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Category:FOO women executed for witchcraft

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Category:Fictional werewolf hunters

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional monster hunters. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category solely hunts werewolves, suffice it to say it's so tiny as to be an unnecessary WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 21:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. There's no reason to distinguish by type of monster hunted given the size of the category. If the population grows, then it can be recreated. Mason ( talk) 22:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. The world (and this category) needs more werewolf hunters. Keeping us safe from lyncanthropes! Cbl62 ( talk) 20:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional zombie hunters

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Category:Fictional alien hunters

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Category:Fictional occult and psychic detectives

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional paranormal investigators. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There seems to be a pretty large WP:OVERLAPCAT here. Two separate categories on the same thing isn't necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 21:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional characters who break the fourth wall

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Category:Ion Dragoumis

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's only a page and a template in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 19:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Greek journalists by century

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason ( talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This only has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Giovanni 0331:. I'm going to close this nomination, now that you've made two other categories. However, please populate them so that they have more than a handful of people in them. Mason ( talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply


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Category:1901–02 NCAA football bowl games

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:1901 college football season. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in this category. Let'srun ( talk) 00:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. It is an accepted consensus that all years with a bowl game should have an individual category for the bowl games. I do not understand why this year should be the only exception out of 100+. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
The NCAA wasn't established until 1906 so the name itself is anachronistic and needs to be changed.-- User:Namiba 17:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It may be an idea for the future to create decade categories and merge all years to decades until 1939. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I like that idea. Rename Category:College football bowls prior to 1939 and merge the others into it.-- User:Namiba 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Though, what's special about 1939? Why is that the best cutoff? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 16:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That's a fair question. Perhaps we would better off by decade? Category:College football bowls in the 1910s and so on?-- User:Namiba 18:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Unassessed vital articles by level

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should be assessed so it is useful to have Category:Unassessed vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them into levels and topics. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, as above, the subcategories are neither listed here nor tagged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have described them exactly above. I will take any required actions if the the result is delete. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 15:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Level-unknown vital articles by quality

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have an assigned level so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural oppose, some subcategories are not empty, so if the nominated categories aren't kept, they should be merged somewhere rather than deleted. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I intend to change the template so that these categories are not populated anymore. They will still be in Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 18:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • My procedural oppose is meanwhile moot. The categories can be deleted if only because they are permanently empty now. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Photographic history books

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Books of photographs. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, having only 2 articles in the category is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Yep. Agree with nom. 21:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 ( talkcontribs)

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Category:Vital articles in an unknown topic by quality

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have a topic so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia vital articles in an unknown topic to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ MSGJ: do you intend to nominate the subcategories too? If so, you need to list them here and tag the category pages. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I wrote "and all subcategories" above. I don't really have time to tag every single page ... — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ MSGJ: then someone else has to do it, or the discussion will end in a procedural close without action. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
      Well that would be a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy, wouldn't it? If this discussion results in consensust to delete, then I will carry out all needed further actions. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 20:12, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional characters with physical and congenital disorders

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The result of the discussion was: Disperse between Category:Fictional characters with disabilities and Category:Fictional characters by physical feature. It's difficult to find any consensus in this fragmented discussion, but this (expressed as "merge") seems to have the most support and there is clearly a consensus the current situation is unideal. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category. There isn't a need to divide disabilities by physical and mental. Mason ( talk) 16:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename to Category:Fictional characters with physical disorders instead, to provide a clear and distinct counterpart to Category:Fictional characters with mental disorders. AHI-3000 ( talk) 08:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:School buildings in Oregon

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer with one sub-category. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There is a whole tree under Category:School buildings that would need to be addressed. Buildings are different than institutions.-- User:Namiba 23:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - So the nominator oringally empties the category, tries to speedy delete it, then now wants to merge it after creating the "University and college buildings in Oregon" category? Which that would be a subcategory of this category. And as the university one demonstrates, not all buildings should be in schools, otherwise the uni/college building category the nominator just created would also be redundant. Aboutmovies ( talk) 01:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Universities and colleges are not schools. They are both educational institutions and would both belong in the educational buildings category. – Aidan721 ( talk) 18:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Universities and colleges are not schools. Spent three years in law school ... they told me it was a school! Should I sue them for fraud? Cbl62 ( talk) 21:08, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge Per nom. In practice these are the same things since university buildings are not under schools. (I share Cbl62's confusion as to what that is the case but that broader discussion is for another time.) The NRHP listings generally focus on the building architecture rather than the education that went on there. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 17:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Vegetation of New Zealand

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 16:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species. Hesperian 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge. No difference. Gderrin ( talk) 20:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Keep Agree with @ Hesperian:. Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 05:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Vegetation of Australia

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. If kept it needs to be renamed to make it clearer that these are distinct. The category page includes the following description. "This category is for vegetation communities and types that occur in Australia, such as mallee and mulga. For individual plant taxa, see Category:Flora of Australia" Mason ( talk) 15:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:03, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species, as the category page clearly states. It doesn't need renaming either -- the term "vegetation" serves as the name of our article vegetation, and no-one has felt that it needs to be clarified or disambiguated. Hesperian 23:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    • That is just a restatement of the proposal: redefining the flora category to encompass both species articles and vegetation articles, is exactly what is proposed. But I don't see a sensible rationale for doing so. The claim that they are overlapping is simply false. They are related but distinct. Hesperian 12:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
      • Flora is all plant life. Vegetation belongs to plant life too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
        • Golly, it sounds like vegetation is a sub-category of flora. Hesperian 10:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Strong Keep The wording of the nomination itself is a give away by the way it has been created - however, in one point they are separate and not overlapping. There are distinct purposes for the separation. JarrahTree 02:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation and as can be seen from the category include mallee lands, vegetation communities and so on which are Australian. The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 05:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Montenegrin Malacologists

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Closing discussion in order to instead propose merge to Category:Malacologists along with other related single-page categories. (non-admin closure) Monster Iestyn ( talk) 01:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: "malacologists" should not start with a capital letter in this category name. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 03:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Speedy rename per C2A. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 04:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
@ LaundryPizza03 Ah whoops, I forgot about that speedy rename criteria, thanks. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 16:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15#Category:Establishments in Gran Colombia by century. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic London 17:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:31, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support extra layers not needed for a former jurisdiction that only existed in one century. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 17:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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20th century in the Trucial States

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trucial States only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15#Category:Establishments in Gran Colombia by century. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic London 16:30, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software programmed in Java (with no prejudice against speedy renomination); dual merge the others as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Unhelpful for navigation. Deltaspace42 ( talkcontribs) 10:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support GTK and Qt/Neutral on Java GTK and Qt are clearly NARROWCAT. The Java one is well populated but I defer to others whether that intersection is defining. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge GTK and Qt, very poorly populated categories, that is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate these categories when more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun ( talk) 12:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football Mason ( talk) 15:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Keep? - see below argument. We always have categories for different college teams - this seems to have been different than Loyola? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:30, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Delete for now. Neutral on the seasons subcat nomination but this layer doesn't aid navigation regardless. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Loyola Ramblers football seasons. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete without administering novocaine. Per the article on the Chicago Dental Infirmary, it only operated as such from March 12, 1883, until June 30, 1884. It was thereafter rechartered and became the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery". So this category is premised on a misnomer, and it appears there was never any such thing as "Chicago Dental Infirmary football". The sources listed at 1897 Chicago Dental Infirmary football team confirm that the school was then known as the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery" (e.g., here and here), and not the "Chicago Dental Infirmary". Pull the lone tooth from this category and it becomes an empty and useless dental alveolus. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football seasons

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in this category Let'srun ( talk) 12:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football seasons Mason ( talk) 15:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Keep? - generally we keep all categories for different college football seasons, even when there is just one article. Chicago Dental Infirmary seems to have been a different team than Loyola? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete, there is only a redirect and a subcategory. (I am not sure about merging to Loyola Ramblers football seasons.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. As far as I can tell. This team was not a precursor to the Loyola Ramblers team, but rather the only association is that Chicago Dental Infirmary was merged into the dental school at Loyola Chicago in 1926. At the time they were separate institutions with no relation. – Aidan721 ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, and once again sans novocaine. See my rationale on the master category. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Empty babel categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete all (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Propose deleting:
And ~100 other categories
Nomiantor's rationale: These are not the sort of categories that should be kept despite being empty. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per nom. Not sure why these categories exist. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all as empty per WP:CSD#C1. The usage of Template:possibly empty category is inappropriate for these categories and I'm not sure why that would have been added. That template is reserved for cleanup categories that often get emptied and then repopulated, these categories don't fit into that mold. VegaDark ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree with you in theory that these should be speedyable, but I generally prefer to get explicit consensus before undertaking mass actions, so here we are. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment do the language user boxes autocategorize into "CAT:User ISO639" base category if the "-X" skill level subcategory is missing? -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 22:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    It depends. If they are done by #babel: then it will cause Babel AutoCreate to recreate the category; If they are done by a template then it will most likely populate the category despite being red, and someone on WantedCategories patrol will recreate it. But most of these have been empty for years or longer, so that's unlikely. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Roman Catholic cathedrals in Curaçao

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People by occupation and city or town

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_1#People_by_populated_place_in_the_United_States: 1) using denonym per WP:C2C; 2) using "populated place" instead of "city or town" per recent discussions; 3) having the splitter at the end of the category name, per convention.
copy of speedy discussion regarding the first four
  • They can be combined for full CfD with the one further down below for full discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
copy of speedy discussion regarding the fifth
  • That is a good point. The previous rename was a step in the right direction, but not spot on yet, as someone also commented in that discussion. Better move this to full CfD then. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Aidan721, Smasongarrison, and Paul 012: pinging contributors to speedy discussions. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
sibling categories
  • Oppose as proposed. As I mentioned at CFDS, it should be Category:Actresses from France by populated place to be in line with the results of the previous CfD in October. If a change is desired from that format, all the previously moved categories should also be tagged for renaming. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 10:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    That discussion involved moving the splitter from the middle to the end. This discussion is about changing "Actresses from Foo" to "Fooite actresses" following the tree Category:People by occupation and nationality and city. – Aidan721 ( talk) 15:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Okay, I just saw the December CfD. The problem here is that we now have conflicting precedents: The October one was for People from Foo by place, while the December one was for Fooian people by place. I've struck my oppose here, but a follow-up nom is needed to reconcile the whole tree one way or the other. (And for that matter, I still think the People from Foo format is preferable as the one that properly reflects the member categories. Being considered to be "from" a place does not imply one must have that place's nationality.) -- Paul_012 ( talk) 16:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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State or territory

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American/British rock/hip hop genres categories

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale:
Such division by country of origin is of no practical use, and it only creates difficulties with categorisation, which will never be correct in this environment.
Firstly, most of the genres are duplicated in two categories, because many genres have both US and UK country of origin in their infoboxes at the same time. The practical sense of this division is lost in 60% of cases for rock categories, and in some cases for hip-hop. I personally don't see any practical convenience in constantly switching between these two categories in an attempt to figure out which genres are truly exclusively British.
Secondly, genres often have roots in other countries besides the US and UK, but there are no categories for this and will not be, but they will be placed in these two categories rather than in the general category (e.g. Reggae rock). And it's unclear whether or not such genres should be placed in those categories and such situations.
Thirdly, in a situation when there are major genres with their own sub-genres and globalisation is a thing, such a hierarchy cannot be correctly arranged by country of origin. You put a major genre in one category, and it has its own nested categories for subgenres that were created all over the world. For example, Category:Heavy metal genres is now located only in "American rock music genres" and "British rock music genres", while it has a huge number of sub-genres created in individual European countries. And it turns out that the categorisation tells you that Celtic metal is an American and British genre.
So I suggest remove the categories and move their content to Category:Hip hop genres and Category:Rock music genres respectively. Solidest ( talk) 07:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
P.S. For American hip hop I created Category:American hip hop scenes a few years ago, which is both much more specific and would avoid all the problems described above. Solidest ( talk) 08:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:17th-century Franco-Flemish composers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:16th-century Franco-Flemish composers. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, the Franco-Flemish School flourished from about 1430 to 1620 so very little in the 17th century, and all articles of this category belong in the 16th century too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Death in Italy by place

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Death in Italy. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. It's unhelpful for navigation to have two cities tucked away from the parent category. If kept, it should be renamed to "by location" or "by city" Mason ( talk) 05:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:People executed by explosive device

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Deaths by explosive device. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Extremely small category. Upmerge for now. Mason ( talk) 05:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Read the story of Eugenio Calò. How did the Nazis even come up with such sick shit? Nonetheless, the upmerge makes sense. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Historical research institutes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History institutes. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These appear to refer to the same type of research institutes. Logan Talk Contributions 00:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom, or if there is any difference between the two categories then it should be clarified much better. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support merge They are almost same. killer bee  15:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:FOO women executed for witchcraft

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Category:Fictional werewolf hunters

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional monster hunters. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category solely hunts werewolves, suffice it to say it's so tiny as to be an unnecessary WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 21:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. There's no reason to distinguish by type of monster hunted given the size of the category. If the population grows, then it can be recreated. Mason ( talk) 22:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. The world (and this category) needs more werewolf hunters. Keeping us safe from lyncanthropes! Cbl62 ( talk) 20:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional zombie hunters

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Category:Fictional alien hunters

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Category:Fictional occult and psychic detectives

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional paranormal investigators. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There seems to be a pretty large WP:OVERLAPCAT here. Two separate categories on the same thing isn't necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 21:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional characters who break the fourth wall

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Category:Ion Dragoumis

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's only a page and a template in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 19:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Greek journalists by century

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason ( talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This only has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Giovanni 0331:. I'm going to close this nomination, now that you've made two other categories. However, please populate them so that they have more than a handful of people in them. Mason ( talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply


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Category:1901–02 NCAA football bowl games

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:1901 college football season. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in this category. Let'srun ( talk) 00:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. It is an accepted consensus that all years with a bowl game should have an individual category for the bowl games. I do not understand why this year should be the only exception out of 100+. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
The NCAA wasn't established until 1906 so the name itself is anachronistic and needs to be changed.-- User:Namiba 17:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It may be an idea for the future to create decade categories and merge all years to decades until 1939. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I like that idea. Rename Category:College football bowls prior to 1939 and merge the others into it.-- User:Namiba 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Though, what's special about 1939? Why is that the best cutoff? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 16:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That's a fair question. Perhaps we would better off by decade? Category:College football bowls in the 1910s and so on?-- User:Namiba 18:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Unassessed vital articles by level

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should be assessed so it is useful to have Category:Unassessed vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them into levels and topics. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, as above, the subcategories are neither listed here nor tagged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have described them exactly above. I will take any required actions if the the result is delete. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 15:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Level-unknown vital articles by quality

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have an assigned level so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural oppose, some subcategories are not empty, so if the nominated categories aren't kept, they should be merged somewhere rather than deleted. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I intend to change the template so that these categories are not populated anymore. They will still be in Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 18:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • My procedural oppose is meanwhile moot. The categories can be deleted if only because they are permanently empty now. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Photographic history books

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Books of photographs. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, having only 2 articles in the category is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Yep. Agree with nom. 21:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 ( talkcontribs)

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Category:Vital articles in an unknown topic by quality

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have a topic so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia vital articles in an unknown topic to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ MSGJ: do you intend to nominate the subcategories too? If so, you need to list them here and tag the category pages. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I wrote "and all subcategories" above. I don't really have time to tag every single page ... — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ MSGJ: then someone else has to do it, or the discussion will end in a procedural close without action. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
      Well that would be a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy, wouldn't it? If this discussion results in consensust to delete, then I will carry out all needed further actions. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 20:12, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional characters with physical and congenital disorders

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The result of the discussion was: Disperse between Category:Fictional characters with disabilities and Category:Fictional characters by physical feature. It's difficult to find any consensus in this fragmented discussion, but this (expressed as "merge") seems to have the most support and there is clearly a consensus the current situation is unideal. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category. There isn't a need to divide disabilities by physical and mental. Mason ( talk) 16:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Rename to Category:Fictional characters with physical disorders instead, to provide a clear and distinct counterpart to Category:Fictional characters with mental disorders. AHI-3000 ( talk) 08:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:School buildings in Oregon

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer with one sub-category. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There is a whole tree under Category:School buildings that would need to be addressed. Buildings are different than institutions.-- User:Namiba 23:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - So the nominator oringally empties the category, tries to speedy delete it, then now wants to merge it after creating the "University and college buildings in Oregon" category? Which that would be a subcategory of this category. And as the university one demonstrates, not all buildings should be in schools, otherwise the uni/college building category the nominator just created would also be redundant. Aboutmovies ( talk) 01:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Universities and colleges are not schools. They are both educational institutions and would both belong in the educational buildings category. – Aidan721 ( talk) 18:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Universities and colleges are not schools. Spent three years in law school ... they told me it was a school! Should I sue them for fraud? Cbl62 ( talk) 21:08, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge Per nom. In practice these are the same things since university buildings are not under schools. (I share Cbl62's confusion as to what that is the case but that broader discussion is for another time.) The NRHP listings generally focus on the building architecture rather than the education that went on there. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 17:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Vegetation of New Zealand

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 16:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species. Hesperian 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge. No difference. Gderrin ( talk) 20:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Keep Agree with @ Hesperian:. Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 05:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Vegetation of Australia

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. If kept it needs to be renamed to make it clearer that these are distinct. The category page includes the following description. "This category is for vegetation communities and types that occur in Australia, such as mallee and mulga. For individual plant taxa, see Category:Flora of Australia" Mason ( talk) 15:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:03, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species, as the category page clearly states. It doesn't need renaming either -- the term "vegetation" serves as the name of our article vegetation, and no-one has felt that it needs to be clarified or disambiguated. Hesperian 23:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    • That is just a restatement of the proposal: redefining the flora category to encompass both species articles and vegetation articles, is exactly what is proposed. But I don't see a sensible rationale for doing so. The claim that they are overlapping is simply false. They are related but distinct. Hesperian 12:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
      • Flora is all plant life. Vegetation belongs to plant life too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
        • Golly, it sounds like vegetation is a sub-category of flora. Hesperian 10:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Strong Keep The wording of the nomination itself is a give away by the way it has been created - however, in one point they are separate and not overlapping. There are distinct purposes for the separation. JarrahTree 02:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation and as can be seen from the category include mallee lands, vegetation communities and so on which are Australian. The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 05:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Montenegrin Malacologists

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Closing discussion in order to instead propose merge to Category:Malacologists along with other related single-page categories. (non-admin closure) Monster Iestyn ( talk) 01:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: "malacologists" should not start with a capital letter in this category name. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 03:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Speedy rename per C2A. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 04:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
@ LaundryPizza03 Ah whoops, I forgot about that speedy rename criteria, thanks. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 16:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15#Category:Establishments in Gran Colombia by century. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic London 17:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:31, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support extra layers not needed for a former jurisdiction that only existed in one century. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 17:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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20th century in the Trucial States

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trucial States only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15#Category:Establishments in Gran Colombia by century. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic London 16:30, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software programmed in Java (with no prejudice against speedy renomination); dual merge the others as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Unhelpful for navigation. Deltaspace42 ( talkcontribs) 10:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Support GTK and Qt/Neutral on Java GTK and Qt are clearly NARROWCAT. The Java one is well populated but I defer to others whether that intersection is defining. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge GTK and Qt, very poorly populated categories, that is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate these categories when more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun ( talk) 12:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football Mason ( talk) 15:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Keep? - see below argument. We always have categories for different college teams - this seems to have been different than Loyola? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:30, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Delete for now. Neutral on the seasons subcat nomination but this layer doesn't aid navigation regardless. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Loyola Ramblers football seasons. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete without administering novocaine. Per the article on the Chicago Dental Infirmary, it only operated as such from March 12, 1883, until June 30, 1884. It was thereafter rechartered and became the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery". So this category is premised on a misnomer, and it appears there was never any such thing as "Chicago Dental Infirmary football". The sources listed at 1897 Chicago Dental Infirmary football team confirm that the school was then known as the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery" (e.g., here and here), and not the "Chicago Dental Infirmary". Pull the lone tooth from this category and it becomes an empty and useless dental alveolus. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football seasons

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in this category Let'srun ( talk) 12:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football seasons Mason ( talk) 15:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Keep? - generally we keep all categories for different college football seasons, even when there is just one article. Chicago Dental Infirmary seems to have been a different team than Loyola? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete, there is only a redirect and a subcategory. (I am not sure about merging to Loyola Ramblers football seasons.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. As far as I can tell. This team was not a precursor to the Loyola Ramblers team, but rather the only association is that Chicago Dental Infirmary was merged into the dental school at Loyola Chicago in 1926. At the time they were separate institutions with no relation. – Aidan721 ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, and once again sans novocaine. See my rationale on the master category. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Empty babel categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete all (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Propose deleting:
And ~100 other categories
Nomiantor's rationale: These are not the sort of categories that should be kept despite being empty. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per nom. Not sure why these categories exist. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all as empty per WP:CSD#C1. The usage of Template:possibly empty category is inappropriate for these categories and I'm not sure why that would have been added. That template is reserved for cleanup categories that often get emptied and then repopulated, these categories don't fit into that mold. VegaDark ( talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree with you in theory that these should be speedyable, but I generally prefer to get explicit consensus before undertaking mass actions, so here we are. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment do the language user boxes autocategorize into "CAT:User ISO639" base category if the "-X" skill level subcategory is missing? -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 22:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    It depends. If they are done by #babel: then it will cause Babel AutoCreate to recreate the category; If they are done by a template then it will most likely populate the category despite being red, and someone on WantedCategories patrol will recreate it. But most of these have been empty for years or longer, so that's unlikely. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Roman Catholic cathedrals in Curaçao

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People by occupation and city or town

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_1#People_by_populated_place_in_the_United_States: 1) using denonym per WP:C2C; 2) using "populated place" instead of "city or town" per recent discussions; 3) having the splitter at the end of the category name, per convention.
copy of speedy discussion regarding the first four
  • They can be combined for full CfD with the one further down below for full discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
copy of speedy discussion regarding the fifth
  • That is a good point. The previous rename was a step in the right direction, but not spot on yet, as someone also commented in that discussion. Better move this to full CfD then. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Aidan721, Smasongarrison, and Paul 012: pinging contributors to speedy discussions. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
sibling categories
  • Oppose as proposed. As I mentioned at CFDS, it should be Category:Actresses from France by populated place to be in line with the results of the previous CfD in October. If a change is desired from that format, all the previously moved categories should also be tagged for renaming. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 10:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    That discussion involved moving the splitter from the middle to the end. This discussion is about changing "Actresses from Foo" to "Fooite actresses" following the tree Category:People by occupation and nationality and city. – Aidan721 ( talk) 15:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    Okay, I just saw the December CfD. The problem here is that we now have conflicting precedents: The October one was for People from Foo by place, while the December one was for Fooian people by place. I've struck my oppose here, but a follow-up nom is needed to reconcile the whole tree one way or the other. (And for that matter, I still think the People from Foo format is preferable as the one that properly reflects the member categories. Being considered to be "from" a place does not imply one must have that place's nationality.) -- Paul_012 ( talk) 16:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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State or territory

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American/British rock/hip hop genres categories

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale:
Such division by country of origin is of no practical use, and it only creates difficulties with categorisation, which will never be correct in this environment.
Firstly, most of the genres are duplicated in two categories, because many genres have both US and UK country of origin in their infoboxes at the same time. The practical sense of this division is lost in 60% of cases for rock categories, and in some cases for hip-hop. I personally don't see any practical convenience in constantly switching between these two categories in an attempt to figure out which genres are truly exclusively British.
Secondly, genres often have roots in other countries besides the US and UK, but there are no categories for this and will not be, but they will be placed in these two categories rather than in the general category (e.g. Reggae rock). And it's unclear whether or not such genres should be placed in those categories and such situations.
Thirdly, in a situation when there are major genres with their own sub-genres and globalisation is a thing, such a hierarchy cannot be correctly arranged by country of origin. You put a major genre in one category, and it has its own nested categories for subgenres that were created all over the world. For example, Category:Heavy metal genres is now located only in "American rock music genres" and "British rock music genres", while it has a huge number of sub-genres created in individual European countries. And it turns out that the categorisation tells you that Celtic metal is an American and British genre.
So I suggest remove the categories and move their content to Category:Hip hop genres and Category:Rock music genres respectively. Solidest ( talk) 07:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
P.S. For American hip hop I created Category:American hip hop scenes a few years ago, which is both much more specific and would avoid all the problems described above. Solidest ( talk) 08:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:17th-century Franco-Flemish composers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:16th-century Franco-Flemish composers. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, the Franco-Flemish School flourished from about 1430 to 1620 so very little in the 17th century, and all articles of this category belong in the 16th century too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Death in Italy by place

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Death in Italy. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. It's unhelpful for navigation to have two cities tucked away from the parent category. If kept, it should be renamed to "by location" or "by city" Mason ( talk) 05:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:People executed by explosive device

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Deaths by explosive device. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Extremely small category. Upmerge for now. Mason ( talk) 05:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Read the story of Eugenio Calò. How did the Nazis even come up with such sick shit? Nonetheless, the upmerge makes sense. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Historical research institutes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History institutes. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These appear to refer to the same type of research institutes. Logan Talk Contributions 00:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom, or if there is any difference between the two categories then it should be clarified much better. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support merge They are almost same. killer bee  15:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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