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Nominator's rationale: More accurate. Agents refers to someone recruited to spy, rather than an agent handler referred to as a
case officer. This category includes agent handlers who were employees of CIA, rather than people the CIA recruited to spy on their behalf.
Longhornsg (
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Alt rename and re-parent to "Assassinated" instead of "Murdered" and purge articles about more casual murders.
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✗plicit 23:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I like the alternative per marco.
Mason (
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Comment should this also include executed officers? And what of assets that have been assassinated or executed? (foreigners recruited as "agents" and fixers) --
65.92.247.66 (
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I'm indifferent between officer and agent.
Mason (
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@
HouseBlaster: most articles in the category are about officers but not all, so let's keep it at agents.
Marcocapelle (
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I forgot to ask
Longhornsg if you have thoughts about the alt rename? Is it an acceptable compromise for you? HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: I think that we should repurpose this category to contain all of the theater people form Cleveland rather than delete it.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to diffuse American dramatists and playwrights by city. Notably this is the _only_ city category.
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Support per nom
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Nominator's rationale: The article
Combined authorities and combined county authorities has been amended to include combined county authorities as they are similar to combined authorities. Other articles have been amended to reflect this change. The category should reflect this in the same manner, as it currently includes pages linked to it which are CCAs but appear in this category as CAs.
TheBishopAndHolyPrince (
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Ok, but add "in England" (or is it UK?) for clarity.
Johnbod (
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The main article does not include "in England". The template
Template:Combined authorities and combined county authorities does not either. I would therefore propose to leave out "in England" so that it matches with the template, the article and the other text on the category page. 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
TheBishopAndHolyPrince (
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Categories often need clearer names than articles, as here.
Johnbod (
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Probably better the other way round as the article is confusing attempting to cover 2 separate things, the article needs splitting not the categories merging.
Keith D (
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Comment I don't think it ne_eds to affect this discussion but the nominator has been indefinitely blocked so don't expect any response to questions. LizRead!Talk! 04:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, I didn't think he'd last.
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Rename to match the main article. I don't see why "in England" is necessary.
* Pppery *it has begun... 20:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Follow article, in this case rename category as nominated. If the article is split, per
User:Keith D, then by all means follow that too.
Marcocapelle (
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Use England as this will collect various authorities that have been variously combined --
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China after 1949 is considered to be synonymous with the People's Republic. This would require a much broader discussion than just about culture, but I doubt the discussion would lead somewhere.
Marcocapelle (
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We don't have to. Our category trees and main articles are quite clear:
If we re-parent it as I proposed, it all makes sense.
NLeeuw (
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It leaves the problem that "by city in the People's Republic of China" is considered to be equivalent to "by city in China" even without renaming.
Category:Cities in China does not contain cities in Taiwan.
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Comment: Those who voted for the China–PRC merger never bothered to figure out what to do with topics as such. Topics associated with
culture of the PRC, e.g., should certainly be fed to a category similarly named but such scenarios have simply been ignored.
188.211.233.131 (
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There are topical subcategories for the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Montenegro, the United Provinces of the Netherlands (the Dutch Republic), the Orange Free State, the Transvaal Republic, the United Province of Canada, the Kingdom of Great Britain, the Confederate State of America, Pakistan, the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, and so on and so forth. Why can't there be subcategories for the PRC?
188.211.233.131 (
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What about Indian foo and Foo of the Republic of India, for instance? The former may according to contexts covers Pakistan and/or Bangladesh and that the latter is a subset of the former.
188.211.233.131 (
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From when on would it be right to equate the Soviet Union with Russia, or Malaya with Malaysia, or England or Great Britain with the United Kingdom, for the purpose of categorisation on Wikipedia?
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The category can be recreated when there are more pages to add. I really tried to find anything that could be added, and turned up nothing.
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Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something that it does not differentiate them at all. Put it more precisely, it is not defining that they are the personification of something, it is only defining what they personify, and
Category:Deities by association suffices for the latter purpose.
Marcocapelle (
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Support, if only because most if not all polytheistic deities are personifications of various concepts, and I agree that
Category:Deities by association serves that purpose better.
AHI-3000 (
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Keep, these well-populated categories, per nom that "it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something" seems to be a fact and observation in favor of keeping the pages instead of a negative blow to their existence. Personifications are a "thing", not an abstract thought or whim.
Randy Kryn (
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Keep: those categories are sufficiently and clearly defined within their contexts in mythology and folklore, since all of them were/are considered to be inseparable from the things they personify. Personifications have been a thing since a very long time, and are easily recognised and differentiated. Moreover, all those categories have enough pages that merging them would do the opposite of cleaning up.
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Opposers seem to think that the nomination would entirely abolish personifications. That is not the case and not the intention. Personifications are still kept in place in
Category:Deities by association.
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Keep: The issue may be the misunderstanding and misuse of the category. Most deities in Greek and Roman myths are not personifications; they embody or possess certain powers (and "associations"), but they are both
cultivated as deities and treated as superhuman figures who play roles in narratives (myths). Personifications, however, are properly single-focus divinities such as
Virtus or
Fides (deity) who embody abstractions such as virtues or ideas; these are not actually "mythological" figures because they have no myths (no stories). They have
temples, for example, or serve as icons, as on coins. In that sense they are part of
Roman religion, notRoman mythology. I don't know what the nominator means in the phrase "something that it does not differentiate them at all." Medieval personification is also not the same as ancient, since personifications are allegorical or mystical aspects within a monotheistic tradition; they are not deities but are part of what we might neutrally call Christian mythology in a technical sense of narratives that explore universal truths. "Lady Liberty," by contrast, is an example of a secular (or secularized) personification.
Cynwolfe (
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This would very strongly reduce the content of these categories. It is (in quantitative sense) much closer to delete than to keep. I just wonder if it would be maintainable like that.
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Category:Latter Day Saint Style Guide Rename
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Nominator's rationale: According to the official
style guide for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, When a shortened reference is needed, the terms “the Church” or the “Church of Jesus Christ” are encouraged. The “restored Church of Jesus Christ” is also accurate and encouraged.DarthTanner421 (
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This is not a convincing argument. You need to make a case that reliable sources commonly use the expression "The Church of Jesus Christ".
Marcocapelle (
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I second Marco on this. Unless you can demonstrate that this is standard practice or in numerous non-affiliated credible style guides, I oppose this rename.
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Merge for now as it is a very small category. Hypothetically this could become a set category while
Category:Private spaceflight would serve as a topic category.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep it is merely not being populated. All the missions currently in
Category:New Shepard missions would qualify for this category (though not necessarily all of them in the future, if a government charters a spaceflight); as would most of the missions in
Category:SpaceShipTwo except the one chartered by the Italian Space Agency and the ones that did not reach space; as would all the missions in
Category:Axiom Space; and all the space missions in
Category:SpaceShipOne not including the ones that did not reach space. There's also the Russian movie filmed on the ISS, which would be its own space mission, in addition to riding with people on other missions. --
65.92.247.66 (
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Feel free to add articles to the category as appropriate.
Marcocapelle (
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@
HouseBlaster: with 20 articles now in the category the nomination has become moot.
Marcocapelle (
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Withdraw – even though
the category creator had no objection.
[1] There is a category hierarchy
Category:Space missions but the creator had not added this as a parent. I have added it now and, given this and the added population, the category now looks a lot more useful. –
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The result of the discussion was:keep. No prejudice against a nomination of the entire tree.
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Nominator's rationale: Typo. Diocesan Girls' School is a girls' school and the word "alumnae" should be used instead. Prince of Erebor(
The Book of Mazarbul) 10:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. We don't use the female version for alumni for categories.
Mason (
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Rename per nom. Remarks: This isn't probably the case of DGS, but there are women's education institutions which are having or had at some point male students, or vice versa, e.g. YWGS, SSGC, or SJA, especially when there were matriculation classes for the A-levels (SJA went on to become coeducational).
61.244.93.97 (
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I have seen Mason's argument before. It would be useful for the progress of the discussion if someone would provide examples of other girls' schools. I do not have an opinion myself, except let's just follow convention.
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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one city in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation.
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Nominator's rationale: More accurate. Agents refers to someone recruited to spy, rather than an agent handler referred to as a
case officer. This category includes agent handlers who were employees of CIA, rather than people the CIA recruited to spy on their behalf.
Longhornsg (
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Alt rename and re-parent to "Assassinated" instead of "Murdered" and purge articles about more casual murders.
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✗plicit 23:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I like the alternative per marco.
Mason (
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Comment should this also include executed officers? And what of assets that have been assassinated or executed? (foreigners recruited as "agents" and fixers) --
65.92.247.66 (
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I'm indifferent between officer and agent.
Mason (
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@
HouseBlaster: most articles in the category are about officers but not all, so let's keep it at agents.
Marcocapelle (
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I forgot to ask
Longhornsg if you have thoughts about the alt rename? Is it an acceptable compromise for you? HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: I think that we should repurpose this category to contain all of the theater people form Cleveland rather than delete it.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to diffuse American dramatists and playwrights by city. Notably this is the _only_ city category.
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Support per nom
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Nominator's rationale: The article
Combined authorities and combined county authorities has been amended to include combined county authorities as they are similar to combined authorities. Other articles have been amended to reflect this change. The category should reflect this in the same manner, as it currently includes pages linked to it which are CCAs but appear in this category as CAs.
TheBishopAndHolyPrince (
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Ok, but add "in England" (or is it UK?) for clarity.
Johnbod (
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The main article does not include "in England". The template
Template:Combined authorities and combined county authorities does not either. I would therefore propose to leave out "in England" so that it matches with the template, the article and the other text on the category page. 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
TheBishopAndHolyPrince (
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Categories often need clearer names than articles, as here.
Johnbod (
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Probably better the other way round as the article is confusing attempting to cover 2 separate things, the article needs splitting not the categories merging.
Keith D (
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Comment I don't think it ne_eds to affect this discussion but the nominator has been indefinitely blocked so don't expect any response to questions. LizRead!Talk! 04:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, I didn't think he'd last.
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Rename to match the main article. I don't see why "in England" is necessary.
* Pppery *it has begun... 20:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Follow article, in this case rename category as nominated. If the article is split, per
User:Keith D, then by all means follow that too.
Marcocapelle (
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Use England as this will collect various authorities that have been variously combined --
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China after 1949 is considered to be synonymous with the People's Republic. This would require a much broader discussion than just about culture, but I doubt the discussion would lead somewhere.
Marcocapelle (
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We don't have to. Our category trees and main articles are quite clear:
If we re-parent it as I proposed, it all makes sense.
NLeeuw (
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It leaves the problem that "by city in the People's Republic of China" is considered to be equivalent to "by city in China" even without renaming.
Category:Cities in China does not contain cities in Taiwan.
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Comment: Those who voted for the China–PRC merger never bothered to figure out what to do with topics as such. Topics associated with
culture of the PRC, e.g., should certainly be fed to a category similarly named but such scenarios have simply been ignored.
188.211.233.131 (
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There are topical subcategories for the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Montenegro, the United Provinces of the Netherlands (the Dutch Republic), the Orange Free State, the Transvaal Republic, the United Province of Canada, the Kingdom of Great Britain, the Confederate State of America, Pakistan, the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, and so on and so forth. Why can't there be subcategories for the PRC?
188.211.233.131 (
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What about Indian foo and Foo of the Republic of India, for instance? The former may according to contexts covers Pakistan and/or Bangladesh and that the latter is a subset of the former.
188.211.233.131 (
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From when on would it be right to equate the Soviet Union with Russia, or Malaya with Malaysia, or England or Great Britain with the United Kingdom, for the purpose of categorisation on Wikipedia?
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Category:Roman villas in Germany
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The category can be recreated when there are more pages to add. I really tried to find anything that could be added, and turned up nothing.
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Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something that it does not differentiate them at all. Put it more precisely, it is not defining that they are the personification of something, it is only defining what they personify, and
Category:Deities by association suffices for the latter purpose.
Marcocapelle (
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Support, if only because most if not all polytheistic deities are personifications of various concepts, and I agree that
Category:Deities by association serves that purpose better.
AHI-3000 (
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Keep, these well-populated categories, per nom that "it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something" seems to be a fact and observation in favor of keeping the pages instead of a negative blow to their existence. Personifications are a "thing", not an abstract thought or whim.
Randy Kryn (
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Keep: those categories are sufficiently and clearly defined within their contexts in mythology and folklore, since all of them were/are considered to be inseparable from the things they personify. Personifications have been a thing since a very long time, and are easily recognised and differentiated. Moreover, all those categories have enough pages that merging them would do the opposite of cleaning up.
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Opposers seem to think that the nomination would entirely abolish personifications. That is not the case and not the intention. Personifications are still kept in place in
Category:Deities by association.
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Keep: The issue may be the misunderstanding and misuse of the category. Most deities in Greek and Roman myths are not personifications; they embody or possess certain powers (and "associations"), but they are both
cultivated as deities and treated as superhuman figures who play roles in narratives (myths). Personifications, however, are properly single-focus divinities such as
Virtus or
Fides (deity) who embody abstractions such as virtues or ideas; these are not actually "mythological" figures because they have no myths (no stories). They have
temples, for example, or serve as icons, as on coins. In that sense they are part of
Roman religion, notRoman mythology. I don't know what the nominator means in the phrase "something that it does not differentiate them at all." Medieval personification is also not the same as ancient, since personifications are allegorical or mystical aspects within a monotheistic tradition; they are not deities but are part of what we might neutrally call Christian mythology in a technical sense of narratives that explore universal truths. "Lady Liberty," by contrast, is an example of a secular (or secularized) personification.
Cynwolfe (
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This would very strongly reduce the content of these categories. It is (in quantitative sense) much closer to delete than to keep. I just wonder if it would be maintainable like that.
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Category:Funerals in Pakistan
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Category:Latter Day Saint Style Guide Rename
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Nominator's rationale: According to the official
style guide for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, When a shortened reference is needed, the terms “the Church” or the “Church of Jesus Christ” are encouraged. The “restored Church of Jesus Christ” is also accurate and encouraged.DarthTanner421 (
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This is not a convincing argument. You need to make a case that reliable sources commonly use the expression "The Church of Jesus Christ".
Marcocapelle (
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I second Marco on this. Unless you can demonstrate that this is standard practice or in numerous non-affiliated credible style guides, I oppose this rename.
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Category:Private space missions
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Merge for now as it is a very small category. Hypothetically this could become a set category while
Category:Private spaceflight would serve as a topic category.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep it is merely not being populated. All the missions currently in
Category:New Shepard missions would qualify for this category (though not necessarily all of them in the future, if a government charters a spaceflight); as would most of the missions in
Category:SpaceShipTwo except the one chartered by the Italian Space Agency and the ones that did not reach space; as would all the missions in
Category:Axiom Space; and all the space missions in
Category:SpaceShipOne not including the ones that did not reach space. There's also the Russian movie filmed on the ISS, which would be its own space mission, in addition to riding with people on other missions. --
65.92.247.66 (
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Feel free to add articles to the category as appropriate.
Marcocapelle (
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@
HouseBlaster: with 20 articles now in the category the nomination has become moot.
Marcocapelle (
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Withdraw – even though
the category creator had no objection.
[1] There is a category hierarchy
Category:Space missions but the creator had not added this as a parent. I have added it now and, given this and the added population, the category now looks a lot more useful. –
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The result of the discussion was:keep. No prejudice against a nomination of the entire tree.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Typo. Diocesan Girls' School is a girls' school and the word "alumnae" should be used instead. Prince of Erebor(
The Book of Mazarbul) 10:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. We don't use the female version for alumni for categories.
Mason (
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Rename per nom. Remarks: This isn't probably the case of DGS, but there are women's education institutions which are having or had at some point male students, or vice versa, e.g. YWGS, SSGC, or SJA, especially when there were matriculation classes for the A-levels (SJA went on to become coeducational).
61.244.93.97 (
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I have seen Mason's argument before. It would be useful for the progress of the discussion if someone would provide examples of other girls' schools. I do not have an opinion myself, except let's just follow convention.
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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one city in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation.
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