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Delete for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Ōigawa Railway Ikawa Line is a branch line.
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Category:Post–World War II synagogue architecture
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Nominator's rationale:delete, overlaps with
Category:Synagogues by year of completion. In contrast to what the parent category suggests, the content is not about a particular architecturale style.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Puerto Rican luthiers
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:American luthiers. Marcocapelle's argument allows us to sidestep the question of what Puerto Rico counts as in terms of being American.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category. (The person is already in Puerto Rican music educators, so only one target is needed)
Mason (
talk) 21:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Merge instead to Luthiers and Puerto Rican musicians/artisans. Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. It isn't part of the 50 states and the DC or an incorporated territory.
121.202.202.197 (
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The subject of the article lived in mainland United States while he was a luthier so merging to
Category:American luthiers is entirely justifiable.
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Category:Civil servants from Winnipeg
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Nominator's rationale: Small category for an overly narrow intersection of characteristics. There's no defining relationship between civil service and being from Winnipeg per se, so the only basis for this would be if the parent category needed diffusion on size grounds -- but with only three people here and only four in the parent, that hasn't been established. (Upmerging to
Category:People from Winnipeg not needed, as all three people here are already in other subcategories of that as it is.)
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion
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Nominator's rationale: Other than
Asian Americans in music, all the articles here are people. Current title could infer types of music specifically made by Asian Americans, and I'm not sure any such genre exists. Couldn't really think of anything else that would go in here other than more people. Adding the hyphen as
C2C with the rest of
Category:Asian-American culture.
QuietHere (
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Merge per Mason, the category only contains articles about people, not about any particular genre.
Marcocapelle (
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I also support this merger. Probably should've thought of it first.
QuietHere (
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Preserve the link with the categories Asian-American culture and American music.
121.202.202.197 (
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What does Preserve the link mean?
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Category:Brain cancers
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Category:LGBT criminals
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Nominator's rationale: This is an extremely problematic category, under
WP:EGRS. We do not need an intersection of sexual orientation and crime. Similar categories have been deleted at the intersection of crime and race.
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Category:Filipino police generals
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Category:Director General of National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies
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Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in the Falkland Islands
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The result of the discussion was:merge as nominated. The IP's opposition is not particularly cogent: they are already in the tree of the sovereign power. And I will add that personal attacks (The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations) never make one's argument stronger.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one church in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation.
Mason (
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Merge for now, without objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose in the cases of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar. Dependent territory categories don't get under the categories of the sovereign powers this way. The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations.
121.202.28.169 (
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Confusingly in the case of Reunion further above on this page, IP went in the opposite direction.
Marcocapelle (
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Yeah, I think that the IP has much stronger feelings about HK and Macao because they're in Hong Kong.
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Category:Maliseet and Category:Maliseet people
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Nominator's rationale: Maliseet is becoming more of an outdated name for the peoples; Wolastoqiyik is its official name and is becoming more & preferably used including by the area's governments:
New Brunswick,
Quebec, and
Maine. Wolastoqiyik is also preferred by the
Canadian Encyclopedia,
Dartmouth,
CBC, etc. Additionally, my move discussion for the main article under this topic (formerly 'Maliseet') to 'Wolastoqiyik' received unanimous support and was successfully moved, so it makes sense to move the relevant categories as well. This discussion also includes
Category:Maliseet people.
B3251 (
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Support To match the recently-moved main article.
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Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one continent in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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Category:Guayana Esequiba
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Nominator's rationale:Guayana Esequiba is not an administrative division of Guyana and shouldn't be categorized as if it is. It is the Venezuelan name of the area that is disputed by Venezuela.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep: Guayana Esequiba one of the geographical areas of the
Guianas, like it is the case with the
British,
French and
Dutch Guianas. It can be compared to the
Patagonia or the
Rocky Mountains, they don't have to be limited by administrative dvisions.The categories currently has articles about its flora and fauna. --
NoonIcarus (
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The comparison with
Patagonia does not hold because the name Patagonia is used in the country itself and in many other countries. In contrast, Guayana Esequiba is only used in Venezuela. It is a matter of NPOV.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Not used only by Venezuela. It's just the Spanish name for the region. --
NoonIcarus (
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Whether or not it is a region at all is a matter of POV.
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Qwerfjkltalk 11:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, irredentist claim rather than a useful category tree. Looked to see if we had a similar one for Taiwan Province or Tskhinvali Region and we do not seem to.
CMD (
talk) 12:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: There is indeed a Taiwan Province on parts of the island of Taiwan and the islands of Pescadores, which don't cover Taipei since 1967 and Kaohsiung since 1979. It still exists on paper even after it was streamlined.
121.202.28.169 (
talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Adding plants and animals into a category about a terroritorial dispute doesn't make much sense. The category is about a geographical region. --
NoonIcarus (
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That is exactly why I said "related material". If necessary, Category:Fauna of Guyana, Category:Fauna of the Guianas, Category:Flora of Guyana and Category:Flora of The Guianas can be used. As explained above and in the linked move discussion, "Guayana Esequiba" is a term promoted by Venezuela.
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Category:Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks football games
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oppose this is part of a 191 member category tree. Eliminating just this one would hurt naviagation.--
User:Namiba 18:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
It is 191 subcategories and 5 articles to be precise. A dual merge would make that 190 subcategories and 6 articles. I can't see how that hurts navigation.
Marcocapelle (
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None of the 5 are about an individual game.--
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Category:Palestinian people by descent
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Nominator's rationale: Clearer and less ambiguous, the
category:Palestinian people encompasses all individuals of
Palestinian ethnicity. This name, "Palestinian people by descent," might be interpreted as including those individuals of Palestinian ethnicity whose ancestors were of a different ethnicity or nationality. However, this category actually comprises people from the State of Palestine, categorized by their descent.The term 'Palestinian' may also refer to people from the
Palestine (region) or those from Mandatory Palestine, which are similarly
categorized by descent.
Stisorder (
talk) 20:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This rename changes the scope of the category for the worse, IMO. These people are Palestinians, period.
Omnis Scientia (
talk) 10:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose many of the people in these categories are not from the State of Palestine. It goes without saying that Palestinians have been a largely refugee and diasporic people since 1948. If we remove those who are not from the State of Palestine, we would be essentially erasing their Palestinian heritage.--
User:Namiba 17:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I briefly looked through these categories and didn't find anyone not from the State of Palestine. --
Yorkporter (
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Support per nom. Note: I was pinged. We only categorise people based on their descent if it is known and relevant; this may differ from their citizenship (or subject-hood) or nationality. There have been endless discussions about when it is "relevant", which need not be repeated here. Suffice to say that ethnicity and descent tend to be a lot more controversial than someone's legal affinity to a jurisdiction (unless the status of that jurisdiction is disputed).
NLeeuw (
talk) 17:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose as this changes the scope. People with a defining link to Palestine in other eras also deserve to be called Palestinian. This includes for instance people at the time of the British Mandate, and not just the Arabs.
Place Clichy (
talk) 18:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That was just an example. The State of Palestine was declared in 2013 IIRC. There were Palestinian people before then.
Place Clichy (
talk) 22:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I also wanted to add that
Category:Palestinian people of Israeli descent is absolutely the wrong way of framing it. The Arab Palestinian population within the state of Israel are largely self-defined as Palestinian. An Arab citizen of Israel who represents the Palestinian national football team is Palestinian, not of Israeli descent. So this category should be deleted, period.--
User:Namiba 18:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Qwerfjkltalk 11:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep all. Does Palestine overlap entirely and congruently with the State of Palestine?
203.186.171.150 (
talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
User:Namiba and
User:Place Clichy's rationale and examples. There are many Palestinians who were not born within the current borders of the State of Palestine. These things are not always clear cut, especially in this case. –
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Category:10th-century Danish clergy
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They should be in the same tree. It is absurd to exclude bishops in Denmark from
Category:Danish people by occupation while nobody has an issue with e.g. adding
Dyveke Sigbritsdatter to the tree of Danish people while she grew up in Norway and had Dutch parents.
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Delete is fine. Let's just close this one out.
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Category:Pre-computer cryptographers
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The result of the discussion was:split as follows:
Nominator's rationale: The current name isn't very helpful (not that mine is much better. But I'm trying to contrast
Category:Modern cryptographers). I would love better suggestions.
Mason (
talk) 04:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The above alternative better aligns with the existing category trees.
Marcocapelle (
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Support alternative. Even better! Thank you :)
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Category:15th-century Indian politicians
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redundant layer that's unhelpful for navigation.
Mason (
talk) 00:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom, and monarchs aren't politicians anyway.
Marcocapelle (
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Rename Indian to South Asian to avoid ambiguity.
121.202.28.169 (
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That would require a separate nomination.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category with only one person in it, isn't helpful for navigation.
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Category:Sammarinese women poets
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse women writers yet, with only one poet in here.
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Delete for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Ōigawa Railway Ikawa Line is a branch line.
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Category:Post–World War II synagogue architecture
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Nominator's rationale:delete, overlaps with
Category:Synagogues by year of completion. In contrast to what the parent category suggests, the content is not about a particular architecturale style.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Puerto Rican luthiers
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:American luthiers. Marcocapelle's argument allows us to sidestep the question of what Puerto Rico counts as in terms of being American.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category. (The person is already in Puerto Rican music educators, so only one target is needed)
Mason (
talk) 21:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Merge instead to Luthiers and Puerto Rican musicians/artisans. Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. It isn't part of the 50 states and the DC or an incorporated territory.
121.202.202.197 (
talk) 12:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The subject of the article lived in mainland United States while he was a luthier so merging to
Category:American luthiers is entirely justifiable.
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Category:Civil servants from Winnipeg
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Nominator's rationale: Small category for an overly narrow intersection of characteristics. There's no defining relationship between civil service and being from Winnipeg per se, so the only basis for this would be if the parent category needed diffusion on size grounds -- but with only three people here and only four in the parent, that hasn't been established. (Upmerging to
Category:People from Winnipeg not needed, as all three people here are already in other subcategories of that as it is.)
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion
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Nominator's rationale: Other than
Asian Americans in music, all the articles here are people. Current title could infer types of music specifically made by Asian Americans, and I'm not sure any such genre exists. Couldn't really think of anything else that would go in here other than more people. Adding the hyphen as
C2C with the rest of
Category:Asian-American culture.
QuietHere (
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Merge per Mason, the category only contains articles about people, not about any particular genre.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I also support this merger. Probably should've thought of it first.
QuietHere (
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Preserve the link with the categories Asian-American culture and American music.
121.202.202.197 (
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What does Preserve the link mean?
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Category:Brain cancers
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Category:LGBT criminals
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Nominator's rationale: This is an extremely problematic category, under
WP:EGRS. We do not need an intersection of sexual orientation and crime. Similar categories have been deleted at the intersection of crime and race.
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Category:Filipino police generals
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Category:Director General of National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies
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Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in the Falkland Islands
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The result of the discussion was:merge as nominated. The IP's opposition is not particularly cogent: they are already in the tree of the sovereign power. And I will add that personal attacks (The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations) never make one's argument stronger.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one church in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation.
Mason (
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Merge for now, without objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose in the cases of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar. Dependent territory categories don't get under the categories of the sovereign powers this way. The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations.
121.202.28.169 (
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Confusingly in the case of Reunion further above on this page, IP went in the opposite direction.
Marcocapelle (
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Yeah, I think that the IP has much stronger feelings about HK and Macao because they're in Hong Kong.
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Category:Maliseet and Category:Maliseet people
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Nominator's rationale: Maliseet is becoming more of an outdated name for the peoples; Wolastoqiyik is its official name and is becoming more & preferably used including by the area's governments:
New Brunswick,
Quebec, and
Maine. Wolastoqiyik is also preferred by the
Canadian Encyclopedia,
Dartmouth,
CBC, etc. Additionally, my move discussion for the main article under this topic (formerly 'Maliseet') to 'Wolastoqiyik' received unanimous support and was successfully moved, so it makes sense to move the relevant categories as well. This discussion also includes
Category:Maliseet people.
B3251 (
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Support To match the recently-moved main article.
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Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one continent in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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Category:Guayana Esequiba
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Nominator's rationale:Guayana Esequiba is not an administrative division of Guyana and shouldn't be categorized as if it is. It is the Venezuelan name of the area that is disputed by Venezuela.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep: Guayana Esequiba one of the geographical areas of the
Guianas, like it is the case with the
British,
French and
Dutch Guianas. It can be compared to the
Patagonia or the
Rocky Mountains, they don't have to be limited by administrative dvisions.The categories currently has articles about its flora and fauna. --
NoonIcarus (
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The comparison with
Patagonia does not hold because the name Patagonia is used in the country itself and in many other countries. In contrast, Guayana Esequiba is only used in Venezuela. It is a matter of NPOV.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Not used only by Venezuela. It's just the Spanish name for the region. --
NoonIcarus (
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Whether or not it is a region at all is a matter of POV.
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Qwerfjkltalk 11:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, irredentist claim rather than a useful category tree. Looked to see if we had a similar one for Taiwan Province or Tskhinvali Region and we do not seem to.
CMD (
talk) 12:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: There is indeed a Taiwan Province on parts of the island of Taiwan and the islands of Pescadores, which don't cover Taipei since 1967 and Kaohsiung since 1979. It still exists on paper even after it was streamlined.
121.202.28.169 (
talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Adding plants and animals into a category about a terroritorial dispute doesn't make much sense. The category is about a geographical region. --
NoonIcarus (
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That is exactly why I said "related material". If necessary, Category:Fauna of Guyana, Category:Fauna of the Guianas, Category:Flora of Guyana and Category:Flora of The Guianas can be used. As explained above and in the linked move discussion, "Guayana Esequiba" is a term promoted by Venezuela.
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Category:Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks football games
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oppose this is part of a 191 member category tree. Eliminating just this one would hurt naviagation.--
User:Namiba 18:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
It is 191 subcategories and 5 articles to be precise. A dual merge would make that 190 subcategories and 6 articles. I can't see how that hurts navigation.
Marcocapelle (
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None of the 5 are about an individual game.--
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Category:Palestinian people by descent
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Nominator's rationale: Clearer and less ambiguous, the
category:Palestinian people encompasses all individuals of
Palestinian ethnicity. This name, "Palestinian people by descent," might be interpreted as including those individuals of Palestinian ethnicity whose ancestors were of a different ethnicity or nationality. However, this category actually comprises people from the State of Palestine, categorized by their descent.The term 'Palestinian' may also refer to people from the
Palestine (region) or those from Mandatory Palestine, which are similarly
categorized by descent.
Stisorder (
talk) 20:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This rename changes the scope of the category for the worse, IMO. These people are Palestinians, period.
Omnis Scientia (
talk) 10:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose many of the people in these categories are not from the State of Palestine. It goes without saying that Palestinians have been a largely refugee and diasporic people since 1948. If we remove those who are not from the State of Palestine, we would be essentially erasing their Palestinian heritage.--
User:Namiba 17:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I briefly looked through these categories and didn't find anyone not from the State of Palestine. --
Yorkporter (
talk) 17:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Note: I was pinged. We only categorise people based on their descent if it is known and relevant; this may differ from their citizenship (or subject-hood) or nationality. There have been endless discussions about when it is "relevant", which need not be repeated here. Suffice to say that ethnicity and descent tend to be a lot more controversial than someone's legal affinity to a jurisdiction (unless the status of that jurisdiction is disputed).
NLeeuw (
talk) 17:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose as this changes the scope. People with a defining link to Palestine in other eras also deserve to be called Palestinian. This includes for instance people at the time of the British Mandate, and not just the Arabs.
Place Clichy (
talk) 18:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That was just an example. The State of Palestine was declared in 2013 IIRC. There were Palestinian people before then.
Place Clichy (
talk) 22:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I also wanted to add that
Category:Palestinian people of Israeli descent is absolutely the wrong way of framing it. The Arab Palestinian population within the state of Israel are largely self-defined as Palestinian. An Arab citizen of Israel who represents the Palestinian national football team is Palestinian, not of Israeli descent. So this category should be deleted, period.--
User:Namiba 18:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Qwerfjkltalk 11:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep all. Does Palestine overlap entirely and congruently with the State of Palestine?
203.186.171.150 (
talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
User:Namiba and
User:Place Clichy's rationale and examples. There are many Palestinians who were not born within the current borders of the State of Palestine. These things are not always clear cut, especially in this case. –
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Category:10th-century Danish clergy
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They should be in the same tree. It is absurd to exclude bishops in Denmark from
Category:Danish people by occupation while nobody has an issue with e.g. adding
Dyveke Sigbritsdatter to the tree of Danish people while she grew up in Norway and had Dutch parents.
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Delete is fine. Let's just close this one out.
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Category:Pre-computer cryptographers
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The result of the discussion was:split as follows:
Nominator's rationale: The current name isn't very helpful (not that mine is much better. But I'm trying to contrast
Category:Modern cryptographers). I would love better suggestions.
Mason (
talk) 04:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The above alternative better aligns with the existing category trees.
Marcocapelle (
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Support alternative. Even better! Thank you :)
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Category:15th-century Indian politicians
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redundant layer that's unhelpful for navigation.
Mason (
talk) 00:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom, and monarchs aren't politicians anyway.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Rename Indian to South Asian to avoid ambiguity.
121.202.28.169 (
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That would require a separate nomination.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category with only one person in it, isn't helpful for navigation.
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Category:Sammarinese women poets
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse women writers yet, with only one poet in here.
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