. That, and I don't have solid proof that it is indeed a copyright violation, only a strong suspicion.
- Nameneko 07:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This page is an absolute mess. I appreciate there's an enormous backlog, but this rather disorganised and confused layout will not facilitate cleaning that up. I was going to do some heavy refactoring on the page, then I realised that there are at least two - and possibly more - bots running maintenance on this page, so I'm loathe to go changing it.
What I would like to see is a clear, linear procedure set out for dealing with copyright infringement; putting newer discussion at the top, and older discussion (which administrators need to clean up) at the bottom of the page. Clear instructions for dealing with copyright infringement ought to be at the top, and we should direct users to the other avenues for deletion, such as the new speedy criteria for blatant infringement. In addition, it might be an excellent idea to have a notice directing content owners to the page for requests for immediate takedown, as they might stumble upon this page.
Thoughts and comments welcome. We've got to do something about this. Rob Church Talk | FAD 08:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
This has been discussed here, but there was no conclusion or consensus. "Commercial content provider" is being interpreted in two very different ways. Some are including commercial sites of any kind and others think that it is only for sites that are selling the content itself. I'd prefer the former (plus non-commercial sites when permission is not asserted), but I think the latter is what people agreed to. -- Kjkolb 08:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
It was clear in the discussions that framed this CSD that by "commercial content provider" was meant soemone directly making money off the content. had we thoguh people could have mis--read this as "commercial site" the wording would have been made more explicit. The reason was simple. That was the only class of site where it was thought 100% certian that a GFDL release would never be given. If any other class of site is similarly assured, please suggest a change of wording on Wikipedia Talk:Criteria for speedy deletion or the current thread on this on the village pump (Policy) at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#New CSD for blatent copyvios issues ( archived discussion). DES (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm planning to start a Counter Copyvio Unit as I'm involved in keeping copyrighted materials away from Wikipedia. Any thoughts or suggestions on this. I may or maynot be a member myself (I hate memberships) but I think someone like me who finds that blatant copyvios are emanating from one anon user or in an article for a time period would make use of the unit to do the job. Many might find the violations but might not have time immediately to curb/report it and in the meanwhile other editors might edit it making it a waste of energy for the genuine contributors. Thus the idea. I've posted a similar message on the Counter Vandalism Unit talk page. Tx Idleguy 11:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
The instructions on Wikipedia:Copyright problems for using the {{copyvio}} tag are inappropriate, as they presuppose that all copyright violations are taken from Internet resources. That is, the instructions "Blank the page and replace the text with {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~" are impossible to follow if the copying has been done from a book, print magazine, or other offline source. Could someone familiar with the copyvio process please amend these instructions to cover such cases? Psychonaut 06:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi all - I'm interested in helping out with the backlog here. I've run across the same thing twice now, and I'm not sure what to do about it. In some cases, people will simply remove the copyvio tag and write a new (non-copyvio) version of the article. This leaves the copyvio in the history. I know that in the instructions you suggest deleting new versions of the article that are copyvio when restoring it to the old version. But this is a sightly different case. Should we delete the old versions of the article when the current one is not copyvio too? --best, kevin ··· Kzollman | Talk··· 15:28, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I dont know much about wikipedia, but did this statment, added on go through much debate:
This statment completly ignores fair use, which is a legal use of copyright.
Date the stament was added: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&oldid=23313193
Old Statment/layout: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&oldid=23312172
Comparisons between the two: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Copyright_problems&diff=23313193&oldid=23312172 Travb 01:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Could someone explain the process that goes on here more clearly? I've marked a lot of copyvios, but I still don't quite understand what happens next. I guess the first step after listing would be to determine if it is really a copyright violation. If it is, is it just left on the page until seven days have passed, unless someone bothers to provide evidence that it isn't or gets permission? If that's the case, then why is there a backlog? Does the deleting administrator try to get permission if nobody else has tried or is that left to the uploader and other users? Do you try to get permission for bad articles?
Also, if a copyvio is identified after a terrible article has been put on Articles for Deletion, should the voting stop, especially in those cases where there's a good chance the author will give permission for it to be used? Thanks -- Kjkolb 10:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Could regulars please comment on Royal Gibraltar Police? There is a dispute - and general antipathy - between two editors ( Gibraltarian ( talk · contribs) and Ecemaml ( talk · contribs)) there over an alleged copyright violation. It would best be resolved quickly to prevent the dispute escalating. It appears to me to be copy-vio, and the article was once speedily deleted as such, but I would like others more knowledgeable in copyright laws to comment. -- Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:04, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
The article Michael Bell appears to be a straight cut-and-paste, of an IMDB page, complete with its headers:
Is this considered a copyright violation, or just extreme laziness? -- Calton | Talk 05:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Wales, I am a newbie to wikipedia, just about a month. I want to thank you so much for your invention.
I have spend days trying to figure out the official policy of wikipedia on "fair use" of text.
I am interested in what the policy is on "Fair use Text"--there has been a lot of arguments about fair use of images, but I can't find your/wikipedia's stand exactly on text. The Wikipedia:Copyright problems page as it is currently written is very anti-fair use.
On 29 September 2005 Mwanner had added a Copyright sentence which still stands, that stated in bold type:
(I originally incorrectly said Splash was the author,not Mwanner. For this I apologize)
To my knowledge (and I may be wrong), before this sentence was posted, no lawyer was consulted, no study of previous Case law precedence on free use and copyright was studied, and even at a minimum, there wasn't even any wikipublic debate about this sentence and its ramifications for wikipedia. This sentence, and much of wikipedia information on copyright violations ignores fair use.
I think that many wikipedia administrators and many wikipedia posters have forgotten the true goal and spirit of wikipedia. That they are destroying information and are destroying the spirit and intention of wikipedia to create "the largest encyclopedia in history".
If I cut and pasted a 300 word copyrighted article, would this be a violation of fair use?
If I put a footnote refering to the article as a source, would this be fair use?
What if I posted this warning on the bottom?
A warning similar to what is found on tens of thousands of pages on the internet:
This article is copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Travb (or we) is/are making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding of the ***. Travb (or we) believe(s) this constitutes a ' fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
I attempted this on five pages posted as copyright violations, and my changes were quickly reverted and the copyright page was quickly returned. [5]
Right now, the volunteer copyright police are incredibly agressive, they slap up a copyright violation notice, then ask questions later. There is:
The way that wikipedia is set up now, it appears like there is a small group of volunteer copyright police who erase text with impunity.
How does this further the vision of "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge" in your own words?
Isn't this a direct contradiction?
Wouldn't it be better to have those people whose text is copyrighted and posted on wikipedia ask the administrators to erase the copyright material? In otherwords, put the burden of copyright policing on those who have the copyrighted material?
How can I get a clear explanation of wikipedia's policy?
The more I read on fair use of text on wikipedia, the more I get confused, and I am a second year law student: used to reading complex ideas and text. My evidence and civil procedure classes are easier to comprehend than this confusing mess. If I am confused, how can the average person, who doesnt read law school text make sense of fair use policy?-- Travb 02:27, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
All edits are released under the GFDL (see WP:Copyrights). [...] Only public domain resources can be copied exactly—this does not include most web pages."
OK. Having thought about this for a while, and having read up a bit on fair use, I propose to re-add the offending sentence, ammended as follows:
I realize that this is a considerably stricter standard than one finds in university course pack guidelines. This is because Wikipedia is published to a much wider audience, and our material must be useable by commercial mirror sites. See Wikipedia:Fair use and [6].
I would welcome any comments. Please bear in mind, though, that the purpose of this statement is to express the heart of the matter in a few words so that people might actually read them. A major failing of Wikipedia policy statements is that it's hard to get through them without the eyes glazing over. Most people who turn to policy statements are trying to get something else done, not become experts in tort law.
-- Mwanner | Talk 12:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree that we are unlikely to have a fair use claim on entire articles, although I am neither American nor a lawyer. I would also like to repeat what I said in this diff as containing a number of reasons why we may rarely want to attempt a fair use claim on an entire article (and to point out that I'd be surprised if fair-use allowed editing of the copied text). - Splash talk 15:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi all - I have now several times confronted this circumstance. An article is copyvio, the author claims permission, but I cannot contact the author via the other identical page. In several cases I could not find contact information (not even via whois). In two other cases, my email bounced. What do we do? Delete the text because we can't confirm? Assume good faith and remove copyvio? --best, kevin ··· Kzollman | Talk··· 22:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The articles that need to be wikified category is filled with copyvios (more than usual), if anyone here wants to help out. Veteran users have been adding the wikify tag even to the most obvious copyvios. Some of them even have a copyright notice at the top of the article and even more say that it was copied from a website at the bottom. Usually, half of the new articles are copyvios, more if you exclude stubs, but there's been an influx of new articles that are almost all copyrighted. That's for new articles, the category is probably less now because I have already removed hundreds of them. I found forty in one day recently while trying to wikify, so I didn't get a chance to work on wikifying. Almost every article I clicked on was a copyvio (clicking on articles I hadn't visited already). I've been working on A through C, so you probably shouldn't go looking for them there. Thanks, -- Kjkolb 22:29, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
{{ PD-IndiaGov}} claims that images published on Indian government websites are public domain. An earlier version of this template was deleted ( Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/June 2005#Template:PD-IndiaGov), because this claim was false. The current version is not a copy: it refers to the Right to Information Act, which has only come into effect recently, so the situation may have changed since June.
However, it looks to me that the RTIA is only a FOIA-type act, and does not put Indian government publications in the public domain at all. Should the template be deleted again? -- Eugene van der Pijll 15:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I emailed the government of Tamil Nadu site and asked them if their work was in PD. They replied:
Dear Sir, You can use the contents. You may kindly acknowledge the source wherever appropriate. Thanks Yours sincerely Website Administration Team http://www.tn.gov.in
Based on this information I created this template. SEBI has published its work under public domain. The UP government site says "All public domain information like official gazette notifications, acts, rules regulations, circulars, policies and programme documents would be digitised and made available for electronic access on Web." Harayana states: "The State Government Departments shall establish departmental intranets and local area networks which will lay the foundation of Centralised Data Repository of public domain information for "Anytime-Anywhere" usage." Delhi IT policy says: "Simultaneously, the government will also put on the internet information that ought to be in public domain. This will enable the citizens to play the role of a watchdog and to ensure transparency" [7]. This public domain thing was discussed between me, User:Sundar and a few others before creating it. (Another point though perhaps insignificant: Indian government sites lack a copyright notice) =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Copyright problems/Poster claims permission is frighteningly backlogged. It is tedious in the extreme to work in that part of the page as it entails doling out copy-paste emailsa after filling in copy-paste links taken from several pages. It is important, however, since we would often like to have the text that has been contributed.
In a significant number of cases, however, we are, in my opinion, unlikely to retain the text if it is taken to AfD. In several cases where I have received grants of GFDL permission, I have had very serious doubts over whether we want the text at all, or if the article we thus have is even remotely useful as a starting point. In those cases I have heavily tagged for cleanup, wikification, sourcing etc. However, I'd like to suggest that we look through that list and consider whether we should leave some of them blanked (or re-blank them) with {copyvio} but still take them to AfD to see whether we plan to retain the text before asking for permission, which we have no obligation to seek. This suggestion also arises from the point about an embarassing deletion taking place shortly after a good-faith grant of permission. So I will start doing this soon, unless I hear objections. Not for all the article in that section by any means, but those that I reckon there's a better-than-average chance we might remove if retained. At the very least, in some cases it will elicit a /Temp page rewrite which we can simply move into place.
This will sound like a potential waste of AfDs time for articles which do not get permission, but since there's already an assertion of permission, these cases should be fairly few. What do people think? - Splash talk 20:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
At Wikipedia_talk:Image_copyright_tags#Coats_of_arms, as they relate to a specific case (anon claiming copyright of some images). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Zatch Bell! characters (result of a copy and paste move from Zatch Bell! Character List) has over 200 images, mostly marked as fair use, or screen shots. Surely this goes way beyond what could be thought of as Fair Use? I tagged the page for cleanup, in October, before the C&P move. What's the best way to deal with this? -- GraemeL (talk) 19:00, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive N#Copyright_on_Lists for why I think 20+ lists stolen from other sources need to be deleted. Dragons flight 06:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
While I appreciate speedying obvious copyvios, criterion A8 strikes me as major instruction creep due to its excessive verbosity. Wouldn't it be feasible to remove one or two of the criterion lines to make the criterion simpler? R adiant _>|< 17:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi! From rummaging around I get the impression that song lyrics are clear copyright violations, but I can't find a policy or deletion page that says that explicitly. Could somebody point me in the right direction? The pages I'm looking at are
I notified one user who was actively working, but I wanted to point the authors at the clear policy statement before I put these up for AfD. Thanks, -- William Pietri 09:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. That's very helpful. The user never came back, so I have tagged them all with copyvio. -- William Pietri 22:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
All image contributions of Jbc01 ( talk · contribs) are listed here (under September's author claims permission section). This user claims to be uploading the files with permission to redistribute under the GFDL from the original company JBC Productions. These are all bondage photos, and I cannot find contact information on the first page. I realy don't want to go hunting around the site for contact information, but on the first page (don't worry this one is clean) I found this notice:
Beyond the excessive use of punctuation, this looks incompatible with the GFDL and so warrent deleting the images right? I would just go and do it, but image deletion is sketchy business. So I thought I'd get at least a little support here. --best, kevin └ KZOLLMAN/ TALK┐ 19:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Administrative, Technical Contact: , admin@aussieropeworks.com aussieropeworks P.O. Box 12143 Northbury, Nova Scotia 20388 CA 934 554 289
Calling all people knowledgeable about copyright legislation: I would like input and help on User:Lupo/Public domain. Correct me if I'm wrong, point out missing things, help improve it, tear it apart... This grew out of concerns about Image:Albert Einstein by Yousuf Karsh.jpg (see also there). Basically I think we need some clarifications put into place, especially regarding all those country-specific PD-tags: such images are not automatically also PD-US! And {{ PD}}, with its "worldwide" claim, needs to be used carefully, and we should explicitly say under what circumstances it may be used, if at all. Lupo 13:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
If I have listed an image here as fair use, and explained why, how does the appropriate admin go about confiriming or rejecting this claim, and removing the copyvio notice? I don't see anything about fair use in the advice for admins page. Thanks, Dsol 23:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello - I received permission from the website discussed above, and I thought it would be worth having a version of {{ confirmation}} for images. I have created {{ Img-confirmation}} for image description pages. I will start going through the users images later tonight. --best, kevin └ KZOLLMAN/ TALK┐ 02:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
This was posted by the artist. I was told that Artists are allowed to post their own article on Wikipedia. The other sites that may have my bios are either my own site or part of the artist organization that I am with. I am willing to rewrite it for Wiki, if needed.
I know company logos are generally OK for use in WP, but, if I have understood things correctly, product "logos" such as the one used in the Athlon 64 microprocessor article generally aren't OK. As regards said logo, AMD's copyright notice states that
This means that the logo should be speedily deleted as per Template:NoncommercialProvided, because of the above "non-commercial purposes [...] only" clause, right? I just want to be 100% sure, so I won't risk deleting stuff which should/could be kept. -- Wernher 06:00, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
What is the best procedure if the original contributor removes the copyvio tag and replaces the copyvio content? Kappa 01:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The instructions say to add {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~ to the page being considered as copyvio. Is the ~~~~ correct? Do we really want to sign the article? RJFJR 23:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm unsure how to tag this image. It was originally posted with a copyright notice in Italian, for which I've located an English translation and added to the page. This, unfortunately, is the only evidence there is of a copyvio and indeed the only source information: I can't seem to locate the original on the Vatican website. Should I tag it with {{imagevio}} anyway even though I can't provide the original as expected? Or is there a different way this should be handled? TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
The article Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose appears to infringe on the copyright of http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=1642 but I can’t put a link in when I try to put a violation notice on it. Susvolans ⇔ 15:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
The instructions for dealing with copyright violations say: If all revisions have copyright problems: Blank the page and replace the text with {{copyvio|url=insert URL here}} ~~~~ .
What I don't understand is why it is considered desirable to have the signature of the person who found the copyright violation on the main article page right below the copyvio template. If someone wants to know who it was who said the article was a copyvio, they can look at the page history as with any other edit (or for that matter, look at WP:CP, where signing copyvio nominations looks more appropriate). -- Metropolitan90 04:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a friendlier (and perhaps longer) version of template {{nothanks}}>? Something suitable for new contributors who don't know better yet. RJFJR 17:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi all. This article copied the text from this forum post. I was wondering if this violates copyright policy. Thanks. - Akamad Merry Christmas to all! 13:30, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
(This content copied from Wikipedia: Village pump (proposals) for additional feedback here)
This isn't so much a proposal as a problem that I'm not sure how to solve. I recently hit the random article link, and up came Manas Journal. At first it didn't look like a copyvio to me because of the links. Looking at the history made me suspicious, and I did a Google search, and sure enough it was an egregious copyvio.
I marked it with the usual template and went to inform the user and found they'd already received a warning about another article. My natural response was to check their user contributions. My sad discovery was that they had added copyrighted material to all of the following articles, most of which he created, most of them over 90 days ago:
I templated them all and added them to Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2005_December_27 (except one, which he simply added material to; I removed it and left a notice on the talk page). Needless to say, this sets a worrisome precedent: in all this time, only one of the user's many copyvio pages was caught, and no action was ever taken against them - they went on creating these things for weeks. I think the user's tendency to add links disguised their origin.
So my question: how do we prevent this kind of thing from happening again? How do we detect and stop habitual copyright violators? Deco 09:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Jimbo has given the OK to block perpetual copyright violators, see this therad, if you need an admin to block a user just leave me a message on my talk page and I'll check the history and block.-- nixie 18:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
There is a question on Image talk:MoriaSmall.JPG about applicable copyright law/policy in regards to derivative works. It primarily focuses on whether a user created computer-graphic image derived from a line drawing infringes the copyright of the original work, but also draws into question whether maps of fictional locations, similarly derived from a published original, are allowed. See the linked talk page. Any guidance on legal/Wiki precedent would be appreciated. -- CBD ☎ ✉ 18:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Apologies if this is the wrong place, but I can't find a better one. I've added one music track (and intend if possible to add more) which was released in Russia before 1973, and which I therefore take not to be protected by copyright (the one I've added is Image:1947_-_Piano_Trio_No._2.ogg (this particular one was actually recorded in Prague, but I could find ones which were definitely recorded in Russia if necessary). However, the CD I took it from claims "the copyright in these sound recordings is owned by and exclusively licenced from" Ostankino. Are they bluffing? Mark 1 13:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone asked me for an opinion on Audio artist (and related articles submitted by Special:Contributions/128.237.11.72). They've been worked on, I'm not sure if they are now CopyViolations. Could someone give me a second opinion? RJFJR 19:23, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I just noticed on the George W. Bush page that Image:Lincoln18.jpg (sorry, I don't know how to link to it without making the entire image appear on this page) is listed as a candidate for speedy deletion on January 6th. However, I have searched and searched and cannot find where this was at all discussed or even nominated for deletion. I looked where I thought the nomination would have been listed, but it's not there. Can someone tell me where the original complaint was posted, and where I would post an objection if I were to be able to establish that the image was usable? (I don't intend to start an argument about this particular matter; I'm just trying to learn where things are for future reference.) Thanks... -- Aaron 23:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I have a followup question to the "Why sign the template?" discussion above: Why do the instructions tell editors to sign the first template (the one posted to the article itself or the image description page) and the second template (the one posted on the "Today's Section" page) but not the third template (the one posted to the article creator/image uploader's talk page)? I just had someone freak out and launch a pissy personal attack on me on both his and my talk pages, because I didn't sign the templates I put on his page (he uploaded two copyvio images at the same time, so I posted two copies of the template, one for each image).
There is definitely confusion on this issue, as any random check of a few copyvio reports will show that at least half of copyvio editors do not sign the templates they post to user talk pages. And when I brought up this issue on #Wikipedia, the consensus was pretty much unanimous that editors should sign these templates even though the instructions do not explicitly say to do so.
So we have what I hope we can all agree is a confusing set of instructions, and I personally think that any change which will greatly reduce the chances of future arguments between editors is a good thing. Given that, I ask if there would there be any objection to me editing the instructions to include the ~~~~ on the user talk page templates (and making a few minor formatting changes so that the user talk template instructions match the other template instructions design-wise), so that the table will appear as follows:
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The only differences here from the version currently on the page are:
Any objections? Aaron 03:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
http://www.tvave.com/CartoonNetwork-O/Oh_My_Goddess.php
Is my analysis incorrect? This is for a much earlier version of Oh My Goddess! ( something like this) -- Cool Cat Talk| @ 09:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
This page appears to be trying to serve two purposes.
I suggest we'd do better with two separate pages? Regards, Ben Aveling 12:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The current instructions seem to be giving people the impression that everything can be speedy deleted, whether or not its from a commercial content provider or there is chance of permission. For example, an article about
John Kay (economist) using material from
http://www.johnkay.com/ and I believe the user name was
User:John Kay or something like that. This seems like a perfect example where we should wait and give the contributor a chance to give permission to use the material, but nonetheless it was speedy deleted. If all new copyvio is to be speedily deleted the instructions need to be updated to reflect that. If not, we need to clarify them.
Kappa 16:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
As you can see the backlog here is shocking. This page is inneffective, as is the current process, and I'm going to continue to nuke obvious candidates that I come accross. IAR. -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
It has ocured to me that there is some "redundancy" in places one can list a image with a problematic license. WP:IFD, WP:PUI and WP:CP all accept images with unclear/missing/false/disputed copyright status to be listed for deletion/clearification and while the processes have somewhat different focus the same results are usualy achieved, and it often seems to be down to personal preference wich process you choose to deal with a questionable image. Do we need some clearifications in this area or is it working well enough to not be worth tampering with? Just curious, personaly I work mostly with the completely untagged images wich are speedy deletion candidates, but once in a while I come across images with blatantly wrong license info (such as game consept art labeled as PD or GFDL and what not) and become unsure just where to list them, or wether or not I should just slap the "no license" tag on them and let them be speedied if the uploader does not react after being notified. -- Sherool (talk) 18:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The following posts belong here, not in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fair use, which discusses future wikipedia fair use policy. Travb 16:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Someone want to have a look at Image talk:SaddamBaghdadwalkabout.jpg? I can't for the life of me see what to do to tag it more appropriately, and the fair use justification seems solid, but it seems to be marked for deletion
By the way, is there some different place than here that I should raise a question like this? -- Jmabel | Talk 04:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
We discussed this before, and it was pretty agreed that the use of the SEPTA logo in {{ SEPTA}} is OK. Zzyzx11 recently removed it, citing the fair use policy. Can we get a policy change on this? Something like "the logo of an organization is allowed on a navigational template for articles closely related to that organization"? -- SPUI ( talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 21:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I have created {{ Vector-Images.com}}, which is based on the Commons template by the same name. I also pasted a link to the terms of service agreement that the Vector-Images.com people told us that we can use their images under, so we might have a possibility of having less fair use images to deal with due to this. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 08:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
There are various FU violations to be seen at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Football-- Doc ask? 02:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Should the promo tags explicitly ask the uploader to add a source? As far as fair use goes the source - in so far as it could help establish the ownership of an image - should probably be provided.-- nixie 02:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I've got a list of unusual .ogg files at User:Carnildo/Unusual Files. The unusually large ones may contain a number of full album tracks or excessively large samples, while the small ones probably include many non-ogg files that have been renamed. There's about 750 files in total; could someone help me in checking them out? -- Carnildo 02:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
When uploading an image from source deemed to be an Original Video Animation, should we use the tv-screenshot templete or the film-screenshot templete, or does it matter? TomStar81 23:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
How much of what is on b:Pokémon Trading Card Game/Fossil can be used. I want to list every Pokémon Card and its text, so how much can be used? Gerard Foley 16:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I've listed a bunch of Canadian Crown Copyright tags on tfd, since they are badly written and not being used as intended, more input on the discussion would be appreciated at {{ CanadaCopyright}} and others.-- nixie 22:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Image:Dylan jams with campbell.jpg has turned into a contentious matter. It was recently deleted for lacking copyright information, and has been re-uploaded by JDG ( talk · contribs). Since I have been involved in the whole thing, I would appreciate it if some other admin would review the conversation at Image talk:Dylan jams with campbell.jpg and either find some way to justify this screen-capture of a bootleg video as fair use after coaxing the authorship info out of the user, or, failing that, delete the image again and caution the user about image use. Thanks. Jkelly 22:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Consider Yoda. It has several screenshots of Yoda from the various Star Wars movies. I'm new to this game, but from what I'm reading here (and elsewhere), it seems that the claim of fair use on the screenshots would only apply to their usage in articles about the movies themselves, rather than articles about the characters.
Is this true? If so, then lots and lots of movie character pages need revision, I think. Would it be enough to indicate the name (and version, in the case of Starwars grr) of the film in a caption to each image? Some captions on Yoda do that, but not all (3 out of 8).
Or am I being too restrictive? Staecker 00:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I've spotted a couple pages (namely Auditorium Building, Chicago and Gage Building) that make extensive use of imagery from Mary Ann Sullivan's Digital Imaging Project. At the bottom of her image galleries she notes "Please feel free to use them for personal or educational purposes." and "They are not available for commercial purposes without my explicit permission." Am I correct in thinking these fall under the same umbrella as Creative Commons NonCommercial images and need to be deleted? - EurekaLott 03:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
This is regarding the article Five O'clock Dog - a new user keeps adding the message Five O'clock Dog® is a registered trademark. to the article, and I don't think it should be there. If there are questions over the use of this name in Wikipedia then tbh the article shouldn't be there at all. I think it takes away from the encyclopedic-ness of the article to have the message there - what do other people think? -- Francs 2000 10:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
On article IMac, user:Schwarzm claimed the promophoto of an IMac Image:IMacIntel.jpg to be fair use, after I had removed it once [8]. Commonts? / Fred- Chess 03:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I am not quite sure what to do with the page 满汉全席. The Chinese text on the page appears clearly copyrighted (it says "中国中央电视台版权所有", which means "Chinese Central Television, all rights reserved" on the source page) but the submitter since translated it and claims his actions to be fair use, see User talk:Shaoquan. As I don't really know copyright law very well, I wanted to ask for advice here before I put the ugly {{ copyvio}} notice on the page, in order to avoid to bite this newcomer. Help would be greatly appreciated, either here, at User talk:Shaoquan or on my talk page. Kusma (討論) 01:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Case in point Cal Schenkel, the source it was copied from is actualy the Cal Schenkel] article at another Wiki wich also use the GFDL license. So no problem right? However then I started thinking; GFDL require the original editors to be atributed, so how do I do that for an external source? Is it enough to point to the external source where people can just click the "history" link themselves, or do I have to list the editors of the original article, or even copy the entire edit history (like when you move a image to commons), and how to do that for an article without making it "ugly". -- Sherool (talk) 16:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
This article appears to be a copyvio of various parts of dances.mayukhi.com. Either that, or the website is using WP's material and claiming copyright over it. Can an expert please take a look? Kappa 12:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
A number of images have been added from the online edition of Gray's anatomy. (E.g. Gray347.png) (In fact, they've been added to Wikimedia commons, but I don't know where to register my concern there.) The images have been marked as "public domain". However, while the books themselves from which the images are take are no doubt public domain, the images are almost certainly taken from the online edition at http://www.bartleby.com/107/
Are these images really public domain? If a contributor took the time to scan the images themselves, then I can see that the images would be fine. However, since it's bartleby.com who have done the scanning, are we really allowed to nick their images? (Worse than that, the Talk:Gray's Anatomy suggests that we've also taken some text from the website, which is no doubt from their OCR software.
I've no experience about US copyright law, but in the UK there's something called "mechanical copyright", which refers to the copyright in the representation of the images. (Ie even if the images themselves are out of copyright, specific scans of the images might still be copyrighted. I'd appreciate it if one of the more experienced people check over the situation. Bluap 13:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
(I also posted this under the technical section at village pump.) The instructions at WP:CP currently state that {{ article-cv}} should be used to list images on that page. However, if one follows this, the entire image is displayed because it isn't prefixed with a colon ( : ). Is there another template that should be used for images? There is no {{ image-cv}}. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
This category is just brimming with "copyvios". I've been spending the last few days just going over the most "suspicoius" looking images there and I've retagged like a 1000 obvius fair use images that where hiding in there. I'm talking albumcovers, tv and movie screenshots, logos and such and a huge number of promo pictures. Not to mention the tonnes of images that have no source, just a tag that says the the copyright holder allow anyone to use it for anyting or some such, not a word on why. Now a few of those are "legit" uploaded by the photogapher without as much as a "I made this" in the summary, but many, if not most are lifted from somewhere else. It seems people are reading the tag selectively and because there is "copyrighted" in the tag name people just dump copyrighted stuff in there without reading the actual text of the license. I've seen things like "This image is owned by so and so, allowed for non-commercial purposes only all rights reserved", followed by the "The copyright holder have released all rights to this work and allow it to be used for any purpose bla bla bla" license tag. It's kinda depressing. That's on top of the regular "well there is no copyright notice on the site so it's public domain" kind of misunderstandings. Anyway I've come to the conclution that I'm not even scratching the surface of this one on my own so a few more eyeballs on this category would be nice. It's long overdue for some serious "spring cleaning" IMHO. -- Sherool (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Recently, a good article was incorrectly flagged as a copyvio, and subsequently deleted. After some time and a series of misunderstandings, it was reinstated. However, it could have easily been avoided by simply contacting the article's creator so that the copyvio notice was actually noticed! In this article's case, the original text of the article contained the alleged copyvio, and the creator of the article was still an active contributor. However, the copyvio notice wasn't noticed, so went unchallenged. May I propose that when a copyvio notice is placed on a page, the original creator of the article is contacted as well, as a matter of course. Then there is no possibility of the process going unnoticed. (It's all too easy to miss something with several thousand articles on a watchlist).
In addition, for a non-admin, it was impossible to correctly recreate the "crumb trail" of activity that led to the article's deletion, since the article history was also deleted, and the deletion log only contained the barest summary. It is this that led to some unnecessary misunderstanding. I'm not sure what should be done about this, but a way to have a more complete picture of the deletion process after the event could be very useful in avoiding a repeat of this. Graham 03:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a question as a new admin trying to make some headway on this page. If I move a /Temp page to replace a copyvio, is it considered acceptable (if not totally in strict compliance with WP:CSD#R) to delete the redirect? I can't see why not (no one would ever stumble on those pages), but if anyone objects at all, I won't do it. Superm401 - Talk 01:21, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Folks, what is the policy or guideline on articles that have been copied from a website by the author of that website?? In particular, check out Laguna Catemaco and this site. The editor, DonGringo, has copied quite a few of his webpages into Wikipedia (they are not quite written in encyclopedic style, but that's another question). Madman 19:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Is there any compelling reason for me to not simply delete the offending edits at Hannah Teter? Given that a number of editors are removing the copyvio notice from a high-profile article in order to create a real article, it would be less of a pain to simply let people go ahead and work rather than having to monitor the thing to ensure that the copyvio tag remains. Thoughts? Jkelly 21:51, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
YES. God just let anyone do it. Why does it have to be so heirarchical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivymike21 ( talk • contribs)
Yes, this is one of the problems with wikipedia. As it has gotten bogged down in structure and heirarchy and policies, it isn't able to change and adapt as fast as it once could. Hannah Teter is a current event, she won a gold medal YESTERDAY (13/02/06) and her page right now is a tiny stub marred with a huge copyright notice. Wait a week to change that, and she'll be yesterday's news. This signed contribution was the work of IvyMike21, bub.
Is there a reason why Feb 16 is excluded from this combined page? The JPS 02:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
For a very long time, I've been told to put all copyvios here, rather than revert to the previous version in history (when one exists) because we want to remove it from the history, right? So now I come here to report Band-e Amir and the box on WP:CP says, hey, just revert! Ignore the history! Will someone please tell me what we're supposed to do? -- Golbez 04:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm uncertain whether List of NP-complete problems is a copyright violation or not. Most of the problems are listed in exactly the same categories and in the same order as in the famous book Computers and Intractability; I have personally verified this. Since copyright has been shown to protect the organization of a collection of facts, even if the facts themselves cannot be protected, would it stand to reason that this is copyright violation?
If so, what's the appropriate way to clean it up? Turn it into a "naked" list of problems in random order and wait for it to be recategorised in some other way? Thanks for any input. Deco 23:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I have an idea for dealing with these. See Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems/Without online source, and let me know what you think. – Quadell ( talk) ( bounties) 14:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
It looks like we have a situation now that's not addressed by Wikipedia's current copyright problems policy.
On 12 February, the Robert Hoyzer article was listed as a copyvio because it matched an article in The Peninsula, a newspaper in Qatar, on 26 December 2005.
Only one problem... The Peninsula violated Wikipedia's copyright, not the other way around. The Peninsula story virtually matches Wikipedia's version of the Hoyzer article as it existed on 26 December. The Hoyzer article has existed as a non-stub since 27 January 2005. Matter of fact, I recognized several of my own edits to the Wikipedia article in the Peninsula piece.
The problem this scenario brings up: Why is there not a speedy process for resolving a false copyvio when it's clear that Wikipedia's copyright was violated? — Dale Arnett 02:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I saw this article - Luton Riots. The entire article is a copy from here. But I did not tag it for sppedy deletion because it says that the site from which the copy is done should have intention of making profit. This url has a .org suffix, which means that it must not be making profit from it, nor is it a commercial site. So what would be the appropriate way to tag it? Or is it not a copyright problem at all? - Aksi great 13:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wonder why there are still very old cases that have not been cleared.-- Jusjih 09:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
copyright/fair use or not:
-- geekyßroad . meow? 06:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Is public domain text copied wholesale from other sources like Bion 8 acceptable for wikipedia? It seems a bit wrong to me, as we then license the text under a more restrictive license withpout having put any creative effort in to it. -- Martyman- (talk) 09:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I tagged the biography section of Beverley Knight because it admitted it was cut and paste from her official web site. Later the same day an anon IP with only 1 edit removed the copyvio tag and left it blank. Curiously, all the content on the page came from a series of other anon IPs who only edit Beverley Knight and her music. So this may be the original author, or it may be something else. Should I restore the tag as vandalism? Thatcher131 00:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)